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	<title>Comments on: Frugality in Practice: Shaking That New Car Itch</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mela</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-136132</link>
		<dc:creator>Mela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you ever do considder a Toyota Echo, I do recommend them. Mine gets 55mpg and is structurally sound. Yes, the insides are plastic, but it's an excellent car! And it runs forever! 175K miles and still working perfect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ever do considder a Toyota Echo, I do recommend them. Mine gets 55mpg and is structurally sound. Yes, the insides are plastic, but it&#8217;s an excellent car! And it runs forever! 175K miles and still working perfect!</p>
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		<title>By: My monthly expenses are high; how can I cut down my monthly expenses? - myinvestingblog.com</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-103734</link>
		<dc:creator>My monthly expenses are high; how can I cut down my monthly expenses? - myinvestingblog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new car though - It&#8217;s certainly helpful to see everything out on paper to further the need to back away.  That&#8217;s maybe the allure piece grabbing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new car though - It&#8217;s certainly helpful to see everything out on paper to further the need to back away.  That&#8217;s maybe the allure piece grabbing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-102410</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a "previously cared for" 2003 BMW 330i from a used car dealership.  Had to replace the brakepads, rotors, and tires, but that's to be expected.  Buying a Certified Pre-Owned bimmer from a proper BMW dealership will get you an extended warranty and free oil changes.  Buying a new bimmer will get you 4-years of service 'free' (oil changes, etc etc).  

The car is absolutely amazing.  32-33mpg highway (at 90mph).  Silky smooth ~225bhp and ~215lb/ft of torque, 0-60 in around 6.5 seconds.  Roomy and comfy on the inside, but rear legroom is a bit of a squeeze sometimes.  Yes you'll get 'only' 30mpg/highway if you keep the power on, but if you keep the car at 3500rpm, where the torque peaks, you'll get crazyawesome mileage.  I commute ~35 miles each way, Monday through Friday, so I put quite a few miles on it.  Keep the oil changes regular and the car will last well over 150,000 miles.  My rear tires (245/40ZR17s, ~$320 total) had to be replaced after a year, front tires are still good.

Previously I had a 1988 BMW 325iX with 158,000 miles on it.  Was still running strong when someone decided to pull a U-turn in front of me, totalling the car.  

ps the new 335i twin-turbo inline-6 gets 28mpg highway by EPA estimates.  300bhp and 300lb/ft of torque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a &#8220;previously cared for&#8221; 2003 BMW 330i from a used car dealership.  Had to replace the brakepads, rotors, and tires, but that&#8217;s to be expected.  Buying a Certified Pre-Owned bimmer from a proper BMW dealership will get you an extended warranty and free oil changes.  Buying a new bimmer will get you 4-years of service &#8216;free&#8217; (oil changes, etc etc).  </p>
<p>The car is absolutely amazing.  32-33mpg highway (at 90mph).  Silky smooth ~225bhp and ~215lb/ft of torque, 0-60 in around 6.5 seconds.  Roomy and comfy on the inside, but rear legroom is a bit of a squeeze sometimes.  Yes you&#8217;ll get &#8216;only&#8217; 30mpg/highway if you keep the power on, but if you keep the car at 3500rpm, where the torque peaks, you&#8217;ll get crazyawesome mileage.  I commute ~35 miles each way, Monday through Friday, so I put quite a few miles on it.  Keep the oil changes regular and the car will last well over 150,000 miles.  My rear tires (245/40ZR17s, ~$320 total) had to be replaced after a year, front tires are still good.</p>
<p>Previously I had a 1988 BMW 325iX with 158,000 miles on it.  Was still running strong when someone decided to pull a U-turn in front of me, totalling the car.  </p>
<p>ps the new 335i twin-turbo inline-6 gets 28mpg highway by EPA estimates.  300bhp and 300lb/ft of torque.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugality is NOT a Dirty Word ? Get Rich Slowly</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-102326</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugality is NOT a Dirty Word ? Get Rich Slowly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Shaking that new car itch [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Am I getting more frugal by the day? - myinvestingblog.com</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-102124</link>
		<dc:creator>Am I getting more frugal by the day? - myinvestingblog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] am currently still able to push back the urge courtesy of Shopping for a Car, My Money Management, Get Rich Slowly, Louisville, and Frugal Journey.  I question buying brand name cereal, new socks, take shorter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] am currently still able to push back the urge courtesy of Shopping for a Car, My Money Management, Get Rich Slowly, Louisville, and Frugal Journey.  I question buying brand name cereal, new socks, take shorter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-92278</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh just to add, if you are looking for a fun car to drive, check out the new mazda3. It's a top pick from Edmunds.com readers and editors too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh just to add, if you are looking for a fun car to drive, check out the new mazda3. It&#8217;s a top pick from Edmunds.com readers and editors too.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-92277</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't buy the bimmer. I know 2 people who own bimmers and they are expensive to own. 

