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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/08/10/programmable-thermostats-a-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-217170</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with jccalhoun.  How are these things all that  much better than manually setting your thermostat?  I turn ours down when I go to bed and turn it back up when I get up in the morning.  It&#039;s chilly when I first get up but only takes a few minutes for the house to warm back up.  When I&#039;m going to be gone from home for a while I set it back down and again, undertake the horribly difficult task of turning it back up when I get home.  Programmable thermostats make sense if you&#039;re a) forgetful b)insist on the house being warm when you get up or, c) too lazy to use your fingers to turn the thermstat up and down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with jccalhoun.  How are these things all that  much better than manually setting your thermostat?  I turn ours down when I go to bed and turn it back up when I get up in the morning.  It&#8217;s chilly when I first get up but only takes a few minutes for the house to warm back up.  When I&#8217;m going to be gone from home for a while I set it back down and again, undertake the horribly difficult task of turning it back up when I get home.  Programmable thermostats make sense if you&#8217;re a) forgetful b)insist on the house being warm when you get up or, c) too lazy to use your fingers to turn the thermstat up and down.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 03:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, You may want to check the compatibility of your programmable thermostat with your heating system. It sounds like you have a dual stage heat pump, and many models are not compatible with this type of system, and are compatible only with single stage heat pumps. If you do indeed have a dual stage heat pump make sure you get a programmable model that is specifically compatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, You may want to check the compatibility of your programmable thermostat with your heating system. It sounds like you have a dual stage heat pump, and many models are not compatible with this type of system, and are compatible only with single stage heat pumps. If you do indeed have a dual stage heat pump make sure you get a programmable model that is specifically compatible.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not impressed by programmable thermostat at all.  It has actually caused my power bill to increase. I had it set to go between 65 and 70 degrees while I was away and at home.  The stupid thing would bring on both the heat pump and electric backup heat at the same time about 10min before I got home in order to have the house at the desired temperature. I find this so inefficient it isn&#039;t funny, being an engineer by trade it really annoys me. 

If the temperature called for is greater than 2 degrees of what the house temp currently is a thermostat will bring in the electric backup. I think the logic should be programmed as to integrate the temperature change over a greater period of time allowing the heat pump to do the majority of work. Think about walking up steps its a lot easier to do it one step at a time instead of jumping all the way to the top at once, which is how your current programmable thermostat works. 

I have now set my thermostat to vary between two degrees  65 for away/sleep time and 67 for awake time that way the electric heat stays off. 

Just my $0.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not impressed by programmable thermostat at all.  It has actually caused my power bill to increase. I had it set to go between 65 and 70 degrees while I was away and at home.  The stupid thing would bring on both the heat pump and electric backup heat at the same time about 10min before I got home in order to have the house at the desired temperature. I find this so inefficient it isn&#8217;t funny, being an engineer by trade it really annoys me. </p>
<p>If the temperature called for is greater than 2 degrees of what the house temp currently is a thermostat will bring in the electric backup. I think the logic should be programmed as to integrate the temperature change over a greater period of time allowing the heat pump to do the majority of work. Think about walking up steps its a lot easier to do it one step at a time instead of jumping all the way to the top at once, which is how your current programmable thermostat works. </p>
<p>I have now set my thermostat to vary between two degrees  65 for away/sleep time and 67 for awake time that way the electric heat stays off. </p>
<p>Just my $0.02</p>
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		<title>By: Frugality in Practice: Keeping Warm in Winter ? Get Rich Slowly</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/08/10/programmable-thermostats-a-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-106283</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugality in Practice: Keeping Warm in Winter ? Get Rich Slowly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] part of our effort to keep costs down, we use a programmable thermostat to automate the furnace. When we&#8217;re away (or asleep), we keep the temperature at 54 degrees [...]</description>
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<p>[...] part of our effort to keep costs down, we use a programmable thermostat to automate the furnace. When we&#8217;re away (or asleep), we keep the temperature at 54 degrees [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They work to save money but more importantly the digital temp guages and smart heating/cooling is much more accurate than a manual thermostat with mercury thermometers inside.  A must have in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They work to save money but more importantly the digital temp guages and smart heating/cooling is much more accurate than a manual thermostat with mercury thermometers inside.  A must have in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Summer&#8217;s Here and Soon Comes The Dreaded Electric Bill &#171; Citizens of Rowlett - The Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/08/10/programmable-thermostats-a-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-89631</link>
		<dc:creator>Summer&#8217;s Here and Soon Comes The Dreaded Electric Bill &#171; Citizens of Rowlett - The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Turn down the heat in winter. Turn down the air conditioning in summer. Especially when you’re asleep or away from home. (See also.) [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Turn down the heat in winter. Turn down the air conditioning in summer. Especially when you’re asleep or away from home. (See also.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Get Rich Slowly &#187; Taking Care of Business</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/08/10/programmable-thermostats-a-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5759</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Rich Slowly &#187; Taking Care of Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adam Gurno for his Programmable Thermostats: A Three-Month Review [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Adam Gurno for his Programmable Thermostats: A Three-Month Review [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading up on these for a while now.  It seems that the best bet is the same as lights. If your not in the house, turn it off. It uses less energy to remove all of the heat at once, instead of maintaining a specific temp. (Mostly referenced from Michael Bluejay&#039;s site)
These are nice; shut it down when you leave, have it come on just before you come home for maximum comfort and convenience.

