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		<title>By: Getting Rid Of Your Debt Without Worrying About The Latte Factor &#187; Money, Matter, and More Musings</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/07/26/want-to-save-give-up-the-big-things/#comment-66125</link>
		<dc:creator>Getting Rid Of Your Debt Without Worrying About The Latte Factor &#187; Money, Matter, and More Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] -Want to Save? Give up the Big Things! : by JDRoth @ Get Rich Slowly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] -Want to Save? Give up the Big Things! : by JDRoth @ Get Rich Slowly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Get Rich Slowly &#187; How to Earn a 177% Rate of Return on BOOZE</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/07/26/want-to-save-give-up-the-big-things/#comment-4414</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Rich Slowly &#187; How to Earn a 177% Rate of Return on BOOZE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Remember how cranky I was about Amelia Tyagi&#8217;s advice to not worry about the little things, to only pay attention to the Big Picture? Tobias has some great examples of why the little things matter, including this classic bit about how to make a phenomenal return on your investment by purchasing wine in bulk.  Earning 177% on Bordeaux by Andrew Tobias [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Remember how cranky I was about Amelia Tyagi&#8217;s advice to not worry about the little things, to only pay attention to the Big Picture? Tobias has some great examples of why the little things matter, including this classic bit about how to make a phenomenal return on your investment by purchasing wine in bulk.  Earning 177% on Bordeaux by Andrew Tobias [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VinTek</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/07/26/want-to-save-give-up-the-big-things/#comment-4271</link>
		<dc:creator>VinTek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's a matter of attitude toward life in general, not whether the items purchased are "big" or "small".  I pretty much view most purchases in the same way:  I want to extract as much value as I can when I make a purchase.  And guess what?  I don't worry about the small items *or* the big items!

For me, it's all about value.  It applies to little things (I can't stomach the thought of paying $3 for a cup of coffee) and big things (we elected to purchase a Honda Accord instead of an Acura TL and a Honda Civic instead of an Acura TSX).  Because I look for value, I can indulge in some things that go against what all the financial advisors say, such as purchasing my vehicles new instead of used.  The value part comes in when I go for the lowest possible price and drive the vehicles for 12-14 years.

Tyagi's piece on Marketplace (I happened to have heard that broadcast) pretty much tells me that she's willing to tell people what they want to hear even if it gets in the way of the basic message.  I suppose that's the way it has to be if you only have 5 minutes to say what you have to say.  You morph your basic message (save wherever you can) into a "focus on this" (save on the big items) message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a matter of attitude toward life in general, not whether the items purchased are &#8220;big&#8221; or &#8220;small&#8221;.  I pretty much view most purchases in the same way:  I want to extract as much value as I can when I make a purchase.  And guess what?  I don&#8217;t worry about the small items *or* the big items!</p>
<p>For me, it&#8217;s all about value.  It applies to little things (I can&#8217;t stomach the thought of paying $3 for a cup of coffee) and big things (we elected to purchase a Honda Accord instead of an Acura TL and a Honda Civic instead of an Acura TSX).  Because I look for value, I can indulge in some things that go against what all the financial advisors say, such as purchasing my vehicles new instead of used.  The value part comes in when I go for the lowest possible price and drive the vehicles for 12-14 years.</p>
<p>Tyagi&#8217;s piece on Marketplace (I happened to have heard that broadcast) pretty much tells me that she&#8217;s willing to tell people what they want to hear even if it gets in the way of the basic message.  I suppose that&#8217;s the way it has to be if you only have 5 minutes to say what you have to say.  You morph your basic message (save wherever you can) into a &#8220;focus on this&#8221; (save on the big items) message.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the condescending tone. It reminds me of whenever my mother tries to talk to me about money. 

I buy coffee and a muffin at a local bakery every morning before work, and my mother thinks it's the most horrific of financial sins. But when I bought a house last winter, I looked for one priced in a low range that would end up being the same or less than my rent payment. My mother tried constantly to get me to buy something bigger and to spend more money. 

