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		<title>By: Tech Without Wires</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tech Without Wires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Easy ways to spend less on your computer...&lt;/strong&gt;

Everything I do has something to do with a computer. Whether I am searching the Internet on my computer to find a florist, writing an email to a client, even going out for the day has something to do with......</description>
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<p><strong>Easy ways to spend less on your computer&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Everything I do has something to do with a computer. Whether I am searching the Internet on my computer to find a florist, writing an email to a client, even going out for the day has something to do with&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Elwyn Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwyn Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article overall. My vote is for Ubuntu. I now have three of my four computers running Ubuntu which includes a laptop. Ubuntu comes out in a couple of different distributions of the same version 7.04. If you can get hold of a distribution in the magazine &quot;Linux Format&quot; (June) you will find that this distribution gets started on your machine and simply just works. Other Distributions obtained elsewhere do not have the mini-enhancements that this distro has in that magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article overall. My vote is for Ubuntu. I now have three of my four computers running Ubuntu which includes a laptop. Ubuntu comes out in a couple of different distributions of the same version 7.04. If you can get hold of a distribution in the magazine &#8220;Linux Format&#8221; (June) you will find that this distribution gets started on your machine and simply just works. Other Distributions obtained elsewhere do not have the mini-enhancements that this distro has in that magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: The Best of Get Rich Slowly: May 2007 Edition ? Get Rich Slowly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Best of Get Rich Slowly: May 2007 Edition ? Get Rich Slowly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 7th: Easy ways to spend less on your computer (a guest post from Cliff [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gabe Thexton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe Thexton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 08:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the image/photo vein, GIMP is powerful, but  Paint.NET is a little more user friendly, and also free.

get it at &quot;getpaint.net&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the image/photo vein, GIMP is powerful, but  Paint.NET is a little more user friendly, and also free.</p>
<p>get it at &#8220;getpaint.net&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing I thought when reading this article, was that you should buy a mac (new or 2nd hand), or try Linux.  You rightly point out that for most of the readers here, they will only really be surfing the web, writing emails and managing their online banking.  

For these users, and myself, an Apple Mac realyl does break free the shackles of personally maintaining a PC in order to keep it working.  Defragging, anti-virus and anti-spyware scanning and updating, etc.  I had gone down the road that you suggested and at first it was fun, updating and upgrading (mostly to play games).  Now, I have my weekends hassle-free and able to take my girlfriend out rather than stay indoors reinstalling windows.  

Time is money.  It is also irreplaceable.  You can always spend money hiring a techie to maintain your computer, but you also have a cost of taking time to bring the PC to the computer shop for repair, or sitting around while an engineer arrives at your home, or even waste time hanging on for customer telephone support.  These things do not have a price tag until you start calculating: How much is your personal time worth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing I thought when reading this article, was that you should buy a mac (new or 2nd hand), or try Linux.  You rightly point out that for most of the readers here, they will only really be surfing the web, writing emails and managing their online banking.  </p>
<p>For these users, and myself, an Apple Mac realyl does break free the shackles of personally maintaining a PC in order to keep it working.  Defragging, anti-virus and anti-spyware scanning and updating, etc.  I had gone down the road that you suggested and at first it was fun, updating and upgrading (mostly to play games).  Now, I have my weekends hassle-free and able to take my girlfriend out rather than stay indoors reinstalling windows.  </p>
<p>Time is money.  It is also irreplaceable.  You can always spend money hiring a techie to maintain your computer, but you also have a cost of taking time to bring the PC to the computer shop for repair, or sitting around while an engineer arrives at your home, or even waste time hanging on for customer telephone support.  These things do not have a price tag until you start calculating: How much is your personal time worth?</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 21:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christian

I was able to make an addendum to the article just before J.D. posted it, saying just that.  

