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		<title>By: sbt55</title>
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		<description>When I first saw this title Three Ways to Be Sure You&#8217;re Paid What You&#8217;re Worth on google I just whent and bookmark it. I am tottaly a new fan of that blog! I love blogs and am happy to find this place where i can speak about all things!
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		<title>By: The Financial Blogger &#187; July Top Ten Posts</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Financial Blogger &#187; July Top Ten Posts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Three Ways to Be Sure You’re Paid What You’re Worth by Get Rich Slowly: This is an eternal question: Am I paid what I am worth? Find out some tips to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Want more money? Ask for it! &#124; Moolanomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Want more money? Ask for it! &#124; Moolanomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Three Ways to Be Sure You’re Paid What You’re Worth  Bookmark this: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: shelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s another grassroots transparency movement from the SalaryBase project (link: http://www.salarybase.com).  According to the site, it&#039;s all based on real employment reports.  Any additional piece of info I reckon helps.
-- shelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s another grassroots transparency movement from the SalaryBase project (link: <a href="http://www.salarybase.com)" rel="nofollow">http://www.salarybase.com)</a>.  According to the site, it&#8217;s all based on real employment reports.  Any additional piece of info I reckon helps.<br />
&#8211; shelly</p>
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		<title>By: The Dough Roller Roundup (Going on Vacation Edition) &#187; The Dough Roller</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dough Roller Roundup (Going on Vacation Edition) &#187; The Dough Roller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Three Ways to Be Sure You&#8217;re Paid What You&#8217;re Worth @ GetRichSlowly: Always an important topic, and the article includes some interesting links on the subject. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Three Ways to Be Sure You&#8217;re Paid What You&#8217;re Worth @ GetRichSlowly: Always an important topic, and the article includes some interesting links on the subject. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Links 7/6/07 &#171; Faisca&#8217;s Corner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Links 7/6/07 &#171; Faisca&#8217;s Corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Three Ways to Be Sure You’re Paid What You’re Worth - Some tips on how to negotiate a salary, from Get Rich Slowly. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Three Ways to Be Sure You’re Paid What You’re Worth - Some tips on how to negotiate a salary, from Get Rich Slowly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s My Worth? &#124; Slaptijack</title>
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		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s My Worth? &#124; Slaptijack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Get Rich Slowly recently covered three ways to verify your worth. The one that really jumped out as the most fun was the salary search at [...]</description>
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<p>[...] at Get Rich Slowly recently covered three ways to verify your worth. The one that really jumped out as the most fun was the salary search at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do interviewing for a living and asking about compensation is a must in every phone screen (except for entry level).  My company is a lifestyle firm (media, close to the music, nightlife, dining entertainment scenes) and there are lots of perks.  But, we don&#039;t pay well.  I don&#039;t want to advertise that too much to scare off some of the really experienced industry people who can make better money.  

Unless you are in a company that pays top dollar, you always need to have an idea about salary expectations coming in.  Sure, some people use that as a way to lowball the candidate, but I need to make sure you aren&#039;t the $500k guy applying to a $150k job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do interviewing for a living and asking about compensation is a must in every phone screen (except for entry level).  My company is a lifestyle firm (media, close to the music, nightlife, dining entertainment scenes) and there are lots of perks.  But, we don&#8217;t pay well.  I don&#8217;t want to advertise that too much to scare off some of the really experienced industry people who can make better money.  </p>
<p>Unless you are in a company that pays top dollar, you always need to have an idea about salary expectations coming in.  Sure, some people use that as a way to lowball the candidate, but I need to make sure you aren&#8217;t the $500k guy applying to a $150k job.</p>
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		<title>By: The Simple Dollar &#187; The Simple Dollar Morning Roundup: Moving Prep Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Simple Dollar &#187; The Simple Dollar Morning Roundup: Moving Prep Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Three Ways To Be Sure You&#8217;re Paid What You&#8217;re Worth Iowa based bloggers make $28,000 a year according to these tools. Hmm&#8230; (@ get rich slowly) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SpaceMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpaceMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t disagree with another commenter&#039;s recommendation of Salary.com enough.  I&#039;ve always found their salary ranges to be way over-inflated for the positions that I search for.  It is perhaps more useful if you have a very specific-sounding job to search for, but for the more generalist, entry-level types of positions that many 23 year olds will be applying for, it is next to useless.

