Bank of America Demonstrates How to Alienate Potential Customers
Published on - August 30th, 2007 (by J.D. Roth) Last month I shared stories of good customer service Kris and I have experienced recently. Sadly, this sort of thing seems to be the exception rather than the rule. Tim wrote to share a frustrating experience he had with Bank of America, the kind of thing The Consumerist covers all the time. Here’s his story:
My employer ran a promotional thing where if you completed a set of “healthy living” tasks, they gave you $25. When we got the $25, rather than being cash, check, or added to our paychecks, it was given to us in the form of a $25 pre-paid debit/credit card from Bank of America.
When my card arrived in the mail, it had the usual sticker across the front notifying me that I had to activate it before use. I attempted to activate it using the website listed on the sticker, but when I entered the last four digits of my SSN as requested, it told me that the authorization failed.
Giving up on the online activation, I called the number listed on the sticker instead. The automated phone activation also failed, so I was transferred to a live operator. The gentleman was quite helpful, and activated my card for me.
All seemed well and good, until a few days later when I attempted to use the card for exactly $25 and much to my confusion, it was denied. Thinking that perhaps the activation had somehow failed a third time, I called the number on the card again. The lady that I spoke with explained to me that my card was denied for “insufficient funds” because it only had $22.50 on it. Huh?!? When I explained that it was a $25 pre-paid card, and I this was my first and only attempt to use it, she told me that there had been a $2.50 “call fee.”
The only time I called in was to activate the card. During the call, there was never a notification that there would be any kind of fee associated with the call. When I asked the lady if that meant that this call would also result in a $2.50 fee, she replied “probably.” When I explained to her that there was never a notification of any fees, and I had only called in to activate the card, she essentially told me “tough cookies, this card has fees.”
It’s not as though I need the $5, but I have to say that I was extremely put off by Bank of America’s deceptive practices, excessive fees, and total disregard for customer satisfaction. If it is at all in my power, I will never do business with Bank of America in the future. What I don’t understand is how that kind of practice can possibly be legal?
This reminds me of gift cards with fees or expiration dates. I recently gave away our encyclopedia set for free on Craigslist. The man who picked up the books was so excited that he gave me a partially-used Blockbuster gift card. He didn’t know the balance, and when I researched it myself I learned:
- Blockbuster gift cards expire after two years of inactivity.
- There’s no way to check the balance from the web or by phone. You must go to a store to check the balance.
I eventually made it to a store, but it was a frustrating experience. I usually do business with companies that are easy to work with, so I’m not accustomed to those with policies that are customer-hostile. (To make matters worse, I used the gift card to buy The Godfather, a movie I already own! Growing old is the pits…)
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I just found out today that BoA charges a fee for Quicken to download your account balances automatically. I think that’s complete BS. They wanted me to sign up for a $9.99/mo plan JUST to check my balances! I don’t want bill pay through quicken or anything.
I just got this account a couple weeks ago, because I moved out east where there are no Wells Fargo ATMs. It worries me that I’m already running into unexpected fee roadblocks…
This may be a short-lived partnership.
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Drew, you can download your statements through their online interface, but for automatic syncing you have to pay unfortunately. It’s pretty horrible considering their competitors do this for their customers free of charge!
I also called them today and they told me that they do not disclose the finance charge in the daily/monthly breakdown. If you get paperless statements you need to download the statement to see what the finance chage for that month was. WaMu & CapitalOne has always included it in the daily breakdown where i don’t have to look far.
Our best bet is to email BoA and find out what they can do about making the senisble move of providing this service for free for its customers. It is one of my few complaints with this bank.
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I had an experience with BOA that I’d like to share. I initiated a balance transfer once for the amount of $27000(yes, 27K)and noticed that the amount didn’t make it to my bank in a week, two weeks and then for 3 weeks. I wouldn’t be so concerned but they actually deducted that amount already from my credit card. I initiated ‘research’ from both BOA and my E*Trade Checking account. BOA says that they sent the amount and E*Trade says they didn’t receive any amount. Finally it turned out that the associate who helped me with the balance transfer didn’t put in some information properly and the transaction didn’t go through. What was surprising is that it took over a dozen calls to BOA and 3 weeks time to resolve this. And while all this was happening, they happily deducted the amount from my credit card account.
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My CU is only about a mile from where I sit. There are two banks closer in distance but they are much further away in terms of fees and policies. The CU offers every sort of banking service I am likely to require … and skims less off the top.