&quot;As of May 1, Dell now offers Ubuntu pre-installed on some systems.&quot;</description>
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<p>I was able to make an addendum to the article just before J.D. posted it, saying just that.  </p>
<p>&#8220;As of May 1, Dell now offers Ubuntu pre-installed on some systems.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell will soon be selling Ubuntu Linux pre-installed on select machines. For people who don&#039;t want the hassle of maintaining windows, but can not, or do not want to switch to mac, this could be a possible solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell will soon be selling Ubuntu Linux pre-installed on select machines. For people who don&#8217;t want the hassle of maintaining windows, but can not, or do not want to switch to mac, this could be a possible solution.</p>
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		<title>By: RonenV</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonenV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had my PC for 5 years. It is still going strong with a graphics card upgrade &amp; a memory upgrade. Once I upgrade my DVD burner, it will probably be good for at least another 3 or 4 years - high-end games and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had my PC for 5 years. It is still going strong with a graphics card upgrade &amp; a memory upgrade. Once I upgrade my DVD burner, it will probably be good for at least another 3 or 4 years &#8211; high-end games and all.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s always a risk of lemons, but i had my iMac for five years without having to spend a dime on upgrades/repairs (other than some RAM, but that barely set me back at all). I just bought a new iMac this week to replace the old one. Expensive, but judging from the track record, it&#039;s worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s always a risk of lemons, but i had my iMac for five years without having to spend a dime on upgrades/repairs (other than some RAM, but that barely set me back at all). I just bought a new iMac this week to replace the old one. Expensive, but judging from the track record, it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 14:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a refurbished MacBook, which saved me about $200. But, I also bought it on a sales-tax-free weekend. The last 2 states I&#039;ve lived in have had these weekends about twice a year (once around the beginning of the school year, once in the spring before the end of the school year). Here in TN it&#039;s great because our sales tax is 10%. There&#039;s a list of what&#039;s tax free and the max purchase you can make. The list also includes clothes/shoes and other items you wouldn&#039;t automatically think of as &quot;school items.&quot; It&#039;s a great time to make a big (but under the max limit) purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a refurbished MacBook, which saved me about $200. But, I also bought it on a sales-tax-free weekend. The last 2 states I&#8217;ve lived in have had these weekends about twice a year (once around the beginning of the school year, once in the spring before the end of the school year). Here in TN it&#8217;s great because our sales tax is 10%. There&#8217;s a list of what&#8217;s tax free and the max purchase you can make. The list also includes clothes/shoes and other items you wouldn&#8217;t automatically think of as &#8220;school items.&#8221; It&#8217;s a great time to make a big (but under the max limit) purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusitn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusitn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have usually noticed Dell&#039;s Small Business is always the cheapest compared to Home, Edu, or Gov&#039;t.  I always look in there before the other sections for computers from Dell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have usually noticed Dell&#8217;s Small Business is always the cheapest compared to Home, Edu, or Gov&#8217;t.  I always look in there before the other sections for computers from Dell.</p>
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		<title>By: JDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 12:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.

I wish there was a way to get cheaper Macs. I&#039;m ready to switch, but find that even the refurbished Macs are costly to me.

I&#039;m thinking that I feel this way because I made my initial computer investment many moons ago, and over the years have replaced various guts in my PC to newer versions. I&#039;m used to paying 300 bucks every couple of years on a new motherboard and CPU (RAM, too, sometimes) while keeping the same video card, monitor and other peripherals. Side note: using the same computer case from 1999 can be effective, but the end result is poor ventilation and heat issues in 2007.