My bro-in-law got a bimmer 325 I believe. But he says now he regrets buying it. Before he had an Accord, and he says now the bimmer costs so much just for maintenance. He has a cousin who works on bimmers and even with a discount, it costs a lot. He's afraid of how much the major service will cost. So he drives an Acura TL instead.

My other friend has a new 3 series too. He was driving it a lot at first. Recently he told me he takes the caltrain instead to work. He's only 15 to 20 minutes away from work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t buy the bimmer. I know 2 people who own bimmers and they are expensive to own. </p>
<p>My bro-in-law got a bimmer 325 I believe. But he says now he regrets buying it. Before he had an Accord, and he says now the bimmer costs so much just for maintenance. He has a cousin who works on bimmers and even with a discount, it costs a lot. He&#8217;s afraid of how much the major service will cost. So he drives an Acura TL instead.</p>
<p>My other friend has a new 3 series too. He was driving it a lot at first. Recently he told me he takes the caltrain instead to work. He&#8217;s only 15 to 20 minutes away from work.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-91793</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Edmunds True Cost to Own -
Cost over 5 yrs:
2004 
BMW 325i        $46,535 / 62 cents per mile
Lexus ES330     $42,672 / 57 cents per mile
Honda Accord EX $33,606 / 45 cents per mile

I know most readers here might keep the car longer, but it's interesting to run the numbers.

If you bought a 3 yr old Honda EX every five years vs. the BMW, and increased your retirement contribution by $12,929 each five year period ($215.48 per month) at a conservative 8% you'd have an additonal  

$321,142.65  in 30 years.  

And you'd save the planet about 91,304 lbs on CO2.  And it's built somewhat locally - Ohio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Edmunds True Cost to Own -<br />
Cost over 5 yrs:<br />
2004<br />
BMW 325i        $46,535 / 62 cents per mile<br />
Lexus ES330     $42,672 / 57 cents per mile<br />
Honda Accord EX $33,606 / 45 cents per mile</p>
<p>I know most readers here might keep the car longer, but it&#8217;s interesting to run the numbers.</p>
<p>If you bought a 3 yr old Honda EX every five years vs. the BMW, and increased your retirement contribution by $12,929 each five year period ($215.48 per month) at a conservative 8% you&#8217;d have an additonal  </p>
<p>$321,142.65  in 30 years.  </p>
<p>And you&#8217;d save the planet about 91,304 lbs on CO2.  And it&#8217;s built somewhat locally - Ohio.</p>
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		<title>By: probloggermom</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-91012</link>
		<dc:creator>probloggermom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm at this place now. I have a 10 yr old gas guzzling Suburban. We bought it with every intention of driving it into the ground. But with 3 young kids and 2 large dogs, this vehicle is...well....gross. Plus with gas prices as they are, it's time for it to go! Trying to save as much as possible for the next one, which is at least a year out, but it's tough! I want one NOW! LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m at this place now. I have a 10 yr old gas guzzling Suburban. We bought it with every intention of driving it into the ground. But with 3 young kids and 2 large dogs, this vehicle is&#8230;well&#8230;.gross. Plus with gas prices as they are, it&#8217;s time for it to go! Trying to save as much as possible for the next one, which is at least a year out, but it&#8217;s tough! I want one NOW! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-80997</link>
		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a used 2003 bmw 325i, for around $16 w/ 38k mint condition and remaining warranty. Let me tell you it is the best money i have ever spent ever.. these cars are amazing smooth, quick, quiet, stick, leather, and enough power wow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a used 2003 bmw 325i, for around $16 w/ 38k mint condition and remaining warranty. Let me tell you it is the best money i have ever spent ever.. these cars are amazing smooth, quick, quiet, stick, leather, and enough power wow</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-80554</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I bought a BMW 325i in February of 2006. Best car I ever owned.&lt;/i&gt;