A smaller house gives me a lower mortgage payment, lower utility bills, disincentives for buying more furniture and other things, and lower maintenance costs. I'm saving many hundreds of dollars a month by living in a smaller house as opposed to the $60 or so I'd save from cutting out the coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the condescending tone. It reminds me of whenever my mother tries to talk to me about money. </p>
<p>I buy coffee and a muffin at a local bakery every morning before work, and my mother thinks it&#8217;s the most horrific of financial sins. But when I bought a house last winter, I looked for one priced in a low range that would end up being the same or less than my rent payment. My mother tried constantly to get me to buy something bigger and to spend more money. </p>
<p>A smaller house gives me a lower mortgage payment, lower utility bills, disincentives for buying more furniture and other things, and lower maintenance costs. I&#8217;m saving many hundreds of dollars a month by living in a smaller house as opposed to the $60 or so I&#8217;d save from cutting out the coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amberlynn makes some great points. I'm glad somebody who's read the entire book left a comment, too. Also, this reminds me that I mean to link to a previous post about &lt;a href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/23/dont-confuse-frugality-with-depriving-yourself/" rel="nofollow"&gt;not confusing frugality with depriving yourself&lt;/a&gt;. It seems very relevant to this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amberlynn makes some great points. I&#8217;m glad somebody who&#8217;s read the entire book left a comment, too. Also, this reminds me that I mean to link to a previous post about <a href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/06/23/dont-confuse-frugality-with-depriving-yourself/" rel="nofollow">not confusing frugality with depriving yourself</a>. It seems very relevant to this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Amberlynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amberlynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I've said many times, I love Tyagi's book. I think she does a great job of explaining why not worry about the little things in her book. If you're scrimping in every way, you'll have nothing you can cut back on when a crisis hits. (Read Two Income Trap for more on this line of thinking.) If you have a healthy emergency fund, then I guess that's ok. Otherwise, you're not doing yourself a favor.

Other than that, I don't think she has anything against saving on the small things. I think, in fact, she's selling to people who already are worrying about the small things and still wondering how they can get by. (That's how I felt after reading Bach's book, "I already do that, but I'm still getting by paycheck to paycheck.")

My DH and I have followed her advice, but we're also both naturally very frugal. As a result, we don't feel any guilt when we wither away $40 in one night for dinner and dancing. (Doesn't happen often, but the zero guilt part is great.) We know we're financially balanced, and because we're also frugal we're currently at 50% Must Haves, almost 40% savings! (we're saving aggressively for a house downpayment, and of course, retirement), and only 10% wants - and all this on only one small income.

It really is possible! The trick IS in the big ticket items. We've managed to find a living situation that is only $250/mo rent... but most people wouldn't be willing to live like we do, with my in-laws. (We consider ourselves very lucky.)

And Rhea, in Portland we have Flexcar, it's the same deal, and I think it's awesome. My husband went through mechanic's school and we drive old VW deisel cars he bought at low auction prices and then fixed up. We pay for car parts, but on VW's they're very inexpensive, and having a mechanic in the family cuts out another huge expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said many times, I love Tyagi&#8217;s book. I think she does a great job of explaining why not worry about the little things in her book. If you&#8217;re scrimping in every way, you&#8217;ll have nothing you can cut back on when a crisis hits. (Read Two Income Trap for more on this line of thinking.) If you have a healthy emergency fund, then I guess that&#8217;s ok. Otherwise, you&#8217;re not doing yourself a favor.</p>
<p>Other than that, I don&#8217;t think she has anything against saving on the small things. I think, in fact, she&#8217;s selling to people who already are worrying about the small things and still wondering how they can get by. (That&#8217;s how I felt after reading Bach&#8217;s book, &#8220;I already do that, but I&#8217;m still getting by paycheck to paycheck.&#8221;)</p>
<p>My DH and I have followed her advice, but we&#8217;re also both naturally very frugal. As a result, we don&#8217;t feel any guilt when we wither away $40 in one night for dinner and dancing. (Doesn&#8217;t happen often, but the zero guilt part is great.) We know we&#8217;re financially balanced, and because we&#8217;re also frugal we&#8217;re currently at 50% Must Haves, almost 40% savings! (we&#8217;re saving aggressively for a house downpayment, and of course, retirement), and only 10% wants - and all this on only one small income.</p>
<p>It really is possible! The trick IS in the big ticket items. We&#8217;ve managed to find a living situation that is only $250/mo rent&#8230; but most people wouldn&#8217;t be willing to live like we do, with my in-laws. (We consider ourselves very lucky.)</p>
<p>And Rhea, in Portland we have Flexcar, it&#8217;s the same deal, and I think it&#8217;s awesome. My husband went through mechanic&#8217;s school and we drive old VW deisel cars he bought at low auction prices and then fixed up. We pay for car parts, but on VW&#8217;s they&#8217;re very inexpensive, and having a mechanic in the family cuts out another huge expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it is important to save on big and small things. As for cars, if you have a Zipcar service in your neighborhood, that is great way to get rid of your car (along with all the pricey maintenance, repairs, insurance, etc.) but still have the use of a vehicle when you need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it is important to save on big and small things. As for cars, if you have a Zipcar service in your neighborhood, that is great way to get rid of your car (along with all the pricey maintenance, repairs, insurance, etc.) but still have the use of a vehicle when you need it.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I always criticize myself for being "pound wise and penny foolish". We'll resist the $2000 smooth black fridge for the $900 textured white one, but we'll then forget to return a $5 trinket to Target that we've decided we don't want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I always criticize myself for being &#8220;pound wise and penny foolish&#8221;. We&#8217;ll resist the $2000 smooth black fridge for the $900 textured white one, but we&#8217;ll then forget to return a $5 trinket to Target that we&#8217;ve decided we don&#8217;t want.</p>
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