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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/01/05/personal-finance-puzzlers-the-check-is-in-the-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-90630</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bank with an online only bank and I mail in deposits. One time I mailed in a 250 deposit and I actualy forgot about it. 2.5 months later the deposit shows up on my bank recon. i could not even remember where I got the money for about half a day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bank with an online only bank and I mail in deposits. One time I mailed in a 250 deposit and I actualy forgot about it. 2.5 months later the deposit shows up on my bank recon. i could not even remember where I got the money for about half a day</p>
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		<title>By: BxCapricorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>BxCapricorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happened to me once as well, and thank goodness I check my credit card and checking account electronically every few days. It takes seconds and it has ensured that I have a clean credit rating, all these years. Like the first few responders said, electronic transfers are the way to go and will be the only way, one day. Another great reason to have money for emergencies, in an account that can wire transfer anywhere in a day or two. AND YOU DID SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT HAS SAVED MY BUTT MANY TIMES...YOU CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE TO GET IT ON RECORD, before the due date elapsed. Great life lesson that I hope many others learn and thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happened to me once as well, and thank goodness I check my credit card and checking account electronically every few days. It takes seconds and it has ensured that I have a clean credit rating, all these years. Like the first few responders said, electronic transfers are the way to go and will be the only way, one day. Another great reason to have money for emergencies, in an account that can wire transfer anywhere in a day or two. AND YOU DID SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT HAS SAVED MY BUTT MANY TIMES&#8230;YOU CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE TO GET IT ON RECORD, before the due date elapsed. Great life lesson that I hope many others learn and thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: College Age Finance &#187; links for 2007-01-06</title>
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		<dc:creator>College Age Finance &#187; links for 2007-01-06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever possible, if making electronic payments for bills, initiate the payment using the website of the entity you are making the payment to.  If you use your bank&#039;s online bill pay, often times all that does is tell the bank to SNAIL MAIL a check from your account to the designated recipient.

I had an auto payment check initiated using my bank&#039;s online bill pay get lost in the mail.  Luckily, I keep on top of these things.  The auto-loan company didn&#039;t care about my bank losing the check in the mail - they did allow me to initiate a 1-time phone payment to cover the bill.  Eventually, the check showed up and I had a double payment on record - what a nightmare.  If you initiate via the site of the company you&#039;re paying, you have more recourse and can avoid double payments, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever possible, if making electronic payments for bills, initiate the payment using the website of the entity you are making the payment to.  If you use your bank&#8217;s online bill pay, often times all that does is tell the bank to SNAIL MAIL a check from your account to the designated recipient.</p>
<p>I had an auto payment check initiated using my bank&#8217;s online bill pay get lost in the mail.  Luckily, I keep on top of these things.  The auto-loan company didn&#8217;t care about my bank losing the check in the mail &#8211; they did allow me to initiate a 1-time phone payment to cover the bill.  Eventually, the check showed up and I had a double payment on record &#8211; what a nightmare.  If you initiate via the site of the company you&#8217;re paying, you have more recourse and can avoid double payments, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: dimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>dimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have similar problems with personal checks, in that they aren&#039;t negotiated promptly, and since we don&#039;t keep a register, it&#039;s hard to know if everything has cleared.  Luckily I don&#039;t use many checks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have similar problems with personal checks, in that they aren&#8217;t negotiated promptly, and since we don&#8217;t keep a register, it&#8217;s hard to know if everything has cleared.  Luckily I don&#8217;t use many checks.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sending stuff certified mail costs about $3.50. You get a receipt you mailed it and to whom and where and what day. You also get a receipt signed by the person who received it. They can&#039;t refute that. I LOVE certified mail...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sending stuff certified mail costs about $3.50. You get a receipt you mailed it and to whom and where and what day. You also get a receipt signed by the person who received it. They can&#8217;t refute that. I LOVE certified mail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gaming Your Credit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaming Your Credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s crazy, but crazy stuff like that happens every once in a while with the post office.  The only check that I have to mail currently is my car payment, and I know that it usually takes just 3-4 days to get to the finance company and show up posted on my bank account.  That makes it easy to see when it&#039;s late.

I am curious what would have happened if you hadn&#039;t made that extra payment and just let the check get there when it got there.  It would have (barely!) not been 30 days late, so they couldn&#039;t have reported it on your credit report.  Also, isn&#039;t it the law that a company has to accept a payment based on its postmarked date, not the date it&#039;s actually received?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s crazy, but crazy stuff like that happens every once in a while with the post office.  The only check that I have to mail currently is my car payment, and I know that it usually takes just 3-4 days to get to the finance company and show up posted on my bank account.  That makes it easy to see when it&#8217;s late.</p>
<p>I am curious what would have happened if you hadn&#8217;t made that extra payment and just let the check get there when it got there.  It would have (barely!) not been 30 days late, so they couldn&#8217;t have reported it on your credit report.  Also, isn&#8217;t it the law that a company has to accept a payment based on its postmarked date, not the date it&#8217;s actually received?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is why electronic transfers are the way to go when paying bills.&quot;