Online banking is free. (I make cash deposits in their ATM and have not yet had a problem with it.) They made a SINGLE mistake with my checking account and fixed it within a couple hours of being notified. I can’t complain.
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Don’t forget besides getting hit with the atm fee you are using to pull your money (if its not a BoA atm) BoA will charge you $2 for not using one of their own atms which means that the penalty for not being able to locate one of their atm can run you anywhere from 3.50 to 4.00. When i calleded to complain they said they couldn’t reverse the charges and when i said i didn’t know about the stupid policy, the representative only cited examples from the past to make the point that i SHOULD have known about it, even though the $2 charge shows up in a very discreet manner on my bill.
some other banks offer free atm withdrawals, just one more thing that makes me consider moving my account.
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I have banked with Wachovia for 10+ years and have multiple accounts (checking, savings, mortgage) with them. I have always been very happy with their customer service and the benefits of my accounts up until this year. Both my husband and I have noticed a dramatic uptick in random fees this year. I called customer service again today and talked with a very helpful supervisor who I hope has solved the problem. Short story, I’m keeping less money in my accounts because we are paying off our unsecured debt this year (or we hope to) and as such started incurring fees for having a full service account but not keeping the required average balance. So yes my banking habits changed and it might be reasonable for the bank to change its behavior in response. But the problem is that I’ve talked with 4 or 5 different folks over the last 3 or 4 months and have not been able to get the problem fixed. I think the problem has finally been resolved (trick is to get the mortgage balance factored in, which more than one customer service rep said was impossible) but I’m still disappointed at the level of service I received. I should not have had to make so many calls to get matched up with the correct product.
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Someone else had mentioned that in some states, it is against the law for gift cards to have expiration dates or lose value after a certain time.
I just wanted to mention that as of August 1, 2007 Minnesota has joined that list so hoard your cards all you want!
Just a little tip for your Minnesota readers.
Thanks,
Jen
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Ahh, the question should be who hasn’t had a bad experience with BOA? In my case, they did resolve the issue quickly and with little hassle but the whole experience kinda turned me off. At 17, I opened a student checking account with BofA. It had an introductory monthly fee of $4.95 for the first six months after which it would stay a college student account but the fee would increase to $9.95 a month. For a while that was fine. Okay, now as a college student I wasn’t always keeping up with money or statements (doh!) but over a year later I noticed BOA was charging me around $20 a month. I was like huh? I called and they had moved me off my student checking account to the most expensive checking account they offered! They thought I had graduated from college! In less than two years? I wish! To be fair, I didn’t have to go to a bank with my student ID, they took care of it over the phone and refunded me the $240 immediately for the year I had been paying the highest checking account fee. In essence, they waived the checking account fee for a year for me. So good did come out of bad after all.
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[...] by banks — carry fees for various events. Some even charge to use the card. (In August, Tim shared how a gift card from Bank of America carried fees for checking the [...]
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I had banked with B of A since 1967, when I was in high school. Even worked there in the 80′s, and reached the level of Vice President in their Information Systems group.
About 7 years ago, I was trying to close on a house I had just purchased, and went to the B of A branch in my new town in Nevada (had just moved from California), only to be told that I had to go to a California branch in order to access the $750,000 I had on deposit needed to close on the sale!
Amazing, in this day and age, that you had to go to the state in which your account had been set up to access your funds in a multinational bank!
So I drove to California. The story there was, the branch manager wasn’t senior enough to sign a check for that amount. I had to sit in the office for 3 hours while they tried to figure out how to issue a Cashier’s check so I could make the deadline for closing on my house.
Needless to say, I closed out my account the next day and have never been back…
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American corporations are absolutely brazen in their fleecing of their customers. And it is so pervasive, it almost doesn’t pay to get upset over it anymore. I just cancelled a cell phone contract with Alltel. I called about 5 days before the end of my contract and was told I needed to call on the day of expiration, otherwise I would pay a fee. Well, on expiration day, I called to cancel and low and behold, their billing cycle starts on the 4th of every month and they would not prorate my cancelled month – I payed the entire month when I was using only a few days. If only one cell phone company, bank, utility etc would make good customer service their top priority… They would have the entire county as their customer.
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On Friday, June 20, 2008, I walked into the Parkland Branch Bank of America to make several deposits, cash a check and get my payroll out. The check that I was trying to cash was from a vendor who’d made the check out to my mother, who is a signer on my business account. She came into the back to sign the check and to show her identification.
