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	<title>Comments on: Blow-by-Blow Account of a Housing Addition, part two: Capitalization</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/28/blow-by-blow-account-of-a-housing-addition-part-two-capitalization/comment-page-1/#comment-94171</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some cities there, including Cleveland, where I live, there are special home equity loan programs available at substantially discounted interest rates. When I borrowed under one of these programs to do major home renovations, the rate was 2% with no income limits. Before you just start calling around to banks, it may be worthwhile to investigate whether these discounted loans may be an option where you live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some cities there, including Cleveland, where I live, there are special home equity loan programs available at substantially discounted interest rates. When I borrowed under one of these programs to do major home renovations, the rate was 2% with no income limits. Before you just start calling around to banks, it may be worthwhile to investigate whether these discounted loans may be an option where you live.</p>
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		<title>By: ~scott &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linking Logs :: 2007-07-31</title>
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		<dc:creator>~scott &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linking Logs :: 2007-07-31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blow-by-Blow Account of a Housing Addition, part two: Capitalization - For those considering adding on to their house, this is the second part in a series examining the real-life experiences of one couple. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Blow-by-Blow Account of a Housing Addition, part two: Capitalization &#8211; For those considering adding on to their house, this is the second part in a series examining the real-life experiences of one couple. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: telly</title>
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		<dc:creator>telly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realize you were including pre-tax savings.  That definitely makes the mortgage much &#039;roomier&#039;. :)  Thankfully we live in an area where homes are pretty inexpensive, so we&#039;re at around 12%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize you were including pre-tax savings.  That definitely makes the mortgage much &#8216;roomier&#8217;. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Thankfully we live in an area where homes are pretty inexpensive, so we&#8217;re at around 12%.</p>
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		<title>By: JerichoHill</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerichoHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telly,

In the DC market, 36% of our take-home pay is considered roomy (this number includes insurance and taxes).  Of course, take-home pay is affected by your pretax savings rate, which is quite large for us.  Had we kept a standard pretax savings rate, it would have been around 25%.  

Additionally, percentages can mean different things depending on what your overall income level is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telly,</p>
<p>In the DC market, 36% of our take-home pay is considered roomy (this number includes insurance and taxes).  Of course, take-home pay is affected by your pretax savings rate, which is quite large for us.  Had we kept a standard pretax savings rate, it would have been around 25%.  </p>
<p>Additionally, percentages can mean different things depending on what your overall income level is.</p>
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		<title>By: telly</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/28/blow-by-blow-account-of-a-housing-addition-part-two-capitalization/comment-page-1/#comment-93908</link>
		<dc:creator>telly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A mortgage payment of 36% of take-home pay is considered roomy???
Yikes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mortgage payment of 36% of take-home pay is considered roomy???<br />
Yikes!</p>
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		<title>By: W.C. Varones</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/28/blow-by-blow-account-of-a-housing-addition-part-two-capitalization/comment-page-1/#comment-93844</link>
		<dc:creator>W.C. Varones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then there are those who don&#039;t understand housing math.

The story of an MBA student who thinks it&#039;s smart to buy a 1-bedroom condo for $715,000:

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2007/07/poor-reflection-on-usf-mba-program.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there are those who don&#8217;t understand housing math.</p>
<p>The story of an MBA student who thinks it&#8217;s smart to buy a 1-bedroom condo for $715,000:</p>
<p><a href="http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2007/07/poor-reflection-on-usf-mba-program.html" rel="nofollow">http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2007/07/poor-reflection-on-usf-mba-program.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JerichoHill</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/28/blow-by-blow-account-of-a-housing-addition-part-two-capitalization/comment-page-1/#comment-93807</link>
		<dc:creator>JerichoHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fwiw, there will be a 4th part of this series, detailing how to do a few big projects by yourself.

So far, we&#039;ve

1) Built a fence
2) Installed Radiant Floor Heat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fwiw, there will be a 4th part of this series, detailing how to do a few big projects by yourself.</p>
<p>So far, we&#8217;ve</p>
<p>1) Built a fence<br />
2) Installed Radiant Floor Heat</p>
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		<title>By: JerichoHill</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/28/blow-by-blow-account-of-a-housing-addition-part-two-capitalization/comment-page-1/#comment-93806</link>
		<dc:creator>JerichoHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

We&#039;ve already maxed em out =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve already maxed em out =)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/28/blow-by-blow-account-of-a-housing-addition-part-two-capitalization/comment-page-1/#comment-93802</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t use your monthly budget surplus to prepay the mortgage unless you have already maxed out your retirement contributions first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t use your monthly budget surplus to prepay the mortgage unless you have already maxed out your retirement contributions first.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/28/blow-by-blow-account-of-a-housing-addition-part-two-capitalization/comment-page-1/#comment-93801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to see a first-hand account of someone who used the internet to get a better rate. A lot of people think that local companies can always give them better prices and service, but with the internet, almost everything is local now. I&#039;m glad that you guys were able to get a good deal and start your addition. Congratulations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see a first-hand account of someone who used the internet to get a better rate. A lot of people think that local companies can always give them better prices and service, but with the internet, almost everything is local now. I&#8217;m glad that you guys were able to get a good deal and start your addition. Congratulations!</p>
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		<title>By: FourPillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>FourPillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed with your planning and thinking - you&#039;ve done a lot more than most &quot;experienced&quot; people.

We did a gut reno of our new house - did a lot of the work ourselves and contracted out quite a bit.  We had no idea what things cost and how much work it was and it was a bit of a financial disaster to say the least.  The house turned out quite well and we haven&#039;t sold it so I guess it worked out (sort of) in the end.

I&#039;m new to this site but I&#039;ll be checking out your full story in the forums since I&#039;m sure it&#039;s quite interesting.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed with your planning and thinking &#8211; you&#8217;ve done a lot more than most &#8220;experienced&#8221; people.</p>
<p>We did a gut reno of our new house &#8211; did a lot of the work ourselves and contracted out quite a bit.  We had no idea what things cost and how much work it was and it was a bit of a financial disaster to say the least.  The house turned out quite well and we haven&#8217;t sold it so I guess it worked out (sort of) in the end.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m new to this site but I&#8217;ll be checking out your full story in the forums since I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s quite interesting.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: JerichoHill</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerichoHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Of course you&#039;re correct.  I suppose the purpose of saying &quot;home equity&quot; is to indicate that the loan was secured by the difference between the appraised value of the home and the outstanding liens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Of course you&#8217;re correct.  I suppose the purpose of saying &#8220;home equity&#8221; is to indicate that the loan was secured by the difference between the appraised value of the home and the outstanding liens</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit of semantics here, but you didn&#039;t fund your addition with your home equity -- you funded it with your future income.  Banks and real estate agents have managed to turn the word &quot;equity&quot; into something that sounds liquid, which it isn&#039;t. 

But still, I have to say congratulations -- sounds like you&#039;ve done a good job of planning and shopping around.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll love your new addition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit of semantics here, but you didn&#8217;t fund your addition with your home equity &#8212; you funded it with your future income.  Banks and real estate agents have managed to turn the word &#8220;equity&#8221; into something that sounds liquid, which it isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>But still, I have to say congratulations &#8212; sounds like you&#8217;ve done a good job of planning and shopping around.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll love your new addition.</p>
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