Tina forwarded a USA Today article that manages to be simultaneously informative and surreal. The Hip-Hop Summit Action Network has begun its seven-city tour to “teach young minorities how to handle their financial lives”.
Bun B, who started duo UGK in 1987 with his friend Pimp C (before Pimp C went to jail and was later released), is part of a nationwide tour of hip-hop recording artists who are using their fame to draw young African-American and Hispanic fans to hear tales of the financial mistakes they’ve made and the lessons they’ve learned.
Between swapping stories about blowing money, the artists gave financial advice to a packed auditorium at Texas Southern University last weekend.
Despite the difference in tone and sometimes language, their advice was what you’d get from Merrill Lynch. Just more colorful.
“I took my homeboys to the club, buyin’ bottles, got the rims — you know what I mean,” said Slim Thug, 26, a Houston rapper whose prized possessions include a $460,000 Rolls-Royce Phantom. “Then I couldn’t be paying the rent! Homeboys can’t help you now.”
They’ve learned, they say, some indispensable lessons.
Some of the advice given:
- From LeToya Luckett, a former member of Destiny’s Child: “Pay your tithe to whomever it may be to. Don’t worry about what that preacher’s going to do with that money. Is he gonna buy a new helicopter or a new car? Don’t worry about that. Get off your butt and do what God sent you here to do.”
- Television personality Free: “Keep your interest rates as low as possible. If you’re paying 18% or 25%, they’ve got you.”
- Solange Knowles, Beyoncé’s younger sister: “Write down what you really spend. I didn’t know what I really spent. But now I’m a new mother, so I set up a college fund for my son. When I get a check, it’s not about shopping or going out to dinner…I’ve got priorities!”
Chingo Bling, a Mexican-American rapper from Houston: “I spent money to impress other people, like buying rims and things like that. You can indulge some, but I invested in myself, too, in my record label, in my brand. At the end of the day, I want to still be standing, to still be in business.”- Singer Monica: “My mistake was I used [credit cards] and it felt like I was getting a gift. It had no sense of reality. You should really have only one, and it’s probably best not to keep it in your wallet. But don’t do what I did: Remember the numbers and the little SID number on the back, so you could charge anyway!”
- Palestinian-born Candadian rapper Belly: “When I got my first check, I threw it away, on clothes and shoes and jewelry — crazy, material things. Once I did that, I thought: I’ll never do that again. It’s not about making money. It’s about keeping money.“
- Rapper Slim Thug: “I got a big house, 7,000 square feet, and I be driving around town in the big trucks and you know, all that. And I had to wake up and say: What are you doing? What you need this big house for? I gotta check mysef on this. I got two kids and I can’t rap forever. You not be buying my CDs when I’m 40, you know what I mean? When you do get your bread, you gotta keep your bread, you know what I mean?“
Although I’m too old to comprehend the world of hip-hop, I appreciate the work these people are doing. It’s important to teach sound personal finance to young adults. If this works, I’m all for it. I think it benefits the community each time another person learns how to manage her money.
In between tales of financial success and failure from the hip-hop artists, pros from Chrysler Financial, the corporate partner in the Hip-Hop Summit, slip in little lessons about finances, such as the definition of net worth, the difference between a stock and a bond and the value of a 401(k) plan.
[...]
At the summit, Chavis called on the artists one by one, but every now and then, he told the audience to “turn to page 8″ in their workbook or to a chart on another page to see how long it takes to pay off a high-interest-rate credit card. The crowd obeyed.
Chingo Bling, 27, a Mexican-American rapper from Houston who’s known as the “ghetto cowboy,” said he thinks young people can learn from what he described as “not mistakes, but lessons.” One of them: “You can’t learn about money until you’ve lost money.”
If only there had been a New Wave Summit Action Network when I was young! I would have taken advice from A Flock of Seagulls or Duran Duran. Do you think Boy George could have taught my generation about the proper use of credit?

[USA Today: Need advice on finances? Ask a hip-hop artist]
This article is about Basics, News Friday, 16th March 2007 (by J.D. Roth)


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Despite the difference in tone and sometimes language, their advice was what you’d get from Merrill Lynch. Just more colorful.
March 16th, 2007 at 7:34 am
JD-
Just look at the picture of Flock of Seagulls. The hair screams “I have an IRA… and I contribute regularly.” I would take them seriously.
March 16th, 2007 at 7:38 am
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March 16th, 2007 at 7:53 am
Brett totally beat me to it!
Great post - sage financial advice with a twist of humor. Love it.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:25 am
it’s amazing how much money some of those hip hop artists make.. especially the ones who have their own independent record label and get the majority of profits from their record sales
looking at their lifestyle (with the houses, rims, cars).. it makes you wonder how much money they are investing or really holding on to? at the end of the day it is a business.. and they have to be smart about the decisions they make
March 16th, 2007 at 8:38 am
As a hip hop fan, I’m really glad to see something like this being held. Too many kids who listen to hip hop get caught up in the lifestyle and the image some artists present without seeing the consequences.
