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	<title>Comments on: Ask the Readers: How Will My Family&#8217;s Credit History Affect My Own?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Accountability</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/01/22/ask-the-readers-how-will-my-familys-credit-history-affect-me/#comment-130306</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Accountability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of your commenters cleared up my question, which was how old is the anonymous gal's mother that she can't sign for the mortgage herself. I am also in the US and was actually surprised to discover that people 65 years and old regularly get 30 year mortgages. Kind of blew my mind, but I guess the mortgage company doesn't care so long as they are getting their money.  Good luck on that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of your commenters cleared up my question, which was how old is the anonymous gal&#8217;s mother that she can&#8217;t sign for the mortgage herself. I am also in the US and was actually surprised to discover that people 65 years and old regularly get 30 year mortgages. Kind of blew my mind, but I guess the mortgage company doesn&#8217;t care so long as they are getting their money.  Good luck on that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm guessing that JD's anonymous reader is from the UK like me. 

Its my understanding that since she has signed the mortgage with her mother, any default or late payment on that mortgage will adversely affect her credit rating. 

Additionally, I think that if she is living at the same address as someone with the same surname as her, any adverse credit they have may be held against her unless she puts a letter of financial disassociation on file with the credit agencies, basically saying that she has nothing to do with them from a financial point of view. In this case she would be unable to do that with her mother, but could do so if relevant with her father.

For advice, I suggest she contact her local Citizens Advice Bureau which will be able to give her free advice - they'll be able to confirm or deny what I have stated above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing that JD&#8217;s anonymous reader is from the UK like me. </p>
<p>Its my understanding that since she has signed the mortgage with her mother, any default or late payment on that mortgage will adversely affect her credit rating. </p>
<p>Additionally, I think that if she is living at the same address as someone with the same surname as her, any adverse credit they have may be held against her unless she puts a letter of financial disassociation on file with the credit agencies, basically saying that she has nothing to do with them from a financial point of view. In this case she would be unable to do that with her mother, but could do so if relevant with her father.</p>
<p>For advice, I suggest she contact her local Citizens Advice Bureau which will be able to give her free advice - they&#8217;ll be able to confirm or deny what I have stated above.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heres another good link on age discrimination:  http://realtytimes.com/rtcpages/20060707_agediscrim.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres another good link on age discrimination:  <a href="http://realtytimes.com/rtcpages/20060707_agediscrim.htm" rel="nofollow">http://realtytimes.com/rtcpages/20060707_agediscrim.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like your in the UK, so the laws may be different there than in the US so what I have to say may not apply to you.

In the US it is ILLEGAL to discriminate against anyone in any lending situation on the basis of age (except for minors) and many other factors under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA).  If there is a similar law on the books in the UK, you might have a solid lawsuit.  So, sue the bank and your money problems are solved!

FTC's website:  http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/homes/mortgdis.htm

But no, it seems the only thing that could endanger you is the mortgage you cosigned with your mom for.  Keep track of that and you should be fine.  Unless you inherited there lack of financial skills, in which case you may want to get some assistance.  (The preceding was not intended to be a slam, just a bit of a warning.  Please don't misinterpret my good intentions!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like your in the UK, so the laws may be different there than in the US so what I have to say may not apply to you.</p>
<p>In the US it is ILLEGAL to discriminate against anyone in any lending situation on the basis of age (except for minors) and many other factors under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA).  If there is a similar law on the books in the UK, you might have a solid lawsuit.  So, sue the bank and your money problems are solved!</p>
<p>FTC&#8217;s website:  <a href="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/homes/mortgdis.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/homes/mortgdis.htm</a></p>
<p>But no, it seems the only thing that could endanger you is the mortgage you cosigned with your mom for.  Keep track of that and you should be fine.  Unless you inherited there lack of financial skills, in which case you may want to get some assistance.  (The preceding was not intended to be a slam, just a bit of a warning.  Please don&#8217;t misinterpret my good intentions!)</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aimee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a cosigner it will only effect you if she doesn't pay the mortgage on time.

I hate to say it because I think family does have to come first... but I feel that Suze Orman is 100% right when she says NEVER co-sign for anyone, no matter what. It just saves everyone from hurt feelings and other consequences that can come if things do go wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a cosigner it will only effect you if she doesn&#8217;t pay the mortgage on time.</p>
<p>I hate to say it because I think family does have to come first&#8230; but I feel that Suze Orman is 100% right when she says NEVER co-sign for anyone, no matter what. It just saves everyone from hurt feelings and other consequences that can come if things do go wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I know a woman whose mother has terrible credit and also has the same name. You’d think that credit agencies would be able to differentiate, but somehow, the bad stuff keeps coming up.&lt;/i&gt;

