Which Should You Choose: Joint or Separate Finances? Print
Wednesday, 25th April 2007 (by J.D.)This article is about Choices, Planning
Several months ago I mentioned in passing that my wife and I keep separate finances. I promised to eventually explain why, and to discuss the pros and cons of doing so.
Our story
When I was a boy, my parents fought about money often. And loudly. They had joint finances, but it didn’t seem to matter. Each accused the other of being financially irresponsible. (Both were right.) Their example left me disenchanted with the notion of mutual money management.
During the years Kris and I dated, we had our own accounts. From the beginning, I was a spendthrift and Kris was a saver. She always made smart financial decisions. Because my money was my money, and her money was her money, my poor choices did not drain her savings.
When we were married in 1993, it didn’t occur to us to combine our finances. I can’t recall that we even discussed the issue. It seemed natural to maintain the status quo. Some people find this strange; they feel that it fundamentally undermines the nature of marriage. But it’s one of the best things we’ve ever done. This system works for us because:
- We have no children,
- Our salaries have always been roughly equivalent, and
- We’ve found a way to split household bills evenly.
This system also works because we trust each other to take care of financial obligations. (Even when I was a spendthrift, bills and household expenses always came first.) Now that I’m making smart choices, we do have one joint account for use solely as an emergency fund.
Pros and cons
Which is better: joint or separate finances? Both sides offer strong arguments. Good reasons to combine finances include:
- Religious beliefs. Some religions encourage joint finances.
- Pragmatism. Some people believe that joint finances make a marriage work more efficiently.
- Convenience. It’s easier for some couples to have a central pool of money from which all expenses are paid.
- One partner is better at handling money. I know a couple in which the husband has no concept of money. He deposits his paycheck, and buys the things he wants, but he has no idea how to budget or how to keep track of bills. His wife is the just the opposite. For them, joint finances are a must.
- One partner’s income is higher than the other. Nickel recently wrote in the forums: “My wife stays at home and I’m the one that earns the money. However, I wouldn’t be able to do what I do without her doing what she does… Keeping separate accounts under such circumstances would just be [wrong.]“
- It costs less. When a couple has fewer accounts, they pay fewer fees. Also, they can sometimes obtain better interest rates.
- You want to combine finances.
On the other hand, there are also good reasons to keep your finances separate:
- Religious beliefs. Some religions encourage separate finances.
- Pragmatism. Nobody enters a marriage believing it will be one of the 50% that ends in divorce, but some people feel that they should play it safe just in case.
- Convenience. It’s easier for some couples to have separate pools of money.
- Both partners are capable of handling money. If either partner lacks financial discipline, joint accounts are best.
- Both partners have about the same income. If one person is the primary breadwinner, joint finances are best.
- You want to keep separate finances.
I don’t believe there’s one right answer to this question. The best choice is the one that works for you and your partner. This is something that you need to decide. Don’t let anyone — not your church, not your parents, not your friends, not some personal finance guru — tell you that there’s only one right way. Each relationship is different.
The bottom line
I love my wife, and believe that maintaining separate finances has strengthened our relationship, not weakened it. But that might not be true for you and your situation. If you and your spouse are happier with joint finances, if joint finances strengthen your marriage, then use joint finances. But don’t combine finances just because you think it has to be done that way. It doesn’t..
What’s most important is honesty and communication. Any system in which the partners are open about their money habits is a good one. Ultimately, it comes down to this: Do what works for you.
You can find more excellent discussions and advice about this subject at these sites:
- Marginal Revolution: Should couples keep separate finances?.
- 11D: Got my mind on my money and my money on my mind — The comments are the highlight here, not the blog entry.
- The Weight of Money: Avoiding the ‘I’ in joint finances — This is a great real-life example of the issues involved with merging finances.
- Getting Finances Done: 3 keys to making your personal finances work as a couple
Your turn
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate? How has this arrangement worked for you? How long have you been together? How equitable is your income distribution? Who pays the bills? How often do you fight about money? What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?

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April 25th, 2007 at 6:06 am
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
She has a separate account, my account is now joint with her. We did this because we needed to have an account with the bank for our loan (direct debit). My paychecks more than cover it, but she makes more than me, so she has to reimburse me.
How has this arrangement worked for you?
I’ll let you know.
How long have you been together?
2 and a half years, been doing a 60/40 split on expenses which is about the split in our incomes (she’s a sugarmama)
How equitable is your income distribution?
Much better than when we started, she was making double what I was making. I got a better job =)
Who pays the bills?
She does. She’s much more on time then I am
How often do you fight about money?
Never, so far. We can discuss money without fighting, and while finances are a strain with the home addition, we discuss our options and she trusts in me to make the best decision.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
We try to live well below our means
April 25th, 2007 at 6:33 am
My wife and I have now been married almost a year and I handle all the finances. For us, the idea of having separate accounts was never discussed. As a financial analyst, it was always just understood that I would handle the money, pay the bills, and be responsible for saving in retirement accounts. My wife loves this setup because she doesn’t know that much about finances and has no interest in learning.
She lived at home for about a year after she got out of school and before we got married, so she never had to worry about life’s expenses (utilities, mortgage, etc.). The biggest challenge for us has been her getting used to keeping a budget and tracking our expenses so closely in Quicken. She always used to have plenty of money to spend on clothes and the like because her only monthly bills were a car payment and insurance (she had no idea that a 403(b) had been set up for her automatically at work).
I think part of the reason that this setup works for us is because both sets of parents did the same thing. One person in the family handled all the expenses growing up, so that was our expectation when we got married.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:44 am
My wife and I have always had separate accounts. I had little preference, but it was something that was very important to her. We’ve been married 14 years.
When my wife wasn’t working and our incomes were out of balance, I wrote her a check every month. During her childhood, Linda had watched her mother have to ask her father for money whenever she needed to buy something. By writing her a “paycheck” every month, we could avoid some of that power imbalance.
That’s the key actually, you can’t let money become a source of power for one, because partners have to be equal.
Over time, the task of handling bills has consolidated on me, so now Linda writes me a “paycheck” every month.
Here’s one tip I learned the hard way: each of our individual checking accounts is actually a joint account. She has a joint account at her bank, and I have one at my bank. When my wife had a stroke and could not sign her name (or even make a mark), all of her accounts were effectively frozen, short of legal intervention. Luckily we had one joint account that I could use for deposits made out in her name (like paychecks that came after the stroke). It turned out ok, but having your money tied up just when you might need it is a drag.
Now, she is on my accounts at the bank, and I am on hers. Among other things, it simplifies depositing a joint tax return, or doing internet banking in either name. Obviously, some accounts can’t be joint, like our IRAs. We do hold the substantial part (about 1/2) of our emergency fund jointly, and some small part individually (1/4 each).
April 25th, 2007 at 6:46 am
My wife and I started out with three accounts. One for her, one for me and a joint account. We both contributed to the joint account to pay for our mortgage and bills and we could do whatever we wanted with our personal account. We split bills based on a percentage of income. After six years of marriage we moved to just one account. My wife pays the bills and I make the monthly investments. I can’t remember having a fight about money in the 12 years we have been married. (We do fight about other issues such as our two kids, snoring and household chores.) I remember she was upset when we were first married that I had about $1,000 in credit card debt and she made sure I paid that off fast. Although I did have about $80k in my 401(k) at the time.
We have a rule if a purchase is over $100 we talk jointly about it. We have tracked our net worth every 6 months for the past ten years in Excel. We have a written budget but we have gotten so good at it we just take a look at it once a year. We both are very frugal and like to save and invest as much as we can but still take a nice trip each year. We have no debt at this time.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:59 am
I am getting married in August and this has been an issue that we have had to discuss. She has her bank, I have mine and we both like our respective banks. It is definitely an issue that we have to agree upon.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:01 am
For me personally, separate finances make no sense. You both live in the same house. So who pays for the house (or rent or whatever)? Do you 60/40 split it? Again, that doesn’t make any sense? First, it seems the overhead in shuffling all this money around to pay your house payment isn’t worth it. Second, that’s not really separate finances anyway, since you’re sharing the cost.
So some people split the bills. He gets the house payment. She pays the food bill. He pays the utilies. She pays the car payment. That may work for awhile. But then let’s say you decide to get cable. Who gets to pay for this new expense? What if you each make your own car payment, but his car breaks down?
To me, separate finances just don’t make sense. I feel the best way to manage is to give each spouse an allowance. He can then buy that large screen TV if he wants. She can buy the Louis Vuitton purse if she wants.
To each his own I guess.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:03 am
My fiance and I (engaged a year, dating a year before that, good friends six years before that) plan to join accounts once we’re married. Keeping our accounts separate during the engagement has been okay, but we both like to see how we’re doing as a household rather than separately, and we’ve already got joint savings goals and such, so we’re looking forward to the joint accounting to make things simpler. (Also, he and his previous wife had separate accounts and he didn’t like it.)
I make about a third more than he does, and I’m currently paying about a third more of the household bills. We pay for things like gas and clothes separately. I have a lot more in savings, because he’s been paying off car and credit card debt and is now acquiring student loans, but I’m satisfied that the credit card debt is gone, and once he’s done with school he’ll be making approximately as much as I do, so I consider it a good “investment.”
