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	<title>Comments on: The Get Rich Slowly Budget Workbook (Version 2.0)</title>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-3318353</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is taken care of in the version I have.

A notes tab has some annual caps like SS cap and 401(k) cap.

Also the retirement section is 2 tabs - data and line chart.

I recalculated contribution to savings while in retirement and factored mandatory IRA distributions to start diminish IRA balances, etc.</description>
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<p>A notes tab has some annual caps like SS cap and 401(k) cap.</p>
<p>Also the retirement section is 2 tabs &#8211; data and line chart.</p>
<p>I recalculated contribution to savings while in retirement and factored mandatory IRA distributions to start diminish IRA balances, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-3318079</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be aware that Social Security deduction from gross income is not adjusted for the wage base / maximum contributions.  You&#039;ll need to fix this manually.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-3315963</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I invested some time to modify the GRS 2.0 and willing to get it back in Stephen&#039;s hands if you like:

1. New tab: Paychecks - holds yours and spouses paychecks and a summary line for after tax income
2. Budget - combined yours and spouses since I felt the division of bill paying threw off the reality of budgeting hers and mine.   This way it&#039;s one budget based on combined income from paycheck tab.
3. Mock taxes - added a 1040, Sched A, Sched D, Sched E tab that can be configured to read budget/paycheck data and approximate your tax burden and plant that back into the budget sheet as a refund or payment obligation post tax.
4. Actuals tab - added one for paycheck data to come in with a new column for each paycheck if you care to enter your paystub data.  This way, true state and federal tax rates (as % of salary) can be obtained for the paycheck tab and as well, true cost of pre-tax health/dental.  Major benefit is a change of job - has a column for accrued if you get a final paystub from employer A and move to Employer B you can put all of A in one column and continue B in other columns.  Also flows excess Social Security back to Mock taxes tab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I invested some time to modify the GRS 2.0 and willing to get it back in Stephen&#8217;s hands if you like:</p>
<p>1. New tab: Paychecks &#8211; holds yours and spouses paychecks and a summary line for after tax income<br />
2. Budget &#8211; combined yours and spouses since I felt the division of bill paying threw off the reality of budgeting hers and mine.   This way it&#8217;s one budget based on combined income from paycheck tab.<br />
3. Mock taxes &#8211; added a 1040, Sched A, Sched D, Sched E tab that can be configured to read budget/paycheck data and approximate your tax burden and plant that back into the budget sheet as a refund or payment obligation post tax.<br />
4. Actuals tab &#8211; added one for paycheck data to come in with a new column for each paycheck if you care to enter your paystub data.  This way, true state and federal tax rates (as % of salary) can be obtained for the paycheck tab and as well, true cost of pre-tax health/dental.  Major benefit is a change of job &#8211; has a column for accrued if you get a final paystub from employer A and move to Employer B you can put all of A in one column and continue B in other columns.  Also flows excess Social Security back to Mock taxes tab.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 5 years ago, I created my first &quot;real&quot; budget, due to a second marriage, one which came with debt. 2 years ago, I managed to pay off the last of our debt, and only had the mortgage remaining. as someone pointed out above, things do pop up. my initial goal of paying off the mortgage by 2011 has been pushed back to 2014, due to needing a second car, and then having to replace the first car. the final payment on those will be in 2 months, and I can go back to seriously crunching the mortgage down. I am going to download your spreadsheet, and will look it over, maybe get some new ideas from it, maybe not. the reason why I am commenting is that I know how time consuming it is to create a working spreadsheet, and wanted to say Thank You.

