Basic Tips on Tipping: How Much and To Whom?
Published on - October 12th, 2006 (Modified on - October 16th, 2006) (by J.D. Roth) Every time I get my hair cut, I’m faced with a dilemma — should I tip the barber or not? I usually get my hair cut in a small-town shop. I tip $2 on a $12 haircut. If I get to hear stories about Vietnam or histrionic political rants, I tip $3, even if I don’t agree with the barber’s viewpoints. (I tip because I’ve been entertained.) Sometimes, if I don’t have enough cash, I don’t leave a anything at all. Are these tips appropriate?
What about when I pick up Chinese takeout? Should I have tipped the guys who delivered our new gas range last fall? What about a hotel bellhop? A parking valet? Out of curiosity, I did some research on tipping practices in the United States. There’s actually significant disagreement about how much to tip for even common services.
For example, you know you should tip your waitress. But how much should you leave? Some people claim that 10% is adequate. Others claim that 20% is standard. But I suspect that most of us learned to tip 15%, and to give more for exceptional service. (The wikipedia entry on tipping currently contains the bizarre claim that “18% is generally accepted as a standard tip for good service”.) Which amount is correct?
After browsing dozens of pages, I drafted the following guide. The amounts listed are based on averages or on consensus, when possible.
Food Service
- Barista
- No tip required, though many suggest throwing coins into the tip jar.
- Bartender
- $1/drink (or 15% of total bill). Pre-tip for better service.
- Delivery person (including pizza)
- 10%, $2 minimum (also, also)
- Maitre d’
- $5-$25 for special efforts
- Takeout
- No tip required unless something special is done (also, also)
- Waiter
- 15% for adequate service, 20% for exceptional service. For poor service, leave 10% or less. It’s okay to leave nothing for exceptionally poor service, but only if you’re sure it’s the waiter’s fault.
Hotel Staff
- Bellman/Porter
- $1 to $2 per bag, $5 minimum. (Or, just as many places say $1 bag, $2 minimum.)
- Concierge
- $5-$20 depending on the service. $20 if he does something exceptional. Nothing for directions.
- Housekeeper
- $2 to $5 per night, paid daily or as a lump sum at checkout. (Most sites suggest you tip daily.)
- Parking Valet
- A wide range of opinions. Everyone agrees that you should pay when your car is retrieved. Some say to pay when it’s parked, too. Most sites say to tip $2, though some suggest $5.
- Room service
- $5 minimum (unless gratuity is included in check)
Travel
- Bus driver (not mass transit)
- $1 to $2, if she handles luggage
- Cab driver
- 10%, $2-$5 minimum
- Chauffeur
- 10-15%
- Gas station attendant
- Nothing. Or $2-$4. There’s no agreement. (I’ve never seen anyone tip a gas station attendant ever.)
- Porter/skycap
- $1 per bag. $2 for heavy items, or if porter brings luggage to counter.
Personal service
- Barber/Hairstylist
- Again, little agreement: 10-15%, 15-20%, etc. One person recommends $5 to each individual who shampoos or blow-dries your hair! (also)
- Manicurist
- 15%
- Spa service
- 15-20%
- Masseuse
- 10-15%
- Shoe-shiner
- $2 or $3
Other
- Building superintendent
- Varies —read more.
- Coat checker
- Most sites recommend $1 per coat, though one said $2 to $5 upon retrieval.
- Furniture deliverer
- It depends. Most of the time $5-$20. Some recommend simply offering cold drinks. (also)
- Grocery store bagger
- One site recommended $1-$3, though I’ve never seen one tipped in my life.
- Mover
- $10-$25 per person (also)
What about tipping at holidays? Tipping service people with whom you have regular contact can build goodwill. I found these recommendations:
Holiday Tips
- Babysitter: one week’s pay
- Doorman: bottle of wine or box of chocolates
- Garbage collector: $15 to $25
- Gardener: one week’s pay
- Housekeeper: one week’s pay
- Janitor: $15 to $25
- Mail carrier: $15 to $20 (up to $20 non-cash)
- Nanny: one week’s pay
- Newspaper delivery person: $15 to $25
- Parking attendant: $15 to $25
- Personal trainer: $20 to $50 (tip discreetly)
Some points regarding tipping etiquette:
- If you use a coupon or gift certificate, calculate your tip based on the total before discount.
- Tip above the norm if:
- Service is exceptional,
- You’ve been a burden, or
- You are a regular client.
- Don’t tip if it’s not deserved. Poor service should not be rewarded.
- In some circumstances, if you offer an initial tip — especially a large initial tip — you’ll get better service.
- If you take up a restaurant table for a long time, tip extra.
- Tip discreetly.
- When in doubt, tip.
What about public officials? When is a tip a tip, and when is a tip a bribe? My wife and I tipped the judge who married us, but even then we had trouble deciding how much to give him. (We gave him $50.)
I suspect that tipping practices vary widely from region-to-region and, especially based upon the size of the city. As always, do what works for you.
Other articles about tipping:
- How to tip in a foreign country
- International tipping etiquette
- Is it better to tip with cash or with credit?
- Tipping at weddings
- Tipping relieves guilt more than it provides incentive
- Tipping etiquette (which is actually the best guide I found)
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You should tip on Take-Away at a restaurant.
They are working their asses off to get the food out to you. And it usually is tipped out 3 ways. People run, bag, and answer phones. And work off of about 2-3 dollars an hour.
So YES you should tip well on Take-Away.
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All the bad tippers on this board have no class. It’s that simple. It’s really not that big of a deal to throw a few extra bucks down. When I go out to eat, I go to have a good time — not to analyze the service. It must stink to be so miserable.
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What is an appropriate tio for a Buffet Brunch that cost $50.00?
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If you are going out to dine the proper tip is 20% before tax. Servers and Bartendrs basically have no salary, they make $3.00 per hour and are taxed on there tips and wages. I also believe that anyone who does a service for you should be tipped.
Tiped employees are tiped becasue they are there to make tips and to live off tips alone. The average check for a server is $50.00 a week if they even get a check after all the taxes are taken out. If there is poor service let that server or manager know in the begining to clarify any problems that could arise througout your dining experience!
JoAnn Bartender/Server Chicago.