Right now I pay the mortgage and the electric bill, and he pays the rest of the bills plus assorted household expenses like food. Once we’re married I’m most likely going to be taking care of the bills, because he’s bad at paying them on time. He’s probably going to be handling our investments, because he knows more and is more interested in that end of finances. I guess you could say I trust him with my money but not with my bills.
We haven’t fought about money yet, and our spending styles are similar (now), but we have slightly different ideas about things like how much we should keep in savings versus paying cash for purchases or how much we should put in riskier investments. I don’t think that’s going to lead to much fighting, more to discussion about our respective risk and debt tolerances and how much to respect them.
We’ve agreed to talk beforehand about major purchases (anything joint, and anything personal over around $100, using common sense–a bunch of work clothes doesn’t count, for example). I think my agreeing to consider buying him a $3000 computer for a combined Christmas/birthday gift (his birthday is in July, but it would be next year’s birthday) has relieved his mind on how tightfisted I might be, which I think he was slightly concerned about when we first got engaged.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:15 am
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
Actually both. We both have our own checking accounts. However, we drain those every other month of the savings and join that into our joint house fund.
How has this arrangement worked for you?
So far so good.
How long have you been together?
Going on a year in June.
How equitable is your income distribution?
My wife is the major earner.
Who pays the bills?
I tend to pay the smaller bills while she pays for the bigger ones like rent. We also both pay off our own Credit Cards in full each month.
How often do you fight about money?
Never.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
I probably have the most interest in finances while my wife can just kinda goes by feel on how much she has spent and when she is getting close to the budgeted amount for a certain area. It probably helps that we currently have a goal we are trying to reach so we can look for a house.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:17 am
I live with my boyfriend, so this may not exactly apply because we are not married, but we do have to worry about finances.
We split rent 50/50, and everything else is close to that. However, he makes about 3 times more than I do and we argue about it sometimes. He has school loans to pay and hasn’t started saving like he wants. I have no debt and have some money in the bank (not a ton, but at least in the five figures). He keeps looking at our situations relative to our ages (we are 5 years apart, I am doing better financially then he was 5 years ago) whereas I do not. I feel like it’s unfair that I should pay half when he makes 3x more, while he feels it’s unfair if I don’t pay half because he has more debt. We get along great in all other respects, but money is an issue for us.
Right now this situation is acceptable to me, because we are not married. Yet we do plan for a future together, and I only hope that one day, once his debt is gone and he’s saving like he wants, that we can work out our money differences and come to a better compromise. I love the idea of 3 accounts.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:33 am
We keep joint accounts, from 1999, and it´s working fine. We are making almost the same ammount and our income distribution is alright. About the bills, every month we sit down and get organized for the next, and we “distribute” tasks for each other. Never had a big fight about this issue. We discuss of course, but the “blood never reachs the river” (an expresion here in Argentina to say that an issue finished before it gets to serious).
And another topic, we learn a lot from blogs like this one, really. It´s incredible that in spanish there aren´t so many as in english. I made one in spanish, to begin changing this.
Good Luck!
April 25th, 2007 at 7:36 am
We’ve had joint finances since getting married five years ago, and we also use the $100 purchase guideline. It has never been a issue for us other than being able to see how much presents to each other cost (not really an issue).
In the end, I don’t think it really matters one way or the other unless your willing to leave your partner behind on a vacation or spend your retirement swinging in a hammock eating lobster while your partner eats a PB&J sandwich in the break room at Wal-Mart because s/he mismanaged their own accounts. If you’re sharing all the things that the money gets spent on, separate accounts are not much more than a thin, dotted line that divides names and numbers.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:58 am
My parents always kept seperate accounts, but my mom was stay-at-home.
Recently some friends of mine were married, and i thought what they did was very smart - they have a pool of money that goes for everything - savings / house / cars / etc… but they also each get an equil amount that goes in each of their own accounts. (3 accounts total) This way, all personal expenses (clothes, night out with friends, etc.) come out of your own account. Also all gifts come out of your own account. This also helps balance the fact that they dont make the same ammount at their work.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:59 am
Joint or separate? …Joint. Except we have separate IRA accounts. But for all intents and purposes, everything is shared.
How has this arrangement worked for you? Great.
How long have you been together? 4 years dating. 4 years married.
There
How equitable is your income distribution? I work. She raises our beautifully raises our 2 year old and 4 month old.
Who pays the bills? Technically, I do. Practically, she initiates the bill payments. I audit at our monthly financial planning.
How often do you fight about money? Fight is strong. Disagree and discuss, regularly. Once a month at our financial planning meeting.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances? My father was a roller coaster; a doctor with a startup mentality. He wanted to instill a sense of financial responsibility at a young age. Therefore, at the age of eight, my began an allowance that lasted until my 16th birthday.
Many would consider it an extremely generous allowance. It started out at $20 cash a week and increased by $5 a year. I was required to create a budget, accounts represented by white envelopes, and keep the books on ledger paper. I met with my parents once a month to account for my finances. If there were errors, there were punishments. At first I was punished by a month of reduced allowance. Later, and quite infrequently, we simply discussed problems that might occur.
Now, before anyone deems $100 a month for an 8 year old and $200+ for a 15 year old irresponsible, I should explain that I purchased nearly everything. Sure there were occasions that my parents purchased things for me. Food, shelter, activities as a family, Christmas and other celebrations, etc. However, other day to day financial responsibilities fell on me.
Therefore, I learned budgeting quite early in my life. I had to obtain approval for my allowance account allocations, but I was required to draft such allocations. Typically I divided up using the following formula:
10% charitable donation
10% personal savings
10% my future religious mission
15% college
30% clothes
20% “fun”
5% school supplies
It might be important to note that the allowance was not associated with chores or other family obligations.
When I turned 16 I was required to find my own job. Book keeping was no longer enforced, so I stopped. And, I admit, the pendulum swung to the opposite extreme. I bought a ‘73 Blazer (this was ‘94). I couldn’t afford the gas. I could afford the damage I inflicted during offroading on the weekends.
My parents bailed me out time and again. My father would have one on one discussions about how I was lacking personal and financial responsibility. I ignored him, being the typical belligerent teenager.
I went to college under the same mindset. At this time, my father attempted to financially intervene one last time and gave me “The Richest Man in Babylon” as a gift. I shelved it.
Time passed and I gave it a try. It changed my outlook forever. I became quite thrifty. Not cheap, but very cautious on every purchase. I was the guy that had spreadsheets of my personal finances for the next semester all mapped out several months beforehand. And to my parents satisfaction, I was completely self-reliant by my junior year. Tuition, rent, books, food, car, recreation, etc. without loans. (Prolific application for grants and scholarships is another topic). Seeing my success, they would graciously offer to help, but I frankly told them I didn’t need it.
One of the (many) things that attracted me to my wife was her thrifty attitude. We were like minded and our dating showed that. We favored inexpensive recreation like camping, hiking, running, and dancing over more expensive alternatives.
The first year of marriage was tough financially. Confusing and disorienting, to say the least. We were both still students. I in my masters and she completing her bachelors. To add to the disarray, we had our first child. We had arguments over money all the time.
As that stage in our marriage ended upon graduation and getting a “real” job, we discussed how we can make this weakness a strength in our marriage. We explored many ideas but settled on a version of my parents’ system 10 years earlier.
Here is our system. We use an online service to create “virtual” envelopes on top of our actual accounts. At the beginning of each month we “fund” our envelopes and discipline ourselves to follow three rules:
1. Don’t spend more than what is in the envelope
2. Don’t change the month funding amount without agreement
3. Don’t transfer money between envelopes without agreement
The service synchronizes with all our financial institutions and expenses are categorized into envelopes. We make all financial decisions by consulting the envelopes. Here’s a typical conversation…
“I don’t feel like cooking.”
“I have meetings and can’t get home until 6:30.”
“Can you pick something up on the way home?”
“OK, let me check envelopes. Um, we’ve already spent our ‘Eating out’ envelope for the month.”
“Its winter and I’m not planting in the garden. Can we borrow from ‘Gardening’?”
“Sure.”
April 25th, 2007 at 8:05 am
My partner and I keep separate checking and “small savings” accounts, because each of us organizes our money totally differently.
IMO, that’s the biggest question. If you both like to track every detail, or you both hate it, maybe joint accounts won’t make you crazy. But if you are on opposite ends of that spectrum, joint accounts are a recipe for fighting, IMO.
BTW, I disagree with JD’s assertion that, “If one person is the primary breadwinner, joint finances are best.”
I make almost 3x what my partner makes, and I pay slightly more than that of the bills. We didn’t divvy them up according to any kind of scientific plan, it just sort of happened, but it’s approximately in proportion to what we earn.
FWIW, I’m in charge of all of our retirement accounts. She’s not interested, and I am. (One useful benefit of being in a same sex relationship — you can call customer service on their account and just pretend to be that person. Much easier than trying to get them to do it when they don’t really care.)
April 25th, 2007 at 8:18 am
My wife is a wonderful stay-at-home mom and homemaker, so I’m the only revenue stream right now. Separate finances probably wouldn’t make too much sense. She also does all the bill paying and all that, although I’ve started playing with Wesabe to try and get a glimpse of our spending trends to curb things. We don’t (yet) have a written budget.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:40 am
My husband and I treat our money like our own small business, and so to us we think of collective income, outgoing expenses, and investments at a team level.
We have one checking account, which we call the “bus depot”. Money doesn’t stay in it for long unaccounted for; it’s either for an upcoming bill or we put it to work by transferring it to a brokerage account.