editing... I think your worksheet is broken? it downloaded, opened, but it seems to be only 1/2 of a page. this was from the second version link. the first one goes to page not found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 5 years ago, I created my first &#8220;real&#8221; budget, due to a second marriage, one which came with debt. 2 years ago, I managed to pay off the last of our debt, and only had the mortgage remaining. as someone pointed out above, things do pop up. my initial goal of paying off the mortgage by 2011 has been pushed back to 2014, due to needing a second car, and then having to replace the first car. the final payment on those will be in 2 months, and I can go back to seriously crunching the mortgage down. I am going to download your spreadsheet, and will look it over, maybe get some new ideas from it, maybe not. the reason why I am commenting is that I know how time consuming it is to create a working spreadsheet, and wanted to say Thank You.</p>
<p>editing&#8230; I think your worksheet is broken? it downloaded, opened, but it seems to be only 1/2 of a page. this was from the second version link. the first one goes to page not found.</p>
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		<title>By: 30 Days to a Better Man Day 16: Create a Budget &#124; The Art of Manliness</title>
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		<dc:creator>30 Days to a Better Man Day 16: Create a Budget &#124; The Art of Manliness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Get Rich Slowly Spreadsheet [...]</description>
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		<title>By: $2885.96 &#171; Ian MacBean</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-138502</link>
		<dc:creator>$2885.96 &#171; Ian MacBean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from any computer and even my phone. If this doesn&#8217;t strike your fancy, there&#8217;s another pretty good spreadsheet at Get Rich [...]</description>
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<p>[...] from any computer and even my phone. If this doesn&#8217;t strike your fancy, there&#8217;s another pretty good spreadsheet at Get Rich [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MZ</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-128527</link>
		<dc:creator>MZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad I can&#039;t download it by clicking on any of the links.

Edit: the way it&#039;s configured right now, one MUST right-click on &quot;second version&quot; link, choose &quot;Save Target As&quot; in (Internet Explorer, IE) or &quot;Save Link As&quot; (in Firefox).  If you are using Firefox, you&#039;re done.  If Internet Explorer is your browser, then you MUST change the extension of the file you&#039;re saving from &quot;htm&quot; to &quot;xls&quot; (no quotes).  Lots of work and I haven&#039;t even started budgeting!   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad I can&#8217;t download it by clicking on any of the links.</p>
<p>Edit: the way it&#8217;s configured right now, one MUST right-click on &#8220;second version&#8221; link, choose &#8220;Save Target As&#8221; in (Internet Explorer, IE) or &#8220;Save Link As&#8221; (in Firefox).  If you are using Firefox, you&#8217;re done.  If Internet Explorer is your browser, then you MUST change the extension of the file you&#8217;re saving from &#8220;htm&#8221; to &#8220;xls&#8221; (no quotes).  Lots of work and I haven&#8217;t even started budgeting!   <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JerichoHill</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-116228</link>
		<dc:creator>JerichoHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the love guys.  I&#039;m going to make version 3 over the next few months taking all your suggestions into account</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the love guys.  I&#8217;m going to make version 3 over the next few months taking all your suggestions into account</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-116222</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you right click the link and then choose save target as, choose your desktop, then you may need to change the extension from .htm to .xls for it to open correctly, at least that is what I did.

I hope to be able to use this, it is kind of scary to see the numbers for the whole year, I start thinking I am doing pretty good, then realize I am within a couple thousand of my total yearly and might should consider some more cutbacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you right click the link and then choose save target as, choose your desktop, then you may need to change the extension from .htm to .xls for it to open correctly, at least that is what I did.</p>
<p>I hope to be able to use this, it is kind of scary to see the numbers for the whole year, I start thinking I am doing pretty good, then realize I am within a couple thousand of my total yearly and might should consider some more cutbacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mosi</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-114482</link>
		<dc:creator>Mosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having trouble downloading the second version of the Get Rich Slowly budget.  When I click the link, I get transfered to another site w/ a bunch of letters and symbols.  Is there another place where I can have access to it?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having trouble downloading the second version of the Get Rich Slowly budget.  When I click the link, I get transfered to another site w/ a bunch of letters and symbols.  Is there another place where I can have access to it?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: satom</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-114324</link>
		<dc:creator>satom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.
This spreadsheet is just amazing. What a great job, it helped me understand a lot about budgeting and even pushed me towards going deep into details about taxes (analyzing things I had not considered before).

Popick, you have all my respect and admiration  for this excellent tool you provided to us. You did a great service to the community, and I hope that you&#039;ll get back all the serenity that this tool will give to all of its users!

