Comments on: Basic Tips on Tipping: How Much and To Whom? http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/ Common sense advice on money saving tips, how to get out of debt, high interest savings accounts, cd rates, money market accounts, mortgage rates, money management and more. Wed, 22 May 2013 05:54:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dennis http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3322605 Dennis Tue, 07 May 2013 10:15:15 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3322605 Tip your mailman in cash, don't buy into the no cash thing. This is from a retired letter carrier. Cookies or spirits are nice gestures and appreciated, but $10-$20 should be the standard. Tip your mailman in cash, don’t buy into the no cash thing. This is from a retired letter carrier. Cookies or spirits are nice gestures and appreciated, but $10-$20 should be the standard.

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]]> By: LD @ Personal Finance Insider http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3309029 LD @ Personal Finance Insider Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:00:06 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3309029 Like many of the readers, I'm quite frugal. However, it's important to not be cheap and to pay a fair tip when appropriate. Like many of the readers, I’m quite frugal. However, it’s important to not be cheap and to pay a fair tip when appropriate.

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]]> By: Jim http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3306995 Jim Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:20:42 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3306995 I live in Toronto, 15 % for waiter is common. No one tips movers though...at least from what I know. Correct me if I am wrong. Anyone from Toronto that can share their experience? I live in Toronto, 15 % for waiter is common. No one tips movers though…at least from what I know. Correct me if I am wrong. Anyone from Toronto that can share their experience?

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]]> By: Jonah Kivela http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3302835 Jonah Kivela Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:00:56 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3302835 This excellent website certainly has all the information I wanted about this subject and didn’t know who to ask. This excellent website certainly has all the information I wanted about this subject and didn’t know who to ask.

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]]> By: guzsaj http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3302815 guzsaj Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:35:19 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3302815 I just never understood: why not include the tip in the price/salary? Tipping is not good on the long run for the reciever. The custom of tipping gives an excuse for the employer to continue to be a greedy bastard and keep the wages unfairly low. I just never understood:
why not include the tip in the price/salary?
Tipping is not good on the long run for the reciever. The custom of tipping gives an excuse for the employer to continue to be a greedy bastard and keep the wages unfairly low.

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]]> By: tipmovers http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3302641 tipmovers Sat, 23 Mar 2013 19:20:40 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3302641 I've been surfing online more than 3 hours today, yet I never found any interesting article like yours. It's pretty worth enough for me. Personally, if all site owners and bloggers made good content as you did, the net will be much more useful than ever before. I’ve been surfing online more than 3 hours today, yet I never found any interesting article like yours. It’s pretty worth enough for me.
Personally, if all site owners and bloggers made good content as you did, the net will be much more useful than
ever before.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3284481 Dave Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:11:59 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3284481 David, Even in '64, tips were routinely given. Even in the most modest hash-slinging joint. Of course, in those days, "waitresses" or "hash-slingers" received full minimum wage. It wasn't until 2006 that employers were able to pay less than minimum wage in 47 of the 50 states (the three West Coast states still mandate a full minimum wage). I can only remember back to about '66, when my father taught me the basics of tipping. This isn't a new phenomenon by any means. Back in the days that you talk about, there were only diners and joints and free-standing high end standalone restaurants. There were no chains other than Big Boy, Howard Johnsons, and perhaps one or two others. Back then, you always tipped your diner "waitress" (how provincial you are not to realize that there are many men who wait tables). If you were dining at one of the fine dining establishments, not only did you tip your captain, you also tipped the maitre 'd. You are expected to tip nowadays because you are paying for services rendered. It is a social compact with a long tradition. The price you pay for your meal only partially compensates the server's wage. In my state, I make 2.13/hr. A couple of states go up to just above $5/hr (most fall in between). To demand that we find another job is fine, but then who are you going to get to wait on you when you want to dine out? You are sadly out of touch, but that' to be expected for someone who "grew up in the restaruant business" during the 50s and early 60s. Sadly, you were even out of touch during that time if you didn't think that the "waitresses" that worked your family's business depended on tips to supplement their income. Just sayin'. David,

Even in ’64, tips were routinely given. Even in the most modest hash-slinging joint. Of course, in those days, “waitresses” or “hash-slingers” received full minimum wage. It wasn’t until 2006 that employers were able to pay less than minimum wage in 47 of the 50 states (the three West Coast states still mandate a full minimum wage).