With Macs, it&#039;s all or nothing. Not that will stop me from switching. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>
<p>I wish there was a way to get cheaper Macs. I&#8217;m ready to switch, but find that even the refurbished Macs are costly to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking that I feel this way because I made my initial computer investment many moons ago, and over the years have replaced various guts in my PC to newer versions. I&#8217;m used to paying 300 bucks every couple of years on a new motherboard and CPU (RAM, too, sometimes) while keeping the same video card, monitor and other peripherals. Side note: using the same computer case from 1999 can be effective, but the end result is poor ventilation and heat issues in 2007.</p>
<p>With Macs, it&#8217;s all or nothing. Not that will stop me from switching. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: M!</title>
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		<dc:creator>M!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 07:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, as always J.D... funny thing is, literally last night I was wondering if you would have an article about free/open-source software...  I found a blog a million years ago that turned me on to all the programs listed above, and a couple others.  I personally like &quot;avast! antivirus&quot;, &quot;IrfanView&quot; (picture and media viewer), and &quot;Spybot - Search &amp; Destroy&quot; (spyware protection/cleaning.)  I also recommend running firefox with the add-on &quot;NoScript&quot; (free, of course) it keeps my browser running squeaky clean and free of all kinds of nasty javascript annoyances...
On the topic of building/buying a new computer; I just built my first a while back and most of the research I did agreed that it is pretty much a wash on price, especially if you compensate for time and effort spent.  But, the reason I (and many others) decided to build was that I knew exactly what was going into my machine, I learned what goes where and what i might need to do to fix it should something go wrong, and I got a tremendous sense of accomplishment from doing it.  When I compared what went into my machine with the closest i could find from dell, I think I saved maybe $50 and got a little extra power here and there... but the value of learning a new skill really made it worthwhile...
Keep up the awesome work!!
M!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, as always J.D&#8230; funny thing is, literally last night I was wondering if you would have an article about free/open-source software&#8230;  I found a blog a million years ago that turned me on to all the programs listed above, and a couple others.  I personally like &#8220;avast! antivirus&#8221;, &#8220;IrfanView&#8221; (picture and media viewer), and &#8220;Spybot &#8211; Search &amp; Destroy&#8221; (spyware protection/cleaning.)  I also recommend running firefox with the add-on &#8220;NoScript&#8221; (free, of course) it keeps my browser running squeaky clean and free of all kinds of nasty javascript annoyances&#8230;<br />
On the topic of building/buying a new computer; I just built my first a while back and most of the research I did agreed that it is pretty much a wash on price, especially if you compensate for time and effort spent.  But, the reason I (and many others) decided to build was that I knew exactly what was going into my machine, I learned what goes where and what i might need to do to fix it should something go wrong, and I got a tremendous sense of accomplishment from doing it.  When I compared what went into my machine with the closest i could find from dell, I think I saved maybe $50 and got a little extra power here and there&#8230; but the value of learning a new skill really made it worthwhile&#8230;<br />
Keep up the awesome work!!<br />
M!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea &#62;&#62; Become a Consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea &#62;&#62; Become a Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great ideas. Last year, I wrote a post on discount multifunction printers and some of the tips for that would apply to shopping for a computer: http://www.consultantjournal.com/blog/discount-multifunction-printers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas. Last year, I wrote a post on discount multifunction printers and some of the tips for that would apply to shopping for a computer: <a href="http://www.consultantjournal.com/blog/discount-multifunction-printers" rel="nofollow">http://www.consultantjournal.com/blog/discount-multifunction-printers</a></p>
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		<title>By: KMull</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ubuntu/Linux is the way to go. I will never pay for Windows again!</description>
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		<title>By: Carter Adler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carter Adler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian (comment 6) had a great suggestion. I have personally bought several items of software which would retail from several hundred to near a thousand dollars each, for $5 to $25 using a student discount (or, now that my wife and I are no longer students, having our friends who are university employees buy them for us).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian (comment 6) had a great suggestion. I have personally bought several items of software which would retail from several hundred to near a thousand dollars each, for $5 to $25 using a student discount (or, now that my wife and I are no longer students, having our friends who are university employees buy them for us).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SpaceMonkey:

I know that iPod support is not 100% US, but as far as I know, 100% of Mac support is in the US.  And that&#039;s not even accounting for the genius bar</description>
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<p>I know that iPod support is not 100% US, but as far as I know, 100% of Mac support is in the US.  And that&#8217;s not even accounting for the genius bar</p>
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		<title>By: Melisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good info. As a new Mac user, I look forward to the Mac update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good info. As a new Mac user, I look forward to the Mac update.</p>
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		<title>By: Swintah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swintah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 01:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this article-it&#039;s so true.  I just upgraded my 2000 Windows system to SimplyMEPIS (a type of linux), and I couldn&#039;t be happier!  The previous windows would usually crash or fail for no good reason, and all the programs were too old or useless.  I didn&#039;t have any money, so I got linux off the internet.  I installed from the live CD and had I currently have 216 RAM, and my computer works pretty well.  I&quot;m going to upgrade the RAM to 500-whatever-maximum (I&#039;m no computer expert).

Some of the benefits have been great image software (GIMP), increased productivity (I&#039;m learning the shortcuts), and super-fast boot times (my dad&#039;s windows takes over 10 minutes to load, my old windows took about 4-5 minutes, now linux takes less than one.)

Some negatives are:  trying to get it to network and the two days it took to get the wireless internet to work (it didn&#039;t have a linux driver, and I&#039;d never used linux before).  Learning all the new stuff can be a hassle, but it&#039;s worth the effort.

I&#039;m never going to buy windows ever again.  What a gyp!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this article-it&#8217;s so true.  I just upgraded my 2000 Windows system to SimplyMEPIS (a type of linux), and I couldn&#8217;t be happier!  The previous windows would usually crash or fail for no good reason, and all the programs were too old or useless.  I didn&#8217;t have any money, so I got linux off the internet.  I installed from the live CD and had I currently have 216 RAM, and my computer works pretty well.  I&#8221;m going to upgrade the RAM to 500-whatever-maximum (I&#8217;m no computer expert).</p>
<p>Some of the benefits have been great image software (GIMP), increased productivity (I&#8217;m learning the shortcuts), and super-fast boot times (my dad&#8217;s windows takes over 10 minutes to load, my old windows took about 4-5 minutes, now linux takes less than one.)</p>
<p>Some negatives are:  trying to get it to network and the two days it took to get the wireless internet to work (it didn&#8217;t have a linux driver, and I&#8217;d never used linux before).  Learning all the new stuff can be a hassle, but it&#8217;s worth the effort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m never going to buy windows ever again.  What a gyp!</p>
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		<title>By: SpaceMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpaceMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 01:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Q at $1 Million to My Name:

Apple opened its first call center in India about 2 years ago, but shut it down about 6 months later.  I think you just fell in that &quot;lucky&quot; window.  All of their phone support is again U.S.-based now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Q at $1 Million to My Name:</p>
<p>Apple opened its first call center in India about 2 years ago, but shut it down about 6 months later.  I think you just fell in that &#8220;lucky&#8221; window.  All of their phone support is again U.S.-based now.</p>
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		<title>By: Q at $1 Million to My Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q at $1 Million to My Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 00:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Andy&#039;s comment at #18, I am a happy Mac owner.  But I can say that their tech support is not entirely U.S. based.  At least the last time I called, which was 1-2 years ago, I definitely spoke with someone in India.

Still love the Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Andy&#8217;s comment at #18, I am a happy Mac owner.  But I can say that their tech support is not entirely U.S. based.  At least the last time I called, which was 1-2 years ago, I definitely spoke with someone in India.</p>
<p>Still love the Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 23:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A mouse doesnt count as a new computer and that loophole was closed in 2005 (or earlier). In fact anyone selling you a copy of Microsoft Windows OEM without a new computer is selling illegal software, technically you don&#039;t have a  legitimate licence and the retailer could end up in jail for piracy! 
For office, the cheapest way to go is via a university agreement (if you are a student) or if you have someone at home in the education field as a teacher OR you have a student then you can get the student edition of office for about $100 I think - and that comes with a licence to install on 3 computers.
Another way to get a free copy of office is to check with your IT department at the office - If they have purchased Software Assurance for Office, you may be able to install office on your home computer (as long as you don&#039;t use office on your home computer at the same time as the one at the office)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mouse doesnt count as a new computer and that loophole was closed in 2005 (or earlier). In fact anyone selling you a copy of Microsoft Windows OEM without a new computer is selling illegal software, technically you don&#8217;t have a  legitimate licence and the retailer could end up in jail for piracy!<br />
For office, the cheapest way to go is via a university agreement (if you are a student) or if you have someone at home in the education field as a teacher OR you have a student then you can get the student edition of office for about $100 I think &#8211; and that comes with a licence to install on 3 computers.<br />
Another way to get a free copy of office is to check with your IT department at the office &#8211; If they have purchased Software Assurance for Office, you may be able to install office on your home computer (as long as you don&#8217;t use office on your home computer at the same time as the one at the office)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 23:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note regarding the Mac thing...