Here's a first: your comments actually have &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt; worried. My wife, Kris, has better credit than I do because she maintains some open credit card accounts. However recently we've been receiving collection agency calls for a "Kristina Roth". My wife kept her last name, so they're obviously calling for somebody else. Only they don't believe us when we say there's no such person here (and we know it's not Kris because the woman they want lives on the other side of Portland). I'm going to have her run her free credit reports tonight...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I know a woman whose mother has terrible credit and also has the same name. You’d think that credit agencies would be able to differentiate, but somehow, the bad stuff keeps coming up.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a first: your comments actually have <i>me</i> worried. My wife, Kris, has better credit than I do because she maintains some open credit card accounts. However recently we&#8217;ve been receiving collection agency calls for a &#8220;Kristina Roth&#8221;. My wife kept her last name, so they&#8217;re obviously calling for somebody else. Only they don&#8217;t believe us when we say there&#8217;s no such person here (and we know it&#8217;s not Kris because the woman they want lives on the other side of Portland). I&#8217;m going to have her run her free credit reports tonight&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Family members credit scores do not affect your credit score unless they mix you up with another family member or you cosign one of their loans. If you cosign credit for them that creditor will be reporting the debt to the credit agencies in your name as well. So if you co-sign a child's student loan for college the loan (and any missed payments) shows up on both credit reports.

Otherwise family credit has nothing to do with your credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Family members credit scores do not affect your credit score unless they mix you up with another family member or you cosign one of their loans. If you cosign credit for them that creditor will be reporting the debt to the credit agencies in your name as well. So if you co-sign a child&#8217;s student loan for college the loan (and any missed payments) shows up on both credit reports.</p>
<p>Otherwise family credit has nothing to do with your credit.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous..</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I co-signed to help my mom consolidate all her credit card bills and two mortgages into one big loan last year.  Her credit wasn't great, and she needed me to co-sign in order to get a good rate. 

I have excellent credit, so I was hesitant to help her at first, but what could I do?  My mother supported me (even in adulthood), so I couldn't say no.

I understand the consequences, that's why I have a credit monitor that makes sure that my mother is paying her mortgage (on time) monthly.  So far so good.  

When it's time for me to get a house of my own (hopefully in a couple of years), I'll ask my mom to refinance again and put the loan back on her name alone (if all goes well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I co-signed to help my mom consolidate all her credit card bills and two mortgages into one big loan last year.  Her credit wasn&#8217;t great, and she needed me to co-sign in order to get a good rate. </p>
<p>I have excellent credit, so I was hesitant to help her at first, but what could I do?  My mother supported me (even in adulthood), so I couldn&#8217;t say no.</p>
<p>I understand the consequences, that&#8217;s why I have a credit monitor that makes sure that my mother is paying her mortgage (on time) monthly.  So far so good.  </p>
<p>When it&#8217;s time for me to get a house of my own (hopefully in a couple of years), I&#8217;ll ask my mom to refinance again and put the loan back on her name alone (if all goes well).</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - I know a woman whose mother has terrible credit and also has the same name. You'd think that credit agencies would be able to differentiate, but somehow, the bad stuff keeps coming up on this woman's credit report even though it's not her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi - I know a woman whose mother has terrible credit and also has the same name. You&#8217;d think that credit agencies would be able to differentiate, but somehow, the bad stuff keeps coming up on this woman&#8217;s credit report even though it&#8217;s not her.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one else's credit can affect yours unless you co-signed on a loan with them. This includes parents' mistakes with credit--unless they fraudulently used your name, their credit can't damage yours. 

