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	<title>Comments on: Nine Tips For Young People Starting Careers</title>
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	<description>Personal finance that makes cents.  Common sense advice on topics from high interest savings accounts, frugality, cd rates, money market accounts, mortgage rates, how to get out of debt, money management and more.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: More boring stuff from the Net :&#124;&#187;Boringest :&#124; - Moolah!!!</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/09/01/nine-tips-for-young-people-starting-careers/#comment-91030</link>
		<dc:creator>More boring stuff from the Net :&#124;&#187;Boringest :&#124; - Moolah!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Nine Tips For Young People Starting Careers ? Get Rich Slowly Think like your employer. If you were in his place, what would you value in an employee? An excellent way to do this is to skim material he may be reading. You might, for example, read a list of seven characteristics of highly effective employees written (tags: career) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Nine Tips For Young People Starting Careers ? Get Rich Slowly Think like your employer. If you were in his place, what would you value in an employee? An excellent way to do this is to skim material he may be reading. You might, for example, read a list of seven characteristics of highly effective employees written (tags: career) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of the above they are very important even for people going into their first jobs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of the above they are very important even for people going into their first jobs!</p>
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		<title>By: rap-rap</title>
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		<dc:creator>rap-rap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your concepts are really great I have to admit... But I think this got me best...

"But as an employer, I think there are additional attributes that can help you get ahead"

If I summarize your posting... Benefit goes to the boss first... Then next is you... What's perfect about your posting is that the assumption is you have a good and kind boss... And it's the employee who needs to improve...

But my dear employer... Not all boss is as good as you or as you think they are...

If I may request, next time, if you want your posting to target a greater number of people, please work in the assumption that you are in the employee's shoes and the assumption that your not that of an appreciative boss...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your concepts are really great I have to admit&#8230; But I think this got me best&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;But as an employer, I think there are additional attributes that can help you get ahead&#8221;</p>
<p>If I summarize your posting&#8230; Benefit goes to the boss first&#8230; Then next is you&#8230; What&#8217;s perfect about your posting is that the assumption is you have a good and kind boss&#8230; And it&#8217;s the employee who needs to improve&#8230;</p>
<p>But my dear employer&#8230; Not all boss is as good as you or as you think they are&#8230;</p>
<p>If I may request, next time, if you want your posting to target a greater number of people, please work in the assumption that you are in the employee&#8217;s shoes and the assumption that your not that of an appreciative boss&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Baoerhunter &#187; ????????????</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/09/01/nine-tips-for-young-people-starting-careers/#comment-9120</link>
		<dc:creator>Baoerhunter &#187; ????????????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ???????????? &#187; ???-LifeBang</title>
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		<dc:creator>???????????? &#187; ???-LifeBang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pearlandopal</title>
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		<dc:creator>pearlandopal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add a note about this paragraph:

&lt;i&gt;Be flexible — adapt to the demands of the job. There’s nothing more frustrating than employee who grouses, “That’s not my job.” Especially in a small business, your job is whatever your boss asks you to do. Sometimes you’ll need to do tasks that fall outside your job description. Adapt to the situation. Be willing to think outside the box. Employers love this.&lt;/i&gt;