You're killing me, James, you're killing me. &lt;i&gt;(Must ignore reader's comments...)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I bought a BMW 325i in February of 2006. Best car I ever owned.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re killing me, James, you&#8217;re killing me. <i>(Must ignore reader&#8217;s comments&#8230;)</i></p>
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		<title>By: James Tharpe</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-80549</link>
		<dc:creator>James Tharpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a BMW 325i in February of 2006. Best car I ever owned. Even after driving it for more than a year, I often think to myself "I love this car."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a BMW 325i in February of 2006. Best car I ever owned. Even after driving it for more than a year, I often think to myself &#8220;I love this car.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Get Rich Slowly &#187; Reader Story: Fritz Buys a New Car</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-10811</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Rich Slowly &#187; Reader Story: Fritz Buys a New Car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I had the new car itch bad last spring. I was unhappy with my Ford Focus, and wanted something sleek and exciting. I knew it was a bad financial decision for me, though, and eventually was able to kill the urge. I wrote about the experience in Frugality in practice: Shaking that new car itch. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I had the new car itch bad last spring. I was unhappy with my Ford Focus, and wanted something sleek and exciting. I knew it was a bad financial decision for me, though, and eventually was able to kill the urge. I wrote about the experience in Frugality in practice: Shaking that new car itch. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there's something to be said for getting a car that's insanely fun to drive when you're a daily commuter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there&#8217;s something to be said for getting a car that&#8217;s insanely fun to drive when you&#8217;re a daily commuter.</p>
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		<title>By: Get Rich Slowly &#187; The True Cost of Car Ownership</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Rich Slowly &#187; The True Cost of Car Ownership</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 17:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How much does it affect your cost-per-mile to choose a luxury car instead of something practical? I recently found myself fighting the new car itch. I wanted a new BMW or Audi. A commenter wrote: In The Millionaire Next Door, one of the best-performing groups in terms of net worth was what the authors called something like “used car prone”. This class of person buys a car that is 3 to 5 years old, and drives it for many years. The authors spend a lot of time discussing this class because it is statistically most likely to have a very high net worth compared to annual income. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How much does it affect your cost-per-mile to choose a luxury car instead of something practical? I recently found myself fighting the new car itch. I wanted a new BMW or Audi. A commenter wrote: In The Millionaire Next Door, one of the best-performing groups in terms of net worth was what the authors called something like “used car prone”. This class of person buys a car that is 3 to 5 years old, and drives it for many years. The authors spend a lot of time discussing this class because it is statistically most likely to have a very high net worth compared to annual income. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: knave</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>knave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 09:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just went through the same phase.  I know this post is a little old, but I hope you get to read this comment.

I strongly advise you to avoid newer German cars.  I was looking at A4s, 323is, etc, for all the obvious reasons.  Found a real nice 323i, so I thought.  Took it to my mechanic (who is awesome), and after looking it over, he asks, "Did you buy this car yet?"  I reply in the negative, and he says "Good, don't."  Then proceeds to draw up a laundry list of problems with the car, totalling $6000-$7000 in parts and labor, some of which can only be done by a BMW dealer.

He went on to say that the newer German cars are not built as well as they used to be.  It seems that their reputation has kept their values high, but they are NOT worth it.  Your classy BMW or Audi WILL be a money pit.