We DO have separate brokerage accounts, and within those are our IRAs, 401(k), savings in the form of money market mutual funds, and various investments for long term and short term goals.
BTW I am a stay at home wife (no kids) and hubs would rather shoot bamboos up his fingernails than talk money. But, he has learned alot about money management and investing since we met 8 years ago (he learned from me).
Bottom line: I totally agree, each couple is different, and the end goal should be working as a team towards shared goals, otherwise you dilute the impact you can have on reaching said goals.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:52 am
My boyfriend and I (we’ve been together 9 years) have separate accounts and then we just opened a joint account for household expenses. Since we have just recently opened this joint account, we don’t really know how to use it yet.
Question for couples that have this set-up: how do you maintain this joint account? Each paycheck, does each of you contribute a specified amount to it that will cover household costs?
My boyfriend and I also have a joint ING account and two joint CD’s. We have a pretty good system going, but we are new to this whole taking-control-of-your-personal-finances thing and reading everyone’s comments is making me see that we need to split things up more equitably. He makes more than me (another 60/40 split) and we split bills evenly, I am the one that usually pays for the groceries, and we contribute equal amounts to our ING account. Hmmmm…. I still think we are doing pretty well, though, especially for beginners - we live below our means and contribute over 20% of our incomes to savings, not including retirement.
The thing we are having the biggest problem with is budgeting. I just started a budget this month and it has taken some getting used to. I am trying to get him to do the same, but he has trouble remembering blah blah blah. I guess this sort of thing takes practice.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:54 am
My wife and I both work and we keep separate accounts. I pay the mortgage and a couple of small bills, she pays the utilities, car insurance, cable, & phone. We’ve been married for over 4 years and haven’t had one fight about money (I should mention we also have no kids). I can’t imagine doing it any other way.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:04 am
My husband makes way more than I do. But we still have separate finances. However, I manage most of the bookkeeping for his business, including writing his paycheck (and mine) and I deal with transferring the money from the business account into my own account to pay things like the mortgage.
We maintain separate accounts but we share the money. My paycheck is steady, twice a month. His money comes in irregularly. So I always buy groceries, but he goes out for a sandwich once or twice a day. He is not a frugal person, and I try to be frugal.
Our behaviors with money and spending are wildly different, but I am also very independent-minded and could not tolerate sharing an account, I am pretty sure. I kept my own last name, I have my own credit cards, I have my own car in my own name (even though he paid for it!
) and so on.
I’m an only child, and my parents used to having horrible screaming matches about money. It got so bad that when I saw the checks arrive in the mail, I would go get on my pony and ride away. I never want to be like that.
From above:
“For me personally, separate finances make no sense. … First, it seems the overhead in shuffling all this money around to pay your house payment isn’t worth it. Second, that’s not really separate finances anyway…”
Actually, the shuffling of the money IS worth it to me. Further, “separate” finances can be whatever works for the couple. Obviously separate finances do not or will not work for you, so you don’t do it.
I want to also thank the person above who mentioned having the spouse on the accounts in case of medical or other emergency. I do have my husband’s PIN for his accounts but I don’t think he has mine… and we should probably get our names on the others’ accounts, just in case.
By the way, my husband and I have been married almost 7 years and we don’t fight about money. Our arguments are usually about my (our?) dogs, because he goes around untraining them and this upsets me.
I am the responsible one, since he does not even open his mail half the time.
All the utilities are in my name so that I get those bills and pay them (with my money or with the business money, depending on if it is a deductible expense).
April 25th, 2007 at 9:04 am
My husband and I have been married for 3 years and have a 2 year old with another on the way.
We have separate accounts, with one joint savings account that we each contribute to every month. We have never taken money out of this account.
Our checking accounts are separate because he doesn’t want to balance a checkbook. I prefer this too because I always know exactly what’s in my account.
We also keep separate credit card accounts.
We don’t have a formal bill payment process. He typically pays for the mortgage, car, insurance and phone. I typically pay for everything else. We mark a bill as paid, log it into Quicken, and file the stub in our filing cabinet. It works really well for us.
We both work full time and also own two small businesses. One of the businesses he owned prior to our getting married and it’s still in his name only. This is mainly because it costs so much money to change all the paperwork (mainly attorney fees). The second business is jointly owned.
We have our own 401ks, IRAs and investment accounts that we started long before we were married.
We never fight about finances, but we are financially very similar in what we earn and how we spend and invest. I believe our model of success would be a failure to couples whose financial personalities differ.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:09 am
Your question presupposes a first, young marriage. Older adults often carefully segregate their finances/assets and write up a mutual pre-nup. Among wealthy younger first timers this is also starting to be done.
The point is, you want to protect your money for your heirs. My mother, who grew up during the Depression, was frugal for 40 years. I am grateful that when she died and my dad remarried, he had a tight prenup. That money which my mom helped preserve is now paying college tuitions, and is not in my [wicked] stepmother’s checking account! When prenups are missing, there naturally can be a lot of resentment and upset.
Re: my husband and I, married 33 years. We share our finances (one checking account, joint investments, et al) but have separate credit cards. I thought it was important to develop a credit rating in my own name, and also I resented him handing me all his credit card slips, since I am the bill payer. I thought it was kind of infantalizing, somehow. I really like that he now manages and pays his own credit card bills! Silly, but symbolically important.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:45 am
Q. Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate? How has this arrangement worked for you? A. Separate accounts for me and my SO. We have been cohabiting for a year now, and separate finances works out perfectly.
Both of us were stung by ex-spouses who were irresponsible with money and both of us were left with big debt after the split. Financial independence is very important to both of us now, and in SO’s words, “If my credit gets hosed again, at least I’ll have the comfort of knowing I hosed it all by myself.”
Q. How equitable is your income distribution? A. As a business owner, he makes considerably more money than I do. However, he reinvests a great deal of his profits back into his business, so in the end, our take-home pay is roughly equal.
Who pays the bills? I do. He lives in my house and does not contribute to the mortgage so we don’t get into any sticky territory there. I totaled up the monthly household expenses, (utilities, groceries, conveniences like cable, land line, etc.) halved them, and he writes me a check twice a month.
How often do you fight about money?
Never. He spends his money however he pleases, and I do the same. The bills are paid on time and the house is harmonious.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances? After being subjected to “financial abuse” from an irresponsible spouse, I will never do joint finances again. I was young and stupid when I agreed to joint accounts, and I’m older and much more educated now!
April 25th, 2007 at 10:12 am
We have been married 5 years now, and have always joined our money. Granted, we make it work by doing the finances together from the joint account, this takes the pressure off one person and also holds both people accountable.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:16 am
My boyfriend of seven years and I have the three account system. We earn nearly the same salary, which goes straight into the respective personal accounts. At the beginning of each month, we both deposit the same amount of money into the joint account. The mortgage, household expenses, and some shared activities come out of the joint account. We save, donate, and buy personal things out of our separate accounts.
I think this arrangement has worked out great for us. We have very similar financial habits in general, which I’m sure helps. I currently save more than he does, but he is slowly increasing that amount - I hope we will stay fairly close in savings despite that being one of our “personal” choices.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:33 am
Like financegirl above, my husband and I treat our finances like a small business. We have one checking account, out of which we pay all of our bills. His paycheck (I’m a SAHM)is deposited into our savings account, which also functions as an emergency fund. Right now, it has about a year’s worth of living expenses in it.
At the beginning of the month, we tally the bills and transfer whatever we need to cover them into checking. We pay everything electronically, so there is hardly any money in that account past the first week of the month when the bills hit.
For everyday expenses (e.g., groceries, eating out, gasoline, etc.), we use cash, which we get from the ATM at the beginning of the month. I maintain that money, since I do most of the shopping. When the cash is gone, it’s gone, and if that means we eat beans & rice for a few days at the end of the month, so be it. It’s a good reminder to be more careful the following month.
We have one joint credit card, which we use for travel, and we make it a habit to pay off the balance immediately. We maintain separate IRA’s, which we fully-fund each year. My husband also contributes the max to his 401k, and our two young children have 529 accounts for college. He also contributes 5% of his income to an ESOP. As of this year, we don’t have a mortgage anymore.
We never fight about money. Never ever. We married as college students seventeen years ago and are well-suited financially. We are both tight-wads, who love to talk money and plan for the future. We have our financial planner on speed-dial and are addicted to personal finance blogs!
April 25th, 2007 at 10:41 am
My husband and I have a joint account. We’ve been married for just over 1.5 years, but have had a joint account for about 2. There are several reasons why we did this. He came from a family that didn’t teach their kids a thing about finances, so it started as a learning tool. I’m from a family that taught me how to save, save, save. He likes the dollar signs and showing him how much money two salaries could do, he instantly became interested. It looked better to him. Now, 2 years later, he’s 100% better at finances. He’s interested about what’s in the bank and how much can we put away or what can we pay off. Another reason is looking at our parents situations. His parents had separate and there was a lot of fights about money. Mine had a joint account. Money wasn’t as big as a factor in their fights growing up (not that it wasn’t at times the center). But definately comparing situations led us to combine our accounts. We make about the same salary wise, but his debts were greater than mine. Therefore, most of my paycheck now goes to pay off debts he had accrued during college. It’s worked well so far. We have our moments, like any couple who is still learning how to co-habitate, but we our learning together and our marriage has grown much stronger because we talk about our money and what we want to do with it.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:53 am
My partner and I have our personal accounts, and then a joint account for bills, as well as a joint investment account.