Sure, being flexible is great. Don't get so flexible that you become the department slave, though. This is a big pitfall, especially for young women, who are likely to get pushed into the role of "second secretary" or someone's personal assistant. You need to be able to draw the line between helping out with that big report and picking up dry-cleaning. Unless your job description includes picking up your co-workers' dry-cleaning, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add a note about this paragraph:</p>
<p><i>Be flexible — adapt to the demands of the job. There’s nothing more frustrating than employee who grouses, “That’s not my job.” Especially in a small business, your job is whatever your boss asks you to do. Sometimes you’ll need to do tasks that fall outside your job description. Adapt to the situation. Be willing to think outside the box. Employers love this.</i></p>
<p>Sure, being flexible is great. Don&#8217;t get so flexible that you become the department slave, though. This is a big pitfall, especially for young women, who are likely to get pushed into the role of &#8220;second secretary&#8221; or someone&#8217;s personal assistant. You need to be able to draw the line between helping out with that big report and picking up dry-cleaning. Unless your job description includes picking up your co-workers&#8217; dry-cleaning, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: feld-a-mundo</title>
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		<dc:creator>feld-a-mundo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good list. I would add:
&lt;b&gt;1. Sign up for the company's 401k or retirement savings plan ASAP.&lt;/b&gt; I have added $25K to my net income in five years simply by maxing out my contributions and letting my employer match half of it.
&lt;b&gt;2. Exceed expectations.&lt;/b&gt; That has served me well at every job I've had, from my first position at a grocery store and college internships to my current career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good list. I would add:<br />
<b>1. Sign up for the company&#8217;s 401k or retirement savings plan ASAP.</b> I have added $25K to my net income in five years simply by maxing out my contributions and letting my employer match half of it.<br />
<b>2. Exceed expectations.</b> That has served me well at every job I&#8217;ve had, from my first position at a grocery store and college internships to my current career.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm. That's not exactly what I meant, though it's partly true. Actually, 
I think this would make a great subject for an entire entry. I'll try
to think out loud for you. Let me know if this doesn't answer your
question.

I've known people who treat their job as if its a chore. It's drudgery. 
It's something they have to do, and they hate it. Worse, they think of
themselves as being at war with management. On a couple of the
community sites I read, I routinely see comments from people talking
about how they just do the minimum at work. They're at to screw their 
employer because they believe their employer is out to screw them.

If you're in this sort of job as a career, then get out. Everyone has
to take a shitty job now and then. But these jobs should be used as a
 stepping stone to something else. Kids have to take crappy jobs so that
they learn work skills. If you're in the midst of a life transition,
it's fine to take a shitty job. But don't stay there. If you think of
your job as a chore, you're doing nobody any good. Find something 
better.

Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. That&#8217;s not exactly what I meant, though it&#8217;s partly true. Actually,<br />
I think this would make a great subject for an entire entry. I&#8217;ll try<br />
to think out loud for you. Let me know if this doesn&#8217;t answer your<br />
question.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known people who treat their job as if its a chore. It&#8217;s drudgery.<br />
It&#8217;s something they have to do, and they hate it. Worse, they think of<br />
themselves as being at war with management. On a couple of the<br />
community sites I read, I routinely see comments from people talking<br />
about how they just do the minimum at work. They&#8217;re at to screw their<br />
employer because they believe their employer is out to screw them.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in this sort of job as a career, then get out. Everyone has<br />
to take a shitty job now and then. But these jobs should be used as a<br />
 stepping stone to something else. Kids have to take crappy jobs so that<br />
they learn work skills. If you&#8217;re in the midst of a life transition,<br />
it&#8217;s fine to take a shitty job. But don&#8217;t stay there. If you think of<br />
your job as a chore, you&#8217;re doing nobody any good. Find something<br />
better.</p>
<p>Does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Heimlich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Heimlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 18:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you explain the "Don't treat your job like a chore" point?  It sounds like what you are really saying is don't think of the job as an "every man for himself" position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you explain the &#8220;Don&#8217;t treat your job like a chore&#8221; point?  It sounds like what you are really saying is don&#8217;t think of the job as an &#8220;every man for himself&#8221; position.</p>
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		<title>By: 9 Tips for Career Starters - lifehack.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>9 Tips for Career Starters - lifehack.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andrew W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Know when to go" is terribly important but something a lot of my young colleagues wish we knew earlier. I don't know if it's the same everywhere, but at my first company you became a marked person if you stayed in the entry-level job longer than two years. But it means you have to start looking for that next job almost as soon as you start your first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Know when to go&#8221; is terribly important but something a lot of my young colleagues wish we knew earlier. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s the same everywhere, but at my first company you became a marked person if you stayed in the entry-level job longer than two years. But it means you have to start looking for that next job almost as soon as you start your first.</p>
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