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	<title>Comments on: More Things Your Supermarket Won&#8217;t Tell You</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Honest Abe</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-87011</link>
		<dc:creator>Honest Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 20:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try, Lazlo.  Which "one man" and where?  You are full of it.  Anyone can get a brand loyalty card from ANY store with false information, no ID required.  This would never be valid in court.

The information collected is used for demographic information (what do you buy, what will you buy more of).

If you are dumb enough to give them your correct info, they send you coupons based on previous purchases.

Stupid conspiracy theories presented as fact have no place here, only confuse the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, Lazlo.  Which &#8220;one man&#8221; and where?  You are full of it.  Anyone can get a brand loyalty card from ANY store with false information, no ID required.  This would never be valid in court.</p>
<p>The information collected is used for demographic information (what do you buy, what will you buy more of).</p>
<p>If you are dumb enough to give them your correct info, they send you coupons based on previous purchases.</p>
<p>Stupid conspiracy theories presented as fact have no place here, only confuse the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazlo</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supermarkets will turn over all the information attached to your loyalty card to the authorities upon request.

One man was convicted of a crime because police used the loyalty card database to show that he was at a certain store at a certain time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supermarkets will turn over all the information attached to your loyalty card to the authorities upon request.</p>
<p>One man was convicted of a crime because police used the loyalty card database to show that he was at a certain store at a certain time.</p>
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		<title>By: Get Rich Slowly &#187; Is the Best Price Always the Best Choice?</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Rich Slowly &#187; Is the Best Price Always the Best Choice?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cribcage took exception to a comment I posted yesterday. In the further discussion of things your supermarket won&#8217;t tell you, I quoted a Digg-user who works at a grocery store: Since I have started changing prices I have noticed a lot of tricks that Safeway uses. [&#8230;] Everything at a grocery store is close to double the price of Walmart or Target. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cribcage took exception to a comment I posted yesterday. In the further discussion of things your supermarket won&#8217;t tell you, I quoted a Digg-user who works at a grocery store: Since I have started changing prices I have noticed a lot of tricks that Safeway uses. [&#8230;] Everything at a grocery store is close to double the price of Walmart or Target. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rich</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd take a lot of those Digg comments with a grain of salt. President's Choice is Loblaws/Superstore's *high-end* brand; their discount house brand is No-Name. President's Choice products tend to be a bit more expensive than the big brands but tend to  be a bit better quality as well. 

I don't understand his point about how the store preferring to sell house brand products means the house brand must be low-quality. It seems to me that they'd prefer to sell house brand because they're able to pocket all of the profits instead of sharing some with Heinz, and because getting customers hooked on a high-end house brand means those customers won't be able to go to a competitor to buy the products they like.

(Also, any story that begins "this is a true story" probably isn't.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take a lot of those Digg comments with a grain of salt. President&#8217;s Choice is Loblaws/Superstore&#8217;s *high-end* brand; their discount house brand is No-Name. President&#8217;s Choice products tend to be a bit more expensive than the big brands but tend to  be a bit better quality as well. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand his point about how the store preferring to sell house brand products means the house brand must be low-quality. It seems to me that they&#8217;d prefer to sell house brand because they&#8217;re able to pocket all of the profits instead of sharing some with Heinz, and because getting customers hooked on a high-end house brand means those customers won&#8217;t be able to go to a competitor to buy the products they like.</p>
<p>(Also, any story that begins &#8220;this is a true story&#8221; probably isn&#8217;t.)</p>
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		<title>By: Spoonman</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator>Spoonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second cribcage's feeling about Walmart.  I also add in that the price difference you find at Walmart is lost in the amount of time you spend in line.  Even when I do a monthly supermarket trip, I can be in and out in an hour.  If I attempt the same thing at Walmart, it takes more than an hour just to get through the line since they never have enough cashiers, prices are always wrong and everyone in line in front of you has to have prices rechecked, and so on and so on.  Saving money is great, but only if it doesn't cost me a more valuable commodity: my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second cribcage&#8217;s feeling about Walmart.  I also add in that the price difference you find at Walmart is lost in the amount of time you spend in line.  Even when I do a monthly supermarket trip, I can be in and out in an hour.  If I attempt the same thing at Walmart, it takes more than an hour just to get through the line since they never have enough cashiers, prices are always wrong and everyone in line in front of you has to have prices rechecked, and so on and so on.  Saving money is great, but only if it doesn&#8217;t cost me a more valuable commodity: my time.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 04:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People that claim that grocery stores only use their "loyalty" cards to send out coupons truly have no clue what they're talking about.  Catalina Marketing in St Pete FL boasts this on their web site:

"In the retail industry, Catalina Marketing retrieves about 250 million transactions per week, across more than 21,000 grocery stores. On behalf of our grocery retail clients, we manage one of the six largest databases in the world, containing the purchase histories of over 100 million household IDs."