I&#039;ve found that since I switched to the Mac, the amount of time I&#039;ve spent *managing* my computer has dropped to almost zero. This is compared to when I was using Windows and had to make sure my antivirus, firewall and several anti-spyware programs were all up to date and performing regular scans just to stay on top of the virus/spyware problem (yes, I was using FireFox/Thunderbird et. al.). And then there&#039;s the optimisation tasks like defragging and so on.

I can sit down on my Mac, do whatever I need to do, and leave. That&#039;s it. The end. No more micro-managing my computer. So, while Macs may/may not be more expensive than PC equivalents, for me at least the time I&#039;ve saved using a Mac instead of a Windows machine has been enormous, and well worth any extra up-front cost. This is in addition to all the other niceities like the great hardware design and more intuitive, elegant software. 

Now if only I can get the rest of my family and friends to switch over so I can spend less time managing *their* computers... (yes, I&#039;m one of the geeks referred to above that gets &#039;tapped&#039; when the computer starts misbehaving). 

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note regarding the Mac thing&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that since I switched to the Mac, the amount of time I&#8217;ve spent *managing* my computer has dropped to almost zero. This is compared to when I was using Windows and had to make sure my antivirus, firewall and several anti-spyware programs were all up to date and performing regular scans just to stay on top of the virus/spyware problem (yes, I was using FireFox/Thunderbird et. al.). And then there&#8217;s the optimisation tasks like defragging and so on.</p>
<p>I can sit down on my Mac, do whatever I need to do, and leave. That&#8217;s it. The end. No more micro-managing my computer. So, while Macs may/may not be more expensive than PC equivalents, for me at least the time I&#8217;ve saved using a Mac instead of a Windows machine has been enormous, and well worth any extra up-front cost. This is in addition to all the other niceities like the great hardware design and more intuitive, elegant software. </p>
<p>Now if only I can get the rest of my family and friends to switch over so I can spend less time managing *their* computers&#8230; (yes, I&#8217;m one of the geeks referred to above that gets &#8216;tapped&#8217; when the computer starts misbehaving). </p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: KlfJoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>KlfJoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 23:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terry
I&#039;m afraid partitioning doesn&#039;t offer a speed boost.  File A will be fragmented, no matter what partition it&#039;s on.  Program B will NOT be fragmented, no matter what partition it&#039;s on.  Reading File A will cause the heads to have to skip, and reading Program B will not cause the heads to have to skip.  Them being intertwined doesn&#039;t affect each other.  

HOWEVER, it doesn&#039;t slow things down, either.  What partitioning does, is enforce logical boundaries for your convenience.  For example: if you reformat Windows often (a friend does this once per year, minimum), putting Windows on its own partition separate from programs and documents makes this process quicker and more convenient.  

@KiloSeven
You&#039;re really good at FUD, but you were only right about #1.  Take a look at WinInternals and a few other sites about how Windows works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terry<br />
I&#8217;m afraid partitioning doesn&#8217;t offer a speed boost.  File A will be fragmented, no matter what partition it&#8217;s on.  Program B will NOT be fragmented, no matter what partition it&#8217;s on.  Reading File A will cause the heads to have to skip, and reading Program B will not cause the heads to have to skip.  Them being intertwined doesn&#8217;t affect each other.  </p>
<p>HOWEVER, it doesn&#8217;t slow things down, either.  What partitioning does, is enforce logical boundaries for your convenience.  For example: if you reformat Windows often (a friend does this once per year, minimum), putting Windows on its own partition separate from programs and documents makes this process quicker and more convenient.  </p>
<p>@KiloSeven<br />
You&#8217;re really good at FUD, but you were only right about #1.  Take a look at WinInternals and a few other sites about how Windows works.</p>
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		<title>By: KiloSeven</title>
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		<dc:creator>KiloSeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 22:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, Nice idea, but...
{snip}
&gt; The Second Speed Boost: Partition 
&gt; your drive to keep your swap file 
&gt; and your “my documents” separate 
&gt; from your program files. The 
&gt; program files won’t get fragmented 
&gt; and will keep running smoothly, 
&gt; while your documents and swap drive 
&gt; can be defragmented more quickly 
&gt; than the WHOLE drive. Google it. 
&gt; It’s complicated
{snip}
More complicated than you know.

1. Windows installs onto the same partition as application programs, yet Windows constantly fragments its files, by design.  Every &#039;hotfix&#039;, &#039;security patch&#039; and &#039;update&#039; fragments files, as do the Icon Cache, the Driver Cache and the Hibernation file (if used).  

2. The Windows Registry fragments. The Registry is an anti-copying device; programs refer to it constantly to make sure their secret little bits of data are there to show your program was installed legitimately. However, nearly everything else in Windows goes there, too, and changes are frequent.

So, the &#039;programs&#039; files do fragment.

However, splitting one drive into partitions slows down the file access, so the end result is a slower system than a single-partition system which was recently defragmented.

A better, simpler approach is to fix the size of the Swap File, which is the largest single source of fragmentation. If, as soon as you install Windows, you go to Start &#124; Settings &#124; Control Panel &#124; System &#124; Advanced &#124; Performance &#124; and set the minimum and maximum swap file size to the same, 2.5x chip memory, then the swap file stays in the same place, and doesn&#039;t fragment your drive.  

Don&#039;t bother with Hibernation, which also amplifies the fragmentation problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, Nice idea, but&#8230;<br />
{snip}<br />
&gt; The Second Speed Boost: Partition<br />
&gt; your drive to keep your swap file<br />
&gt; and your “my documents” separate<br />
&gt; from your program files. The<br />
&gt; program files won’t get fragmented<br />
&gt; and will keep running smoothly,<br />
&gt; while your documents and swap drive<br />
&gt; can be defragmented more quickly<br />
&gt; than the WHOLE drive. Google it.<br />
&gt; It’s complicated<br />
{snip}<br />
More complicated than you know.</p>
<p>1. Windows installs onto the same partition as application programs, yet Windows constantly fragments its files, by design.  Every &#8216;hotfix&#8217;, &#8216;security patch&#8217; and &#8216;update&#8217; fragments files, as do the Icon Cache, the Driver Cache and the Hibernation file (if used).  </p>
<p>2. The Windows Registry fragments. The Registry is an anti-copying device; programs refer to it constantly to make sure their secret little bits of data are there to show your program was installed legitimately. However, nearly everything else in Windows goes there, too, and changes are frequent.</p>
<p>So, the &#8216;programs&#8217; files do fragment.</p>
<p>However, splitting one drive into partitions slows down the file access, so the end result is a slower system than a single-partition system which was recently defragmented.</p>
<p>A better, simpler approach is to fix the size of the Swap File, which is the largest single source of fragmentation. If, as soon as you install Windows, you go to Start | Settings | Control Panel | System | Advanced | Performance | and set the minimum and maximum swap file size to the same, 2.5x chip memory, then the swap file stays in the same place, and doesn&#8217;t fragment your drive.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother with Hibernation, which also amplifies the fragmentation problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to address a few things here.  Forgive me if it goes long.

Macs: Easy to use, reliable, and GREAT tech support at the apple store (in my experience, but not everyone lives close enough to one...)  If you&#039;re purchasing a mac, I HIGHLY recommend going to store.apple.com and looking at refurbished models.  They&#039;re held to the same standard as new products, only the one faulty component has already broken.  I would therefore argue that they&#039;re slightly MORE reliable.

The Cheapest Speed Boost: Reformat your hard drive and reinstall windows from scratch.  It will (completely) clear out the programs you don&#039;t use any more.  Uninstall doesn&#039;t do as well.  It will be the most thorough defrag you could run.  And it will afford you an easy opportunity for the second speed boost I suggest.

The Second Speed Boost: Partition your drive to keep your swap file and your &quot;my documents&quot; separate from your program files.  The program files won&#039;t get fragmented and will keep running smoothly, while your documents and swap drive can be defragmented more quickly than the WHOLE drive.  Google it.  It&#039;s complicated.  :)

Final Suggestion: Compensate your geek.  not only will this make him/her more willing to help, but it will also give them more reason to be as thorough as possible.  This covers everything from buying new (they can shop on newegg and build from scratch) to figuring out linux to getting windows cleaned out or reinstalled, to fixing a bug to installing some new hardware.

Sites: Newegg is my absolute favorite.  Pricegrabber will show you great price comparisons.  Crucial.com has a great memory tool to find out what you need.  CompUSA seems to have some of the best local laptop deals.  BHPhotoVideo.com is the best place for photography gear imho.

And it&#039;s 5:30.  I&#039;m outta here.  GREAT post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to address a few things here.  Forgive me if it goes long.</p>
<p>Macs: Easy to use, reliable, and GREAT tech support at the apple store (in my experience, but not everyone lives close enough to one&#8230;)  If you&#8217;re purchasing a mac, I HIGHLY recommend going to store.apple.com and looking at refurbished models.  They&#8217;re held to the same standard as new products, only the one faulty component has already broken.  I would therefore argue that they&#8217;re slightly MORE reliable.</p>
<p>The Cheapest Speed Boost: Reformat your hard drive and reinstall windows from scratch.  It will (completely) clear out the programs you don&#8217;t use any more.  Uninstall doesn&#8217;t do as well.  It will be the most thorough defrag you could run.  And it will afford you an easy opportunity for the second speed boost I suggest.</p>
<p>The Second Speed Boost: Partition your drive to keep your swap file and your &#8220;my documents&#8221; separate from your program files.  The program files won&#8217;t get fragmented and will keep running smoothly, while your documents and swap drive can be defragmented more quickly than the WHOLE drive.  Google it.  It&#8217;s complicated.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Final Suggestion: Compensate your geek.  not only will this make him/her more willing to help, but it will also give them more reason to be as thorough as possible.  This covers everything from buying new (they can shop on newegg and build from scratch) to figuring out linux to getting windows cleaned out or reinstalled, to fixing a bug to installing some new hardware.</p>
<p>Sites: Newegg is my absolute favorite.  Pricegrabber will show you great price comparisons.  Crucial.com has a great memory tool to find out what you need.  CompUSA seems to have some of the best local laptop deals.  BHPhotoVideo.com is the best place for photography gear imho.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s 5:30.  I&#8217;m outta here.  GREAT post!</p>
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		<title>By: Q at $1 Million to My Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q at $1 Million to My Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 20:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

Funny you should mention, I own a Mac and a Honda.  :)</description>
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		<title>By: Jordan T. Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan T. Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 20:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, I see what you were getting at.  You might be right about the cost-gap and powerful machines too - I only ever did the numbers for a mid-range workstation; the kind discussed here.