Again, most sincerely, thanks an awful lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.<br />
This spreadsheet is just amazing. What a great job, it helped me understand a lot about budgeting and even pushed me towards going deep into details about taxes (analyzing things I had not considered before).</p>
<p>Popick, you have all my respect and admiration  for this excellent tool you provided to us. You did a great service to the community, and I hope that you&#8217;ll get back all the serenity that this tool will give to all of its users!</p>
<p>Again, most sincerely, thanks an awful lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Starting and Sticking to a Budget - Lending Club</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-108725</link>
		<dc:creator>Starting and Sticking to a Budget - Lending Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The best way to track these expenses and control spending is to create a budget. There are plenty of websites with information on how to start a budget, complete with spreadsheets to help you categorize your spending. Examples include Pear Budget and Get Rich Slowly. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Get Rich Slowly Has Great Advice! &#171; Bare Bones Living</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-91506</link>
		<dc:creator>Get Rich Slowly Has Great Advice! &#171; Bare Bones Living</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ever-evolving Get Rich Slowly budget spreadsheet by Stephen [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Massive Personal Finance Resource List &#124; The Frugal Law Student</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-87709</link>
		<dc:creator>Massive Personal Finance Resource List &#124; The Frugal Law Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Get Rich Slowly Spreadsheet [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CatholicSphere &#187; Find time and money: Create a budget</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-84537</link>
		<dc:creator>CatholicSphere &#187; Find time and money: Create a budget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over at the Get Rich Slowly blog is an updated version of the &#8220;Get Rich Slowly Budget Workbook&#8220;. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-84453</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s great. i can easily get started with it. thank you very much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s great. i can easily get started with it. thank you very much</p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-84403</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great spreadsheet! I find it easy to read and get started. However, being in Canada, the assumptions embedded in many formulas don&#039;t work. I would prefer being able to enter the dollar amounts of the deductions on my paystubs rather than having my deductions assumed. Thanks for all your work and generosity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great spreadsheet! I find it easy to read and get started. However, being in Canada, the assumptions embedded in many formulas don&#8217;t work. I would prefer being able to enter the dollar amounts of the deductions on my paystubs rather than having my deductions assumed. Thanks for all your work and generosity!</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-04-21 &#187; mhinze.com</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/04/20/the-get-rich-slowly-budget-workbook-version-20/comment-page-1/#comment-84399</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-04-21 &#187; mhinze.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Get Rich Slowly Budget Workbook (Version 2.0) (tags: money finance budget) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the spreadsheet. It&#039;s confusing, but I think that is from me not understanding some budget things.

Which is why I like the spreadsheet, teaching me new stuff. :)

Please add the FSA section.</description>
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<p>Which is why I like the spreadsheet, teaching me new stuff. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Please add the FSA section.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Economist</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

If I could find a way to write monte carlo in excel, I would.  I can do it with SAS, SPSS, and Stata.  Good idea, and I will look at it.

If there is a category missing, like FSAs, just insert a row in the appropriate area, and copy and use the format.  Confirm the subtotal that pulls from that section.

I will put an FSA/Other Pretax into the next version.  That&#039;s a good idea.

Nathan,  
You&#039;re right that there are other post-tax savings...Id add them to the savings section by inserting rows and then making sure the subtotals are pulling in the new rows.  I would like to note that any leftover funding goes into the same 5% high yield account, similiar to the yearly savings, car savings, and other short-term (less than 5 years) savings...5% high yield interest bearing accounts that are very liquid.

Mama&#039;s Money
My suggestion would be to circumvent the paycheck stub calculator and enter your weekly net pay where it would normally be calculated...should work from there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>If I could find a way to write monte carlo in excel, I would.  I can do it with SAS, SPSS, and Stata.  Good idea, and I will look at it.</p>
<p>If there is a category missing, like FSAs, just insert a row in the appropriate area, and copy and use the format.  Confirm the subtotal that pulls from that section.</p>
<p>I will put an FSA/Other Pretax into the next version.  That&#8217;s a good idea.</p>
<p>Nathan,<br />
You&#8217;re right that there are other post-tax savings&#8230;Id add them to the savings section by inserting rows and then making sure the subtotals are pulling in the new rows.  I would like to note that any leftover funding goes into the same 5% high yield account, similiar to the yearly savings, car savings, and other short-term (less than 5 years) savings&#8230;5% high yield interest bearing accounts that are very liquid.</p>
<p>Mama&#8217;s Money<br />
My suggestion would be to circumvent the paycheck stub calculator and enter your weekly net pay where it would normally be calculated&#8230;should work from there</p>
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		<title>By: MyOwnMillions</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyOwnMillions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Popick,