I can only remember back to about ’66, when my father taught me the basics of tipping. This isn’t a new phenomenon by any means.

Back in the days that you talk about, there were only diners and joints and free-standing high end standalone restaurants. There were no chains other than Big Boy, Howard Johnsons, and perhaps one or two others. Back then, you always tipped your diner “waitress” (how provincial you are not to realize that there are many men who wait tables). If you were dining at one of the fine dining establishments, not only did you tip your captain, you also tipped the maitre ‘d.

You are expected to tip nowadays because you are paying for services rendered. It is a social compact with a long tradition. The price you pay for your meal only partially compensates the server’s wage. In my state, I make 2.13/hr. A couple of states go up to just above $5/hr (most fall in between). To demand that we find another job is fine, but then who are you going to get to wait on you when you want to dine out?

You are sadly out of touch, but that’ to be expected for someone who “grew up in the restaruant business” during the 50s and early 60s. Sadly, you were even out of touch during that time if you didn’t think that the “waitresses” that worked your family’s business depended on tips to supplement their income.

Just sayin’.

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]]> By: David http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3284371 David Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:14:59 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3284371 John...I grew up in the restaurant business, leaving in about '64 when my family sold out. I started in '54, at eight years old and can't remember when you became "servers" instead of waitresses or " hash slingers". Why do I owe you a tip for doing your job? Exceptional service, out of ordinary or simply appreciation, I can understand, but OWE you...never ...get a real job if you don't like it. I really don't care if you are in colle3ge or what your personal situation might be...you got there...you get out...OWE you. Quit smoking that stuff and get your GED. I'm not cold or uncaring, I just think one should take responsibility for their situation. You don't have to wait tables. I'm very amazed that the US has bought into this crap that we owe you for doing your job. My family, uncles, aunts, grandparent and parents as well as my siblings have worked in restaurants since 1930 and have NEVER felt as if you owed us anything other than basic human respect. Quit sponging from others...take control of your life...quit whining. I would certainly be interested in responses, but don't expect me to care! John…I grew up in the restaurant business, leaving in about ’64 when my family sold out. I started in ’54, at eight years old and can’t remember when you became “servers” instead of waitresses or ” hash slingers”. Why do I owe you a tip for doing your job? Exceptional service, out of ordinary or simply appreciation, I can understand, but OWE you…never …get a real job if you don’t like it. I really don’t care if you are in colle3ge or what your personal situation might be…you got there…you get out…OWE you. Quit smoking that stuff and get your GED. I’m not cold or uncaring, I just think one should take responsibility for their situation. You don’t have to wait tables. I’m very amazed that the US has bought into this crap that we owe you for doing your job. My family, uncles, aunts, grandparent and parents as well as my siblings have worked in restaurants since 1930 and have NEVER felt as if you owed us anything other than basic human respect. Quit sponging from others…take control of your life…quit whining. I would certainly be interested in responses, but don’t expect me to care!

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]]> By: Dave http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3279361 Dave Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:52:37 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3279361 You think it's expensive NOW? Wait until restaurants have to pay more than 2.13 - 5/hr. Yes, that's right, I make 2.13 an hour. No, I'm not bitching because most people understand how to tip. I know that, as a student, you haven't learned very much about life yet, but you will. It sucks to have to pay for things, but that's the way it is. Your parents won't always be there to pay for the things that you want or need. Time to get up to speed. PS, as a student, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't end up waiting tables at some point. You'll see THEN what tipping is all about. Fortunately, when I was growing up, my parents taught me about tipping very early. If only yours had. PS, you don't have a source of income? Then you don't eat out. Simple as that. Stay with the meal plan. You think it’s expensive NOW? Wait until restaurants have to pay more than 2.13 – 5/hr. Yes, that’s right, I make 2.13 an hour. No, I’m not bitching because most people understand how to tip. I know that, as a student, you haven’t learned very much about life yet, but you will. It sucks to have to pay for things, but that’s the way it is. Your parents won’t always be there to pay for the things that you want or need. Time to get up to speed. PS, as a student, I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t end up waiting tables at some point. You’ll see THEN what tipping is all about.

Fortunately, when I was growing up, my parents taught me about tipping very early. If only yours had.

PS, you don’t have a source of income? Then you don’t eat out. Simple as that. Stay with the meal plan.