He said "Get something Japanese" and I immediately felt stupid for wanting a German car.  I realized I was looking for a status symbol more than a good vehicle.  I *still* wanted something classy, and I got a 2001 Maxima, immaculate w/80k miles, for $9900.  Upscale V6 sedan, decent performance, still a pretty cool status symbol, too.  And it's a Nissan, which means it'll run forever.

One last point.  In "The Millionaire Next Door," one of the best performing groups in terms of net worth was what they called something like "used car prone".  This class of person buys a car that is 3 to 5 years old, and drives it for many years.  They spend a lot of time discussing this class because it is the statistically most likely to have a very high net worth compared to annual income.

I LOVE your blog and I'm learning tons on it.  I can't believe my first post here is to give you advice, but I feel strongly about it.  Cars are one of the biggest wastes of money.  Don't get an ugly or boring car, sure, but DON'T get a money pit, and DON'T buy new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just went through the same phase.  I know this post is a little old, but I hope you get to read this comment.</p>
<p>I strongly advise you to avoid newer German cars.  I was looking at A4s, 323is, etc, for all the obvious reasons.  Found a real nice 323i, so I thought.  Took it to my mechanic (who is awesome), and after looking it over, he asks, &#8220;Did you buy this car yet?&#8221;  I reply in the negative, and he says &#8220;Good, don&#8217;t.&#8221;  Then proceeds to draw up a laundry list of problems with the car, totalling $6000-$7000 in parts and labor, some of which can only be done by a BMW dealer.</p>
<p>He went on to say that the newer German cars are not built as well as they used to be.  It seems that their reputation has kept their values high, but they are NOT worth it.  Your classy BMW or Audi WILL be a money pit.</p>
<p>He said &#8220;Get something Japanese&#8221; and I immediately felt stupid for wanting a German car.  I realized I was looking for a status symbol more than a good vehicle.  I *still* wanted something classy, and I got a 2001 Maxima, immaculate w/80k miles, for $9900.  Upscale V6 sedan, decent performance, still a pretty cool status symbol, too.  And it&#8217;s a Nissan, which means it&#8217;ll run forever.</p>
<p>One last point.  In &#8220;The Millionaire Next Door,&#8221; one of the best performing groups in terms of net worth was what they called something like &#8220;used car prone&#8221;.  This class of person buys a car that is 3 to 5 years old, and drives it for many years.  They spend a lot of time discussing this class because it is the statistically most likely to have a very high net worth compared to annual income.</p>
<p>I LOVE your blog and I&#8217;m learning tons on it.  I can&#8217;t believe my first post here is to give you advice, but I feel strongly about it.  Cars are one of the biggest wastes of money.  Don&#8217;t get an ugly or boring car, sure, but DON&#8217;T get a money pit, and DON&#8217;T buy new.</p>
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		<title>By: evanrose</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>evanrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 16:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow - I didn't notice that you had Confessions of a Car Salesman linked under "You may also be interested to read" as that doesn't show up in my feed reader.  Great minds think alike.</description>
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		<title>By: evanrose</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/05/19/frugality-in-practice-shaking-that-new-car-itch/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>evanrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to reward myself with a BMW a few years ago and thank god I didn't, though the working my way to the goal to get the reward was very rewarding!

There are some great posts about buying a car over at http://iwillteachyoutoberich.com, though I'm sure you've seen them.  Also be sure to read this very long but very good article at Edmond's, Confessions of a Car Salesman: http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html

Keep up the good work.  I'm really enjoying your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to reward myself with a BMW a few years ago and thank god I didn&#8217;t, though the working my way to the goal to get the reward was very rewarding!</p>
<p>There are some great posts about buying a car over at <a href="http://iwillteachyoutoberich.com" rel="nofollow">http://iwillteachyoutoberich.com</a>, though I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen them.  Also be sure to read this very long but very good article at Edmond&#8217;s, Confessions of a Car Salesman: <a href="http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html</a></p>
<p>Keep up the good work.  I&#8217;m really enjoying your site.</p>
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