You have provided a great tool for people to get started budgeting.  There will always be people who are negative but you have done a great service to all the readers here so don&#039;t be discouraged by some of the comments as most of us will appreciate your efforts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Popick,</p>
<p>You have provided a great tool for people to get started budgeting.  There will always be people who are negative but you have done a great service to all the readers here so don&#8217;t be discouraged by some of the comments as most of us will appreciate your efforts!</p>
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		<title>By: Gwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the workbook is great. The only thing I would add is a section for child related costs, such as daycare/preschool/private school, personal needs (diapers, wipes, special products), clothing, medical/dental costs (other than insurance), extracurricular activities, etc. These items can really add up and can take a significant portion of a budget. Additionally, I would assume a section in that area for child support might be appropriate for some.

All in all, I think the worksheet is great and very thorough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the workbook is great. The only thing I would add is a section for child related costs, such as daycare/preschool/private school, personal needs (diapers, wipes, special products), clothing, medical/dental costs (other than insurance), extracurricular activities, etc. These items can really add up and can take a significant portion of a budget. Additionally, I would assume a section in that area for child support might be appropriate for some.</p>
<p>All in all, I think the worksheet is great and very thorough.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This spreadsheet looks a lot like my own budget! I&#039;m sure my spouse would never use a spreadsheet. He doesn&#039;t even open his mail. :) I have been using a budget spreadsheet since I got my first real computer, about 10 years ago. I don&#039;t think mine is as complicated as this... mostly I just type in my bills, when they are due, and when I can expect a paycheck. Anything I make over the usual minimum amount is mine to spend or save. 

I know I should be saving more than I spend :) but I am working on that. It&#039;s always something... dog gets attacked by nettles ($112) or horse rips the lining out of his nose ($180) or it&#039;s someone&#039;s birthday or Christmas or whatever. 

I think the major point here is that everyone needs to use SOMETHING--whatever works for them--to keep track of what you are spending and saving/investing. 

My husband always wonders where his money goes.  I know where mine goes. I write it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This spreadsheet looks a lot like my own budget! I&#8217;m sure my spouse would never use a spreadsheet. He doesn&#8217;t even open his mail. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I have been using a budget spreadsheet since I got my first real computer, about 10 years ago. I don&#8217;t think mine is as complicated as this&#8230; mostly I just type in my bills, when they are due, and when I can expect a paycheck. Anything I make over the usual minimum amount is mine to spend or save. </p>
<p>I know I should be saving more than I spend <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but I am working on that. It&#8217;s always something&#8230; dog gets attacked by nettles ($112) or horse rips the lining out of his nose ($180) or it&#8217;s someone&#8217;s birthday or Christmas or whatever. </p>
<p>I think the major point here is that everyone needs to use SOMETHING&#8211;whatever works for them&#8211;to keep track of what you are spending and saving/investing. </p>
<p>My husband always wonders where his money goes.  I know where mine goes. I write it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good gravy, haters! Shut up!

Popick - thanks for your initial work on this, and for listening to input and making changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good gravy, haters! Shut up!</p>
<p>Popick &#8211; thanks for your initial work on this, and for listening to input and making changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s with the negativity?  This looks like a fun spreadsheet to me. Some people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with the negativity?  This looks like a fun spreadsheet to me. Some people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you thought about doing a monte carlo simulation for the retirement portion of the spreadsheet?  Assuming a steady rate of return is simplistic and not a particularly good model for how reality will hit.

Here are a couple of links describing monte carlo simulations, the first lets you fill in some details and it rolls the dice for you.