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I don’t usually pile on but I just had to add my voice to the chorus of IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO TIP AT LEAST 15% YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS DINING OUT. 15-20% is the cultural norm. If you tip less than that you are telling your server they do not deserve a living wage. If you are not happy with the service, talk to the manager.
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to those of you who think that tipping is an added bonus: have you ever heard of the right to refuse service?
don’t expect to get any service if you are not willing to tip….it is not an added bonus for us; it is our income
our low wage is out of our control. we rely on tips. if you don’t want to pay for service then go to a place like mcdonalds or any other fast food joint where you aren’t paying for quality service.
while, yes, i wish that the employer would pay us higher, it is never going to happen…that’s just the way our system works in the US. if you don’t like it…then move somewhere else.
if you are going out to a restaurant to splurge and don’t think that you can afford the appropriate tip…then you shouldn’t go to a place that far beyond your means…find something more appropriate for your price range….
in short: although it may suck that it is the situation, tips are our main source of income and if you can’t afford to tip, then you shouldn’t be going out to eat and should be saving your money…
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I have worked my share of waitress jobs. In a bar, a steakhouse and a diner. I took the jobs to supplement my income and due to their flexible hours. The jobs were difficult, included more than simple bringing stuff to the table and could at times be stressful.
However, I never made less than minimum wage, even in the dive diner where I worked 3rd shift. The actual “paychecks” I received were always paultry, but the tips added up to at least double minimum wage every time. In the diner and steakhouse, I averaged between 8-12 dollars per hour, this in the ’90s in Southern Illinois (not a hotbed economy to say the least). So that was a very good wage! In the bar, it was quite a bit more stressful but I made quite a bit more money. I worked an average of 4-6 hours and came home with $150-$200 cash after every shift and this again, in the mid ’90s same area.
Another thing I did not noticed mentioned, is that in every single waitress job I had it was explained to me that if during the pay-period my tips + hourly wage did not add up to the minimum wage (at that time minimum wage was $4.25 per hour and my pay was $2.10 per hour) then my employer would pay the difference. My understanding of this was they they have to comply with federal minimum wage regulations. However, I never had to claim this because I always made well above minimum wage. Furthermore, my employers always recommended that I not report tips that excessed the minimum wage so that I would not have to pay tax on that amount. This was before so many people used debit cards for everything, therefore the computer figuring it out for me wasn’t really much of an issue. Now, I’m sure servers are forced to be more transparent in reporting their earnings. My point is that as a server I was never making less than minimum wage (and was reassured that a I never would) and usually skirting paying lots of taxes, so I don’t feel compelled to tip more than what I feel the service I received deserves. If you do a good job, you will make money.
As for tipping, I tip according to the service and surroundings. For a higher end service establishment, I tip more. At a buffet where I serve myself aside from taking the order and setting/bussing the table, I tip less. (6 tables per hour vs 20) If I can see my server is overwhelmed I don’t punish them, making their day worse by shafting them on the tip. However, if the server is just bad (no explainations given, I can see obvious disinterest in serving our table) then I tip accordingly. I’m not worried about supporting my server’s income, if they weren’t making more than minimum wage they wouldn’t be there. If they aren’t able to do a good enough job to make good tips then they shouldn’t be there to begin with. Before waitressing, I worked a few fast food places. You can get just as flexible hours working in a fast food joint and make a little bit over minimum wage, plus you don’t have to serve people. There, you help clean up the place, greet customers, push the buttons, take the money, and hand over the bag.
Lastly, just as matter of principle, why should a 20% tip be required for both the server who waited on you pleasantly and efficiently, and a different server who barely paid attention to you in the same restaurant the next day?
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We always tip at least 20% when we dine out, however, my husband and I are big fans of nice wine. So sometimes our food bill is $50 and the bottle of wine we’ve ordered is $100. How would you handle tipping in that situation? (assuming that a sommelier is not involved). It takes just as much effort to bring me a $100 bottle of wine as it does a $2 beer, right? I don’t really think that the server deserves a $30 tip in that situation. We’ve had lots of debates about this, so maybe you can clear it up for me. Thanks!
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One should ALWAYS tip for services. Even if the service is lousy. A 15% tip for generally good service is acceptable. Leaving someone 5 cents means more than leaving nothing: If you leave nothing, they will think you forgot to leave a tip and/or are cheap. If you leave a low tip, we hope they will get the hint.
Be aware that if you are in large groups, your tip might be already added to the bill. In these cases, feel free to leave an extra dollar by your plate for good service, or don’t for less than excellent service.
If I order pizza, I start with a fixed tip, then subtract for each 5 minutes late. I once had a pizza 1 hour 30 minutes late and cold, even after I called several times and even cancelled it….they told me after 1 hour it was too late to cancel???….do they deserve a tip? (In fact, I refuse to order from my local Domino’s for this fact)
Tips should be for better than average service, not just because someone serves us. While I understand many servers make less than minimum wage, expecting a tip for less than average service does not wash in my book. 15% on a $70 tab is $10.50….not bad for delivering a few dishes and drinks, if you do it right. I should not need to pay that extra for lousy service.
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I forgot to mention….many employers of restaurants already withhold a certain percentage from each waiter/waitress as tips, whether they get the tip or not. If you leave no tip, the service person still has IRS withholding for an “anticipated tip”.
If you pay by debit or credit card, mark ZERO for tip on your receipt and leave your tip in cash on the table.
While I am sure your waiter or waitress is honest on their taxes, don’t hurt them by putting your tip on a paper record, where they might have to pay higher taxes on income that they may have not received. Cash tips are always better.
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If you go to Chinese restaurants in Vancouver, BC (Canada), beware that you might be chased if you didn’t leave tips, even if the service sucks (a turn-off for eating out experience — who wants to tip waitress that literally throw plates at you instead of putting them down politely?)
I came from Asia, and I hate tipping (and tax on top of the tag price, for all that matters). When I don’t cook, I do take-outs instead of delivery or eat-ins, just to avoid that extra % of spendings. You might think it’s only a dollar or two, but it adds up to quite a lot over time.