I hate to be a pessimist, but speaking as a 24 year old, I don&#039;t think there is much that someone just entering the full-time workforce can do in regards to salary negotiation.  You can do enough research to make sure that you&#039;re not getting completely hosed, but, in my experience, most companies are not very receptive to salary negotiations for an entry-level position that they had 500 other qualified applicants for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t disagree with another commenter&#8217;s recommendation of Salary.com enough.  I&#8217;ve always found their salary ranges to be way over-inflated for the positions that I search for.  It is perhaps more useful if you have a very specific-sounding job to search for, but for the more generalist, entry-level types of positions that many 23 year olds will be applying for, it is next to useless.</p>
<p>I hate to be a pessimist, but speaking as a 24 year old, I don&#8217;t think there is much that someone just entering the full-time workforce can do in regards to salary negotiation.  You can do enough research to make sure that you&#8217;re not getting completely hosed, but, in my experience, most companies are not very receptive to salary negotiations for an entry-level position that they had 500 other qualified applicants for.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Economist</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My advice on pay is that if an employer really wants you, they will make your pay work out appropriately.

So make them want you, and theyll be putty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My advice on pay is that if an employer really wants you, they will make your pay work out appropriately.</p>
<p>So make them want you, and theyll be putty</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 00:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those numbers are all horribly off.  At least for the job market I&#039;m in.  Even looking at the list JD just posted I can pick out plenty of jobs that pay double what is listed on there.  

This year I&#039;ve already made 20% more than it lists my average yearly salary as.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those numbers are all horribly off.  At least for the job market I&#8217;m in.  Even looking at the list JD just posted I can pick out plenty of jobs that pay double what is listed on there.  </p>
<p>This year I&#8217;ve already made 20% more than it lists my average yearly salary as.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a  list  of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citytowninfo.com/studies/best-careers-degree-not-required.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the best-paying jobs with the least education required&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a  list  of <a href="http://www.citytowninfo.com/studies/best-careers-degree-not-required.html" rel="nofollow">the best-paying jobs with the least education required</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea &#62;&#62; Become a Consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea &#62;&#62; Become a Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some salary research is too general. For example, a couple of years ago, I was researching the typical rate for a marketing manager. Unfortunately, there was a huge range, because this included people who were actually sales execs and people who were in more senior management positions. Sometimes, salary research isn&#039;t much help. Imagine being told that the range is $45k - $120k. That&#039;s not much help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some salary research is too general. For example, a couple of years ago, I was researching the typical rate for a marketing manager. Unfortunately, there was a huge range, because this included people who were actually sales execs and people who were in more senior management positions. Sometimes, salary research isn&#8217;t much help. Imagine being told that the range is $45k &#8211; $120k. That&#8217;s not much help.</p>
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		<title>By: SJean</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a friend was going through interviews, and one company had the nerve to ask him how much he was offered at a different employer (they knew he had a standing job offer there, as he had done several internships)!  That seems horribly unethical.  Then the offered him the same, even though they were in a high cost city and the other employer is in a VERY low cost area.  Yeah, he didn&#039;t take that job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a friend was going through interviews, and one company had the nerve to ask him how much he was offered at a different employer (they knew he had a standing job offer there, as he had done several internships)!  That seems horribly unethical.  Then the offered him the same, even though they were in a high cost city and the other employer is in a VERY low cost area.  Yeah, he didn&#8217;t take that job!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that I have found useful is to find out what the person who manages you is paid. You will never make more than your boss, so if you know your boss makes X, you can ask for 90% of X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that I have found useful is to find out what the person who manages you is paid. You will never make more than your boss, so if you know your boss makes X, you can ask for 90% of X.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no hope for raises where I work; everyone is paid within 20 cents of minimum wage.  Because my credit is in the tank, a lateral move with advancement potential (no promotion path here) is not a realistic option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no hope for raises where I work; everyone is paid within 20 cents of minimum wage.  Because my credit is in the tank, a lateral move with advancement potential (no promotion path here) is not a realistic option.</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was freelancing as I writer I was used to being paid by the word (for magazine articles), but once I was asked for an hourly rate. I was caught flat-footed, I hadn&#039;t even considered what I&#039;d want for an hourly rate. Fortunately my client offered me what she was paying someone else which sounded reasonable to me, and it was, but it&#039;s a good idea to have an idea of what you would charge per hour in case you&#039;re in a line of work where someone might ask that question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was freelancing as I writer I was used to being paid by the word (for magazine articles), but once I was asked for an hourly rate. I was caught flat-footed, I hadn&#8217;t even considered what I&#8217;d want for an hourly rate. Fortunately my client offered me what she was paying someone else which sounded reasonable to me, and it was, but it&#8217;s a good idea to have an idea of what you would charge per hour in case you&#8217;re in a line of work where someone might ask that question.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I deflect questions about &#039;salary expectations&#039; before I&#039;m in the interview phase since I think it&#039;s skeevy for an employer to ask me to do their market research for them. If they don&#039;t want to interview me because they are worried I will want notably more than what they&#039;re willing to pay then they can publish a salary range. As I&#039;m closing in on 40 and financial secure I can afford to be snottier than David can, however.


