Ask the Readers: How Do You Manage Health Care Costs When You’re On Your Own? Print
Friday, 17th August 2007 (by J.D.)This article is about Ask the Readers, Health & Fitness
Sometimes reader questions force me to learn about aspects of personal finance that are outside my realm of experience. For example, I don’t deal directly with health insurance. We’re covered under my wife’s plan, and I’ve never had to think about it before. But insurance is a pressing issue for many people. New reader Eric writes with his predicament:
My wife and I are both self-employed — we value the freedom to continue working for ourselves above all else. Therefor, we view living expenses as evil and always to be controlled.
Topping our list of expenses is this seemingly unmanageable, irreducible item: health care. Our combined monthly insurance premium is just shy of $900, to which we add a separate premium for dental coverage, and a variety of co-pays and deductibles. Even though we’re both young and reasonably healthy, our health care costs exceed what we pay for rent, car insurance, and gasoline combined.
Can anyone offer advice about managing household health care costs? (”Clean living” and “no children” are already on our list.)
I can’t answer this question from personal experience. However, as I was writing about personal finance magazines yesterday, I stumbled upon a recent Kiplinger’s article about finding health care coverage when you’re on your own. In the August 2007 issue, Kimberly Lankford writes:
Buying affordable health insurance is more complicated if you don’t have coverage through your employer. But the truth is that most people can find coverage on their own. And that’s the case even if you’re in a tough situation — you have a medical condition, for example, or you want to retire early and aren’t eligible for Medicare.
Lankford profiles five people without insurance and recommends techniques for them to find coverage while keeping costs low. Some of her suggestions include:
- Seeking part-time employment — if only temporarily — can be a smart way to obtain health insurance. Policies vary from state-to-state and company-to-company. If you really need coverage, consider this option.
- If, like Eric, you’re self-employed, you may be able to obtain group rates for health insurance through various trade or professional organizations.
- Take advantage of COBRA, which provides continuing health coverage for up to eighteen months after you leave your job. COBRA is only available under certain circumstances, but it’s certainly worth checking out if it’s available to you.
- To keep premiums low, increase your deductible. In essence, do what many experts recommend for auto and home insurance: self-insure by establishing a specific savings account devoted to covering your deductible when needed. Think of this as a sort of narrowly-focused emergency fund. Two of the people Lankford profiles chose a $5,000 deductible in order to keep their costs down.
- Explore health savings accounts. These new plans work with high-deductible health plans in order to reduce costs. Like an IRA, a health savings account is not something you purchase; it’s a tax-advantaged account used for medical expenses. In essence, this is a formalized means of self-insuring, as mentioned above.
- Shop around. Don’t settle for the first plan that meets your needs. Lankford recommends using eHealthInsurance to compare policies. To find an insurance broker, she suggests the National Association of Health Underwriters.
To learn more, especially about finding coverage if you have a pre-existing condition, read Lankford’s entire article.
What about you? Do you have experience finding health insurance on your own? What advice can you offer? What pitfalls should Eric avoid? Do you have any tips for making his search easier?

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August 17th, 2007 at 5:32 am
When my wife and I decided to simultaneously go into self-employment, we faced this daunting issue. I fully expected to rely on COBRA for a while. Yet I found that health insurance rules vary dramatically by state. Where I live (New Hampshire) there is a concept of a “one-person group,” providing a potential purchaser of health insurance additional options not available elsewhere. Find out what the rules are in your state. Another tip - when I first started calling health insurance companies directly, I learned (again, at least in my state) that I’d get the same premium rate buying direct as I would using an insurance broker, yet the broker was able to help me find the ideal policy and carrier. Personally, I am often not usually a fan of middlemen, but since there was no cost to me and the person added some value (in the form of a more appropriate and affordable policy than I was about to get on my own), it proved to be a wise move and may be for others as well.
August 17th, 2007 at 5:48 am
Given that Eric and his wife are young, generally healthy, and currently spending more than $10,000 (possibly closer to $12,000 by the time you factor in copays, deductibles, etc.), they would almost certainly save money by using a high-deductible plan in combination with a Health Savings Account.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:11 am
I second (or third or fourth) the high-deductible approach. I would set the highest deductible you can and then save and set aside that much money in an emergency fund.
