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	<title>Comments on: No One Ever Went Broke Taking a Profit</title>
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	<description>Personal finance that makes cents.  Common sense advice on topics from high interest savings accounts, frugality, cd rates, money market accounts, mortgage rates, how to get out of debt, money management and more.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TATyszka</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-180811</link>
		<dc:creator>TATyszka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If only UPS would drop below 70 again…"

Here's your chance: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=UPS&amp;sid=0&amp;o_symb=UPS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If only UPS would drop below 70 again…&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your chance: <a href="http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=UPS&amp;sid=0&amp;o_symb=UPS" rel="nofollow">http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=UPS&amp;sid=0&amp;o_symb=UPS</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adventures In Money Making</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-90863</link>
		<dc:creator>Adventures In Money Making</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually a better idea is to cut your losses early and let your winner ride. 

You implement a trailing stop loss to prevent profits turning into losses.

also trading in and out of stocks is very tax inefficient. if you want the thrill of trading, use synthetic stock positions (which I discussed recently on my blog).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually a better idea is to cut your losses early and let your winner ride. </p>
<p>You implement a trailing stop loss to prevent profits turning into losses.</p>
<p>also trading in and out of stocks is very tax inefficient. if you want the thrill of trading, use synthetic stock positions (which I discussed recently on my blog).</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-10825</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you decide which stocks to try out?  I usually find it bad practice to choose stocks based on their popularity (of which GM and MS are both examples).  

&lt;a href="http://catchagideon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Catch a Gideon&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you decide which stocks to try out?  I usually find it bad practice to choose stocks based on their popularity (of which GM and MS are both examples).  </p>
<p><a href="http://catchagideon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Catch a Gideon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-10455</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with comparing your gains you took vs the gains you could have had is that you are looking at the prices after they have happened, which skews things.

If you had bought and held AOL from The early 90's until now, you would have seen your $120 stock drop to $15.  If you had bought and held Kmart from the early 90's til now you would have watched your stock disappear at $0 when Kmart declared bankruptcy and restructured.

There are millions of 'should have held' stories that can be told after the fact.  Instead of looking at what could have been, look at the fact that you doubled the market average in less than a year.

Buy and Hold is great if you pick a company that always moves forward, but there are very few of those compared to how many crash and burn.

If you could make just 2% gains a month, getting you a little over 24% gains a year (once you compound), even after taxes it's still a better return than the market average of 11% or the dividend stock average of 14%.  

The key, to me at least, is to protect your capital and let your profits run.  If you can do that, you'll come out way ahead.

You could also avoid the tax issue almost all together if you just sold your profit and kept your initial investment in the stock and then used that cash on dips of the same stock.

Interesting post, thanks for making it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with comparing your gains you took vs the gains you could have had is that you are looking at the prices after they have happened, which skews things.</p>
<p>If you had bought and held AOL from The early 90&#8217;s until now, you would have seen your $120 stock drop to $15.  If you had bought and held Kmart from the early 90&#8217;s til now you would have watched your stock disappear at $0 when Kmart declared bankruptcy and restructured.</p>
<p>There are millions of &#8217;should have held&#8217; stories that can be told after the fact.  Instead of looking at what could have been, look at the fact that you doubled the market average in less than a year.</p>
<p>Buy and Hold is great if you pick a company that always moves forward, but there are very few of those compared to how many crash and burn.</p>
<p>If you could make just 2% gains a month, getting you a little over 24% gains a year (once you compound), even after taxes it&#8217;s still a better return than the market average of 11% or the dividend stock average of 14%.  </p>
<p>The key, to me at least, is to protect your capital and let your profits run.  If you can do that, you&#8217;ll come out way ahead.</p>
<p>You could also avoid the tax issue almost all together if you just sold your profit and kept your initial investment in the stock and then used that cash on dips of the same stock.</p>
<p>Interesting post, thanks for making it.</p>
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		<title>By: 2million</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-10066</link>
		<dc:creator>2million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - I would not recommend Sharebuilder for short term trading.  Sharebuilder is a great product for long term investing (hard to beat $4 buy fee, free DRIP), but you can save more money if you frequently sell elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree - I would not recommend Sharebuilder for short term trading.  Sharebuilder is a great product for long term investing (hard to beat $4 buy fee, free DRIP), but you can save more money if you frequently sell elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kew</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-10044</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*doh*

My mistake. Must read more closely next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*doh*</p>
<p>My mistake. Must read more closely next time.</p>
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		<title>By: VinTek</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-10037</link>
		<dc:creator>VinTek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, taxes are irrelevant, since all this trading took place in a Roth IRA account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, taxes are irrelevant, since all this trading took place in a Roth IRA account.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Wallach</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-10009</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Wallach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 04:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“no one ever went broke taking a profit”

I think this is one of the most dangerous trading truisms.  While it is true that you do not lose money on a trade where you take a profit, this approach makes it much more likely (inevitable?) that you will lose overall.

Acting on this maxim means you limit your profits.  You simply cannot make a large profit, which you need to counteract your inevitable (hopefully small) losses.  Even the best trading systems score 40% - 55% winners.

A better maxim is "cut your losses and let your profits run".  Now ... if I could just stick to it ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“no one ever went broke taking a profit”</p>
<p>I think this is one of the most dangerous trading truisms.  While it is true that you do not lose money on a trade where you take a profit, this approach makes it much more likely (inevitable?) that you will lose overall.</p>
<p>Acting on this maxim means you limit your profits.  You simply cannot make a large profit, which you need to counteract your inevitable (hopefully small) losses.  Even the best trading systems score 40% - 55% winners.</p>
<p>A better maxim is &#8220;cut your losses and let your profits run&#8221;.  Now &#8230; if I could just stick to it &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cap</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-10007</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey who knows. if you stuck w/ the GM stock any longer, it might have taken another beating what with Kirk Kerkorian reconsidering his 10% stake in GM due to the break down in talks w/ Renault and Nissan.

you can always try the many other discount online brokers for these type of investment account, cutting out sharebuilder's wacky $18 "real time" trade fee will save oodles.

e.g., same trades at trade king will save you $24. that's a movie night out w/ dinner! woot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey who knows. if you stuck w/ the GM stock any longer, it might have taken another beating what with Kirk Kerkorian reconsidering his 10% stake in GM due to the break down in talks w/ Renault and Nissan.</p>
<p>you can always try the many other discount online brokers for these type of investment account, cutting out sharebuilder&#8217;s wacky $18 &#8220;real time&#8221; trade fee will save oodles.</p>
<p>e.g., same trades at trade king will save you $24. that&#8217;s a movie night out w/ dinner! woot!</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-9991</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James is correct. I completely forgot about taxes. My return will be even less!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James is correct. I completely forgot about taxes. My return will be even less!</p>
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		<title>By: James Kew</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/08/no-one-ever-went-broke-taking-a-profit/#comment-9990</link>
		<dc:creator>James Kew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to factor in also the tax due on your capital gains -- selling within a year makes you liable at the short-term capital gain rate.

(Another good reason to buy and hold.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to factor in also the tax due on your capital gains &#8212; selling within a year makes you liable at the short-term capital gain rate.</p>
<p>(Another good reason to buy and hold.)</p>
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