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]]> By: Pie http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3278815 Pie Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:45:31 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3278815 \Bah, tipping is such a pain in the butt. Food in restaurants are already expensive.. 10$+ and on top of that, servers expect tip. In my experience, some servers would actually bluntly say, "That's not enough." WTF. I at least paid the food bill and did not run off. How would I ever understand the art of tipping? I'm a student so I don't have a source of income. pfft. \Bah, tipping is such a pain in the butt. Food in restaurants are already expensive.. 10$+ and on top of that, servers expect tip. In my experience, some servers would actually bluntly say, “That’s not enough.” WTF. I at least paid the food bill and did not run off. How would I ever understand the art of tipping? I’m a student so I don’t have a source of income. pfft.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3277941 Dave Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:06:06 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3277941 Why? The system works pretty well. Most people, and I've waited on over 10,000 people in my time, have no problem with the system. What do you think will happen with menu prices if you do away with tipping? Do you really think that you're going to pay less? Think again. Current prices are based on the tipping system and the wage structure. If that changes, now you're at the mercy of the restaurant owners and, believe me, they will stick it to you if their wages go up dramatically. And, at least now you have some say in how service is financially rewarded. Finally, the system is pretty engrained for full service restaurants. It's not likely to change. It's been around longer than you've been alive. Why? The system works pretty well. Most people, and I’ve waited on over 10,000 people in my time, have no problem with the system. What do you think will happen with menu prices if you do away with tipping? Do you really think that you’re going to pay less? Think again. Current prices are based on the tipping system and the wage structure. If that changes, now you’re at the mercy of the restaurant owners and, believe me, they will stick it to you if their wages go up dramatically. And, at least now you have some say in how service is financially rewarded. Finally, the system is pretty engrained for full service restaurants. It’s not likely to change. It’s been around longer than you’ve been alive.

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]]> By: shaw http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3277825 shaw Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:10:55 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3277825 Why can't they just get rid of tips? Let tips be optional. Let servers get at least minimum wage. Don't force people to pay tips. Why can’t they just get rid of tips?
Let tips be optional. Let servers get at least minimum wage. Don’t force people to pay tips.

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]]> By: Jonathan http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-1/#comment-3229552 Jonathan Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:12:06 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3229552 I work in a casino as a cashier, the largest single tip i have received was 500$ off a $20,000 jackpot, but others have received more. Tips in a single night, i got $794 in a single night. The largest amount i have heard about at once, is $1000 off a $10,000 jackpot... The most in a single night goes to a blackjack dealer with $17,000 in a single night. The most money I've given in a tip is... on a first date... $32 tab and i gave a hundred. If i have money i tip always, give money to the santa infront of walmart and i will even give my last $ away. I work in a casino as a cashier, the largest single tip i have received was 500$ off a $20,000 jackpot, but others have received more. Tips in a single night, i got $794 in a single night. The largest amount i have heard about at once, is $1000 off a $10,000 jackpot… The most in a single night goes to a blackjack dealer with $17,000 in a single night. The most money I’ve given in a tip is… on a first date… $32 tab and i gave a hundred. If i have money i tip always, give money to the santa infront of walmart and i will even give my last $ away.

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]]> By: John http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3201132 John Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:52:58 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3201132 Clearly you were never a server, because it is never ok to leave nothing. Clearly you were never a server, because it is never ok to leave nothing.

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]]> By: Sarah http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3195472 Sarah Thu, 03 Jan 2013 21:39:11 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3195472 We charge 15$ a hair cut that money doesn't go to us it goes to the salon we get a paycheck every 2 weeks just like you guys and we make an hourly rate usually and not much more than minimum wage at that!! We live on our tips and our pay checks go to hills .. Anything under 5 is an insult to us . If are a regular client and we know you top like crap you haircut will be rushed , we are going you mediocre service for your mediocre tip, we won't go the extra mile . We are a fast pace business and with that bing said we make money depend inch on how much work we do, we won't take as much care to someone who is. 3$ tipper vs 6$ tipper .. Granted u will still get a good hair cut , but we won't go the extra mile -12 years a hairstylist We charge 15$ a hair cut that money doesn’t go to us it goes to the salon we get a paycheck every 2 weeks just like you guys and we make an hourly rate usually and not much more than minimum wage at that!! We live on our tips and our pay checks go to hills .. Anything under 5 is an insult to us . If are a regular client and we know you top like crap you haircut will be rushed , we are going you mediocre service for your mediocre tip, we won’t go the extra mile . We are a fast pace business and with that bing said we make money depend inch on how much work we do, we won’t take as much care to someone who is. 3$ tipper vs 6$ tipper .. Granted u will still get a good hair cut , but we won’t go the extra mile -12 years a hairstylist