All bills are paid from the joint account [rent, groceries, hydro, etc.], and we each transfer an equal amount in to that account, to cover the next month’s expenses, plus a little bit.
We also contribute approx. $100/month each to the investment account [for our future home purchase].
Whatever is left over for each of us is ours to do with as we please. Currently, she is earning a lot more than I do, but I don’t begrudge her that, and do not feel entitled to her money, as she has earned it, the same way that I have earned mine.
There has been moments of tension over the winter, as I work seasonally during the summer [but earn slightly less than she does for the whole year], and there seemed to be expectation that I should be doing more around the house, but that is less about money, and more about what qualifies as “work”.
I am usually the one to take care of bills, as I like to keep to a budget and have more investment/financial experience, so she is usually happy to leave it up to me.
When I ask about her personal finances, and offer help to get that aspect of our life organized, there is sometimes a feeling of spying/prying, that it isn’t my business, but if we are going to be purchasing a home, I think that having open books — even if I can’t access the actual funds — is incredibly important.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:54 am
*Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
- Separate.
* How has this arrangement worked for you?
- Fine, we’re happy.
* How long have you been together?
- 8 years.
* How equitable is your income distribution?
- I earn $90K, my husband earns $45K.
* Who pays the bills?
- He pays all household bills, car bills (which are minimal) & most grocery bills from his account. I pay the mortgage, propertytax, insurance and savings and investments from my account. I pay for all flights (we’re both immigrants, travel a lot). Dinners out etc could be either of us.
* How often do you fight about money?
- Never.
Bloggers love this topic! We’ve no kids yet either. I’m curious to know what religions encourage or discourage separate finances? I’m Catholic, he’s Muslim and we were never brought up with that experience.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:56 am
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April 25th, 2007 at 11:35 am
Our finances are an evolution over a 14-year relationship. We started out young (I was 21, he 24) and we kept seperate checking accounts and started a joint savings right after we moved in together. Then we moved towards joint checking, each contributing equally and getting an allowance. Then, we got accepted to college and while we were getting financial aid, we decided to seperate our finances. Then, we got married while still in school, and kept things more or less separate until I graduated with my masters.
Now, he has a separate checking where he gets his allowance, we have a joint checking and savings, and I pay all of the bills. We talk about finances weekly - this is what I’ve paid, this is what is coming up, this is what we have left, etc. I earn about 72k/yr, and him about 55k/yr. I think this works for us for many reasons: I was an only child to a single mother, and I had a good role model as far as women handling money. From the time I was 8 or 9 years old, she always clued me in on our household expenses, budget and why or why not we could make a purchase. He grew up with a stay at home mom, 4 siblings, and a traveling dad, and his mom handled all the finances as well as 5 kids, so this arrangement seems natural for him, too. We save 25-30% of our income between 401k’s, cash savings, etc. and pay bills after we pay ourselves. We follow a budget, but not with laser-precision. We do trust each other and very rarely question any purchase decisions. I pay everything out of the joint account, and do 90% of the purchasing for the household, but he has a bit of a cushion in his account so that if he needs to run to the grocery, or buy some household tool, or buy his lunch, that he can do it without having to transfer money. Ultimately, our attitude is that this is OUR money for OUR future, and neither of us is greedy, needy, or sneaky about it. There is no HIS or MINE. But again, this has been an evolution. We never fight about money, ever. Heck, we hardly ever fight, period.
We are expecting our first baby in July, which has thrown a bit of a loop into our debt-shunning tendancies. But we aren’t too stressed about it - we are buying what we can for cash off of Craigslist, and trying to use credit wisely otherwise. I love a good bargain and hate paying retail for anything, but there are some things that you just have to buy new when you have a kid coming. But if we stick with our long term goals, keep talking about money, and just enjoy this experience together, I know we will be just fine.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:39 am
I’m not married yet, but I’m planning on having a combination of individual accounts and a joint account for household expenses. I like the idea that Suze Orman suggests, “set up three accounts: two individual checking accounts, to use for private needs and wants, and one account for joint expenses, in which both partners deposit equal percentages of their income, not equal amounts of money.”
April 25th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
We now have only joint accounts, but for the first six years or so that we were together, we had personal accounts and a shared finances account. Bills were paid out of the central account; both of us had divided direct-deposit of our pay checks so that some money went into our personal account and some went into the shared one.
How has this arrangement worked for you?
It’s very much evolved over time. That said, we’ve never had any significant disagreements about money. We both have good intentions re: paying the bills, but both of us have had periods of falling behind. We’ve handled this by having one of us be solely responsible for the bill paying; responsibility shifts as soon as there are late payments (or we ask the other person to take over).
How long have you been together?
Eleven years.
How equitable is your income distribution?
Not very. For much of the last eight years, I have been in grad school and so earning a small fraction of my husband’s income.
Who pays the bills? How often do you fight about money? What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
I mostly answered these above, I think. Overall, flexibility, trust, and communication have all been vital. Both of us had examples of what NOT to do in our parents, but basically nothing about what SHOULD be done, so we’ve been making it up as we went along.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
My husband and I (both in our 40s) have been married 2 1/2 years and lived together for 3 years before that. We’ve been keeping separate accounts because our money styles are incompatible and because merging money with an irresponsible (now ex-)husband was a disaster that cost me decades of financial progress.
We both spend less than we earn, are on track for retirement, and have no debt except a mortgage, but the similarities end there. I plan carefully and track every dollar moving through my accounts. In contrast, when I moved in, he had all his savings in a checking account, earning no interest. Why? “I don’t want to have to worry about balancing my checkbook.” Under my influence, he now has an interest-bearing checking account with a high enough balance to keep him comfortable and a money market account for the rest. He feels strongly that his responsible behavior has earned him the right not to think about money, and I can’t really argue with that.
We don’t fight about money (or much of anything). We know each other’s account balances, at least roughly, and tend to consult each other about purchases that are major or feel self-indulgent. Both names are on all the checking accounts, but we don’t have direct access to each other’s money market or retirement accounts.
When we got together, I was making about 80% of his salary. Courtesy of a promotion and a side business, I now make 50-60% more than he does. It hasn’t seemed to make much difference to our relationship either way.
We try to split expenses 50-50. I pay the mortgage because he had equity in our house before I moved in. Household bills are autopaid out of a joint account, which I keep track of. When it runs low, we take turns refilling it. We used to reimburse each other carefully for all joint expenditures, even writing checks to equalize our wedding and honeymoon costs. Since we got married, we’ve become increasingly sloppy about that, and about six months ago we stopped keeping track altogether.
This new system that we’ve drifted into screws up my accounting. With his permission, I recently went through a year of his checking and credit card statements to see what we were really spending on my budget categories. (He seemed only politely interested in the results.) I think we’re heading toward merging our money, but first we need to figure out how to handle the style problem gracefully.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
My husband and I got married last September, and we both kept our individual bank accounts; partly out of laziness, partly because we both like our banks and couldn’t agree on which one should move to if we consolidated, but mainly because it simplifies things and we couldn’t really come up with a compelling reason to keep a joint account.
Since I’m currently the sole earner, and since about all of our debts were brought into the marriage by me, and since in spite of that I still turned out to be the one who is better at money management, I handle all of the bills. Once all of the bills and necessities are taken care of and savings are set aside, we divvy up the rest equally between us for personal spending. He puts his in his bank account, I keep mine in my checking, and we’re both free to spend our share however we see fit.
I followed your link to Getting Finances Done, and it’s interesting that we kind of instinctively followed the three keys listed there for making finances work as a couple. Not to the letter, but that’s all pretty much the pattern we fell into, and it’s worked pretty well so far. We have yet to have a single fight about our finances, although we have regular discussions about how much we have and where it’s going.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Really enjoyed this post b/c I just got married last year and we are in the middle of talking about how to combine finances. I was also talking with one of my good friends about this issue and she’s been married for 10 years and found our debate about finances funny. She mentioned that when she got married her and husband had so little it never occured to them not to combine accts. I started talking her through our accounts, we have 4 checking accts, 2 reg. savings accts., mult. online savings accts., mutlitple mortgages on multiple properties, 2 401ks, 2 IRAs, 1 misc. stock acct., 2 529 plans for my brother’s children. When I was done, she understood the dilemma. Our finances are complicated but I think we are going to work to combine our personal checking (2 accts.) with our house acct. and also comine our personal savings (2 accts.) to reduce 5 checking accts. to 2 checking and 2 savings to 1 savings. Mostly we are considering this because we are working on a major debt repayment (husband’s MBA student loan debt) and its hard to budget and keep track of spending when I don’t have access to all accts. I also want to automate 1 mort. payment, the 1 my husband pays, and I can’t do so until we combine accts.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
My fiance and I have been together 2 1/2 years, getting married in August. Before we moved in together we had a money talk to get everything out on the table. I came from a family that watched money very carefully, his not at all. Fortunately for me, he has been very eager to improve his financial situation and adopt better habits, and thus far we have not had any fights about money.
We currently split rent relative to our income, and all other bills 50/50. He rarely spends money on non-essential items, and keeps to a tight budget, including a $100-$200/month contribution to a savings account he started after meeting me. He talks to me on the rare occasions he withdraws money from the savings account.