Before anyone else says “move to Canada” I would point out that the increase in your income taxes would probably more than offset the reduction in your health care costs. My income tax doubled when I moved to Canada from the States. When I was self-employed in the US I had major-medical health insurance that cost less than $200/month so I definitely didn’t save any money by moving to Canada! Furthermore Canada’s health plan doesn’t cover dental so you still have to pay for your own dental insurance. Some employers provide it but not all.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:24 am
I was recently faced with a dilemma when my boss dropped our health insurance coverage at work. After a long investigation, I ended up going the high deductible HSA route. I have a policy with Golden Rule/ United Healthcare with a $2850 deductible. The max annual contribution to the HSA is the equivalent of the deductible ($2850 for individuals.) You can deduct all contributions to the HSA from your income taxes, just like an IRA.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:43 am
I went off of my parents insurance when I finished my undergraduate degree. I proceeded to *finally* find a job relatively in my field that only paid $6 per hour and did not provide any health insurance. COBRA cost me over $350 per month. You can’t change it to a more basic plan –you’re stuck with the full cost of whatever your coverage was plus 2%. It’s *crippling* to anyone who was at the bottom end of the payscale to start with.
If you *are* at the bottom end of a payscale, I recommend looking into whether your state provides something like NY does. “HealthyNY” (http://www.ins.state.ny.us/website2/hny/english/hny.htm) was designed to try to cover lower income working people who did not get insurance through their jobs, or, small businesses who wanted insurance but couldn’t afford it. I was going to go that route when I finally wound up with health insurance elsewhere.
Alternately, look into whether your state has something like Family Health Plus. Again, it’s meant to be a stop-gap to help those who don’t qualify for Medicaid. I haven’t looked into the full differences between that & HealthNY. There’s also Child Health Plus here. If you were really on the edge, you could only cover your children I suppose.
Lastly, some professional organizations will provide a group health insurance option. It’s usually not a *great* deal, but, it’s something. My soon-to-be mother-in-law gets her insurance through a professional writers organization.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:48 am
One thing I forgot to add is that my monthly premium is only $108.00.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:49 am
RENT?! Purchase a home. Purchase a home. Wasting money on rent is insane. I stopped there. Good luck with the insurance thing.
August 17th, 2007 at 7:20 am
Depending on where they live, they might want to look into the Freelancers Union. (http://www.freelancersunion.org/)
August 17th, 2007 at 7:54 am
No one else is likely to say it. So I will. I sincerely hope that Eric will consider lobbing his congressman about the need for health insurance reform in the country.
Yes, yes, I know what people will say. “More government regulation is not the answer.” It is the great American contradiction that we have a wonderful legacy of personal independent spirit but we allow ourselves to be held hostage by corporations who have no qualms about legistlating dependence. A few less dollars arming foreign nations, and a few more dollars having healthing citizens is not going to destroy the American dream.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:06 am
I recently had to get my own medical insurance. I used ehealthinsurance.com and got a great high-deductible plan for $88/mo WITH dental. I am healthy so I only need catastrophic coverage.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:09 am
I have friends who found groups they could join–some through an alumni association; one through the Modern Language Association (for teachers and other language professionals, but anyone can join–my friend was not a teacher).
August 17th, 2007 at 8:53 am
The cost of health insurance varies A LOT by location. I was startled to discover how much more I have to pay because I live in Los Angeles.
We figured out that we only go to the doctor once per year for an annual check-up. By opting for a high deductible PPO plan that “allows” one physical per year (but no maternity–I’m beyond that stage and no prescription–but we don’t take drugs anyway), we are actually saving a lot of money. The deductible is in a savings account working for us. For the two of us, with life insurance, we pay about $275 per month. We get the benefit of a negotiated doctor rate without the high insurance premium.
By the way, this plan is almost identical to the insurance plan we had when I was employed by a major university in the midwest (including my monthly premium). And that was the best of the insurance options they gave to us!
If you’re healthy, you probably only need catastrophic medical insurance.