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]]> By: Jessica http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3180642 Jessica Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:41:36 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3180642 I heard someone say they tip delivery people (such as those who deliver goods, such as fridges, T.V.'s, furniture, but doesn't tip if they are delivering smaller items (such as books, or cd's or movies or video game systems, that sort of thing). This person mentioned that although he/ she doesn't, it might be considered offensive by the person who is not tipped. Problem. What if the delivery is made, and left, while you are not home? Also, I have an aunt who does not believe in tipping. I find this sort of interesting. Another aunt of mine (her younger) sister used to own a restaurant, and mentioned that most, if not all servers, rely on tips. I think that without tipping (at least one's server at a restaurant), prices of meals would go up in restaurants, and probably would not make many restaurant goers too happy. I also saw a chart and found it funny that it says to give the shampoo person a $2 tip. My experience since who knows how long is that the shampoo person is the same person who cuts ones hair! We should remember though, in my opinion, to not over or under tip a person I heard someone say they tip delivery people (such as those who deliver goods, such as fridges, T.V.’s, furniture, but doesn’t tip if they are delivering smaller items (such as books, or cd’s or movies or video game systems, that sort of thing). This person mentioned that although he/ she doesn’t, it might be considered offensive by the person who is not tipped. Problem. What if the delivery is made, and left, while you are not home? Also, I have an aunt who does not believe in tipping. I find this sort of interesting. Another aunt of mine (her younger) sister used to own a restaurant, and mentioned that most, if not all servers, rely on tips. I think that without tipping (at least one’s server at a restaurant), prices of meals would go up in restaurants, and probably would not make many restaurant goers too happy. I also saw a chart and found it funny that it says to give the shampoo person a $2 tip. My experience since who knows how long is that the shampoo person is the same person who cuts ones hair! We should remember though, in my opinion, to not over or under tip a person

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]]> By: Brian http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-1/#comment-3136012 Brian Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:20:25 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3136012 I live in a tax everything state I tip total bill post tax &% or less wont affect the tip much either way. I Tip 15% at restraunts for full service much less at service your self(buffet). the worse the service the smaller the tip. for superior service a 15+% tip and a call the the manager. the boss needs to know who does it right as much as who does it wrong. They usually only get bad calls and a good one lets them know that they and their staff are doing it right. I live in a tax everything state I tip total bill post tax &% or less wont affect the tip much either way. I Tip 15% at restraunts for full service much less at service your self(buffet). the worse the service the smaller the tip. for superior service a 15+% tip and a call the the manager. the boss needs to know who does it right as much as who does it wrong. They usually only get bad calls and a good one lets them know that they and their staff are doing it right.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3123152 Steve Thu, 29 Nov 2012 01:36:50 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3123152 Coming from a place that does not do tipping (IE, pretty much everywhere in the world apart from the USA) it simply doesn't make sense to do this rather than pay workers a fair salary. It adds confusion and disagreement over what customers should pay. Yes, of course servers deserve to be paid fairly for what they do, and I don't think anyone here disagrees with this; the debate is because it is unclear - particularly to tourists who do not have this culture - how much should be paid. In my opinion, a lot of angst would be saved if the employer decided this by paying a fair wage and there was no tipping. There are then additional problems when you're working on expenses because tips do not usually have a receipt. If they are fair payment for work done (rather than a gift) there should be a claimable receipt, but there generally isn't... To people who claim that lack of tips would result in poor service, I would argue that the job of management is to monitor this. If your staff give poor service, replace them. If they give good service, promote them or pay a bonus, as in other jobs. This is sufficient motivation elsewhere; or are the management simply lazy, and want the customers to erratically do the managers' job? Of course, tipping is now so ingrained in USA society that it is unlikely to ever change. Coming from a place that does not do tipping (IE, pretty much everywhere in the world apart from the USA) it simply doesn’t make sense to do this rather than pay workers a fair salary. It adds confusion and disagreement over what customers should pay.

Yes, of course servers deserve to be paid fairly for what they do, and I don’t think anyone here disagrees with this; the debate is because it is unclear – particularly to tourists who do not have this culture – how much should be paid. In my opinion, a lot of angst would be saved if the employer decided this by paying a fair wage and there was no tipping.