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[...] Get Rich Slowly has a handy guide for folks who are staying within the US. (And in the comments, Metafilter’s Matt Haughey issues the friendly reminder that big tips often equal better service at places you frequent.) [...]
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Hey Matt-times are tough when you are a student with a wife and child. I get that. But here are some things that might change your perspective on tipping 5%.
Servers are required to tip out support staff (5% of GROSS SALES at my restaurant). There goes the 5% you left me when you ate out on your anniversary-I got $0.00. Wait, there is more: I am required by law to pay taxes on my tips and the law assumes a minimum of 10% of my sales so now I will pay tax on 10% of your bill. If you paid with a credit card, I will have to pay a fee to the restaurant to collect my tip, which I will then hand over to my support staff. So it has actually COST ME MONEY to wait on you.
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I actually for the first time left a horrible tip yesterday. I left $1.25 on $10 and the reason is because the waitress was the worst I have ever had. She did nothing to deserve a tip. Now usually I would leave 20% up to 25% if the service was great. I used to in my younger days serve tables as well and know the plight they have, but you need to offer good serivce in order to get good tips. plain and simple
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Tip the Tow Truck Driver.
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Do you tip the person who does your photfacial and how much? The photofacial costs about $400 for a session that lasts about 45 minutes.
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All you people who are so cheap that you are whining about leaving a 20 % tip you should really get a grip. Is leaving a couple extra dollars really going to kill you? I work really hard every night for all my tables (not just your one table) and i deserve to be compensated for that. The restaurant industry can be very stressful and it really doesn’t help when a lot of customers are ignorant and rude. How many people work in an industry where they are at the mercy of others? I have to go through so much every night for all of my tables and for someone to leave a 10% tip can really bring you down and ruin your night. I also agree with others on here who say that if you can’t leave a good tip you shouldn’t eat there. Take your food to go! Trust me you won’t be missed. Really it comes down to commom courtesy I am providing you with a service and should be compensated accordingly. Also for you bad tippers out there i wouldn’t suggest going to the same place twice because we all let other servers know who tips bad! You will probably get worse service because there is no incentive to do good or you might just get a nice little surprise in your meal. Really don’t mess with people who handle your food!!!!
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I totally agree with Courtney. There’s really no reason to not chip in the extra couple bucks. Waitressing is the number one job for single mothers without a degree. (I learned that from Reservoir Dogs). Even if they’re having a bad day what’s so hard about throwing in an extra 5%.
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I am a decent tipper. The only tip that confuses me (yet I still do it) is for casino dealers!!
If I won a large amount of money, I’m sorry, they’re not getting a big tip! I am at a casino to win money because I don’t have any!!
They are not doing anything particularly special for me to win. I tip them ocassionaly if they are nice to me, give advice or don’t look happy when I lose!
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I will like someone to writte about tipping auto mechanics. As a matter of fact I will soon be doing so. So keep an eye for it. People have a bad percection of us mechanics. But I tell you, not all of us are bad.Tipping to me is a way to say thanks, that’s why you do it after the service is received.
Remember, when in doubt…tipp…
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As an ex-barista from Starbucks, I never cared for or expected to receive tip. It’s not because I’m already subsidised by my parents and I don’t *need* the *extra* money, but it’s because the job was so damn easy I’d wonder why tip was necessary. Also, more importantly, base pay is a big factor since my starting pay was 9.75/hour. So, I never really expected tip unless the drink was customized with ludicrous amounts of ingredients and such. I mean, all we really do is be friendly (which is expected in most jobs), press buttons to shoot espresso, and mix it with milk. If my pay was below minumum wage, then of course I’d expect tip. But a barista workplace isn’t geared to be expecting tips unless it’s a subculture in your area.
I don’t know about all the other coffee places, I’m just sayin’ that generally a barista is not dependent on tips as waiter are and don’t see why baristas complain over no tips.
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Tipping should be reflective of the type of service you get.
The tipping thing has gotten really out of hand. Who don’t you tip? I am customer SERVICE representative and I am never tipped even though my job is 100% service. As far those who say tipping anything below 20 % is cheap makes me want to not tip even more. While it’s true that if you can’t afford a nice resturant it should also true if you have crappy service then you should not tip the same if you have excellent service.
This tipping chart is informative but really it doesn’t end does it…
2 Canadian cents
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I’ve read through all of these comments, and there appears to be a large number of waitresses/servers who are very irate that anyone could ever consider not tipping. I live in Canada and I have been a server, so I can tell you that here most of the time even servers make around minimum wage or $6-7/hour plus tips. While I agree to tip when someone goes out of their way or goes above and beyond their job I don’t think that a waitress, server, garbage man, barista, or even bartender should be tipped for doing their job. If you’re going to say that you should tip at a restaurant 15-20% EVERY time then really what you’re advocating is a wage increase for servers which I do agree with. I believe that the service industry’s expectation that customers will subsidize their employee’s wages is only to the disadvantage of servers and their customers. If I got a great meal why would I tip the person who brought the food to the table? Wouldn’t I want to tip the person who cooked it? Ideally the wage for all service industry employees should be raised to at least the minimum and tips should only be given to those who truly went out of their way, not those who are simply doing what they have to in order to gain an income. How are we supposed to reward good, exceptional, service if everyone is given a tip? Then it’s not a reward but an expectation and thus there is no positive reinforcement when someone does something really great. Also, for those that have commented on here that they work in the service industry and they only make $3.00 or less an hour, if your still working in the service industry than I have to believe that those tips that you are receiving still work out to be a better paying job than a minimum wage Wal-mart or McDonalds, for a job that generally requires no education I would say that’s pretty fair.
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To Heather,
I think it would be a right thing to do when it comes to tipping waiters and waitresses. For a reason, they make under minimum wage. Most places in the US, waitresses only get pay $3.13 for an hour and our pay check is zero. The tip that we receive are our wage. Also, you don’t realize that we have to pay taxes on the tips that we receive as well. We don’t have many choices. No wonder why waitresses and waiters in the US do not like to serve on Canadian, European, and other people are from Southeast Asia. It’s only for couple reasons.