The second is more of a description of what monte carlo simulations are all about.

http://www.pivotpointadvisors.com/retirementcalculator.asp
http://www.moneychimp.com/articles/volatility/montecarlo.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you thought about doing a monte carlo simulation for the retirement portion of the spreadsheet?  Assuming a steady rate of return is simplistic and not a particularly good model for how reality will hit.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of links describing monte carlo simulations, the first lets you fill in some details and it rolls the dice for you.</p>
<p>The second is more of a description of what monte carlo simulations are all about.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pivotpointadvisors.com/retirementcalculator.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.pivotpointadvisors.com/retirementcalculator.asp</a><br />
<a href="http://www.moneychimp.com/articles/volatility/montecarlo.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneychimp.com/articles/volatility/montecarlo.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DC Economist

I agree excel can be amazing for these things, and I already made a few changes to it myself (I am not married, so taxes needed altering for example).  I didn&#039;t mention a thanks in the previous post, I&#039;ve made spreadsheets like this before, so I can appreciate the time put into it.

I was just mentioning, because I divert funds to a high interest savings (emergency/backup fund), roth, normal checking/savings, and individual investments.  I realize this is not the case for most, I was simply mentioning an extra row wouldn&#039;t be a bad idea...after all, people might see it and feel a need to fill it, which would be a good thing in this case.</description>
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<p>I agree excel can be amazing for these things, and I already made a few changes to it myself (I am not married, so taxes needed altering for example).  I didn&#8217;t mention a thanks in the previous post, I&#8217;ve made spreadsheets like this before, so I can appreciate the time put into it.</p>
<p>I was just mentioning, because I divert funds to a high interest savings (emergency/backup fund), roth, normal checking/savings, and individual investments.  I realize this is not the case for most, I was simply mentioning an extra row wouldn&#8217;t be a bad idea&#8230;after all, people might see it and feel a need to fill it, which would be a good thing in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Accidental Alpha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accidental Alpha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the (surprising!) negativity, I think you&#039;ve done people a great service with these worksheets. While a lot of articles and books note that many people don&#039;t stick with budgeting because the monthly time commitment is a pain, I think many others simply don&#039;t know how to start. Creating a master document can seem overwhelming for beginners. You&#039;ve solved that problem and the time and effort that went into this is much appreciated. I might become a budgeter yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the (surprising!) negativity, I think you&#8217;ve done people a great service with these worksheets. While a lot of articles and books note that many people don&#8217;t stick with budgeting because the monthly time commitment is a pain, I think many others simply don&#8217;t know how to start. Creating a master document can seem overwhelming for beginners. You&#8217;ve solved that problem and the time and effort that went into this is much appreciated. I might become a budgeter yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mama's Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mama's Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to say, this seems like a &quot;not for beginners&quot; budget tool. 

There was lots of information, but I couldn&#039;t get my actual paystub information to align with the categories or math at all. (Granted, I have a few quirky elements, like imputed income for the value of my domestic partner&#039;s health insurance coverage. But I also couldn&#039;t figure out where more commonly used things like pre-tax Flexible Savings Accounts would go.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say, this seems like a &#8220;not for beginners&#8221; budget tool. </p>
<p>There was lots of information, but I couldn&#8217;t get my actual paystub information to align with the categories or math at all. (Granted, I have a few quirky elements, like imputed income for the value of my domestic partner&#8217;s health insurance coverage. But I also couldn&#8217;t figure out where more commonly used things like pre-tax Flexible Savings Accounts would go.)</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tyler: Mr. Popick has clearly invested a lot of time and energy and I for one greatly appreciate it. If you don&#039;t find it useful then fine, don&#039;t use it.

My mother always taught me that if I didn&#039;t have anything nice to say I should keep it to myself.

To Mr. Popick, who I assume must be the above DC Economist, Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tyler: Mr. Popick has clearly invested a lot of time and energy and I for one greatly appreciate it. If you don&#8217;t find it useful then fine, don&#8217;t use it.</p>
<p>My mother always taught me that if I didn&#8217;t have anything nice to say I should keep it to myself.</p>
<p>To Mr. Popick, who I assume must be the above DC Economist, Thank you.</p>
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