There are then additional problems when you’re working on expenses because tips do not usually have a receipt. If they are fair payment for work done (rather than a gift) there should be a claimable receipt, but there generally isn’t…

To people who claim that lack of tips would result in poor service, I would argue that the job of management is to monitor this. If your staff give poor service, replace them. If they give good service, promote them or pay a bonus, as in other jobs. This is sufficient motivation elsewhere; or are the management simply lazy, and want the customers to erratically do the managers’ job?

Of course, tipping is now so ingrained in USA society that it is unlikely to ever change.

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]]> By: Clayton http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3123002 Clayton Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:52:57 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3123002 Restaurant's already tell you what an average tip is! In retrospect to my college years as a waiter 18% was the provided gratuity managers placed on your party of 8 or more*, usually because your party was the only table they can serve and most people do not realize how high their tabs are until they are paying... So they make you pay what they would average from a full section! On different note, If your service was so horrible you don't want to leave a tip, go talk of your bad experience to the manager (the higher up). They have more power to turn your night around so you may remember it as enjoyable. These managers strive to please quality customers that aren't scamming them for free shit, and they try to hire good servers so they can spend more time dealing with the scammy people and less with you. At least speak to them. As the customer you CAN inform them of the quality of their establishment. They don't walk table to table asking if everything's okay for you to stiff the server and confuse the hell out of everyone or appear cheap, just talk! Restaurant’s already tell you what an average tip is! In retrospect to my college years as a waiter 18% was the provided gratuity managers placed on your party of 8 or more*, usually because your party was the only table they can serve and most people do not realize how high their tabs are until they are paying… So they make you pay what they would average from a full section!
On different note, If your service was so horrible you don’t want to leave a tip, go talk of your bad experience to the manager (the higher up). They have more power to turn your night around so you may remember it as enjoyable. These managers strive to please quality customers that aren’t scamming them for free shit, and they try to hire good servers so they can spend more time dealing with the scammy people and less with you. At least speak to them. As the customer you CAN inform them of the quality of their establishment. They don’t walk table to table asking if everything’s okay for you to stiff the server and confuse the hell out of everyone or appear cheap, just talk!

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]]> By: Clayton http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-1/#comment-3122912 Clayton Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:27:51 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3122912 It's easy to say my job is harder than yours, but a lot of waiters are trying to put themselves through school, like I did, and it's still the most common freaking job for college kids. Not to mention how many single mothers wait tables in every restaurant, you seriously think their tight schedules let them work anywhere but Claim Jumper. Selfishness or Ignorance are the only good excuses for less than 10%. 10% already says poor service. The only reason tips increase down the line is because the job market increases, and your tip money is not pocketed by one or two people anymore. Servers tip out up to One Food Runner, One Busser, One Porter and if there is a bar (no matter how much alcohol is sold) they tip them out too! So 10% minus the standard 3-6% TIPOUT really adds to 7-4%. Measly crap if you don't even make a full minimum wage! A lot of stress to never know what potential money you could earn despite your work ethic and quality of serving. Hence I was thrilled to put it all behind me. I tip 18% for decent service and good drinks. If I had No complaints and enjoyed myself 20%. 15% is reserved for Okay service. 20%+ is Exceptional service, the waiter genuinely showed appreciation and remembered me from 2 months ago. I leave 10% a handful of times and the waiter knows he Messed up. If the food took to long or it sucked or my cocktail was poorly made, I talk to a manager. This helps them fix it in the future, after all leaving a lower tip for any of these reasons only makes my server think THEY did something wrong. It’s easy to say my job is harder than yours, but a lot of waiters are trying to put themselves through school, like I did, and it’s still the most common freaking job for college kids. Not to mention how many single mothers wait tables in every restaurant, you seriously think their tight schedules let them work anywhere but Claim Jumper. Selfishness or Ignorance are the only good excuses for less than 10%. 10% already says poor service. The only reason tips increase down the line is because the job market increases, and your tip money is not pocketed by one or two people anymore. Servers tip out up to One Food Runner, One Busser, One Porter and if there is a bar (no matter how much alcohol is sold) they tip them out too! So 10% minus the standard 3-6% TIPOUT really adds to 7-4%. Measly crap if you don’t even make a full minimum wage! A lot of stress to never know what potential money you could earn despite your work ethic and quality of serving. Hence I was thrilled to put it all behind me.
I tip 18% for decent service and good drinks. If I had No complaints and enjoyed myself 20%. 15% is reserved for Okay service. 20%+ is Exceptional service, the waiter genuinely showed appreciation and remembered me from 2 months ago. I leave 10% a handful of times and the waiter knows he Messed up.
If the food took to long or it sucked or my cocktail was poorly made, I talk to a manager. This helps them fix it in the future, after all leaving a lower tip for any of these reasons only makes my server think THEY did something wrong.

