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Get Rich Slowly readers submitted a couple dozen articles while I was on vacation, but one story was mentioned more than any other. Several people sent me a New York Times piece by Christine Haughney called “Every Penny Counts“. Haughney writes about six New Yorkers who scaled back their lifestyles to save for a larger goal: homeownership.
Here’s how one couple did it:
In a city synonymous with luxury and spending, Ms. Lee, 30, and Mr. Agüero, 35, decided to do without. They gave up smoking to cut costs, they stopped meeting friends after work for beers, they didn’t buy new clothes, and they stashed away tax refunds and as much of their earnings as possible. Whenever they wanted to buy drinks, gadgets or cookware, they asked each other: “Do I want an iPod or a house? Do I want a latte or a house?”
This last method is a great tool to use whenever you’re pursuing any large goal, financial or otherwise. If you’re trying to lose weight, ask yourself, “Do I want a piece of cake, or to be able to wear my old clothes?” If you’re working to pay off debt, ask yourself, “Do I want a Wii, or do I want to be debt-free?” If you can learn to couch your decisions in these terms, you can often arrest bad habits before they get out of control.
One of the New Yorkers says, “It was hardest not to spend in the beginning.” This is a fundamental truth of frugality (or any other form of self-sacrifice.) When you’re used to indulging yourself, making the switch to austerity can be a challenge. You may feel like doing without just isn’t worth it. Eventually, though, you’ll begin to find joy in things that cost little or nothing. You’ll learn to make do without. It’s not about masochism, but about changing your point of view.
The article profiles another man who had trouble saving until he found motivation by associating with like-minded people. “A lot of pressure to spend and splurge wasn’t around because everybody was saving to buy real estate,” he says. By hanging out with people who have goals similar to yours, you can share ideas, and obtain support. (Just as a recovering alcoholic shouldn’t spend time with friends who drink, it’s probably best not to “go shopping” with friends when you’re trying to get out of debt.)
Haughney’s article describes the mindset that Dave Ramsey calls “gazelle-like intensity”. It’s a single-minded focus on pursuing a financial goal. The goal for the people in the article is saving for an apartment. Dave Ramsey’s audience is generally saving to pay off debt.
This article is good, but I’m curious about other techniques people use when working toward large financial goals. I’m a huge proponent of the debt snowball, for example, because I’ve seen its power in my own life, and heard how successful others have been in using it. Other techniques that I’ve used in my own quest for debt elimination include:
- Keep your goal in mind. My goal is to be debt-free by the time I turn 39 next spring. This is the most important thing in my life right now, and it influences everything I do. Sure I make mistakes along the way, but I don’t let them get me down. I remain fixated on my goal.
- Boost your income. This is the most-neglected technique for achieving big financial goals. If you want to save a large sum of cash quickly, you must make sacrifices. You’re going to have to find a second job, or work longer hours at your current job. You may have to sell some of your stuff, or learn to make money from your hobbies.
- Be patient. Persevere. Progress can seem slow at first, but will accelerate with time. Things will get easier. You’ll learn new techniques. You may receive support from unexpected sources. Together, these things will help to accelerate your success.
How well do these methods work? In just over three years, I will have paid off $30,000 in debt and begun to fund my Roth IRA. Yes, I’ve made sacrifices — especially my free time — but you know what? I don’t care. It feels great to finally be licking my debt, to have taken control of my financial life.
I used to be skeptical that this sort of thing was possible. It seemed to me that success stories like these applied to other people, but not to me. Now that I’m approaching the end of my own personal finance success story, I’ve changed my mind. I believe that anyone can save for big goals if they’re focused enough, if they understand that every penny counts.
[New York Times: Every Penny Counts]
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August 6th, 2007 at 6:31 am
I find that the “every penny counts” mind-set works best when I apply it to more than just budgeting, and build in rewards along the way. I’m working on a dissertation, so I discipline myself to write at least x number of paragraphs a day, and let myself do something else (usually related, but not always) when that goal is met; when I clean up the house, I do it in discrete tasks that I mark off a list, all day long rather than exhausting myself with it all at once, and read or generally goof off in between. There are some days that I dedicate purely to goofing off, but for the regular 6-day workweek, this is how i get through every day without feeling like I’m beaten down by my work.