I'd hesitate, however, before being a cosigner on a mortgage or loan for ANYONE, even my mother. If the BANK thinks she's not a good risk, why should I think differently? In all likelihood, being a cosigner on his mom's mortgage will end up damaging his credit because she or he or both of them won't be able to pay the bills. But unless he signs a contract agreeing to be responsible for something in his mom's name--there will be no damage to his credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one else&#8217;s credit can affect yours unless you co-signed on a loan with them. This includes parents&#8217; mistakes with credit&#8211;unless they fraudulently used your name, their credit can&#8217;t damage yours. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d hesitate, however, before being a cosigner on a mortgage or loan for ANYONE, even my mother. If the BANK thinks she&#8217;s not a good risk, why should I think differently? In all likelihood, being a cosigner on his mom&#8217;s mortgage will end up damaging his credit because she or he or both of them won&#8217;t be able to pay the bills. But unless he signs a contract agreeing to be responsible for something in his mom&#8217;s name&#8211;there will be no damage to his credit.</p>
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		<title>By: dimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>dimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems you'd be more likely to be hurt by your family members stealing your identity than just by them having bad credit for its own sake.  A friend of mine's dad wrecked his own credit and then decided to "borrow" my friend's SSN (like the commenter above said, same name, different suffix) in order to "fix" things, but instead he made everything worse, then had a massive heart attack and died.  So my friend is dealing with settling his father's estate only to find out a bunch of these debts were on HIS credit report.  Big mess, and little recourse since his father was dead.  Eventually it worked out, but my friend had a couple of very busy summers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems you&#8217;d be more likely to be hurt by your family members stealing your identity than just by them having bad credit for its own sake.  A friend of mine&#8217;s dad wrecked his own credit and then decided to &#8220;borrow&#8221; my friend&#8217;s SSN (like the commenter above said, same name, different suffix) in order to &#8220;fix&#8221; things, but instead he made everything worse, then had a massive heart attack and died.  So my friend is dealing with settling his father&#8217;s estate only to find out a bunch of these debts were on HIS credit report.  Big mess, and little recourse since his father was dead.  Eventually it worked out, but my friend had a couple of very busy summers.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Muderick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Muderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A close friend is Joe Blow, III and his father is Joe Blow, jr.  When he came of age and tried to get credit he couldn't.  After a few years he wisened up and ordered his credit report.  On it were outstanding debts incurred by his father.  Experian had mixed the two of them together in their files.  I remember he called to correct the information and they told him he'd need a letter from his father stating that the debts were in fact his own.  Didn't happen since they weren't speaking at that time.  For a variety of reasons he just waited it out...about 5 years for them to fall off the edge of his credit report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A close friend is Joe Blow, III and his father is Joe Blow, jr.  When he came of age and tried to get credit he couldn&#8217;t.  After a few years he wisened up and ordered his credit report.  On it were outstanding debts incurred by his father.  Experian had mixed the two of them together in their files.  I remember he called to correct the information and they told him he&#8217;d need a letter from his father stating that the debts were in fact his own.  Didn&#8217;t happen since they weren&#8217;t speaking at that time.  For a variety of reasons he just waited it out&#8230;about 5 years for them to fall off the edge of his credit report.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen the negative effects of being a co-signer in the past. When my wife was in college she was a on one of her parent's credit cards in order build a little credit. Nothing wrong with that at all, and it is a common practice.

But, my wife never actually used the card herself so she had no idea what type of balance was on it, what payments were made, etc. Well, when we were applying for our mortgage we were shocked to see my wife's score and debt/credit ratio so out of the ordinary. Apparently her mom had essentially maxed out that card (over $10k). 

We were faced with being unable to get the mortgage we wanted without this debt being eliminated. So we spent a bunch of time jumping through hoops trying to get her parents to pay off that debt. If she was removed from the card altogether it would wipe a long credit history as well so we were in a tough spot.

To make a long story short, thankfully her parents were in a position they could pay it off, but our lender would not give us the interest rate or down payment agreement we had initially gone for without that debt being eliminated.

It turned out to be a hassle and a bit of a shock, but at least it worked out. Unfortunately for many others in similar situations I don't think it has such a happy ending. 

I have another experience that is very similar but it involves business partners and unsecured business debt with personal guarantees and co-signers. I will spare you the ugliness of that ordeal at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen the negative effects of being a co-signer in the past. When my wife was in college she was a on one of her parent&#8217;s credit cards in order build a little credit. Nothing wrong with that at all, and it is a common practice.</p>
<p>But, my wife never actually used the card herself so she had no idea what type of balance was on it, what payments were made, etc. Well, when we were applying for our mortgage we were shocked to see my wife&#8217;s score and debt/credit ratio so out of the ordinary. Apparently her mom had essentially maxed out that card (over $10k). </p>
<p>We were faced with being unable to get the mortgage we wanted without this debt being eliminated. So we spent a bunch of time jumping through hoops trying to get her parents to pay off that debt. If she was removed from the card altogether it would wipe a long credit history as well so we were in a tough spot.</p>
<p>To make a long story short, thankfully her parents were in a position they could pay it off, but our lender would not give us the interest rate or down payment agreement we had initially gone for without that debt being eliminated.</p>
<p>It turned out to be a hassle and a bit of a shock, but at least it worked out. Unfortunately for many others in similar situations I don&#8217;t think it has such a happy ending. </p>
<p>I have another experience that is very similar but it involves business partners and unsecured business debt with personal guarantees and co-signers. I will spare you the ugliness of that ordeal at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my parents co-sign my college loans so I could get lower interest rates while I was still attending (the rates on the loans without them is extremely high, ugg).  Once I started putting them on my loans, I noticed an increase in my score - since they have pretty good credit.  It seems that I am in the opposite situation as the reader, but did notice a change in my score once they were added.

I am hoping my score doesn't drop when I consolidate and remove their names as co-signers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my parents co-sign my college loans so I could get lower interest rates while I was still attending (the rates on the loans without them is extremely high, ugg).  Once I started putting them on my loans, I noticed an increase in my score - since they have pretty good credit.  It seems that I am in the opposite situation as the reader, but did notice a change in my score once they were added.</p>
<p>I am hoping my score doesn&#8217;t drop when I consolidate and remove their names as co-signers.</p>
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