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]]> By: Susanne Powell http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-1/#comment-3121462 Susanne Powell Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:37:06 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3121462 What many folks fail to understand is that your server works many hours filling salt shakers, cleaning their stations, windows, tables, setting up tables, desert areas, salad areas, etc. at 2-3 dollars an hour. Unless they are just awful, they should get the 15% just to make minimum wage. If servers give exceptional service they have earned a higher percentage tip. People assume servers just stand around waiting to serve YOU! Believe me they don't. They work long hours for $2-3 an hour just to make your evening perfect so you can have an enjoyable dining experience. A real professional server is a hard working consciencious employee whose goals are to share in and help create a pleasant and memorable dining experience for you, the customer. So, please tip these good servers properly. They work hard for their money and have families, too What many folks fail to understand is that your server works many hours filling salt shakers, cleaning their stations, windows, tables, setting up tables, desert areas, salad areas, etc. at 2-3 dollars an hour. Unless they are just awful, they should get the 15% just to make minimum wage. If servers give exceptional service they have earned a higher percentage tip. People assume servers just stand around waiting to serve YOU! Believe me they don’t. They work long hours for $2-3 an hour just to make your evening perfect so you can have an enjoyable dining experience. A real professional server is a hard working consciencious employee whose goals are to share in and help create a pleasant and memorable dining experience for you, the customer. So, please tip these good servers properly. They work hard for their money and have families, too

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]]> By: teleburst http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3109042 teleburst Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:35:11 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3109042 I don't believe you. Simple as that. Internet loudmouths are the worst. I don’t believe you. Simple as that. Internet loudmouths are the worst.

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]]> By: teleburst http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3109022 teleburst Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:31:50 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3109022 It's awkward and embarassing only if you haven't bothered to do your research on customs before you go to a country. Frankly, the no receipt thing is a red herring. Ever heard of credit cards? You are all too happy to come to the US and enjoy the large portions and cheap prices for meals, forgetting that the "help" doesn't make the salary that the "help" in your country makes. Yep, when I wait on an Australian, I generally get offended (once, I was left $3 on a $60 check). Cheapness has no borders. However, there are Australians who DO understand the economics and customs of dining in the US. It's usually those who are REALLY well-seasoned travelers who abide by local customs, not folks like you who turn a blind eye to it because they want a free ride. It’s awkward and embarassing only if you haven’t bothered to do your research on customs before you go to a country. Frankly, the no receipt thing is a red herring. Ever heard of credit cards? You are all too happy to come to the US and enjoy the large portions and cheap prices for meals, forgetting that the “help” doesn’t make the salary that the “help” in your country makes.

Yep, when I wait on an Australian, I generally get offended (once, I was left $3 on a $60 check). Cheapness has no borders. However, there are Australians who DO understand the economics and customs of dining in the US. It’s usually those who are REALLY well-seasoned travelers who abide by local customs, not folks like you who turn a blind eye to it because they want a free ride.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3107592 Steve Tue, 20 Nov 2012 00:54:56 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3107592 For those of us from Australia or New Zealand (no tipping at all) or the UK outside of London (10% in a nice restaurant, round up the taxi fare to nearest pound) the whole USA tipping things is awkward, embarassing and expensive. Also, if you are a business traveller, you can't claim back tips as expenses (no receipt) and so if you're being expected to pay 20% surcharge from your own pocket it becomes way too expensive. This is one reason I hate business trips to the US (the other is the TSA jerks). I must have offended whole legions of people during my first few trips to the US before finding out about tips, and probably still do as I've been tipping 10% as normal... For those of us from Australia or New Zealand (no tipping at all) or the UK outside of London (10% in a nice restaurant, round up the taxi fare to nearest pound) the whole USA tipping things is awkward, embarassing and expensive.

Also, if you are a business traveller, you can’t claim back tips as expenses (no receipt) and so if you’re being expected to pay 20% surcharge from your own pocket it becomes way too expensive. This is one reason I hate business trips to the US (the other is the TSA jerks).

I must have offended whole legions of people during my first few trips to the US before finding out about tips, and probably still do as I’ve been tipping 10% as normal…

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]]> By: Thain http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3099232 Thain Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:40:54 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3099232 In Oregon, there are no self-serve gas stations. If the attendant washes my windshield, I tip a dollar. I think this should be correct. I can understand not tipping in self-serve gas states: there is no service. In Oregon, there are no self-serve gas stations. If the attendant washes my windshield, I tip a dollar. I think this should be correct. I can understand not tipping in self-serve gas states: there is no service.

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]]> By: gwen http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-1/#comment-3085552 gwen Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:44:45 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3085552 i think you dont realize that most servers dont get an hourly wage over like $3 per hour. Which means ..THEY DONT GET A PAYCHECK (because the government gets it). So although you THINK you are ENTITLED to get someone to wait on you hand and foot without getting paid to do so.. maybe you dont realize that nothing in life is free. So tip your server AT LEAST 15%. i think you dont realize that most servers dont get an hourly wage over like $3 per hour. Which means ..THEY DONT GET A PAYCHECK (because the government gets it). So although you THINK you are ENTITLED to get someone to wait on you hand and foot without getting paid to do so.. maybe you dont realize that nothing in life is free. So tip your server AT LEAST 15%.

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]]> By: teleburst http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-1/#comment-3057542 teleburst Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:55:26 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3057542 "Empty class". Pretty good self-description there, Desouza. “Empty class”. Pretty good self-description there, Desouza.

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]]> By: Desouza http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-1/#comment-3057362 Desouza Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:08:00 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3057362 it is only stingy if you are a poor yet entitled waiter or waitress who could not do something worthwhile with their life so you put on a fake smile for people you don't really care about unless they voluntarily pay your wage for the job you chose. How about you do a damn good job because it is your job, rather than fake your sincerity until somebody gives you a reason to nut in their food. People who give this bullshit that waiters and waitresses work hard and deserve their tips forget that there are harder jobs out there that don't get tips. Stingy? Cheapskate? I am saving my money for something of value like... cigarettes and condoms. All entitled waiters and waitresses should just quit and let hardworking people who are grateful for a job to replace them. HA! Hard work? Try landscaping.20% this ain't the Ritz, if I eat at a Claim Jumper's they should be happy with anything I have to give even if its a few pennies at the bottom of my empty class. it is only stingy if you are a poor yet entitled waiter or waitress who could not do something worthwhile with their life so you put on a fake smile for people you don’t really care about unless they voluntarily pay your wage for the job you chose. How about you do a damn good job because it is your job, rather than fake your sincerity until somebody gives you a reason to nut in their food. People who give this bullshit that waiters and waitresses work hard and deserve their tips forget that there are harder jobs out there that don’t get tips. Stingy? Cheapskate? I am saving my money for something of value like… cigarettes and condoms. All entitled waiters and waitresses should just quit and let hardworking people who are grateful for a job to replace them. HA! Hard work? Try landscaping.20% this ain’t the Ritz, if I eat at a Claim Jumper’s they should be happy with anything I have to give even if its a few pennies at the bottom of my empty class.

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]]> By: Michelle http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3048662 Michelle Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:48:08 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3048662 I don't believe in tipping AT ALL!!! Especially if I am doing the work or I receive poor service. Who decided on who to tip and who not to tip, why tip your doctor he did the surgery or the mechanic, he changed your brakes, or better yet the cashier, she rang your order. What is the difference of tipping a delivery guy, who had no hand in preparing your food or the line cook at McDonalds. Unless I receive service beyond common standards, I won't tip and I never will!!! I don’t believe in tipping AT ALL!!! Especially if I am doing the work or I receive poor service. Who decided on who to tip and who not to tip, why tip your doctor he did the surgery or the mechanic, he changed your brakes, or better yet the cashier, she rang your order. What is the difference of tipping a delivery guy, who had no hand in preparing your food or the line cook at McDonalds. Unless I receive service beyond common standards, I won’t tip and I never will!!!

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]]> By: Ezequiel Whitenton http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/comment-page-9/#comment-3042212 Ezequiel Whitenton Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:36:41 +0000 http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2006/10/12/basic-tips-on-tipping-how-much-and-to-whom/#comment-3042212 I appreciate your work, appreciate it for all the interesting articles. I appreciate your work, appreciate it for all the interesting articles.

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