I’m planning to keep my finances separate from his for a while because he is a writer with small income and significant student loans. I have never intended to rely on someone else to achieve my life goals (e.g. house, kids, travel) and marriage isn’t going to change that. As long as he’s bringing in enough income to support himself, and making progress toward his writing career, I’m content.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Now to answer the questions:
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
We have 2 joint checking acounts and 2 individual checking accounts.
How has this arrangement worked for you?
Worked well until this year. Now that we are tracking our spending and trying to work with a budget its not working as well.
How long have you been together?
6 years, 3 years sharing a home, 6 months of marriage.
How equitable is your income distribution? I earn more than double what my husband earns and together we bring home quite a bit of bacon.
Who pays the bills?
I pay all the bills (household bills, mortgage on our primary home and mortgages on our investment properties [except he pays 1 mortgage, his previous home that is rented), I also manage the finances for our rental properties, keep track of rental income, expenses, leases, manage savings accounts for annual expenses for insurance, real estate tax, etc. (we don’t let the banks manage our escrow payments on our properties). I also manage our budget (a work in progress) and track our finances, etc.
Currently, he transfers a certain amount of money into our joint account to cover 1/2 our mort. on our primary home. The rest of the household bills (except for groceries) are paid for with ‘my’ money, I also cover the monthly escrow set aside for our tax and insurance on our primary home. I also pay the mort. on one of our investment properties that has no rental income (vacant land). I also pay the bulk of his MBA loan payment each month. He does the grocery shopping and pays for the groceries (I hat the grocery store with a passion).
How often do you fight about money?
Our fights about money really are not about money but instead have to do with different perspectives on our investment properties. He wants to spend money to accomplish certain renovation tasks/projects and I want our real estate investments to pay for themselves (rental income should cover mortg., tax, insurance, and any repairs). I think that sometimes because he is detached from the $ side of our real estate investments he starts to forget about how much they cost on a monthly basis. He also thinks that the money we put into the renovations/upgrades are worth it because it improves the property.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
We also have an agreement that any transaction of $300 or more must be discussed (or at least mentioned) regardless of whether there are sufficient monies in the budget. This policy seems to work well but we don’t feel like we are checking in on every purchase.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate? Joint accounts, neither of us wanted separate. Besides, if one of us goes down, the other has complete access to everything.
How has this arrangement worked for you? Works great. I’m more financially savvy, used Quicken since ‘96, and have taken about 4 years of accounting classes. My wife knows how to handle the budget, work the accounts, balance a checkbook, but does not enjoy it like I do.
How long have you been together? Married 2 1/2 years, known each about 4 years total.
Who pays the bills? I maintain the books. Every quarter, my wife and I discuss where our money is going and what are goals are for the next quarter. Once a year, we discuss the years goals.
How equitable is your income distribution? I’m a full time software engineer. She is now a domestic engineer (mom). She is looking to expand her skills to work part time in an area that she can be passionate about.
How often do you fight about money? We don’t fight about money, since we discuss it monthly, quarterly and yearly.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances? 1) Communication is absolutely vital. 2) Spending plan (hate the word budget with a vengeance) tells you both how you want to spend your money (dreams, goals, debt, living, etc.) 3) Emergency fund (working it back up) is essential.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
My husband and I have three accounts. We each have individual checking accounts and one joint.
Because I am a full-time student, my husband is the sole earner. We are saving to have a house built (on an Army sergeant’s paycheck, too!) so we have a mortgage on a piece of land.
Right now, his paycheck gets deposited into his account and he transfers money to the joint account for me to pay bills out of. With us living on two different continents with a nine hour time difference, trying to keep a joint account was…difficult.
We’ve been married almost three years, but have spent about 12 weeks of that living together (we did back to back tours in a lovely desert country), and we’re about to start our “real” living together in about a week, so right now, we’ve decided that his paycheck and my GI bill, along with my National Guard pay will all go into the joint account. We each will get $100 mad money (per pay period) to do whatever we want with, no questions asked.
Any money left over at the end of the month will be put into the Vanguard Money Market. Once we get that up to $10,000 (and we’re halfway there!), we’ll fund our Roths, and then start diversifying our portfolio. Oh yeah and pick up a mortgage payment. We don’t have car payments, we don’t have cable bills or anything like that. 99% of our bills are pretty static, so I think this will work for us.
April 25th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
With separate accounts, if one of you were to die suddenly, it would take a lot longer to access this person’s money.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
When my wife first started working, we wanted to keep our accounts separate so we could just rely on my income for expenses and count anything she made as gravy. That way, if she decided not to work in the future, the weaning process taking us from two incomes to one would be simple. But my account soon felt too much like just that - “my” account, and hers became “her” account. That wouldn’t be a problem in the long run if we were to keep two separate accounts because I was making enough to cover expenses and then some. The reason we decided to combine into a joint account just a few months back is to make sure our account is “our” account, so if J stops working, she’ll feel just as comfortable using “our” account as she did using “her” account. And so far, so good. We both end up wanting to save every little penny we can anyway, so it’s a very harmonious joint effort.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Hi, my wife and I combined our finances when we got married and I think she was probably more concerned about this because not only am I the spender in the relationship, she also makes nearly twice what I do! But honestly, this has never even been an issue and I can’t even recall one time that we’ve had an argument over money. I still like to spend from time to time, but she has taught me a lot about saving for the future and being smart with “our” money.
Two things that we do really seem to help:
- Even though we have joint bank, savings, and investment accounts we still have separate credit cards. (This was just because we haven’t gotten around to getting a joint credit card account.) But in many ways this is great because neither of us are nit-picking over little things. I can spend $50 on dinner with a friend and she isn’t going to be bothered with it.
- We have a rule that if you are going to spend over $300 on something, talk about it first. This is fair I think…neither of us has ever said “No, you can’t buy that” but it’s just more of a common courtesy “heads-up” about a larger than normal purchase. Often times your partner may suggest a better solution. I wanted to buy a 24″ Dell LCD for my current computer which is about 4 years old. So I ran it past my wife…she had also picked up on that fact that I’d like a new Mac (I was considering the mini or a laptop) in the next year or so and she suggested the 24″ iMac. After some investigation, this made way more financial sense than a 24″ Dell monitor, then replacing my current system with a mini or laptop down the road.
April 26th, 2007 at 5:15 am
When you get married you become one, why not combine your finances. Couple problems with the “his” account and “her” account are that it is just as easy to apply this logic to other things in your marriage. In reality, whatever money either of you make, is YOUR money together, regardless of your income levels.
When we first married we did the separate accounts, and eventually this lead to much less harmony. For instance, wife after having child, changed careers and was contributing a much smaller percentage to expenses. Every month when we would do our budget, it was brought up each time, who was contributing what and what percentage and all that. Its just not healthy for either party.
If I make $25 and she makes $50, we have $75 to spend next month. We make a new budget every single month, and we do this by sitting down together and plan the month’s expenses.
April 26th, 2007 at 5:28 am
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
– We started keeping joint accounts when we were living together about 20 years ago and kept the accounts joint when we married. We made an agreement then that either of us could spend up to $200 on a single item, no questions asked, and that agreement has held.
How has this arrangement worked for you?
– Well. We realized very early on that making money a power issue would blow our relationship apart, so we worked hard at being equal partners.
How long have you been together?
– Since the late 1980’s. We met as teenagers.
How equitable is your income distribution?
– Not very. I earn more than my husband by a substantial margin. When we had kids, we realized we could make it on my income alone, but not on his alone. I was ready to go part-time, but in the end, he got to stay home with the kids most of the time until the second was in kindergarten. So his career kind of started later than mine.
Who pays the bills?
– We both hate it, so we switch off periodically. Right now I am, but he has done the day-to-day bill paying most of the way, while I organized our annual tax and plan routine. He is the main retirement and college payment planner for the household. I scout out mortgages. We’re just interested in different things.
How often do you fight about money?
– Can’t remember a money fight. We sometimes wrangle a little when I buy a book or he buys a CD full price when there is debt on the credit card. But even that is rare now. We are trying very hard to model rationality and openess about finances to our kids, who are teens now.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
– It works for us. We calibrated our retirement investments, which are in 4 separate accounts, as a single portfolio, even though we own them separately.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:31 am
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April 26th, 2007 at 7:00 am
*Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
- Joint.
* How has this arrangement worked for you?
- It works really well for us. We consult each other before any purchase, no matter how big or small (even a $1 cup of coffee). Not only does it make sure that we’re not spending money the other person expects to be in the account, it keeps our spending in check. I can’t imagine how silly I’d feel saying, “honey, do you mind if I buy a Margaritaville frozen drink maker?” I know that he’d tell me to go ahead, but it makes us both consider where we’re putting our money, and gives us an excuse to have a brief mid-day chat
* How long have you been together?
- 3 years, married for 2.5 of those.
* How equitable is your income distribution?
- I earn a few dollars an hour more than him, but he has a 40 hour work week while I work 35, so our paycheques are pretty much even. When I first moved in with him I wasn’t allowed to work in the US, so we lived off one (very small for our area) income. Now that I can work and he has a better-paying job, “my” income goes into savings while we live off “his”.
* Who pays the bills?
- I’m the one to physically pay them, but they come out of our joint chequing.
* How often do you fight about money?
- Never.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:20 am
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April 26th, 2007 at 8:38 am
My husband and I have been married 12 years and have always had a “yours, mine and ours” approach to finances. We have a joint account for household expenses and we each have personal checking and personal investment accounts. Every year at tax time, we make up a budget for the coming year based on the previous year’s household expenses. Then we add up our combined income and figure out who makes what percentage of that total — this year he makes 75% and I make 25%. Next we determine the total amount of money that will need to go into the joint account per pay period (we each get paid every two weeks), and he deposits 75% and I deposit 25% of that amount into the joint checking account. This way, we are each contributing an amount commensurate with our actual earnings and neither has an undue burden or an unfair benefit. The rest of our money is ours to do with as we please, no questions asked.
Neither of us would have ever considered merging all our income together; in my opinion this removes a healthy amount of independence within a marriage. We have never had a single argument about money, ever, and in less than two years, we will be permanently retiring from full-time work in our late 40s with a net worth of well over $2 million, excluding the value of our home. We do not make an outrageous amount of money; we simply live very comfortably, well below our means, and are committed to saving steadily and diligently. Personally, I think the “yours, mine, ours” system is the way to go.
April 26th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
My fiancee and I have seperate accounts and will continue to do so. We may or may not create a joint account to pay bills from after we’re married.
This arrangement works well for us. I electronically transfer my part of the bills to my fiancee who sends them out as they are mostly all in his name.
We’ve been together for about 4 years now and have never fought about money.
Until the beginning of this year, I made about 6k (college student) and my fiancee made in the 35-45k range. Quite the difference.
I didn’t so much move in as just stop going home, so I’ve been picking up the bills equally gradually. It started out with me paying half of any bill that would significantly increase because I moved in (grocery budget for instance). I also picked up whatever portion of the rent I could afford at the time. (I worked a variety of hours and jobs.) The expectation is that once I get my full time job next year, we will both pay half of the bills. Personal bills such as our seperate phones, car insurance, gas, school loans(mine), credit card(his) will be paid seperately. Any other income we have is ours to spend or save how we want. Gifts are handled by who the person ‘belongs’ to. I buy for my friends and family, and he for his, including christmas presents.
April 26th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
To me, something seems inherently wrong with having separate accounts.
My wife and I have been married for 11 months, and we’ve had a joint account all along. She has been working the whole time too, but since she’s getting close to having our new boy, tomorrow is her last day at work. Though I make more than her, I have always considered the money we make to be our money. I don’t see marriage simply as a symbiotic partnership, it goes much deeper than that. We’re the same person. So to write my wife a check, or for her to have to pay me back for anything seems odd at best.
I’m 23, but apparently I’m old school that way.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:00 am
As a former member of the Banking industry, I can say that no single item caused more financial difficulties than a joint account.
Many couples enter a joint account situation without thinking through the ramifications that sharing finances has (Including myself in a former marriage that died due to financial issues). The diligence required to maintain joint finances when you are starting your “real life” on relatively low incomes can be overwhelming.
Working in a customer service center for a top three bank (flame on), I took hundreds of calls from account holders in which a small discrepancy led to massive overdrafts and negative balances, sometimes to a heartbreaking degree. There is also the legal ramifications in which any one of the account holders can empty the account and the other holder(s) have almost no recourse against them.
My girlfriend of 5 years and i have decided never to combine our finances, even as we look to planning a wedding. We realize that our individual finances contribute to the whole of the relationship and talk about large purchases, but there is an inherent freedom from worry as far as the money tracking issues go.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:45 am
My husband and I (married 2 years) make similar salaries. We have separate accounts so that we don’t have to keep track of each other’s spending (we’re both lazy about that).
We do share our funds a lot, though. We have a joint account, and transfer money into it to pay bills.
Originally the idea was that keeping separate accounts would let him pay off his CC debt without affecting me; but I ended up helping him pay off the cards so that he could get rid of that debt faster. For a few months, instead of him paying $X/month to the card, and my paying $Y/month to savings, we both paid toward the card, and finished that sucker off pretty quickly. When the balance got low enough, we just paid off the rest in a lump sum - no point in dragging it out just to pay more interest. Now, he pays his $X/month straight into savings.
May 8th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
my wife put it very nicely.
my money is her money.
her money is her money.
our money is her money.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:40 am
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
We have a joint account for mutual bills and seperate accounts for our own bills.
How has this arrangement worked for you?
It has been pretty easy so far.
How long have you been together?
We dated for 2 years and have been married 7 months.
How equitable is your income distribution?
I work parttime and still go to school, so right now he makes 2x what I make. The deposits based on that. (He contributes 65% of his income and I put in 35%.)
Who pays the bills?
We pretty much automated everything. I check to make sure the dates and amounts are correct.
How often do you fight about money?
No ‘fights’ so far. We discuss goals and update each other on the accounts on an as needed basis.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
We use Quicken to keep track of our spending. Right now we’re trying to cut down on some eating out and we’re saving up for a down payment on a house.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:44 pm
I just found this thread, so no one may read this so late, but my girlfriend and I (12 years together) keep our money separate and have an easy system for household expenses: we keep an Excel spreadsheet that has running totals of what each of us has spent on the house and joint expenses. We keep a vague eye on it so that when it’s time to pay or buy something, whoever has the lowest total pays. If one person falls really far behind, she usually makes up for it by buying someone personal the other wants. (I was really far ahead, so she bought me my new computer.)
About couples with unequal incomes: it depends on why they’re unequal. We have each had periods when we made less than the other, because of choosing to work part-time. If I’m choosing to work full-time and she’s choosing to work part-time (or vice-versa), we feel that bills should be split evenly. If we’re both working full-time and one of us is just lower paid because of the nature of the work, then we would use a proportional system.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
I disagree that it is best to have a joint account when one partner is irresponsible with finances. This can end up causing a lot of stress and arguments and seriously undermining trust in the relationship.
Up until very recently, my husband and I did keep a joint account. However, we have decided to set it up so that we each have a personal account and we also have a joint account. The joint account will be used only for bills, and they will all be set up for automatic payments. We will figure out how much we need to contribute from each paycheck, and since he makes more than me, we will figure out each of our percentages contributing to our total income and contribute that percentage to the fund from each paycheck to make it even. We will have this amount automatically transferred.
I know, it sounds really complicated and confusing, but we absolutely must have everything automatic and we absolutely must not have any access to the money for our bills. We are both extremely irresponsible with money, neither one of us understands finances or how to budget/plan, and neither one of us will pay the bills if left to our own devices. We also have no time to think about such things since we are both college students, parents, and work full time. My husband actually works more than full time, 60 hrs/week. We are constantly paying late/reconnection fees. And we have three babies, so the small emergency expenses drain our account fast.
We haven’t set up the joint account yet because we are so much in the hole that our paychecks are gone as soon as we get them. We barely have enough left over to eat and get gas so we can go to work. And I keep getting advice on cutting expenses, but none of it relates to us. We already are at a bare minimum, we eat ramen noodles, we don’t have cable, we never buy clothes. We just don’t get it. We need to have a month’s worth of bill money to put in the account to start with to make sure that the automatic withdrawals won’t end up bouncing while we contribute from our paychecks throughout the month for the next month’s round of bills. And we need to end up with quite a bit extra in there for the periodic bills (such as quarterly insurance and doctor’s bills).
SO I don’t know how well it’s going to work yet, but I think it will work pretty well once it’s established.
September 28th, 2007 at 10:05 am
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December 6th, 2007 at 10:42 am
A joint account can work even if the couple’s salaries are different - just divide the expense in proportion to the incomes. If one spouse makes 90% of the income, and the other 10%, the one making more pays 90% of the expenses. In essence, they’re paying an additional 40% of expenses to acknowledge the non-money contributions the other spouse is making. But you’ve got to keep it one person, one vote, as it should be a partnership, not a power struggle. (PS = It even works if one person makes 100% - remember your budget should have a “mad money” or “hobby” stipend for each person.)
December 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
My wife and I (27 yrs married) have joint and separate accounts.
I pay all the bills, do all the maneuvering of savings accounts, etc. Years went by where, altho we both made similar salaries, she would always surprise me with a “want” or a “need” that all my planning had not prepared me for. The frustration of my having to readjust the budget, after she justified why the expense was appropriate, left us both less than thrilled with the entire ordeal.
It finally dawned on me that if it was a “fixed” bill, I’d be happy as the budget wouldn’t be upset. So, we decided to transfer some dollars each month into separate savings accounts for each of us. Now, it is just a bill to me, and we each can spend from our account for personal wants, gifts for each other, and just plain frivolity. We find that we are not spending anywhere near our monthly “allowances”. I never get a surprise and she doesn’t ever have to ask/justify a want. We generally use credit cards or checks and, when the 1st rolls around, I pay our individual credit card bills and see what personal checks have been written. Those are subtracted from the “allowances” and the extra transferred to the individual savings accounts.
I wish I had thought of this simple financial solution years ago. Money or spending is not an issue with us now, ever. We’ve been doing this for 5 years now and the savings leftovers have grown nicely as we are still frugal with our individual savings pots. We’ll probably re-pool some and take a cruise!
February 26th, 2008 at 9:54 am
My husband and I have seperate accounts, and that’s the only way I could imagine doing it. We would have gotten in so many fights about his list of “needs” including cigarettes and liquor, even on our most-broke weeks, and I can’t imagine asking him to take on my debt, which is coming down, but is still more than what I make in about 18 months. And I’m the one making more money. *sigh*
February 29th, 2008 at 5:01 am
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March 1st, 2008 at 12:58 am
When my parents got married, my dad requested for my mum to stop work to take care of the home. Since then, he gives my mum an allowance for household expenses which she will have to account for weekly.