August 6th, 2007 at 8:27 am
“Gazelle intensity” is all well and good, but snowballing debts? Ramsey himself knows that the snowball method doesn’t make mathematical sense and the only reason he recommends it is because getting out of debt is 20% math and 80% behavior…
… but if you are gazelle-intense, you already have the 80% behavior part! Why can’t you pay off the debts in the most mathematically efficient manner? Ramsey uses the snowball method so you get mini feelings of satisfaction as you pay off your smallest debts leading up to the big ones. If you truly are gazelle-intense… why bother? You have the willpower to destroy the debt that is hurting you most. The small victories come when the amount of new interest you owe becomes less and less, that’s all you need if you are truly “gazelle-intense”.
You guys are reading a personal finance blog, do you really need those small victories in the beginning to understand that “yes, I want to be debt free,” and “yes, it is in fact possible”? If I ever got into debt, knowing what I know now, I would not do the snowball. If I ever got to the point where I said, “ENOUGH, I want to be debt free.” Then I would GET debt free… the fastest way possible (hint: not the snowball way).
And do you need to scale back your lifestyle so much that you forgo $100, $200, or even $500 per YEAR small luxuries that make life a little bit nicer as you save for those big purchases? Scale back, yes… eliminate? Not worth it. Buy used, make your own (much better) coffee, get a DS instead of a Wii (great resale value as well). This is assuming that these things will bring a small amount of joy to your life.
This is not to pooh-pooh this post, everybody’s different so different strokes, etc. Just adding a viewpoint that I’m sure others are itching to share.
(Disclaimer: I listen to Dave Ramsey every day just to listen to the success stories and horror stories.)
August 6th, 2007 at 8:28 am
I agree with the importance of perserverance and goals. Now that I’ve paid off my debt it feels great to be reaping the rewards after all the little sacrifices. I’m excited to focus on the next big goal, which is saving for a house. What worked for me was keeping track of every penny I spent for a few months (no budgeting), then creating a realistic budget based on that, and then sticking to it for several years, adjusting as necessary. If I made a mistake and overspent, I didn’t beat myself up, I just got back on track as soon as possible. Also, paying myself first and saving for known expenses helped — like creating a Santa Saver fund for Christmas presents, since it was important to me to be generous with my friends and family, without needing to charge anything. Thanks for the great article.
August 6th, 2007 at 8:46 am
totally agree here; right now we are saving to buy a new car (don’t want to take a loan for it), and so are applying this to many things we do/buy.
August 6th, 2007 at 8:59 am
You make some good points, but even on paper the snowball method is not much slower than the mathematically optimal method. And because the snowball method does provide quick psychological payoffs, the person using it has a greater chance of succeeding. Remember: if people actually made rational mathematical decisions, they wouldn’t be in debt in the first place. I know from experience that the debt snowball method works. (But, as you say, it’s not the optimum choice mathematically.)
Actually your comment goes to the heart of “behavioral finance”, which is a subject that I finally read about on vacation (after the prompting of several regular readers). Behavioral finance is a branch of economics that studies why people make the decisions they make. Why don’t they do things that are in their best interest? Why do they make seemingly stupid choices? I’ll be posting a review of this book in the next couple weeks. You may find it interesting.
August 6th, 2007 at 9:02 am
When you say debt-free, does this include your house?
August 6th, 2007 at 9:20 am
The “every penny” approach works well, I think, because you can congratulate yourself on every little positive action along the way. Even if the ultimate goal is far away, you can feel good about the little steps, and that is reinforcement to make more of them.
August 6th, 2007 at 9:50 am
Friends, the real problem is that most of compulsive consumer try constantly to seek and gain approval from others throw objects. The problem, then, is lack of caracter and personality. Do a favor to yourself, try every day that people love you for your´s spiritual strenghs,not for your material weakness..
Respect yourself…
Sorry for my awful english..,
August 6th, 2007 at 11:04 am
Goals and perseverance are great. But there was a certain attitude in this piece along the lines of, “To pay off your debt, you have to give up having a life.” I think the key is living well without spending a lot of money doing it, not retreating to your house every day to avoid spending money.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:25 am
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August 6th, 2007 at 11:29 am
@KM,
What you may not realize is that, while we are here reading a personal finance blog, and we are motivated to get out of debt, some of us (me) don’t like actually doing personal finance.
So yes, for people like me the little victories gained along the way are very helpful in keeping us focused and moving forward. Especially if we’ve fallen off the responsibility wagon a few times and need to keep climbing back up.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:50 am
The few seconds spent second-guessing an impulse buy can make all the difference. Great method for avoiding frivolous purchases =)
August 6th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
I wanted to figure out exactly how much of a difference it actually makes when you say “Do I want a latte or a house?”
I’m using my own numbers here, your numbers vary based on salary, housing cost, etc.