I really can&#039;t comment on reliability, since I haven&#039;t owned one long-term but I can comment on maintenance.  Much like an expensive car, you will get reamed for maintenance if it ever crops up.  Parts replacement on the not-super-high-end Macs is almost or frequently impossible.  Just try adding more memory to your mini mac.  :)

I can comment on the reliability of normal PC hardware - its pretty good.  As long as you don&#039;t get bottom of the road, you can generally expect the machine to run longer than you&#039;d like it to - no matter whether its a mac or a PC.

Now, software does get to be an issue.  It&#039;s the biggest thing to get screwed up in a computer, far outweighing the physical components.  Here is where OSX shines.  Virus and Malware writers don&#039;t give a shit about OSX - so there really isn&#039;t any crap for it.  Also, the free software available for the mac tends to be from much higher quality independents rather than Bonzai Buddy Corporations or Weather Bug Installers, Inc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, I see what you were getting at.  You might be right about the cost-gap and powerful machines too &#8211; I only ever did the numbers for a mid-range workstation; the kind discussed here.</p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t comment on reliability, since I haven&#8217;t owned one long-term but I can comment on maintenance.  Much like an expensive car, you will get reamed for maintenance if it ever crops up.  Parts replacement on the not-super-high-end Macs is almost or frequently impossible.  Just try adding more memory to your mini mac.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can comment on the reliability of normal PC hardware &#8211; its pretty good.  As long as you don&#8217;t get bottom of the road, you can generally expect the machine to run longer than you&#8217;d like it to &#8211; no matter whether its a mac or a PC.</p>
<p>Now, software does get to be an issue.  It&#8217;s the biggest thing to get screwed up in a computer, far outweighing the physical components.  Here is where OSX shines.  Virus and Malware writers don&#8217;t give a shit about OSX &#8211; so there really isn&#8217;t any crap for it.  Also, the free software available for the mac tends to be from much higher quality independents rather than Bonzai Buddy Corporations or Weather Bug Installers, Inc..</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 20:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to start a flame war either.  I&#039;m trying to point out that it&#039;s another option to look into.  I was also trying to point out that over time, the Mac can cost you less money than the cheaper PC.  It&#039;s like comparing a Kia to a Honda.  Sure the Kia costs 1/2 of the price of a Honda, but what&#039;s the reliability like?  How much are you going to spend in maintenence (having the spyware removed from your machine, etc)?  Sometimes the cheapest option ends up not being the cheapest overall.

Also, the up front cost gap becomes less prominant if you are looking for a more powerful machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to start a flame war either.  I&#8217;m trying to point out that it&#8217;s another option to look into.  I was also trying to point out that over time, the Mac can cost you less money than the cheaper PC.  It&#8217;s like comparing a Kia to a Honda.  Sure the Kia costs 1/2 of the price of a Honda, but what&#8217;s the reliability like?  How much are you going to spend in maintenence (having the spyware removed from your machine, etc)?  Sometimes the cheapest option ends up not being the cheapest overall.</p>
<p>Also, the up front cost gap becomes less prominant if you are looking for a more powerful machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy

I didn&#039;t mention Macs in my article for a very good reason: I don&#039;t own one.  Nor have I ever supported more than 2 in my years on the job.  I wrote the article from the perspective of an expert.  I am certainly not an expert in Macs, so I didn&#039;t talk about them.  The omission was intentional, but based on my ignorance of the subject.

@Jordan
I think Andy&#039;s position is that TCO is lower on a Mac.  Which may or may not be the case, I&#039;ve no experience with Macs to be able to say one way or the other.</description>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t mention Macs in my article for a very good reason: I don&#8217;t own one.  Nor have I ever supported more than 2 in my years on the job.  I wrote the article from the perspective of an expert.  I am certainly not an expert in Macs, so I didn&#8217;t talk about them.  The omission was intentional, but based on my ignorance of the subject.</p>
<p>@Jordan<br />
I think Andy&#8217;s position is that TCO is lower on a Mac.  Which may or may not be the case, I&#8217;ve no experience with Macs to be able to say one way or the other.</p>
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