Meanwhile, he manages the rest of the money, portioning out some for savings and some for investments.
Even though he is wise financially, my mum feels terribly insecure because if for any reason he chooses to leave her, she will be left with nothing. Not even a dollar for lawyer’s fees. Or if there is a medical emergency where she will need money, she won’t be able to withdraw it.
I feel my dad is unneccessarily cruel.
Meanwhile, my bf’s parents have joint accounts but it is working out for them badly. Even though they are 60, they have zero savings because his dad is a spender who likes to show his friends his latest plasma TV.
His mum is extremely frugal, she is well known as the biggest tightwad in her community, but even though she is the type who gets terribly upset when the utility bill is higher by 70 cents, she still have zero savings thanks to her spender husband.
My advice is, know who you are marrying.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
We maintain separate AND joint accounts.
Every year we go over what expenses come out of the joint account (bills such as mortgage, student loans, groceries, dining out together, joint savings), how close to the budget we were the previous year and adjust what we need in each ‘pile’.
He makes more than I do, but is working on his MBA (paying out of pocket). We subtracted his college spending (tuition/books) from his take-home and went by that number in what percentage of our joint expenses each would pay.
We direct deposit to the joint account our portion of the joint expenses and the rest goes to our personal accounts.
We also meet monthly to see how we are doing regarding the budget and what other expenses (generally house related) and projects need to get done.
July 7th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
My husband & I (4 years) have separate finances and I hate it. I’m the primary bread winner, and he is partially disabled so he only works part time. We work opposite shifts so that we don’t have to pay daycare costs. Generally our money runs smoothly, but I’m constantly getting angry that he doesn’t contribute more to the household, that he spends all “his” money on himself, that my money is “our” money. We are now moving to a fixer-upper out of town, and will be losing the rental income we have besides increasing our mortgage payment and commuter costs (until closer jobs can be found). I think we really should switch to joint finances, especially since he sucks with money. But I’m not sure how to get him to do it without feeling like I’m taking “his” freedom.
In the begining I made enough to cover most if not all our expenses. As time passed he made more money so he took over some of his bills (health insure, child support). It’s always been a point of contention that he has more to spend any way he wants, and I always have a tight budget.
Can you say inequality. I don’t want to damage his fragile male ego, but I can’t keep doing it all on my own.
July 17th, 2008 at 6:07 am
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
Separate
How has this arrangement worked for you?
Better than joint did. He would withdraw money, not tell me, not deduct it from the checkbook and then scream at me that I was a wasteful (bleep) who “stole his money”! Now it’s his problem.
How long have you been together?
Married 15 years. Separate accounts for 5.
How equitable is your income distribution?
Right now, I outearn him by about 20%. His income has varied, what with taking demotions/salary cuts for his health. I’ve been the steady earner throughout.
Who pays the bills?
He pays the mortgage, his gasoline, his own credit cards and for some of the food.
I pay for health insurance, car insurance, life insurance, umbrella insurance, all supplies for the kids (including any extracurriculars or dental/doctor visits–I also do all the driving), any childcare, all veterinary care for the pets, the trash service (I’m also responsible for taking the trash out), Terminix, my gas, and any credit cards that I use and I very, very resentfully find myself paying the church for HIS tithe. This irritates me because I already donate money to charities through payroll deduction, and he neither consulted me about the amount, nor has he followed through on his commitment. It’s also aggravating because he’s the one who professes faith in God, I don’t. But I’m the one attending and ponying up the cash. The small consolation is that it’s tax-deductible.
I also use fund the flexible spending account and do my darndest to fully fund my retirement account. I know I’ve used every pre-tax deductible I can find.
How often do you fight about money?
We don’t. Sometimes he whines about how poor he is, but I see that I come home with 53% of my income, he comes home with 76% of his and that means his net is higher than mine. So I sympathize with him, as he really does feel poor. But I know that I make my money go farther. I mean, I’m coming home with the same amount of money I earned in 2004 for crying out loud, and I’m not share that information with him.
July 17th, 2008 at 7:55 am
My fiance and I are getting married in December, and have already decided to keep our seperate accounts and have a joint account. I budget my money and created a budget for him last year that he has been following pretty well. We’ve decided to pool our paychecks in the joint account and pay all of our bills from there. Then from that we each get a monthly “allowance” of the same amount. That “allowance” can go towards whatever we want it to, so no fighting if I want a new shirt or if he “needs” an xbox game.
Then when our allowance is up, it’s up! I make more money, but I do not think that it will matter who contributes more if we each have our own spending money that we control.
July 17th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Yup…just as I suggested last December in message #60. That “joint finances but separate spending accounts” concept has worked very well for us. Removes a lot of hassle and stress.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Brad, my husband and I do something similar to you and your wife. We have separate accounts but pay the bills jointly. It works well for us as I’m a spendthrift and he’s a saver. The only actual part of my check I see is my spending cash!
September 8th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Suze Orman, for all her faults, has what I’ve found to be a great way of dealing with dual finances, especially when the couple is not married. In Young, Fabulous, and Broke, she suggests that couples add up their salaries and figure out what % of the total each makes. Say my partner and I make $100,000 total, and I bring in $70,000, or 70%. We would then add up all of our joint bills (rent, utilities, etc.) and create a joint account from which to pay those bills. I’d put in enough to cover 70% of the bills and my partner would put in enough to cover 30%. The rest of our salaries would go into separate accounts, to be spent or saved as we each see fit.
This may seem a little clinical, but I think it’s especially good for non-married couples who don’t have the legal protections offered from divorce proceedings. My partner and I both feel totally protected knowing that if we had to walk away from the relationship tomorrow we would each have had a “fair” financial stake in the relationship.
(This is similar to many of the other posts, of course, but with a little extra math.)
September 16th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
*Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
- A mix actually. We each have a separate checking and savings account. We also have a joint checking and savings account - and a “household” credit card for eating out. We each put in the same amount each month into the joint account.
* How has this arrangement worked for you?
- Great. We only fight when she wants to buy me something and I don’t want her to.
* How long have you been together?
- 10 years.
* How equitable is your income distribution?
- She earns significantly more than I do. We offset this by each contributing the same amount (what I can afford) into the joint account - with her handling overages, if any.
* Who pays the bills?
- Joint account pays all budgeted bills.
* How often do you fight about money?
- Maybe 3 times ever? 2 of those were because she wanted to buy me a plane ticket for a trip and I wanted to buy it myself. We spend MUCH more time planning than fighting.
September 17th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
I don’t really understand the concept of separate bank accounts for married couples. Not only is it horribly inefficient, but marriage is supposed to be a union. If two people can’t even join their bank accounts, there are probably issues that need to be worked out before marriage.
Now I understand that a couple may already be married. My question to these people is: what are you holding back from your relationship? Why did you agree on your wedding day that two would be joined as one and still feel the need to exclude finances from the agreement? Perhaps it’s a sense of independence, lack of trust, or doubt about the future of your relationship. It may even be something smaller such as bank preference, but whatever it is, whether you are willing to admit it or not, you are in fact holding something back.
September 20th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
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October 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Not everyone has a sensible partner; my Dad ran through $50,000 of my Mom’s 401K in just over a year (money meant to fix up the house)because he had access to their joint savings account. If she had kept the money in a separate account, the house would be done. I feel sick when I think about the money they wasted over the years on eating out, fine wines & books while ignoring important things like house repairs and college tuition.
This is a man who complains about never having enough money, but spends every dime he has & then borrows to keep wasting money.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
We have separate accounts, and will continue to do so.
How long have you been together?
Six years of this arrangment has led to zero squabbles about finances.
How equitable is your income distribution?
I make more than he by about 50%. However, we live well below our means and split bills appropriately, 50/50. I am also responsible for my student loans. This represents the only debt, other than mortgages, that we deal with every month.
Who pays the bills?
Both of us have our respective ‘assignments’. I generally pay the utilities, he pays the mortgage. We split our cell bill since we have a Family Plan.
How often do you fight about money?
We do not fight about money, we have reasonable conversations.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
Our names are on each other’s accounts for ease of access in case of emergency, but that is the extent of our involvement in one another’s accounts.
December 4th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
My wife and I have been married to 4 years and all earnings are deposited into our joint bank accounts. I make more than double what my wife makes and all expenses come out of our primary bank account (our other account is strictly for savings).
We also have our respective bill paying assignments. Given that most of our bills (student loans, cell phone, etc.) are automatically withdrawn, there aren’t a lot of bills to be physically paid when it’s all said and done. For the most part, we each pay our own credit card bills and a couple others, all of which come out of our primary account.
We have not had one fight to date regarding finances. My wife and I dated for over 5 years before getting married. I’m not saying this is for everyone, but it did wonders for learning about each other. We know each other inside and out and both have complete faith that the other will be a good steward of our money. In my personal opinion, I believe this level of scrutiny is often found to be inconvenient for most people. As a result, issues such as spending habits do not come out until after the honeymoon. (Again, I’m not saying this necessarily takes 5 years.)
The only accounts that we don’t share are our credit cards. This is primarily because we both had our credit cards prior to getting married. Each of us has two cards. Neither of us wants our name on more credit cards and we don’t want to throw away good credit history by canceling any of them. That said, this is all irrelevant considering we both believe in using credit cards as if they are debit cards. All credit card bills are paid in full each month and all money comes from our joint account. In all honesty, credit cards would be virtually useless to us if they didn’t come with rewards.