Julie
PS: I agree that self-employment is very liberating
PSS to Maggie: Buying a house is a money pit. Renting makes more sense. Read this GRS post for more information on why it is smart to rent: http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/16/renting-vs-buying-the-realities-of-home-buying/
August 17th, 2007 at 9:09 am
With so many insurance companies finding ways to retroactively cut benefits once you get sick, I’m not sure what the big fuss is about. To me, it’s a complete scam and like protection money that doesn’t really work to protect you or your family. Learn how to take care of your own health without it. There are plenty of alternative treatments that work as good or better than anything conventional medicine can produce. Use a HSA if it makes you feel better, but don’t give the insurance companies your money. They won’t honor any agreements in the end. You end up getting treatment you think is paid for only to find out that you are going to pay for it in the end. I can get exams etc. cheaper using no health insurance than using a health insurance plan and a co-pay. Having health insurance is no guarantee that you can afford care - it’s a total illusion. And, once you are upfront with your health care people that they can’t get anymore money from you than is currently in your bank account, suddenly the prices seem to magically drop. Scam, scam, scam, scam…
August 17th, 2007 at 9:31 am
You didn’t note what their self-employment includes. They should reset their pricing so that they cover the increased medical insurance premiums.
Brad: I’m not sure when you moved from one country to another, but Canada now has personal income tax rates on par or lower than in the US. Rates have dropped dramatically in the past several years. THe first $9,000 of Canadian income is tax-free. The amount between that and about $38,000 is 15.5%. The amount between there and $74k is 22%. The amount between there and $121k is 26%.
In comparison, US tax is 10% on the first $7800. 15% on the amount between that and $32k. 25% on the amount up to $75k. And 28% on the amount up to $160k. So the average US federal tax payer is paying MORE.
Canada also offers a bunch of tax credits / transfers. And Canada does not add a self-employment tax.
So your net tax in Canada is now lower than in the US. Not so a few years ago, though.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:04 am
I agree with most of the above, and as my wife and I are both self-employed, we were in a similar situation. Before we got stuck in a 900/month premium, we started asking around for tips and tricks to bring it down. There were three things that helped.
First, the high deductable, second, HSA with enough funds to cover the max out of pocket ceiling on the insurance, and third, we both got seperate insurance accounts. Turns out that mine is cheaper solo because I don’t need maternity or gyno types of coverage.
Mid-thirties, married, no kids, self-employed and we are paying around 250 a month, in Los Angeles, which includes dental.
August 17th, 2007 at 10:16 am
I’ve done this myself. A few things others haven’t mentioned:
- Check your state Insurance Commissioner’s (or equivalent) website. Insurance is regulated by the states, so your state will likely provide information on how to get individual insurance. Many states also provide an insurance pool for low-income folks, so that /may/ be an option too.
- If possible, once you’ve got insurance, don’t let it lapse. If leaving a job, do COBRA while you research cheaper options, etc. In our state, my family history alone would put us in the “high-risk pool” - but if we already have coverage, then they don’t even look at family history, existing conditions, etc.
For us, maintaining health coverage is worth dipping into the emergency fund.
August 17th, 2007 at 11:30 am
Leave the country. You *did* say “When You’re On Your Own”.
I lost my parents’ coverage January 1, left to teach English in Taiwan February 2. Now I have cheap, national healthcare coverage. If Taiwan’s not your bag, no worries. The US is the *only* developed country without national healthcare.
Maybe not an option for those who are married or want to keep a job where they currently live, but something to consider.
Many international corporations have high-paying foreign positions that they’re unable to fill. And if you telecommute/work online, location shouldn’t matter all too much. I know someone who owns websites and lives here for the low living expenses and nice environment. It doesn’t affect his coordination with the Estonian programmers coding his sites.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
Andrea, that would be true if Canadians only paid federal tax, but as you know the provincial income taxes are substantial and can be even higher than the federal. That’s the case in Quebec, where my combined federal and provincial income tax rate is about 52 percent. And that really is about double what I was paying in combined federal and state income tax when I was living in the US.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
I had to do this for a year when I deluded myself into thinking I’d like being and independent contracter in sales. But my plan was only $99 per month, with a $2500 deductable. I can’t imagine $900 every month…that’s just insane. I hate insurance companies just like anyone else, but I think it’s bad financial advice to say you don’t need it, just be healthy and use alternative medicine. What if your appendix ruptures? What if you are in an auto accident and are rushed to the emergency room. I read about one woman who got bitten by a snake, and $45,000 in medical expenses later, she sure was thankful for insurance.
I know I don’t have that kind of money laying around. BUT, I think it’s wise to pay very close attention to your dealings with your insurance company, and keep really good records. I need to be better about that, too.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
My husband and I are in the process of trying to find our own insurance right now, too. In fact I just blogged about it a couple of days ago.
My biggest recommendation is to go through a knowledgeable insurance agent in your own state. Laws vary so much from state to state that if you just go with a policy you find online, you might find out that the policy is pretty much worthless when you need to use it.