I go to work 3 days per week (I work two days per week at home). Every morning when I get to work I buy coffee and a pastry for breakfast from Starbucks. The average cost for this is $3.60. Let’s say I do this 49 weeks/year (I get three weeks of paid vacation).
That comes out to $529.20/year ($44.10/month). That’s not an insignificant amount to spend on coffee, but how much faster does it help me buy a home?
Let’s say I am currently able to put away $1000/month (because that’s roughly accurate for me, personally.)
Let’s also say that I can buy a single family home for $650,000 (because I live in the San Francisco bay area, and that’s how much homes here cost.)
Let’s say that inflation doesn’t exist, because it makes my calculations easier. For the purposes of this exercise. the cost of my home and my coffee, as well as my salary and the amount I’m saving every month, all follow inflation (I think this works out fine in the math, let me know if I’m wrong).
Let’s assume I can make 7% on my investments (remember, everything’s being calculated with inflation already factored in, so this is more like 8-9% in the real world).
So, if I want to purchase my home outright, I have to save $650,000. If I want to put down a 20% down payment, I need to save $130,000.
Here’s some math (this is probably nowhere close to the standard accounting way of doing this, I’m not an accountant, I’m a computer programmer. The values should still be correct. Let me know if they’re not.)
annual interest rate = i (7%, or 0.07)
number of months = n
savings after n months = s(n)
monthly amount saved = x ($1000.00 if I’m buying coffee, $1044.10 if I’m not)
s(1) = x
s(n) = s(n-1) * (1 + i/12) + x, for n > 1.
So, using $1000/month of savings, I’ve saved $130,000 after 98 months (oh god, over 8 years to save the down payment?).
If I give up my coffee, I’ve saved $130,000 after 94 months.
So, when saving for a down payment, I either give up 7 years and 9 months of breakfast at starbucks (note that this actually means I just don’t eat breakfast at all - I didn’t account for buying other, cheaper food in the morning instead), or I give up 4 months of home ownership.
What if I want to pay for the home outright?
270 months (22.5 years) with coffee, or 264 months (22 years exactly) without.
Coffee doesn’t really seem to make that big of a difference. If I can find 3 or 4 or 5 coffee priced things to eliminate, then it starts to be appreciable, which I guess is where “every penny counts” comes from, but there are only so many coffee-priced indulgences in any one person’s life, and if you enjoy coffee, then going without for almost 8 years might be a more significant loss to you than a couple months of home ownership.
J.D. or others, what do you think? Thanks for reading my thoughts.
August 6th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
@Tyler Karaszewski: Nice point. Your calculations are fine but you did them “the hard way” you can use excel (or any financial calculator) do the math for you (name of the funcion is NPER (in 2007 version).
J.D and Tyler: I wrote an article with my own opinion about every penny saving. It oposes to Tyler’s point. In a nutshell I present a “multiplier” tool which will help you justify saving on your daily coffee. Please let me know if you want the link. (I can send it privately to avoid a spam-like comment)
August 6th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
In my experience, it was never just a latte vs. coffee at home. The latte represented a lot of little items I was spending money on without realizing it.
Once I started tracking what I actually spent money on, I could put it all in perspective and set reasonable and attainable goals that fit my lifestyle. My budget always includes miscellaneous and dining out money, but these are choices I’ve made, not purchases that sneak up on me.
My quality of life has not suffered because, having set financial goals, I always know what I’m working towards. I *decide* if I want to go out to dinner or put extra money in an index fund — but the key is that I’m aware of the consequences. Sure, at first it was hard to cut back cable, but when I realized I was only watching 4 channels it made sense. Also, used books are just as fine as new books - and then there’s always the library. Little choices add up.
I appreciate the perspective in this article because it’s about people making choices and working towards their goal, however they think is best.
August 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
@Tyler
I think the $44 a month is a much bigger factor for those who are trying to pay off credit card debt, and not in a position to be saving ANY money each month, let alone $1000 per month.
Using this Calculator:
Let’s say you have $2000 in credit card debt (@16% interest). At the end of the month, you have $50 left to pay off this card. At that rate, it will take you 57 months to pay the card off.
Now take the same card and balance, but cut out the lattes. At $94 / month, you will now pay the card off in 26 months.
If you can find another minor expense to cut out, and gain another $44 a month, then you will cut your payback time down to 17 months.