I don&#039;t care much for comfort so....
I&#039;ve been turning mine, physically, off when I leave for the day and back on when I get home. It&#039;s a little warm when I get home, but for the sake of this website, my electric bills have dropped by about half from last year(over $140 to around $60/mo.). I&#039;ve done some other energy savings so I cannot be sure how much I have really been saving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading up on these for a while now.  It seems that the best bet is the same as lights. If your not in the house, turn it off. It uses less energy to remove all of the heat at once, instead of maintaining a specific temp. (Mostly referenced from Michael Bluejay&#8217;s site)<br />
These are nice; shut it down when you leave, have it come on just before you come home for maximum comfort and convenience.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care much for comfort so&#8230;.<br />
I&#8217;ve been turning mine, physically, off when I leave for the day and back on when I get home. It&#8217;s a little warm when I get home, but for the sake of this website, my electric bills have dropped by about half from last year(over $140 to around $60/mo.). I&#8217;ve done some other energy savings so I cannot be sure how much I have really been saving.</p>
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		<title>By: Kara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD and others: I thought you might be interested in this: it actually monitors how much money you&#039;re spending on electricity in real time.

(If the link doesn&#039;t work, go to Houstonist.com and search for &quot;cent-a-meter&quot;)

http://www.houstonist.com/archives/2006/08/09/what_price_elec.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD and others: I thought you might be interested in this: it actually monitors how much money you&#8217;re spending on electricity in real time.</p>
<p>(If the link doesn&#8217;t work, go to Houstonist.com and search for &#8220;cent-a-meter&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: jccalhoun</title>
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		<dc:creator>jccalhoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 02:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are these better than just turning the thermostat up and down manually?  Growing up that&#039;s what my parents did and so its second nature to me now. 
It doesn&#039;t seem like there&#039;s anything inherent in a thermostat that you couldn&#039;t do yourself once you go tinto the habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are these better than just turning the thermostat up and down manually?  Growing up that&#8217;s what my parents did and so its second nature to me now.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t seem like there&#8217;s anything inherent in a thermostat that you couldn&#8217;t do yourself once you go tinto the habit.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I want to encourage people to risk breaking their leases... but I would install these in my apartments without notifying the property.  Of course, I removed it and reinstalled the original one when I moved out so they where none the wiser.

When I bought my house, it came with one.  I think they are a must-have in TX.

One piece of advice... don&#039;t go hog wild with the temperature swings.  There is a cross-over point that where the ac/heat will have to run continuously to restore the temperature and kill your energy savings.  I heard once upon a time that the rule of thumb is 5 degrees.  So if you keep your house at 78 normally... and let it rise during the day... don&#039;t go more than 83.  I have no hard data to back-up that rule, but I feel like it makes a certain degree of since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I want to encourage people to risk breaking their leases&#8230; but I would install these in my apartments without notifying the property.  Of course, I removed it and reinstalled the original one when I moved out so they where none the wiser.</p>
<p>When I bought my house, it came with one.  I think they are a must-have in TX.</p>
<p>One piece of advice&#8230; don&#8217;t go hog wild with the temperature swings.  There is a cross-over point that where the ac/heat will have to run continuously to restore the temperature and kill your energy savings.  I heard once upon a time that the rule of thumb is 5 degrees.  So if you keep your house at 78 normally&#8230; and let it rise during the day&#8230; don&#8217;t go more than 83.  I have no hard data to back-up that rule, but I feel like it makes a certain degree of since.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an older model that came with my house. It&#039;s great. I&#039;d love to tweak a few of the settings, but I don&#039;t have the directions. How hard is it to swap out a thermostat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an older model that came with my house. It&#8217;s great. I&#8217;d love to tweak a few of the settings, but I don&#8217;t have the directions. How hard is it to swap out a thermostat?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Through a glass - Just ask the landlord.  My tenant asked me if she could replace her&#039;s and I let her.  There is no reason to say no, it&#039;s an improvement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Through a glass &#8211; Just ask the landlord.  My tenant asked me if she could replace her&#8217;s and I let her.  There is no reason to say no, it&#8217;s an improvement!</p>
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		<title>By: Through a Glass Darkly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Through a Glass Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can renters ever install these?</description>
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		<title>By: Spoonman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spoonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, don&#039;t forget to use the thermostat&#039;s &quot;hold&quot; function when you&#039;re on vacation to set a temp and leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, don&#8217;t forget to use the thermostat&#8217;s &#8220;hold&#8221; function when you&#8217;re on vacation to set a temp and leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pacific Gas and Electric company also provides a $10 rebate when purchasing a programmable thermostat.  You get paid to save!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pacific Gas and Electric company also provides a $10 rebate when purchasing a programmable thermostat.  You get paid to save!</p>
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		<title>By: William Mize</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Mize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely agree.  One of the first things I bought when I got my house was a programmable thermostat.  Best $40 I ever spent.
Previous to that, I had one of those old ancient dial type thermostats.

Paid for itself the first month.  Gravy ever since.
Highly recommend every homeowner check into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree.  One of the first things I bought when I got my house was a programmable thermostat.  Best $40 I ever spent.<br />
Previous to that, I had one of those old ancient dial type thermostats.</p>
<p>Paid for itself the first month.  Gravy ever since.<br />
Highly recommend every homeowner check into it.</p>
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