Believe it or not, I think fiscal responsibility is actually on the rise in the hip hop community. Many of the most popular rappers out today have come from small start up labels rather than big companies - people who started out selling records out of the trunks of their cars. I think that when you start out that way - day in and day out, dollar by dollar - it makes you more likely to be smart about where your money goes. In the last couple of years I’ve noticed more and more artists talking about why they’ve left the “bling bling” lifestyle behind and started saving for the future, as well as finding ways to make a living that aren’t dependent on their music careers. For instance, Paul Wall (out of same scene in Houston as Slim Thug) owns a jewelry business specializing in custom “grills”. Trina (a female rapper out of Miami) is a real estate agent in her off time, selling big ticket homes to the contacts she has made in the music industry. They may be exceptions to the rule, but I figure it’s a step in the right direction.
March 16th, 2007 at 8:48 am
I think you could associate the spending on cars, rims, houses, and the “club” as a marketing cost. Something tells me that “PrudentMC” isn’t going to move a lot of records.
A lot of hip hop is fantasy, so it is nice to see the artist pulling back the veil on consumption.
Great post J.D. (I started my day of with a smile).
March 16th, 2007 at 9:05 am
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five were just inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Superrappin’ was released in 1979.
You aren’t too old.
At any rate, I’m glad this tour is going on. Hopefully the attendees will get a lot out of it.
However, I find the idea that you shouldn’t care where your tithe is going ludicrous. If your spiritual adviser is going to spend the funds on a helicopter, then perhaps it is time to find a new faith community. (To be fair, my feelings about tithing are somewhat unorthodox.)
March 16th, 2007 at 10:00 am
“Pay your tithe to whomever it may be to. Don’t worry about what that preacher’s going to do with that money. Is he gonna buy a new helicopter or a new car? Don’t worry about that. Get off your butt and do what God sent you here to do.”
really? is the implication that god sent us here to pay tithes? why wouldn’t i worry about what someone else is going to do with my money?
March 16th, 2007 at 10:08 am
“From LeToya Luckett, a former member of Destiny’s Child: “Pay your tithe to whomever it may be to. Don’t worry about what that preacher’s going to do with that money. Is he gonna buy a new helicopter or a new car? Don’t worry about that. Get off your butt and do what God sent you here to do.” ”
I can’t say I agree with this one. God didn’t send you here to fund crooks. There is nothing wrong with donating, but investigate the charities before you donate.
March 16th, 2007 at 10:23 am
i’d rather pay tithes in other ways.. like giving money to my godchildren.. or trying to help out the people i grew up with (and society in general) any way i can
i come from a rather religious family.. and i went to catholic school my whole life.. but now that i’m grown.. i don’t even go to church anymore.. and i wouldn’t feel comfortable giving 10% to my parish.. my faith is my own personal relationship with God.. just my opinion..
March 16th, 2007 at 11:09 am
JD, do you mean to tell me that Cyndi Lauper *wasn’t* singing “Girls Just Want to Have Funds”?
March 16th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
I saw that article too and was going to blog on it, but you did a much better job than I would have! Way to go JD.
I don’t like hip-hop, but this article did improve my view of the hip-hop artists named.
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March 17th, 2007 at 1:07 am
looking at their lifestyle (with the houses, rims, cars).. it makes you wonder how much money they are investing or really holding on to?
They don’t, a good majority of rappers come from poor backgrounds, they come from the mindset that they need to spend today because tomorrow might not be here.
A lot of hip-hop is also self run, major labels didn’t start looking at it as a profitable way of making music until the mid 90’s and even then started to second guess themselves. Just like the skateboard and bmx industries, hip-hop is self run for the most part. The major players in it own their own albums, have family members make their beats and go on tour with close friends and family. Most bigger stars also have their own clothing line, clubs, line of watches, endores just about any product they can, all for more money.
March 17th, 2007 at 8:10 am
I pay my tithe to my emergency fund!
March 17th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Yep, tithe to yourself. At least make sure that’s one of them. I am not religious, but I would have to think God would want you to take care of yourself and not leave it to prayer.
March 18th, 2007 at 1:21 am
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March 20th, 2007 at 10:33 am
Investment Tips For Mims…
The UK may have a momentary mobile obsession with the Crazy Frog, but 25-year-old rapper Mims has stumbled upon a different recipe for cellular success in the States: Write a self-celebrating song, be embraced my a nation of ringtone junkies…….
January 6th, 2008 at 7:44 am
What I like about this article and similar ones that have chronicled the work of Russell Simmons and Mos Def is that the story confronts the stereotype that our conservative side has created about rap and rappers, hop and hoppers, on back to the time when it was called “negro music”. The strain of social consciousness that has always run through the music has often been denied by this predjudice. Now, with the advent of the internet and the opening up of cross-culturalism across the board and around the world, this type of experience is happening more and more. Although I do have to laugh when Dennis Hopper tells me about saving my money on tv.