The check was over the teller’s limit so she asked the Assistant Branch Manager, Song Degarmo, to assist her. She was asked to verify the check.
All I did was ask them to verify the check. The funds were good. The Assistant Branch Manager, Song Degarmo, explains to me that Bank of America no longer verifies funds over the phone. I ask to speak with the branch manager because I have been a customer of Bank of America for many years and they have always called to verify funds in situations such as this.
When the Branch Manager, Linda Morley, storms out her office with my check in her hand, she states, “It is obvious that we will not be able to provide you with the level of customer service that you would like. Your account is not entitled to any special treatment. I am closing your accounts.” And with that she storms over to the main doors, opens the doors and turns back to say, “Please Leave!”
Mind you, we are in the middle of the lobby and there are still customers all around. I still have yet to say anything to her. Quite frankly, I was confused on what prompted her to approach me in such a manner, and I was hugely embarrassed by her antics.
The Assistant Branch Manager, Song Degarmo, places her hand on my shoulder and pushed me towards the door. I stopped at the door, turned to the Linda Morley and ask, “Can you please explain to me what is going on? Why are you closing my account?” I was not hostile. I did NOT yell at her.
She says, “I don’t have to explain anything to you! I have the right to close an account for any reason. Please Leave. If you don’t leave I will call the police!”
I was almost in tears at this point. My mother was still there. It appeared as though Ms Morley was unreasonably hostile towards her, but that had nothing to do with me or my accounts. I said, “You have not even spoken to me and I am the primary signer on this account. I deserve an explanation as to why you are closing my account. I am not being hostile. I don’t deserve to be treated like this.”
“It is obvious that you are unaware as to how much we have bent over backwards to assist you. The bank is closed. Please leave.”
“I have been in line since 5:20. The bank closed before I got to the teller window. Are you saying to me that I am not entitled to the same customer service as everyone else simply because the bank closed while I was in line?”
“That is not what I said! You are putting words in my mouth!”
Again, Song Degarmo attempted to push me out the door. By this time, one of the other bankers was standing behind them as if she was going to forcibly remove me.
And so we left. I called the customer service number to find out why this happened. What did I do wrong? Why did she treat me like that? They said that the branch manager can shut down an account for any reason and that what she did cannot be overridden by anyone.
I have sat on the phone and poured my heart out to several customer service representatives, and spoken to supervisors of supervisors. The last one I spoke with, Tammy Wright said that she was sorry but the only thing she could offer me at this time was a sincere apology.
I spent Friday night in the emergency room because I had an anxiety attack that was brought about by this entire situation.
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@jmosley1901
Your experience should be reported to your state’s Department of Consumer affairs. Also, if you have a media watch dog (TV or newspaper), I’m sure they would love to hear your story.
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Similar BofA story that also caused me to decide never to bank with them again.
I was notified via letter that they had experienced a breach in security. I was applying for a mortgage and it was critical to protect my credit rating. To be on the safe side I decided to transfer my funds into new BofA checking and savings accounts and to close my existing savings, leaving the checking account open with enough in it to cover three outstanding checks. Then I was planning to close it, as well.
I did this in person with a teller, so the level of confusion should have been low, but somehow they transferred the balance of my old savings account out of my old checking account, and the balance of my old checking account out of my old savings account. This left my old checking account massively overdrawn as I keep a lot less in checking than in savings. The kicker is that after transferring the smaller amount out of my savings they then closed the old savings account with the remaining funds still in it. Why this didn’t strike them as odd is beyond me.
So I now had an overdrawn checking account and a very low balance in my savings account, with no way of getting to the bulk of my funds because the account had been closed.
Massive headaches ensued. I began receiving overdraft charges of $40 per returned check, $120 in total, leaving the account even more overdrawn. Trying to get them to reverse the closures and restore the funds was almost impossible. I had to leave work early several days in a row to handle it in person, and every time I thought it was fixed I would find that they had made yet another mistake.
They might have kept my business had they been extremely apologetic, but tellers and even branch managers were incredibly rude. One direct quote: “You’ve got a big old mess here and you can’t expect me to fix it when you’ve come in this late in the day.” Wait, “I” have a big old mess? Plus it was a full 20 minutes before closing and I had been waiting in line for quite a awhile before that.
After all of this, they fought me when I tried to get them to refund the overdraft fees.
I immediately went to Wahsington Mutual, and have been very, very happy with their service. So far no reduction in their service level under JP Morgan. I am treated as a valuable customer, not as an annoyance.
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