A. They don’t tip
B. They don’t know
C. They don’t want to know
D. They are cheap
E. Or all of the above.
If you don’t tip, welcome to McDonald and other fast food places. If you sit down and demand people to serve you, then you have to tip. Even though you are not happy with the service, you still should leave at least 10% tip. Why is that? It’s because the servers DID serve you and he or she didn’t do a good job or perfect job. However, they did serve you. So you should leave them a tip.
I used to work as a waitress for 8 yrs when I was in college, and I know how hard the waitresses and waiters have to work to make a living. A lot of people DO NOT have many choices to select a certain kind of jobs they want to work, but they have to work around their schedules and take whatever jobs are available to them. In most of the restaurants, waiter and waitress have to tips the busboy, bartender, food runners, and even dishwashers and kitchen helpers. One of the worst place to work for is working in Japanese restaurants, the management makes us have to pool tips, and they make us tip the bartender base on 10% of the total food and alcohol sale, 15% to the bus boy, 5% to dishwashers and kitchen helpers, and whatever left divide between the rest of the waitresses. But when the customers sit at the sushi bar, the sushi chefs allows keeping 80% of the tips and the waitresses only have 20% of the tips from sushi bar. Waitresses do not have much left to take home, and on top of that we have to pay taxes so my pay check for every week is zero or if I am lucky to have $10.00 on the paycheck. That’s how bad it is. Most of the time, the bartender doesn’t even care to make my customer’s drinks even though I was waiting for him, he does not care my customers get mad or not, he always makes his customers’ drinks first because they sit at the bar and he will get more tips from them and let me and other waitresses waiting in line to get drinks from the bar. No matter what he still gets his cut at the end of the night. Chefs in Hibachi restaurants get half of the tips belong to waitresses, and yet the waitresses have to pay the busboy and kitchen helpers again. I am not sure is that legal or not giving half of the tips to chefs and they don’t even claim tax on that tips that they get. Now, I have a professional job, but I would never forget these old days. As a result, I always leave the waitress at least 18% to 25% tip in a buffet restaurant. The other day, I had such a rude and classless waitress in a Ryan restaurant, I was really upset due to her attitude and extremely crappy services, she though that I wouldn’t give her a tip due to my outfit and my nationality, but I still left her 20% tip. I know how she feel if I didn’t leave her any tips. I tried to tell myself that she had a bad day and she does not have an easy job. I think if you had worked in the restaurant industry, you will understand and sympathy for people who have the same job. However, I probably will never come back to that restaurant again.
In addition, I don’t think people should tip the massage therapist at all because they charge $60.00 for an hour, and yet they still want tips tips tips. They said that the management gets half of the $60.00 and they only take home from $20.00 to $30.00 per hour. That’s still plenty to take home for going to training school and still able to make that much of money, and they still want tip. That’s ridiculous. An engineer only makes $25.00 per hour and they have to go to at least 4 years of college. The government should make a law that the employees do not allow receiving tip if they are making minimum wage per hour. It’s annoying me that tip jars are all over the place these days, you go to star buck buy a cup of coffee, and pay $4.00, and you still have to tip? It’s ridiculous and I hate to see that people are trying to take advantage to each other. In addition, my boyfriend and I went on a trolley in Savanna and it cost us $46.00 for both, and yet the drivers are expecting tip as well whenever we get off a stop in a historic town. What the heck is really going on? The tipping things are getting ridiculous.
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To Anon October 12th, 2006 at 9:25 am ,
Please stay home and cook a good meal, it doesn’t seem like you can afford to pay for your meal. You are broke, so you try to make other people broke like you? If you broke or do not have too much money, STAY HOME. You should wait until you graduate and get a good job, then take your wife out for dinner and don’t forget tip the server.
To 44. Jeff and 73.Jeff,
Jeff, you don’t understand that waitress or waiter still have to tips bartender and food runner base on their total food and beverages sale. Waiters and waitress are also the ones clean and set up your table since most of the restaurants do not have busboy any more. Or they have just only 1 busboy for the entire restaurant. That’s not fair for them. How often do you spend $300 on food and drinks? I am very surprise if you do spend that much of money. Usually, people who spend that much of money; they have no problem with tipping with at least 15%.
However, there is a big different in tipping when it comes to foreigners. People are from England, Europe, South America, Asia and Australia don’t know how to tip and very demanding as well. I used to work in this casual restaurant which allows 3 tables per server. When the 2 British customers came to my table, they acted like king and queen (very formal and demanding). They ordered a lot of food but don’t like to serve them fast, and a bottle of cheap wine which is only $30.00 and believe it or not they sat there until the restaurant close, and still they didn’t leave. They sat there from the time the restaurant open and after it already closed. They kept sitting there talked and enjoyed their wine and they finally left after the restaurant closed almost an hour, and I had to wait for them to leave, so I could clean the table and swiped the floor. They left me $10.00 on a $235.00 bill. After all that, they left me $10.00. Then I had to give $2.00 to the bartender, and $3.00 to the food runner. I take home $4.00. I had only 2 tables to turn over on that night. The people are from the UK need to learn how to tips and so do other foreigners as well. You need to learn and respect the culture of the country that you are visit and if you don’t. Don’t come here because it’s cruel not tip your servers, they work so hard and get almost nothing in return. That’s BS. If you don’t agree, get a job as a waiter or waitress in the US. After one week, I guarantee that you will understand and WILL leave your servers at least 15% tip.
To 28. Dave,
Please do waiters and waitresses a big favor. Stay over in Australia and please don’t come to the US, and also make sure if you do come to the US, go straight to fast food area. Please don’t come to the restaurant has people serve on you and leave nothing for tips. That’s totally BS. Keep in mind that they make only $3.00 per hour. They live on tip, so be kind and be considerate. People try to make a living too.
People should not tip barber because he doesn’t get $3.00 per hour. He charges $12.00 per hair cut and still expects tips. That’s ridiculous. For the massage therapist charges $60.00 per hour and still wants tip. They said that they only get $25.00 out of $60.00. That’s $25.00 per hour without a college degree. That is way over the top. They still want clients tip them. They must be out of their mind. I hate to say this but I am not going to tip them. Too greedy!
For waitress and waiter, they can get $100.00 per night if they work in a busy restaurant and had nice and decent customers. Otherwise, they go home with $7.00. I know that because I used to be a waitress.
To 70.Ben ,
There is nothing strange about the system that we have in the US. What are so stressful about leaving a tip for your waiters and waitresses? Do us a favor, just stay wherever you at, don’t you ever come over here and don’t leave your servers tip. Cheer!
To 90.Paul Navish,
You do telephone support for a software firm and you are bitter and NEVER tip anyone because you said you provide consistent excellent job but nobody tip you. For one thing, you don’t deserve a tip with the kind of job that you have. Order your food on the phone for to go and drive your @$$ there and pick it up. Don’t go to the restaurant eat and leave nothing for tip. You sound like you have a SHORT CIRCUIT in your head.
To 94.Tiffany,
This is the board where people can come and express their thoughts, and if you don’t like it. Go to another website and don’t be a smart @$$ around here. Your name can speak for your personality. This one is very special and it’s only for Tiffany #94. According to dictionary.com, Tiff means a slight fit of annoyance, bad mood, or the like, and for fanny sounds like funny but in this case it sounds more like crazy. That’s enough for Tiffany. Get lost now Tiffs. Bye bye
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To Lauren #159,
I think you should tip 7% to 10% on $100.00 bottle of wine, because the restaurant rules make the server pay the bartender $2.00 on each bottle of wine. But if you order a $30.00 bottle of wine, just leave them 10% which is $3.00. The server is always very happy when customers order bottle of wine,they consider that lucky of serving you $100.00 bottle of wine.
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to Cony #129,
how can you open your mouth and say such things? Just do waiter and waitress a favor, please get lost. Your comments are totally ignorant. Don’t go out eat okay? eat at home, otherwise, if you leave no tip, server might spit into your food. You might not remember all of the servers that you have had, but every single one of them remember your face. So good luck, you get what you ask for.
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what’s so hard about tipping??? even if the experience was a bad one it cannot be blamed on the server. they did their best.
at my job, i had a table who as i was bringing their food out changed their order. i told them it was no problem, i’d have it fixed for them. i did. and it was a fast fix. the lady then found something wrong with her salad, instead of just discounting it like is supposed to be done, i took the entire salad off the ticket. when i took their ticket out to them, (a $66 ticket for four people) the guy freaked out at me. they had misunderstood what i’d told them about the pizza they ordered, thinking it would be free for the birthday. the man started yelling at me and calling me dishonest. i went and talked to my manager who took about $16 off their ticket for the mix up. even after everything i did for them (changing their food, taking the salad off the ticket, discounting their ticket) they left me a lousy 77 cent tip.
at my job, we only get $2.13 an hour. EVERYTHING depends on the tip. and then we have to tip the busboys and hostesses from our tips. no matter what happens in your dining experience, a %15 tip should be left.
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I work at a restaurant right now, but just got a call from the YMCA for a lifeguarding position.
This conversation seems to have moved from what should be tipped, to whether to tip at all. I am a host, but I see/talk to the servers about what gets tipped and they make ALOT more then I do, even on a slow day.
I am not advocating leaving no tip, but there is one thing that must be remembered before you leave the restaurant. Was the reason you are leaving no tip because the food prep was slow? Or was it drinks? Or was it just a rude server.
Slow food is NEVER the server’s fault. If you have an order that came out slow, call over a manager and draw it to their attention. This is a problem with the kitchen, and is not a server issue. But even before you call over a manager, look around the restaurant. Is there alot of people with menus, or who have just ordered? Slow food is usually caused by a SUDDEN fill up of the dining room/bar/patio, which the kitchen will react to as fast as possible. Also, did you order a burger? Or did you order chicken wings? Think about how long it may take to prep the food.
If you found that the drinks were slow, first think of whether or not the drink came from the bartender. If you ordered water, or a pop, most likely the server got that for you. But if you ordered a beer, glass of wine, or another alchoholic drink, this came from the bar. This is something else that should be taken to a manager.
The only time the server is at fault and deserves no tip is when:
1. He/She failed to come to the table quickly after you were seated
2. He/She did not bring non-bar drinks quickly.
3. He/She was rude or annoyed with you.
4. The server tampered with your food after it left the kitchen.
THe restaurant is all about trying to please the customer, so that you will come back again soon, and also tell friends that the restaurant was great. If a manager knows that a server is bad, then that server will be fired.
Just, overall, try to think of what a server is responsible for and what they are not. Put yourself in their shoes.
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I’m a food server, and I make 2.13 an hour. When I was on vacation in Australia, where the servers dont expect tips and make around 12-15 dollars an hour, and twice as much on Sundays, and twice and a half on holidays…the service was terrible. They were slow, had to ask for a refill on drinks, not very knowledgable about the menu…why? Because they have no incentive to giving good service. Theyre going to make that 15 dollars an hour, regardless of whether you’re happy or unhappy. If servers were given a higher wage, food prices on the menus would go up, and the service would suffer dramatically. So tip your servers 15-20 percent if the service was good, or stay home and make yourself some Chef Boyardee..cheapskates.
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As to waiters, yes, there are occasionally problems beyond the waiter’s control. I get that. IF they convey what’s going on (e.g. “sorry for the delay, there’s a huge table order just ahead of you…your order should be ready in 10 minutes”), I highly appreciate that and will tip normally (generally 10-15%). If *I* have to call the waiter over to figure out why we’re waiting 45 minutes for our orders, the waiter is going to be lucky to get 5%. Period. I’ve left a restaurant because I was seated and noone came over within five minutes. I don’t care if the circumstances are beyond their control. Has noone ever noticed that charming, moderately attentive servers earn more? I’ve also not tipped in restaurants where they are too attentive, and yes, I know that that’s just generally how it is in the US. I’ve eaten solo and I’ve had waitstaff stop by up to four times *after my food is delivered and I’m reading.* If I’m reading, constantly butting your head in is really, really aggravating — and I won’t tip for that (and I’ll also tell you to leave me alone). Good service involves a lot of paying attention and seeing if someone needs more water/plates need to be cleared/etc. Stopping by right after you’ve watched me put food in my mouth is also a way to lose your tip.
I think tipping for non-table service or take out is generally a load of BS. Why should I tip for a donut? Why should I tip if I get a pre-made sandwich and a bottle of water at Starbucks?! Why should I tip when you’re not waiting on me, and just bringing me food in a box?
I also disagree that you should tip more for complex alcoholic drinks. It’s just what bartenders do and those drinks cost more to begin with. If I find that someone has made a “perfect” drink, I will tip them more in the future.
Waiters so often view themselves as some sort of deity that it’s offensive. In addition, there are so many waiters that are rude as a matter of course, I can’t imagine how they are surprised when they aren’t tipped.
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Malcolm
“Slow food is NEVER the server’s fault. If you have an order that came out slow, call over a manager and draw it to their attention. This is a problem with the kitchen, and is not a server issue.”
Sorry, but you are VERY UNEDUCATED when it comes to restaurant service. My husband and I have had to wait 30 minutes for an appetizer instead of 15 minutes or so. Do you know WHY? OUR WAITER ADMITTED **FORGETTING** TO PUT THE ORDER INTO THE COMPUTER. YOU CANNOT BLAME EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY TIME A CUSTOMERS HAVE TO WAIT A LONG TIME FOR THEIR FOOD ON THE COOKS. To be perfectly honest, the server has VERY MUCH CONTROL of “HOW LONG” I wait for the food unless they put in the order right after getting it and giving it to us right after it was done. If my server decides to buss a table or greet another table, GUESS WHAT HAPPENS? The server intentionally DELAYED the order from getting to the cooks, therefore, even if it’s only a minute or 2 or 3, you know what? THAT’S A REASON WHY WE WAITED THAT EXTRA TIME. The server has to put the order into the computer right after getting it(UNLESS OF COURSE SOMEONE ELSE’S FOOD OR DRINKS IS READY THAT HAD OBVIOUSLY ORDERED BEFORE THE CURRENT CUSTOMERS). If my server decides to pick up dishes instead of putting my order into the computer, that is a DELAY right there, because they usually go to the kitchen to bring those dirty dishes.
Also, you NEVER once said if the server puts in the order incorrectly. My husband and I have had wrong entrees before due to the servers ADMITTING pressing the wrong buttons, therefore, it was my server’s fault those times that we had to wait for our food longer than what we should have. One time my husband ordered 2 side dishes with an entree. The waitress brought out our food without the baked potato my husband ordered. Just let’s say she put the order in correctly, even so, since **SHE** actually brought out the food, **SHE** was the person responsible for bringing it out correctly. HOW can you blame the cook for the server forgetting to bring out a side dish or a side of ranch that was ordered or whatever? It’s the SERVER’S FAULT A LOT for long wait times for food. It HONESTLY IS.
So, NEVER say “NEVER”, because there are SOOOO MANY possibilites. You act so smart, but you have NO CLUE of what you are talking about.
“But if you ordered a beer, glass of wine, or another alchoholic drink, this came from the bar. This is something else that should be taken to a manager.”
Another issue my husband and I have been through twice waiting a very long time for a bar drink. I waited 25 minutes for a margarita and it was because my waiter ADMITTED HE **FORGOT** TO GET IT. You cannot ALWAYS BLAME THE BARTENDER. One time at Chili’s, they were out of the Presidente’ shakers, so my margarita got made in a different glass. My waitress NEVER once went to invesitgate it until 15 minutes went by, by asking me if I received it yet. I had to wait another 15 minutes LITERALLY to get it. Sure you can blame the bartender for not communicating with the waitress, BUT, ANY GOOD, DECENT, WAITRESS AT THE 10 minute mark, would have went to ask the bartender where my margarita was, NOT to have come to me at the 15 minute mark. I feel if YOU are the server, YOU are responsible for finding out where things are. Let’s say I order a burger and I wait 45 minutes, wouldn’t you think by that time I would probably get it and that you should go ask the kitchen staff about where my burger is? Well, same thing with drinks. My server should be writing down when they put the order in on their pad of paper they write the order on to know “HOW LONG” I have been waiting.
“The only time the server is at fault and deserves no tip is when:
1. He/She failed to come to the table quickly after you were seated
2. He/She did not bring non-bar drinks quickly.
3. He/She was rude or annoyed with you.
4. The server tampered with your food after it left the kitchen.”
Again, you are SO UNEDUCATED about restaurant service it’s UNREAL. My husband and I have been overcharged LITERALLY OVER 20 times at restaurants. Some of those servers got stiffed. It’s my SERVER’S RESPONSIBILITY to CARE about my money if they want me to care about theirs. I AM NOT A BABY-SITTER having to check over each item to make sure no extra items are on the bill, the correct amount was billed on our credit card receipt(3 times that happened) and correct prices that match the menu(at least 6 times that’s happened).
When a server brings out the completely wrong food, I feel MOST of the time the server deserves a stiff UNLESS they make-up for it in a huge way, which most servers don’t even tell their managers or ask them to comp something as they should in a situation like that. I feel if you are too damn lazy to even make sure my food is indeed the correct food, WHY should I care about your tip? What goes around, comes around.
“Just, overall, try to think of what a server is responsible for and what they are not. Put yourself in their shoes.”
I do KNOW what they are responsible for, which is MOST aspects of your dining experience. I ALWAYS put myself in their shoes when I think about how to tip. Like for instance, another server brought out ribs instead of what my husband ordered which was a burger. Turns out, not the other server’s fault, but our waitress for putting the order into the computer incorrectly. Instead of going to get the manager to comp something or at least visit our table, she DOESN’T DO ANYTHING. SHE GOT STIFFED. When you cannot take responsibility for your mistake, I will not pay you for being uncaring. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CALL THE MANAGER FOR THAT, BECAUSE MY SERVER MADE THE MISTAKE, I DIDN’T.
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First of all, I really don’t understand why we should give a tip. They will get their salary from their employer. If they receive small wages then they should ask their boss for an increment. If it’s just for appreciation, then how come, we who work in the office, don’t get tip when we have done our job?
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Why should we tip? I don’t tip the cashier in Safeway, and I don’t expect to be tipped for doing my office job. My contract is with my employer – he pays me to give good service to the customers – and I take pride in doing the best job possible because I believe in doing 110% for my customers.
The issue of tipping wait staff, or other so called poorly paid jobs, because “they make minimum wage” begs the question of why they are working for that employer. We here in BC are currently in an almost zero unemployment situation – if you don’t like your job, leave!
In the meantime, I believe that tipping encourages employers to take advantage of workers. If you let them get away with paying you less than you are worth, then who is making money?
When I go to a restaurant and sit down to eat, the posted price includes delivery to the table, and clearing up afterwards. The restaurant owner has included wages for all the staff in the posted price. Why then would I pay MORE by tipping, which only allows the restaurant OWNER to make more money by underpaying staff.
I believe that for good service, which we should expect always, a simple “Thank you” is enough, and if someone makes an extra special effort and you feel that service has been that 110%, then perhaps a small note of appreciation, or a phone call to the person’s boss or supervisor is called for. I prefer a written note, either faxed, emailed or even mailed on occasion for when someone makes an extra special effort on my behalf.
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@April:
I’m afraid you don’t get it. At least here in America, most wait staff are NOT MAKING minimum wage. They are making less then half of it, because the government ASSUMES that people will tip them. So, please, when you visit the states, don’t be a jerk, and tip.
That being said, do i WISH it was the way you assume it is? YES, i hate tipping as well, but i am not going to be an A-hole about it, and hurt the poor waiter because our government sucks.
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You are right, I do not get it, I am Canadian eh, and minimum wage means exactly that – that is the minumum that your employer can pay you. Here in BC that is $8.00 per hour, and according to labour code you cannot be paid less. I don’t know anything about US labour laws, nor do I often go across the border to dine out, my comments are directed to my location and my customs only.
That being said, the same holds true in any country, if the owners are not having to pay their staff properly, then the staff is subsidizing the owners lifestyles, and tipping just creates a vicious circle.
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Great topic,
Someone may have pointed this stuff out but I don’t have time to read all the comments.
So here’s what would happen if you didn’t tip the wait staff: You would have the same people who are pumping your gas serving your food (no offense intended to anyone). To get good serving staff the employer would then have to pay $15 to $25 per hour to their servers (please don’t argue with this # I have been in the industry for 20 years). Believe me it would take at least this for most of us to constantly deal with hungry people (some of which feel so superior) Guess who’s really going to pay for this. You the customer. There is a very tight profit margin in this industry. If anyone thinks that the price of food would stay the same you are sorely mistaken. The price would rise and you would be paying more anyhow. At least with tipping you have a choice about how much you pay.
Or would you prefer a Mcdonald’s type atmosphere and quality of food?
Most servers are generally good with 15% unless the customer was extra demanding or rude.
Customer service is rated in the top ten most stressful lines of employment(if you don’t believe me look it up).
Oh and to Springs1
People like you are the reason serving is so stressful. You think you are educated about serving and that you know exactly what is going on. You seem like you think you are superior to your wait staff and that you could do it so much better. Looking for anything that could be wrong so you don’t have to tip. There is so much going on behind the scenes that the customer doesn’t see. Like when the manager gives the server heck for not cleaning the dishes off the table quick enough. Do you think the manager really cares about you. They want another table in as quick as possible. It’s all about the money. Sure they’ll come and be nice to you comp your bill smile. They want you to leave so they can fill your spot with someone else. I could go on but I won’t.
Stop thinking that you know everything about everything. You even tell someone who works in the industry that they are uneducated about restaurants, when it is YOU that seems uneducated.
Yes, as servers and bartenders we make a good wage(after tips). But believe me $8.00 an hour isn’t near enough to deal with people like you all day long.
We all make mistakes at our jobs (and most jobs aren’t as fast paced as serving). Let’s remember that!
Sorry I just quit smoking…..lol
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To April,
I’m canadaian too! No server wants to hear how good the sevice is and then not receive a tip. Are you kidding me! That’s more of a slap in the face than anything. I GUARENTEE that server would (and REALLY WANTS TO) run after you in the parking lot and give you a piece of their mind if they would’nt lose the job. Like I said, There is a small profit margin in the service industry. Unless you want a Mc D’s style sevice with prices you would call outrageous you should tip.
The “Tippers” are the reason you don’t have to pay more for your food at restaurant. Maybe you should help bare some of the the weight too instead of letting everyone else do it for you.
You must be jealous that you don’t make $20 plus per hour. What? Do you think we are to stupid to deserve a wage like that. I know a person like you would never think something like that.
It’s a hard job folks!
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I’m betting that all these people who don’t believe in tipping properly don’t have the courtesy (or balls) to let their servers know of their intentions beforehand.
If people are so against the idea of a company relying on customer tipping to compensate their employees, then they shouldn’t give them their business. Don’t eat there and let the company make money and then stiff the server on “principle.”
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I agree with Selba and April. Why should anyone have to “tip” anyone for anything? Let’s take a waitress as an example. You’re already paying FAR more for the food than you should have to pay in the first place, then some folks think insult should be added to injury by saying you should have to “tip” the waitress just to bring the food to you. Just what kind of crap is that?What’s the matter? Doesn’t their employer pay them a reasonable salary? And if they don’t, then why not? You can bet your bottom dollar that most restaurant owners could afford to pay their servers a respectable salary so they wouldn’t expect a tip. I know that if my employer didn’t pay me enough so that I had to rely on “tips” to supplement my income, then I would find another job. When I was a kid, I was a grocery bagger who worked for a large retail grocery chain, and I made about $30 to $40 a week. It was a RARE occasion indeed when anyone would give us a “tip”, and WE DID NOT EXPECT IT!!!! We knew knew it was our DUTY to bag the customer’s groceries and take them to their cars. Our customers were the reason we had a job in the first place and we did not expect a handout. As a matter of fact, there was a sign on the door which read, “no tipping, we pay our baggers”. But I see in today’s “gimme, gimme, gimme” society that no one appreciates anything and everyone wants to stand around with a hand stuck out. How ungrateful!
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I suppose then the folks that don’t believe tipping is necessary accept a bonus at their workplace. After all…you’re already getting paid a fair wage right?
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If I get my food with no bodily fluids, and with a minimum of bad-attitude, then I take the amount of the bill, round it to the nearest whole dollar, double it and move the decimal.
I figure, I don’t have energy in my life to quibble over a few dollars, and if it can make someone else’s day run more smoothly, then I’m happy to oblige. Eating out makes me happy, and I don’t mind making the experience happy for the people serving my table.
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I have been in the I.T. field Since I left school in 2003. I recently decided that I am bored to death with the field, and that I want to make a career transition to more creative endeavors. So I took a leap and became a server a mere month ago. I just want to speak to everyone who has posted to this thread with an opinion against the practice of tipping. If you have never been a server there’s no way in hell that you can even begin to understand the infinite layers of complexity that the job entails. During busy shifts, it requires long hours of immense focus, a quick wit with guests, a bubbly personality, new heights of intuition and awareness, and long hours of moving very quickly without stopping. It is not an easy job that might be likened to “bag boy.” I wont say that I disagree with the fact that restaurant owners should pay the Front of House employees a higher wage, and perhaps eliminate, if not at least greatly lower, the tipping standard in this country; but that is not how it is NOW. If you think it should change lobby for it. Make some effort to change it. But surely don’t just unilaterally decide to not to tip when you know fully well how the system works for now.
I am currently working with 4 college graduates and 2 pre-med students; EXTREMELY bright and motivated individuals. The graduates all have undergrad degrees like myself, and either could never find meaningful work in their fields (i.e. english & japanese culture) or they simply didn’t want to work in those fields; they found happiness in the hospitality industry. Some people are happier working in a restaurant. They make their living from tips. Everyone I’ve met so far is very humble, intelligent and down to earth, not full of themselves. Please don’t demean people’s life choices because they aren’t the same as yours.
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A comment on holiday tipping for newspaper carriers-speaking as a proud,tired newspaper carrier, holiday tips are the reward we work for all year. I get up at 3am(yes,AM)7 days a week,365 days a year;no days off,no accumulated sick time, no holidays or vacations unless I pay someone to be my substitute.After gas expenses,I take home barely $ 125 a week.Did I mention I also work full time as do most paper carriers? Plus since my wife works at least 50 hours a week,I’m also the primary care-giver for my 3 children.When you get a nice dry paper in a downpour,I’m getting soaked with both windows open in my car. When you shiver and get up at 4am to get a thicker blanket, I’ve had freezing winds blowing on me for an hour. When your street isn’t plowed and there’s a foot of snow,but your paper is on your porch,I’m driving in dangerous conditions risking my life. Your holiday tips help give my kids a nice Christmas,and maybe some oil in our tank to heat the house.As to the amount;think about it.A $5.00 tip over the course of a year equals less than .10 cents a week for exemplary service.In my mind, at least .50 cents a week or $1.00 a week isn’t too much to ask for my high level of service. So think of this missive next year when you get a Christmas casrd from your paperboy.
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Regarding tipping at a restaurant:
1. 18-20%, minimum. After tax. Like (I think) Shane said, the difference between that and a 15% pre-tax tip is usually a few dollars, and the difference is well worth it. It makes your server happy, which makes your server do a better job for everyone in general and for you in particular when you come back. If you’re a regular, 20% minimum, or give more than that and the staff will know your name and always be happy to see you.
2. Please tip for take out. Especially if the ones wrapping up your food are also serving tables; it means that they are working for tips, making a very low hourly wage. The extra time they spend making sure your order is right is time away from tables that are probably paying them more.
3. Echoing what was said earlier, because it bears repeating: If you cannot afford to tip reasonably, at the VERY LEAST 15% after tax, you cannot afford to eat out. Pick a cheaper place, or get takeout and give 10%, or suck it up and give a real tip if you want to have a nice night out. Period.
4. Don’t insult your server with a penny. God. Was your experience really THAT bad? Was it really your server’s fault? Could there have been something else going on? Maybe they’re understaffed, or something you didn’t see happened in the kitchen. The only message a penny tip leaves is that you’re an asshole.
5. A dollar for your bartender to open your beer is too much? Fine. Get a six pack and go home to drink your cheap beer. See a theme here? If you are too cheap to tip, if you don’t believe in it, or if you want to send a message that you are unsatisfied, whether it’s with a particular incident or with the system of tipping in general, don’t give your money to establishments like bars and restaurants.
6. Thank you to all of you who do give a little extra. It hardly makes a difference to your wallet, and it makes a ton of difference to your bartender or server, believe me.
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I live in the US and I never tip anyone, anywhere. Tipping encourages people to waste their time in crappy little jobs that will go nowhere. People should use their creative brains, work hard, and move up in life.
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Tipping is dependant upon service. I tip generously when service is good. 99% of the time the tip is 20% plus but there are also times when no tip is warranted. Empty restaurant… waitstaff chatting around the till. Do they deserve any extra? I’ve been seated and ignored for 30 minutes and gotten to the point where I’ve thrown my menu at waitstaff to get noticed. As someone has said the waitstaff is my only point of contact. They do take the brunt of it. But you know what??? In my job it is the same thing. If our salespeople don’t sell… I don’t get my tips (bonus) either. If I mess up and cost the company money… the salespeople don’t get their bonus either. Saying that if you can’t afford to tip then don’t eat out is absolutely asinine and ignorant. A tip is not a right. It is not required. It’s a reward for a job well done. Read the definition of a tip and it’s origin – to give unexpectedly. More importantly, if I get poor service… and whether I choose to leave a tip or not… I will more than likely not return. Waitstaff has to realize that they are on the frontlines and are representing the establishment. What they do, not only determines their tip but whether I return or not. That being said I can not remember the last time I did not leave a tip but I definitely remember the last time I had a good meal but poor service and decided not to return. And it just baffles me that people do not tip the gas attendant. He’s / she’s out there in crappy weather, running around, dealing with customers. They don’t deserve a tip like anyone else?
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Always tip your servers.
If you don’t understand why I say that, then you should visit your local restaurant and ask if you can shadow a server during a busy night shift. You’ll quickly learn the difficulty and ridiculous amount of stress that go with their job.
The quote “Is it really that hard to take a food order” is overrated. Imagine that it takes you probably an hour to prepare, make, finalize, clean, a meal. Multiply that by approximately 16 people.
You visit restaurants for the environment, atmosphere, sociality, and excitement. You could cook at home, but this is a key to casual dining.
Thank your server, tip a 15% min.
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