While we do not believe in carrying large amounts of bad debt, we do carry a small amount of student debt. We have more than enough in savings to pay off this debt, but have no reason to do so because our interest rate is hovering around 2% (below inflation in most years). As a result, we pay off our student debt with “weaker” dollars.
We do not have a mortgage payment as I was fortunate enough to see the real estate downturn and subsequent credit collapse coming as far back as 2004. In general, it is my opinion that residential real estate makes for a fairly poor investment over the long haul with an average annual return of approximately 3%. Not to mention that my rent is about 1/2 of what I would pay to buy the same home and includes taxes, maintenance, and insurance costs that we would have to pay on top of a mortgage. (I am referring to general insurance, not PMI. I do not believe in putting down less than 20%.) I have a list of other reasons why strapping yourself to a mortgage is a poor decision in most cases, but in fear of making this entry even longer, I will resist.
Shelly-
I hope this gives you some more insight into our financial situation and general philosophies. Now I have a couple questions for you.
Why do you have separate accounts? I’m happy to hear that you aren’t fighting about money., but simply saying that you haven’t had a fight about money doesn’t really address the underlying reason of why one or both of you feel the union of marriage does not include finances.
Please forgive me if I sound rude in any way. I am genuinely trying to understand the rationale for separate accounts. The only reason I see is that one or both parties haven’t fully committed to the relationship. Otherwise, there would be no need for separate accounts. It’s just more time spent administering finances.
Why, in a marriage, should I have more than two times as much in my bank account than by wife has in hers?
December 9th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
We have his, hers, and our accounts. We each have our own savings, checking, and credit cards and a shared checking account for bills.
How has this arrangement worked for you?
So far it’s gone well. Have only had the shared account for about 6 months since we moved in together.
How long have you been together?
We have been dating for about six years only because we started dating in highschool.
How equitable is your income distribution?
We are both full time students, only he has loans out and we both work only parttime, so we both make about the same which is not much.
Who pays the bills?
I pay the bills, because I feel that I have a lot better money habits. I just tell him when I need money transfered to our joint account to pay the bills. I am pretty controlling when it comes to money, it was a big reason that both of our parents are divorced. Because of my parent’s divoce I am tight about it, he is not.
How often do you fight about money?
A lot. Probably close to everytime I tell him to transfer money into our joint account for bills. It may not sound like this situation is working out, but it has to be that way or instead of him being the one without the money to pay it would be both of us.
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
I am pretty controlling when it comes to money, it was a big reason that both of our parents are divorced. Because of my parent’s divoce I am tight about it, he is not. I watched my mother struggle to support us after the divorce, before which she was a stay-at-home mom. When I was in highschool with no bills to pay, checks minus about $40 cash went straight into savings. Now that I have rent and bills to pay, it works the other way around. I put at least 10% into a high yield savings account, just started profit sharing through my job, and try to keep a decent balance in my checking account. I have never paid a credit card bill late and try to pay it off every statement and paid off my car which I bought at 18 in a year and a half instead of three.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Brandon Smith mentioned that he uses a web application of some sort that has “envelopes” for budgeting. If anyone knows this website. I would love to know it.
December 9th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I assume Brandon is referring to Mvelopes.
http://www.mvelopes.com
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Any women here married to a man with kids who has joint finances? We are supporting his 18- and 19-year-old sons who I feel should be pulling more of their own weight. My husband is constantly bailing out the 18-year-old, and I’m really tired of my money supporting a kid who is capable of working. I am becoming resentful of his kids. I am leaning toward splitting our finances.
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
DH and I kept our original accounts after marriage for simplicity. We would simply take turns paying bills as they came in and whoever had the most money would pay the bigger bills. (DH used to make double my salary so I would pay little bills.)
About 2 years after we married, we moved across the country and had to find a new bank. It was simpler to begin joint accounts. We still have two checkbooks and accounts but are both owners of them. All accounts are viewable online for an easy snapshot view of our basic finances. Like Glenn, we discuss purchases over $100 (non-bills). My parents always had separate accounts and lots of secrets between them. This led to lots of problems for them. Our finances are always on the table and we both have all passwords for all retirement, savings, and other accounts. I maintain an account with my hometown bank simply to assist my family members in giving monetary gifts without sending checks in the mail. That is our only account that isn’t joint. It has worked very well for us and we’ve been together for 10 years.
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 am
It makes sense for the person on the lower tax rate (i.e. with the lowest income) to have the investment accounts in their name. This, of course, will depend on how your tax system works.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Why are some people so judgemental about separate finances? Why do you think that your way is the only way? that my marriage is somehow “less than?” What happened to live and let live?
jeez. I may be married but I’m still a person, and so is he. We do what works for us. May you do the same.
July 30th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
JD, I’m so glad you have this post up here. I’m going to keep it in my back pocket for future reference.
Some time back, I mentioned in a social setting that I enjoyed the fact that my husband and I keep separate accounts. Upon hearing this, a SAH acquaintance whose husband is the breadwinner was absolutely aghast. She berated us for not trusting each other, and held up her and her spouse’s joint account as the only workable solution in a marriage.
I was rather shocked at the venom in her reaction. Separate accounts simply work best for us; we are both responsible with our own money, and I find it much simpler to keep track of things when I only have to remember the checks one person wrote against a single paycheck.
My spouse and I each have our own obligations in bills and monthly savings, and contribute money towards the other as appropriate (he helped me pay off my car early; now I’m helping pay off his, etc). Far from ‘not trusting each other with money’, this approach requires a good deal of it. Each of us must trust the other to spend wisely and maintain their own end of the deal, even though we do not have day-to-day access to the others’ transaction history.
I can completely see how a single set of joint accounts could work better for a couple, and I hope in future people will realize that there are other valid solutions as well.
Next time someone espresses outrage at our arrangement, however, I’ll point them right here!
August 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Do you and your partner keep joint accounts or separate?
1 Joint (household), 1 Savings (both), Separate (me-just within the last 5 months). We have always had one joint checking and a joint savings of course, including separate retirement accounts and college funds (one for each of our 2 children)
How has this arrangement worked for you? ok
How long have you been together? married 16 years
How equitable is your income distribution? we both earn just about the same amount, give or take a 200. a month…
Who pays the bills? my husband
How often do you fight about money? rarely
What else can you tell us about the way you handle your finances?
My husband is the one who pays the bills and we both make just about the same amount. I would of course deposit my paycheck into our joint account and he usually transfers money over to his side to pay bills, savings, retirement, etc. He also, deposits his entire paychecks into the same acct. My husband keeps track of every penny. Which is a good thing; I trust him and know he will make the right decisions on investing and helping our money to grow. He keeps up so that he can tell you approximately what I have left in my register. After a transfer, I usually get left with about $125 for spending money to last for 2 weeks. Well ladies…..one trip to the local Target or Wal-Mart for a household of 2 kids, etc., can go quickly. Also, try getting your pedicure once every other month and hair done on that…LOL. You can forget shoes! He does do all the grocery shopping since his schedule is more flexible (self-employed) and I work full-time. Sometimes, I have to write checks for the kids (shoes, clothes, sports related and school related stuff). I do consider myself to be pretty conservative when it comes to spending money….I don’t buy expensive things and don’t shop a lot for myself. My husband is the same way and I do believe we share the same goals for our financial future. We do sit down together and go our our finances so that we both know where all the money is going. Recently however, I was a bit annoyed when I went to get a burrito and coffee for breakfast and when I got to work, he called and said “by the way, where’s my burrito?” Also, another day I went to buy a pair of shoes at Payless and he called that day and made comment about that. It’s like he goes online everyday to see my transactions (if any). And this is someone (me) who goes out to lunch about once every other week. I don’t ever go through his register to see what he’s spening because I trust him and if he did spend on going out to eat, which he usually has to since his job requires him to be out, then so what. He works hard too. I never check or ask him about any purchases. In the past, when it would come time to do my checkbook, I would usually end up being about 150. negative and he’d have to transfer money back, but I hate having to ask….and almost all, if not most, was spent on our kids…not me. He did make a comment, that maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad idea that I had my own separate account….so, recently there was a bank offer: open a free checking account (I don’t pay fees) and get a $50 gift card. I did and of course added him to the account, after all, this is OUR money. I got a small raise and I have continued to deposit the same amount to our joint account and am using the rest for saving/spending on expenses, such as before. My plan is to make sure that I transfer when it starts to increase to a significant amount to our joint savings. After reading previous posts, I do need to add him to the account for emergency purposes; excellent idea. I did make sure that he was listed as the benificiary when I opened it, but that would not help in an emergeny.
After figuring the % of my deposit, I am depositing 80% of my check into our joint account. I want to make sure I am being fair. Should it be 90%? How do I know what % I should contribute? Should it be more? Needless to say, I am no longer “negative on my side!” I can breath now! And if I want to go get a burrito in the am, I can….but haven’t yet! While a single joint account worked for a long time, especially when we didn’t have kids, circumstances change and you must with them. To each his own….
November 9th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Me and my wife get an “allowance” weekly for personal items, liking lunches out, entertainment, clothes, etc. Everything else is in one account. It actually makes date night more fun since you use your fun money to treat the other person.