Still think grocery stores aren't making money by tracking you with those cards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People that claim that grocery stores only use their &#8220;loyalty&#8221; cards to send out coupons truly have no clue what they&#8217;re talking about.  Catalina Marketing in St Pete FL boasts this on their web site:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the retail industry, Catalina Marketing retrieves about 250 million transactions per week, across more than 21,000 grocery stores. On behalf of our grocery retail clients, we manage one of the six largest databases in the world, containing the purchase histories of over 100 million household IDs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still think grocery stores aren&#8217;t making money by tracking you with those cards?</p>
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		<title>By: pfadfaog</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-1034</link>
		<dc:creator>pfadfaog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've heard that grocery stores only make a 3% markup, but I can't see how that could possibly cover their costs.  I also can't see how that's true from the standpoint of my involvement with cooperatives that have markups of 20-35% and are still consistently less expensive than the grocery store.  Something's not right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard that grocery stores only make a 3% markup, but I can&#8217;t see how that could possibly cover their costs.  I also can&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s true from the standpoint of my involvement with cooperatives that have markups of 20-35% and are still consistently less expensive than the grocery store.  Something&#8217;s not right.</p>
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		<title>By: cribcage</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/29/more-things-your-supermarket-wont-tell-you/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>cribcage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Everything at a grocery store is close to double the price of Walmart or Target.&lt;/i&gt;

I love this blog and I'm all about financial acuity, but this is the sort of dangerous conclusion reached by the narrow-minded thinking that often goes hand-in-hand with penny pinching.

My mother used to buy oversized containers of laundry detergent. I'd explain that I understood smaller containers cost more per ounce but that I didn't feel it was money wasted. "For my extra 14 cents, I'm buying the ability to lift these smaller bottles of detergent without pulling a muscle." We had the same discussion about a box of 200 trash bags: "For my extra 45 cents, I'm buying a smaller box that fits inside my kitchen drawer. The bigger box is cheaper, but I don't have anywhere to put it."

Same principle here. Yes, my local grocery store costs more than Wal-Mart, but that isn't money wasted. I'm investing in my local economy — but I'm also buying accountability. My local supermarket has fewer customers than multinational Wal-Mart, so each individual customer's voice carries more weight. They care what I say.

When my local store decided to stop carrying Hodgson Mill corn meal, for example, I complained and they reversed their decision. Everyone in my neighborhood likes certain candies at Halloween, and I don't have to worry about my supermarket abandoning those brands because 20,000 customers in Kansas and Missouri stopped buying them.

Learn to distinguish between being aware of how much you spend versus always searching for the lowest price. One is smart. The other is narrow-minded and destructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Everything at a grocery store is close to double the price of Walmart or Target.</i></p>
<p>I love this blog and I&#8217;m all about financial acuity, but this is the sort of dangerous conclusion reached by the narrow-minded thinking that often goes hand-in-hand with penny pinching.</p>
<p>My mother used to buy oversized containers of laundry detergent. I&#8217;d explain that I understood smaller containers cost more per ounce but that I didn&#8217;t feel it was money wasted. &#8220;For my extra 14 cents, I&#8217;m buying the ability to lift these smaller bottles of detergent without pulling a muscle.&#8221; We had the same discussion about a box of 200 trash bags: &#8220;For my extra 45 cents, I&#8217;m buying a smaller box that fits inside my kitchen drawer. The bigger box is cheaper, but I don&#8217;t have anywhere to put it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Same principle here. Yes, my local grocery store costs more than Wal-Mart, but that isn&#8217;t money wasted. I&#8217;m investing in my local economy — but I&#8217;m also buying accountability. My local supermarket has fewer customers than multinational Wal-Mart, so each individual customer&#8217;s voice carries more weight. They care what I say.</p>
<p>When my local store decided to stop carrying Hodgson Mill corn meal, for example, I complained and they reversed their decision. Everyone in my neighborhood likes certain candies at Halloween, and I don&#8217;t have to worry about my supermarket abandoning those brands because 20,000 customers in Kansas and Missouri stopped buying them.</p>
<p>Learn to distinguish between being aware of how much you spend versus always searching for the lowest price. One is smart. The other is narrow-minded and destructive.</p>
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