August 17th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Write this down before you go shopping around for policies: You WILL pay more in health insurance premiums than you will get back in claims.
Once you understand this, it becomes obvious that paying for low-deductible policies doesn’t make any sense if you are healthy and have a low-risk job.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
I’m surprised that the article doesn’t mention eating, and excercising to *maintain* and even increase your level of health. I’m always shocked that people are willing to spend $1,000 on pills, doctors, and surguries but scoff at eating a bag of blueberries instead of a donut.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Zach,
I have actually never heard anyone scoff at eating a bag of blueberries instead of a donut. I /have/ heard people complain at work “breakfast meetings” and restaurants because fruit wasn’t available or because it was expensive.
-Jen
August 17th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Maybe it’s a girl thing
August 17th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Great article, and I’ve enjoyed most of the comments as well. This type of information is extremely valuable…I’ve bookmarked this so I can comb through all the links in depth a bit later.
Thanks again for a great article!
August 17th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
I live in Ontario. My total earnings were 66K last year; my net income after deductions, such as RRSP contributions for retirement, was about 55K. Federal and provincial tax combined was just over 11K, making my total tax rate 20% on net income and 16% on total earnings. Sales tax in 6% for the national GST and 8% for provincial taxes.
I get very, very good health care here, including a myomectomy last year and a colonoscopy this week, that I didn’t have to pay for directly. However, the Ontario health system does need more money, so I’m quite willing to pay more taxes to increase our access to MRIs, for example.
I’m 46 and will be paying $90/month as a self-employed person for a supplemental health plan that annually covers $8000 in drugs, $750 for physiotherapists and other paramedical services, $8500 for at home nursing and various medical supplies, including $225 for orthotics, up to $200/day for a private hospital room, and $3000 accidental dental, about $700 for psychological care, plus a few more little things. And I can deduct my $1080 annual premiums from my taxes: combined with the money I save on drugs, physio, etc., my annual cost for supplemental health insurance approaches $0.
So while the Canadian system isn’t perfect, the combination of less than onerous taxes, health care that is damn solid, if not outstanding, in almost every way, and a variety of flexible supplemental insurance packages hat don’t cost the earth, make me feel a LOT more secure than I would if I lived in the States.
The one thing I would recommend is to really assess where you expect to spend your health dollars. At my age, I know I’m looking at an increased risk of cancer or other degenerative diseases over the next couple of decades, so I chose a custom package that maxed out what I could get in drug coverage. I skipped everything but accidental dental because I take good care of my teeth and can afford the $400 or so for my cleaning and checkups. Avoid omnibus packages if you can.
August 17th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Brad:
Quebec’s top combined fed-prov tax rate is 48% for income above $121k. For California, the combined fed-state tax would be 37%. In BC, you’d be paying 40.1%. But the BC and Quebec marginal rates don’t kick in at those levels until a higher income level than in California.
Someone earning $74k in Canada is paying 42%. But a Californian is paying 33%. And a British Columbian is paying 33%.
If you then add in all the fed/provincial transfers and credits, the British Columbian or even the high-taxed Quebecker is still ahead. And the Canadians are getting more heavily subsidized education, health, childcare and family benefits.
As for consumer taxes, I’m always stymied by what I have to pay when I cross into WA state. Municipal, county and state taxes? Yikes!
August 17th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
I should add that you may have been paying a whopping tax amount in Canada a few years ago. But it’s not the case now.
August 17th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
My graduate school has health insurance for students. It costs less than my work benefit, though I do not know how the coverage compares yet.
August 17th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Here’s a good article on why not having health insurance can cut costs: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20097458/ . See, once you have health insurance, the doctors/hospitals charge the maximum and more for anything they do. If the insurer then refuses to pay, you get stuck with the bill - a bill you weren’t even able to negotiate because you thought the insurance would pay. The time to reduce the costs is BEFORE you are billed as well as afterwards. If you are not insured, you naturally ask what it costs upfront. If you are insured, you get taken for a ride on costs and more. Harvard did a study that showed that a great number of people went bankrupt due to medical losses AND they had insurance. It almost seems a high risk to carry an insurance plan these days….
I had an optometrist who asked if i had a plan that covered eye care. I said “no” and the price dropped by about $40 for the visit.
August 17th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
If you are a Christian, consider Samaritan Mninistries or similar programs. Our large family (8 kids) has very good coverage with a low deductible for $248/month.