Yep. I&#039;ve been doing that for almost a year, and it&#039;s really helped me get control of my bills &amp; avoid late fees. I don&#039;t have anything on auto-debit; that way lies complacency. But all of my bills are listed in one spot on my credit union website, I can view the amount due (an average guess for some bills, a number pulled from electronic invoicing on others), the due date, and the most recent payments, all on one web page. I get e-mail notices if I haven&#039;t submitted a payment when the due date is approaching. And nothing is *ever* late ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is why electronic transfers are the way to go when paying bills.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep. I&#8217;ve been doing that for almost a year, and it&#8217;s really helped me get control of my bills &amp; avoid late fees. I don&#8217;t have anything on auto-debit; that way lies complacency. But all of my bills are listed in one spot on my credit union website, I can view the amount due (an average guess for some bills, a number pulled from electronic invoicing on others), the due date, and the most recent payments, all on one web page. I get e-mail notices if I haven&#8217;t submitted a payment when the due date is approaching. And nothing is *ever* late &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are in Portland.  Cool, I&#039;m in Vancouver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are in Portland.  Cool, I&#8217;m in Vancouver.</p>
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		<title>By: Lapis_lazuli615</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lapis_lazuli615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a car payment with GMAC. Their website does not offer online payments, but has been saying for the last 2.5 years that it&#039;s &quot;coming soon&quot;.

Last year about October, we mailed a payment. Payments are due on the 15th of each month. They called us at the beginning of November asking for a payment or it would show on our credit record. So we sent another one. 
A couple of weeks later we got another call, still no payment. So we made one over the phone using the $8 outsourced check processing option. (The only option other than having the amount taken out of our checking account automatically. Husband and I have proven time and again that this is BAD NEWS for us.)

About 2 weeks later, we get another call that our November payment is late. Huh? There are 2 checks floating out there in lala land, plus a pay by phone! They still have not gotten either of the mailed checks. We made another $8-fee pay by phone.

About a week later, we get a notice from the post office that they had a mutilated check/envelope and it was destroyed. A photocopy was included. Well, there&#039;s one missing check. The other came through about the time they called us to ask for our late December payment. It was NOT applied towards our January payment. It was over 60 days after we had mailed the original.

At this point, we wait for the payment to be almost a month late, GMAC to call us, and we make the payment by phone. This costs us $8 for the processing fee and $16 for the late fees, but I refuse to trust GMAC *or* the postal system with this payment anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a car payment with GMAC. Their website does not offer online payments, but has been saying for the last 2.5 years that it&#8217;s &#8220;coming soon&#8221;.</p>
<p>Last year about October, we mailed a payment. Payments are due on the 15th of each month. They called us at the beginning of November asking for a payment or it would show on our credit record. So we sent another one.<br />
A couple of weeks later we got another call, still no payment. So we made one over the phone using the $8 outsourced check processing option. (The only option other than having the amount taken out of our checking account automatically. Husband and I have proven time and again that this is BAD NEWS for us.)</p>
<p>About 2 weeks later, we get another call that our November payment is late. Huh? There are 2 checks floating out there in lala land, plus a pay by phone! They still have not gotten either of the mailed checks. We made another $8-fee pay by phone.</p>
<p>About a week later, we get a notice from the post office that they had a mutilated check/envelope and it was destroyed. A photocopy was included. Well, there&#8217;s one missing check. The other came through about the time they called us to ask for our late December payment. It was NOT applied towards our January payment. It was over 60 days after we had mailed the original.</p>
<p>At this point, we wait for the payment to be almost a month late, GMAC to call us, and we make the payment by phone. This costs us $8 for the processing fee and $16 for the late fees, but I refuse to trust GMAC *or* the postal system with this payment anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use the service through the bank where they will send the checks.  We have had a couple times where we sent the amount for the mortgage to the wrong bill and had to scramble to make sure the mortgage got paid on time.

But, for your situation, I probably would have canceled the original check when you decided to do a different payment option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use the service through the bank where they will send the checks.  We have had a couple times where we sent the amount for the mortgage to the wrong bill and had to scramble to make sure the mortgage got paid on time.</p>
<p>But, for your situation, I probably would have canceled the original check when you decided to do a different payment option.</p>
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		<title>By: English Major</title>
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		<dc:creator>English Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know you were in Portland!  I love and miss Portland.

Also, that check situation is a very curious one indeed.  I doubt I would have handled it so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know you were in Portland!  I love and miss Portland.</p>
<p>Also, that check situation is a very curious one indeed.  I doubt I would have handled it so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Duff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Duff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Quicken to manage my finances. My mortgage is auto drafted each month, and the rest of my bills require me to sign on to the respective websites and make an online payment. 

I update Quicken daily to keep track of what has cleared as well as sign on to my online banking and see pending transactions. 

One other thing I use is a matrix in Excel that maps my income and expenses on a bi-weekly basis (yes, I&#039;m still living paycheck to paycheck). This allows me to see what bills need to be paid when, and out of which check. I&#039;m also building an emergency fund so I can track how much should be deposited into my savings account for the emergency fund I&#039;m building. Even when I&#039;m not paycheck to paycheck, a $0 budget still works wonderfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Quicken to manage my finances. My mortgage is auto drafted each month, and the rest of my bills require me to sign on to the respective websites and make an online payment. </p>
<p>I update Quicken daily to keep track of what has cleared as well as sign on to my online banking and see pending transactions. </p>
<p>One other thing I use is a matrix in Excel that maps my income and expenses on a bi-weekly basis (yes, I&#8217;m still living paycheck to paycheck). This allows me to see what bills need to be paid when, and out of which check. I&#8217;m also building an emergency fund so I can track how much should be deposited into my savings account for the emergency fund I&#8217;m building. Even when I&#8217;m not paycheck to paycheck, a $0 budget still works wonderfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why electronic transfers are the way to go when paying bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why electronic transfers are the way to go when paying bills.</p>
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