Regardless, I think a company demanding this kind of info from an applicant is showing some warning signs. It&#039;s hard to tell what they&#039;re warnings of, but none of the interpretations are very flattering for them.

If they can&#039;t address this issue with a salary range it&#039;s potentially an indicator that they don&#039;t have a good internal salary guideline for positions. Or they don&#039;t follow it and don&#039;t want to let some of their lowballed employees know how much they&#039;ll pay for a job similar to theirs. Or worse, they want to lowball you!

Alternately they just have no idea what they should be paying, which is an indication that they can&#039;t be bothered to read salary studies and want you to do it for them.

Or they know they&#039;re not paying competitively and don&#039;t want to interview people who won&#039;t take their abnormally low salary. This might not be so bad if they&#039;d address the issue with a salary range but instead they&#039;re choosing to try to have their cake - pay less - and eat it too - keep this salary cheapness a secret from the world at large.

Be suspicious of companies asking for salary expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I deflect questions about &#8216;salary expectations&#8217; before I&#8217;m in the interview phase since I think it&#8217;s skeevy for an employer to ask me to do their market research for them. If they don&#8217;t want to interview me because they are worried I will want notably more than what they&#8217;re willing to pay then they can publish a salary range. As I&#8217;m closing in on 40 and financial secure I can afford to be snottier than David can, however.</p>
<p>Regardless, I think a company demanding this kind of info from an applicant is showing some warning signs. It&#8217;s hard to tell what they&#8217;re warnings of, but none of the interpretations are very flattering for them.</p>
<p>If they can&#8217;t address this issue with a salary range it&#8217;s potentially an indicator that they don&#8217;t have a good internal salary guideline for positions. Or they don&#8217;t follow it and don&#8217;t want to let some of their lowballed employees know how much they&#8217;ll pay for a job similar to theirs. Or worse, they want to lowball you!</p>
<p>Alternately they just have no idea what they should be paying, which is an indication that they can&#8217;t be bothered to read salary studies and want you to do it for them.</p>
<p>Or they know they&#8217;re not paying competitively and don&#8217;t want to interview people who won&#8217;t take their abnormally low salary. This might not be so bad if they&#8217;d address the issue with a salary range but instead they&#8217;re choosing to try to have their cake &#8211; pay less &#8211; and eat it too &#8211; keep this salary cheapness a secret from the world at large.</p>
<p>Be suspicious of companies asking for salary expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: RyanD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RyanD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another neat one:

http://www.opensourcesalary.com/OpenSourceSalary/Home.php

It is dependant upon people providing basic information about their salary. Not sure if it reaches far outside the IT realm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another neat one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opensourcesalary.com/OpenSourceSalary/Home.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensourcesalary.com/OpenSourceSalary/Home.php</a></p>
<p>It is dependant upon people providing basic information about their salary. Not sure if it reaches far outside the IT realm.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Morrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Morrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s useful info, and I&#039;d certainly look it up before starting a negotiation like this, but I would go about it a completely different way.

Instead of negotiating based on what other people are paid, negotiate based on the value you&#039;re bringing to the company.  For instance, if you can fix several problems and save the company $500,000, why not asked to be paid $125,000?

In the past, I&#039;ve done this on a salary plus bonus system.  I baseline the salary on the industry average, and then I insert a contractual bonus if I&#039;m able to do certain things for the company.  

Last year, during my first year of working with the company, my bonus was four times my salary.  If I&#039;d negotiated for a salary only, I would&#039;ve been paid far less than what I&#039;m worth.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s useful info, and I&#8217;d certainly look it up before starting a negotiation like this, but I would go about it a completely different way.</p>
<p>Instead of negotiating based on what other people are paid, negotiate based on the value you&#8217;re bringing to the company.  For instance, if you can fix several problems and save the company $500,000, why not asked to be paid $125,000?</p>
<p>In the past, I&#8217;ve done this on a salary plus bonus system.  I baseline the salary on the industry average, and then I insert a contractual bonus if I&#8217;m able to do certain things for the company.  </p>
<p>Last year, during my first year of working with the company, my bonus was four times my salary.  If I&#8217;d negotiated for a salary only, I would&#8217;ve been paid far less than what I&#8217;m worth.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salary.com has always seemed to give good answers for me...and best of all it also has a cost of living calculator, so if you&#039;re at a job in another part of the country, or if you&#039;re at least familiar with the cost of living in another part of the country, you can get a comparison of 1) the difference in pay for the same job between the two areas and 2) the difference in cost of living between the two areas (1 &amp; 2 are usually not the same value...).

The other thing I like is that it breaks down salary by experience, which Indeed did not appear to do. There&#039;s a huge difference between pay for 5-10 years experience and pay for 0-2 years experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salary.com has always seemed to give good answers for me&#8230;and best of all it also has a cost of living calculator, so if you&#8217;re at a job in another part of the country, or if you&#8217;re at least familiar with the cost of living in another part of the country, you can get a comparison of 1) the difference in pay for the same job between the two areas and 2) the difference in cost of living between the two areas (1 &amp; 2 are usually not the same value&#8230;).</p>
<p>The other thing I like is that it breaks down salary by experience, which Indeed did not appear to do. There&#8217;s a huge difference between pay for 5-10 years experience and pay for 0-2 years experience.</p>
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		<title>By: G G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the salary dance...  It&#039;s best to give a range.  The low end should be a little higher then the minimum you would accept.  The high end should be a little bit higher then an offer you would cancel the rest of your interviews for.  Don&#039;t be afraid to make a counter offer, but making a counter offer allows them to take their offer off the table most places.

The best salary information comes from friends in the same industry in the same job market.  My friends that share salary information all make about 10% more than the Indeed average, and we don&#039;t have all that much experience.  We&#039;ve also discovered the best raises come by leaving your current job.  Loyalty is for suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the salary dance&#8230;  It&#8217;s best to give a range.  The low end should be a little higher then the minimum you would accept.  The high end should be a little bit higher then an offer you would cancel the rest of your interviews for.  Don&#8217;t be afraid to make a counter offer, but making a counter offer allows them to take their offer off the table most places.</p>
<p>The best salary information comes from friends in the same industry in the same job market.  My friends that share salary information all make about 10% more than the Indeed average, and we don&#8217;t have all that much experience.  We&#8217;ve also discovered the best raises come by leaving your current job.  Loyalty is for suckers.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber Yount</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber Yount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good links, I&#039;m gonna check uut the INdeed site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good links, I&#8217;m gonna check uut the INdeed site.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathania - Guest-Blogger.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathania - Guest-Blogger.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People from outside the U.S. should understand that in many US locations - you do need a car. Many other countries have better transit systems - especially train and trams. But here in the US - unless you&#039;re in New York, Chicago, San Fran, DC, Boston or a major metropolitan area - a car will be a must.

Having said that, anything in the $30 - $45k range should be enough to lease a car. But if you&#039;re not planning on leasing it for the full 36-48 months, you might want to just buy used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People from outside the U.S. should understand that in many US locations &#8211; you do need a car. Many other countries have better transit systems &#8211; especially train and trams. But here in the US &#8211; unless you&#8217;re in New York, Chicago, San Fran, DC, Boston or a major metropolitan area &#8211; a car will be a must.</p>
<p>Having said that, anything in the $30 &#8211; $45k range should be enough to lease a car. But if you&#8217;re not planning on leasing it for the full 36-48 months, you might want to just buy used.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>focus on what you are worth and what the industry pays.  don&#039;t go negotiation salary with the idea that you can scrimp on such and such like not having a car.  that is just setting yourself up for low pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>focus on what you are worth and what the industry pays.  don&#8217;t go negotiation salary with the idea that you can scrimp on such and such like not having a car.  that is just setting yourself up for low pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making sure you&#039;re paid what you&#039;re worth is even *more* important when you&#039;re starting a new career.  Since raises are often based on a percentage of initial salary, starting out &quot;behind&quot; hurts you in the long run.  This is one of the reason women still lag behind men in salaries.  

And... of course, since the Supreme Court ruled that you only have a 180 day window in which to sue for pay discrimination, you can&#039;t expect much legal help either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making sure you&#8217;re paid what you&#8217;re worth is even *more* important when you&#8217;re starting a new career.  Since raises are often based on a percentage of initial salary, starting out &#8220;behind&#8221; hurts you in the long run.  This is one of the reason women still lag behind men in salaries.  </p>
<p>And&#8230; of course, since the Supreme Court ruled that you only have a 180 day window in which to sue for pay discrimination, you can&#8217;t expect much legal help either.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I have a rather unusual niche job that never comes up in on salary sites. I ran it through Indeed for the city I work in and it gave a reasonable number for a person with some experience in the area. It also gave pretty realistic numbers for some other cities I&#039;m familiar with and put in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I have a rather unusual niche job that never comes up in on salary sites. I ran it through Indeed for the city I work in and it gave a reasonable number for a person with some experience in the area. It also gave pretty realistic numbers for some other cities I&#8217;m familiar with and put in.</p>
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		<title>By: Baddriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baddriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used payscale.com in the past with reasonable success. How does that compare to other salary-type sites? Thanks for the link to indeed. I&#039;m looking for a better job and a quick indeed search brought up some jobs I&#039;m going to apply to tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used payscale.com in the past with reasonable success. How does that compare to other salary-type sites? Thanks for the link to indeed. I&#8217;m looking for a better job and a quick indeed search brought up some jobs I&#8217;m going to apply to tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Hustler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hustler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are some careers where you can&#039;t factor in what you are worth money-wise. E.G. Fireman, teachers, etc.
The intrinsic values need to be accounted for in those cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are some careers where you can&#8217;t factor in what you are worth money-wise. E.G. Fireman, teachers, etc.<br />
The intrinsic values need to be accounted for in those cases.</p>
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