This is not traditional insurance but is very similar and it is very well organized with plenty of oversight to make sure that it works the way it should. Our claims have been paid without any problems and we like the personal touch of receiving notes and cards from those who contribute toward our bills.
August 18th, 2007 at 2:31 am
I guess that’s handy when bringing in the crops….
Anyway, I think people get into a mindset of trying to charge everything they can to their insurance, whether it’s homeowners, health, car, whatever. This is guaranteed to raise your premiums. The same with low deductibles.
We pay out of pocket for our dental (wife and I are both self-employed) because the two checkups each per year are the same cost as the insurance would be, and if we need any extra work, the coverage wouldn’t be that great anyway. Plus there is some relief at tax-time…
On medical, we have decent plans, but, again, pay our way on normal checkups and the like, plus we have a high deductible.
You should view insurance as “catastrophe coverage,” not something that you use every time you can.
(In some cases, dinging your insurance can be disastrous–a friend had a water leak in his kitchen and used his insurance to claim it. They paid out but subsequently dropped him, and because he was entered into the “water damage” database he found he could not obtain insurance from anyone other than Lloyds in some high-risk class, which cost him more every two months than simply paying out of pocket for the repair would have.)
And talk of higher taxes vs. nationalized medicine is uneducated. You pay more via private insurance (or your employer does, which you pay indirectly) than residents of civilized countries pay in increased taxes.
August 18th, 2007 at 4:21 am
Sorry to have started a debate on Canadian healthcare system in this thread
Andrea wrote Quebec’s top combined fed-prov tax rate is 48% for income above $121k.
Okay, maybe it dropped, because when I first moved here five years ago it was 52%. I earn quite a bit more than $121K so I’m taxed at the highest rate, plus the combined sales tax here comes to 15 percent. I think for those of us in Quebec the tax burden is harder to swallow because access to healthcare is difficult due to the shortage of doctors and healthcare workers; my girlfriend had to wait three months for a routine x-ray and five months to see a specialist to diagnose a problem that was throwing her into the emergency room every few weeks. After living in the States most of my life I’d have to say I’ve not been impressed so far with the educational or healthcare system here, but the story may be quite different in other provinces. I’m perfectly willing to pay high taxes and I support the principle of socialized healthcare, my point was just that people who consider moving to Canada because they think it’ll be cheaper to live without paying health insurance have to also consider that they are still paying for healthcare, just through their taxes, and that that their taxes will be higher than what they paid in the US. At lower income levels the differences aren’t so great.
August 18th, 2007 at 10:55 am
I used ehealthinsurance.com and in two weeks, I had a low-premium ($58/month), high deductible ($1200)policy with Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield. They pay 80% of the costs after the deductible.
I combined that with a health savings account from the Bancorp Bank in order to save and hold my deductible amount, as well as have extra money there to draw from when i get physicals and other treatments that cost less than the $1200 deductible.
I am 28 and in good health, so I mainly needed coverage for catastrophic, really expensive costs.
If you’re young and healthy, you could probably get a better policy on your own and for less money, than you would from your employer.
Low premium/ high deductible/HSA. The way to go.
August 18th, 2007 at 11:28 am
Zach and JenK — donuts vs. blueberries: You’re both right.
Zach’s right — people love their donuts and Americans adore stuffing themselves with sugar, preservatives, lard, etc. instead of eating fresh and natural.
Jen’s right — professional, educated women probably eat healthier than any other category of American, so that’s the group likely to want fruit at a breakfast meeting rather than a deep fried pastry
August 18th, 2007 at 11:39 am
I was actually sued for a medical bill when I DID have insurance. It was under my mother and was “free” (as in employer paid 100%) with very low deductibles,etc. I went to a doctor right before I turned 23. They didnt bill things right ( I guess) and I lost the insurance soon after. I never even considered COBRA at the time since I had no income. I ended up paying the bill, but because I didn’t know any better I also got a judgment that will show on my credit for 7 years.
I just read an article the other day about a woman with cancer who had to file bankruptcy because she was sued by ( and let go as a patient) her doctors because Blue Cross Blue Shield never paid the bills. And in this situation the woman paid for coverage that was supposed to cover this specific treatment.
When you are dealing with insurance companies and medical providers, it seems that you don’t get what you pay for.