For those with zero credit card debt and $1000 a month to put towards a savings account, $44 a month isn’t going to be a big deal. But I would argue that for most people caught in the credit card debt trap, it can be huge.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
@Tyler: Not having enough money for a down payment from lack of savings and lack of discipline means finding another method of personal finance that works. One of those methods is to cut back drastically on all spending. The latte’ is an example, not a means. Add to your spreadsheet the cost of dining out, entertainment and other miscellaneous items that can be eliminated or substituted with a less expensive alternative and you’ll see a bigger impact.
August 6th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
I think the other half to
“Make every penny count”
is
“Make it Automatic”
You can start stock piling your spare change, but my husband and I really see dividends when we make automatic repayments into an online (hard to access) savings account.
For instance, you might have a scheduled transfer that already puts $100 each pay into your savings account. If you spend a month kicking the latte habit, you should have an extra $30 a week. So add an extra $30 to that automatic transfer.
By doing this, we’re now saving a bit more than half our combined income - and we’ve saved a 20%house deposit in just under a year.
August 6th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Tyler, your point about the worthiness of the latte factor is pretty much accurate for those of us trying to create money rather than destroy debt.
However, the basic point still stands: do your best to eliminate costs, or at least justify their needs: No, not lattes.
Storage rooms at $80 a month.
The $50 gym membership you never use.
The landline @ $60.
Scale back Netflix to $15.
And etc…
That’s $200 a month. Now you are down to just 85 months.
BTW: everybody factors inflation out of the 10% average, but it’s already been factored out. It’s 10% post-inflation.
August 6th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
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August 6th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
My wife and I are starting to understand this concept alot lately. I quit my job to finish school in May so we are living solely on her income right now. I have been looking for work, but no leads have came through. Our boys birthdays are in August and we don’t want to skimp on them so we have had to scale back our own personal spending quite a bit.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
The latte factor has been huge for us in beginning to manage our finances in just getting us to live within our means. My husband and I both worked in retail where lunch break ussually meant going to the food court. By bringing our lunches we started saving a lot of money each month. ($5 per day per person x 24 = $240) We had never spent much at the coffee shops because we are very picky about coffee (my first job was at a coffee shop 15 years ago and it still iritates me to spend $3.50 on a drink that does not meet my critera) so we brew or make our own. It seems hard at first,but we also made other adjustments such as going for walks or bike rides instead of shopping. We would feel better later and so would our bank account. It’s not just the coffee that makes the difference, that is just one item that a lot of people spend money on which makes it an easy target when talking about one way to save money. The mindset of change is where the difference happens.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:40 am
Agree wholeheartedly Kaz - automating the process works beautifully. We ‘drip’ $10.00 per day from our bank account onto our mortgage, on top of the default fortnightly repayment (together with any extra residue left at the end of a pay cycle, surprise lump sums, tax refunds etc). Like water on stone, the debt is steadily eroding. All up we are on track to be mortgage free by the time our little 9 month old girl starts primary school.
I’d add to that the bog standard concept of actually setting a definite goal - i.e. to save $X by X date, clear a mortgage in five years etc. I used to think this was rot, but have found it works treat, keeps your focus sharp, and more often than not you kick the goal earlier than the target.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:29 am
Once you are out of high interest debt, I think the latte thing is just a mindset. There are lots of areas where you can spend without it adding a lot of value to your life.
I spend about £9-£12 a month (approx $18-$24) on magazines. Really I should stop doing so, because they don’t add that much value to my life. I also buy my lunch every day - I could spend less than half the amount if I made it at home instead.
If you are already saving a lot of money, each one thing doesn’t make that much difference. On the other hand, if you do it with everything - including the big things as well as the little things - then it can mount up into a big difference. I could probably save an extra 40% a month if I tried hard.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:09 am
I dont think the latte idea is not entirely about being frugal. It is about being thoughtful about how you spend your money. If you really enjoy a cup of joe every morning from your local shop then that is fine. It is just that there are so many tiny things that we become oblivious to spending that slowly add up. I personally believe in living simple. Don’t become to frugal where you don’t enjoy life, but also remain perceptive about what exactly you need to enjoy it.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Miracle,
I agree. Both my husband and I have a ’sanity allowance’ (read more from Anita Bell if you’re interested). Mine gets spent on the occasional work lunch, or a foodie magazine.
My husband uses his for his morning coffee break at work - and that’s worth it for him.
August 31st, 2007 at 5:01 am
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August 31st, 2007 at 7:22 am
I’m not saving up for a “big” thing in some ways. However, I had some personal goals. I wanted to have at least 3 months worth of living expenses in a savings account & to open an IRA. I also wanted a $600 item.
My deal with myself was that, once I hit the other two goals AND saved the money for the item on top of that, I could get it for myself.