I am thinking the main reason to have insurance is to hedge against financial ruin. its the catastrophic things that ruin people, not the $100 occasional doctor visit. A big part of the problem is too many people expect “insurance” to pay for emergency treatment of colds, etc.
However, even then you could be paying hundreds of dollars and still endup filing Bankruptcy or otherwise be ruined because the insurance company decides not to pay and/or the medical providers dont abide by the agreements,etc.
I am self-employed myself. I am considering actually finding a job for the sole purpose of getting insurance and then quitting and paying COBRA. It’s sad, but that’s how it is. I feel like conning myself into some job just long enough for that. otherwise, there is really no other reason for me to consider traditional employment. I have also thought about getting 2-3 jobs, with one for money and another just for “benefits.”
Something is wrong with the way healthcare is employer-dependent. Sure, some “reform” is needed. But universal taxpayer-funded $0 deductible “insurance” is not the answer.
August 18th, 2007 at 11:40 am
Yet sadly if blueberry donuts were offered at the typical breakfast meeting, they’d be the last ones taken or worse–they’d be thrown away upon adjournment.
August 18th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Zach,
I think the reason the article didn’t mention diet and exercise is that they aren’t really relevant to the discussion of health insurance. Although they promote health in and of themselves, diet and exercise are NOT substitutes for access to medical care.
August 19th, 2007 at 11:02 am
I had an HSA for a while when my employer dropped all its insurance plans except Cigna, whose service was so awful that two of my doctors would not allow Cigna patients in the door. Literally: they wouldn’t let you pay in cash (’cause they knew most people can’t afford a serious medical bill) and they wouldn’t do business with anyone who was insured by Cigna.
The high-deductible HSA’s premium was the same as I would have had to pay for my employer’s PPO plan. The amount you can put into the health savings account in the first year was less than the deductible, so….god forbid you get sick or have an accident. But most annoying of all was that the institution that held the HSA was gouging me a large service fee every month, so instead of making money, my alleged investment was slowly but steadily seeping away.
As soon as my the state (my employer) offered plans with better insurors, I quit the HSA. Used the money in the account to pay uncovered health costs (dental work, glasses, copays) and, each time that happened, transferred the same amounts from my cash flow account into savings. What a rip! I don’t think I’d ever do another HSA…not unless the account could be held in my credit union.
Consider signing up as a student at your local community college or university. Many offer insurance that covers part-time students (in some, you have to enroll full-time in a program). Student health insurance is pretty bare-bones, but it’s better than nothing, and you can take some interesting courses in the process…or maybe work toward a new degree that will help your earning power. If you’re self-employed, the education cost may be deductible.
BTW: one good illness will indeed cost your insurance company as much as you’ve paid in. I got an emergency appendectomy for Christmas not long ago; when I saw what the insurance had paid, I realized the cost was almost exactly what I’ve paid out in healthcare premiums over the past 15 years in my job.
August 19th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
With regards to the post above that said people shouldn’t have insurance because it’s a scam and people are better off eating healthy and using alternative medicine - well, I used to think that way too. Last year I was diagnosed with Cancer, I’m only 39 and have always been healthy and taken care of myself. Needless to say I am immeasurably thankful, every day, that I had insurance through my employer. When I left that job I went on COBRA and never again will I think that being uninsured in this country is a good idea.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:24 am
Just a note
not sure if anyone will read this or not but most Americans refer to Universal Health care as socialist medicine (kudos’s to the republicans for that one) but the proper term is Single Payer System meaning that the government pays the bills. Socialist health care refers specificity to a single payer system in which the government bans all private health care. Currently only Canada and Cuba do this.
Note to Canadian readers, Every country in Europe offers universal health care side by side with a private system. While living in Germany I was with the public system. When we moved to Spain we took out private health care (which includes private hospitals etc) this in order to access English speaking Doctors.
The main negative to health care in Canada is the waiting lists. Private health care wouldn’t eliminate the waiting lists but it would mean anyone with benefits (meaning pretty much anyone with a job )would have access to private health care and much shorter waiting lists). As it stands the only way to avoid the lines ups is to leave Canada and pay for it privately.
Note to Americans: many Americans are discovering that there is an alternative to overpriced under coverage. India Thailand Singapore all offer top notch health care at a fraction of the price.
As an aside, take the debate (public vs private) and reverse it and it will fit in perfectly with the debates raging in Canada and the US. Americans against “socialist” health care and Canadians against privatizing OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan)