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		<title>By: Stop Planning: 50 Ways to Improve Your Finances Today &#124; On Money Making.com</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/09/13/drama-in-real-life-youre-fired/comment-page-2/#comment-140184</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Planning: 50 Ways to Improve Your Finances Today &#124; On Money Making.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fire the employee that&#8217;s doing nothing for your company but bleeding you for a monthly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick question, what do you think that employee should do if he really do not have a safety net to rely on? I have to ask this question because i am now in the same place as he was. I am also 21, i was just fired from my very first job as my boss said my first 3 months working for him did not give satisfactory result. And I am broke... i don&#039;t have a family to rely on. I don&#039;t have close friends either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question, what do you think that employee should do if he really do not have a safety net to rely on? I have to ask this question because i am now in the same place as he was. I am also 21, i was just fired from my very first job as my boss said my first 3 months working for him did not give satisfactory result. And I am broke&#8230; i don&#8217;t have a family to rely on. I don&#8217;t have close friends either.</p>
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		<title>By: Get Rich Slowly&#8217;s Greatest Hits (2007 Edition) ? Get Rich Slowly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Rich Slowly&#8217;s Greatest Hits (2007 Edition) ? Get Rich Slowly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: many a slip &apos;twixt cup and lip &#171; Relentless Inquiry</title>
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		<dc:creator>many a slip &apos;twixt cup and lip &#171; Relentless Inquiry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 17th, 2007 &#183; No Comments  Following links a couple of days ago, I found a really compelling and honest account of someone firing their employee. I didn&apos;t want to close the window, because one of the phrases was resonating so strongly with [...]</description>
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<p>[...] 17th, 2007 &middot; No Comments  Following links a couple of days ago, I found a really compelling and honest account of someone firing their employee. I didn&apos;t want to close the window, because one of the phrases was resonating so strongly with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carol from Puebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol from Puebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Sounds like my 24 year old daughter.  I gave my daughter a car.  It was used and she used it to give her then boyfriend driving lessons.  They went on to get married and the car got a flat and instead of fixing it they leased a car.  The old car got towed from the parking lot of the apt complex because you can&#039;t have a non working car according to the lease. Well, long story and now they are seperated and gee, she needs a car.  I tried to teach both of my kids that keeping a job has a lot to do with showing up every day and on time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Sounds like my 24 year old daughter.  I gave my daughter a car.  It was used and she used it to give her then boyfriend driving lessons.  They went on to get married and the car got a flat and instead of fixing it they leased a car.  The old car got towed from the parking lot of the apt complex because you can&#8217;t have a non working car according to the lease. Well, long story and now they are seperated and gee, she needs a car.  I tried to teach both of my kids that keeping a job has a lot to do with showing up every day and on time.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIPAA relates to privacy of personal healthcare information only.  And IANAL, but JD has broken no laws in posting this, although if his employee wanted to bring a case against him for slander he could probably find a lawyer who&#039;d take it.  That&#039;s why so many HR departments, when called to give references, will nowadays only give the person&#039;s dates of employment and positions held.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIPAA relates to privacy of personal healthcare information only.  And IANAL, but JD has broken no laws in posting this, although if his employee wanted to bring a case against him for slander he could probably find a lawyer who&#8217;d take it.  That&#8217;s why so many HR departments, when called to give references, will nowadays only give the person&#8217;s dates of employment and positions held.</p>
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		<title>By: Amed Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amed Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people do not realize what good they have until they loose it. This guy had a good job and blew it to waste. its tough to loose a job but its even more tough to loose a job that was nice to you in everywhere. you did a good thing not taking him back. this will give him a life long lesson and im sure if this guy is smart, he will take this experience into consideration and move to better himself

nice post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people do not realize what good they have until they loose it. This guy had a good job and blew it to waste. its tough to loose a job but its even more tough to loose a job that was nice to you in everywhere. you did a good thing not taking him back. this will give him a life long lesson and im sure if this guy is smart, he will take this experience into consideration and move to better himself</p>
<p>nice post</p>
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		<title>By: ohmygoddessnh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohmygoddessnh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice that you took the time to explain to him that his life is not over, he can recover, and maybe make something of his life.  You gave him a good kick in the pants.  I&#039;m a little shocked that you posted this on your site though.  Shouldn&#039;t that be kept confidential?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice that you took the time to explain to him that his life is not over, he can recover, and maybe make something of his life.  You gave him a good kick in the pants.  I&#8217;m a little shocked that you posted this on your site though.  Shouldn&#8217;t that be kept confidential?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously what you have described for this young man, and tried to explain to him, is that his current situation and actions are only a symptom of underlying problems he needs to work on.  Sometimes these life lessons are very difficult to learn, and unfortunately many don&#039;t learn from them, rather just feel they are being beaten down by &quot;the man.&quot;

Your advice was sound and heartfelt; hopefully at some point he will take it to heart.

From a personal experience perspective, if he is truly interested in the music industry, a fun way to gain experience is to work on the road with a tour.  There are many &quot;roadie&quot; jobs for guitar techs, stage hands, etc. if you are willing to travel, which in his case would help with the housing dilemma.  I have personal experience being on the road with tours in other capacities, but have seen several people get started and make a nice long term job experience out of it.

There are always opportunities to fit interests if the individual is willing to put for the time and effort to adapt the opportunity.  The question of course would be if this would a chance taken advantage of or squandered as with his current employ with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously what you have described for this young man, and tried to explain to him, is that his current situation and actions are only a symptom of underlying problems he needs to work on.  Sometimes these life lessons are very difficult to learn, and unfortunately many don&#8217;t learn from them, rather just feel they are being beaten down by &#8220;the man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your advice was sound and heartfelt; hopefully at some point he will take it to heart.</p>
<p>From a personal experience perspective, if he is truly interested in the music industry, a fun way to gain experience is to work on the road with a tour.  There are many &#8220;roadie&#8221; jobs for guitar techs, stage hands, etc. if you are willing to travel, which in his case would help with the housing dilemma.  I have personal experience being on the road with tours in other capacities, but have seen several people get started and make a nice long term job experience out of it.</p>
<p>There are always opportunities to fit interests if the individual is willing to put for the time and effort to adapt the opportunity.  The question of course would be if this would a chance taken advantage of or squandered as with his current employ with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Firing Your Boss &#124; Smart Saving and Investing</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/09/13/drama-in-real-life-youre-fired/comment-page-2/#comment-98232</link>
		<dc:creator>Firing Your Boss &#124; Smart Saving and Investing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 04:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Get Rich Slowly, J.D. talks about firing an employee in his family business. I thought I&#8217;d share my story on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Getting to Now: How to Beat the Procrastination Habit ? Get Rich Slowly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getting to Now: How to Beat the Procrastination Habit ? Get Rich Slowly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Drama in Real Life: &quot;You&#039;re Fired!&quot;  - 47 Votes [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jcCommerce - &#187; Quotes start at $10,000</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcCommerce - &#187; Quotes start at $10,000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The things that are priorities in our lives are the things we actually do, and what we are doing is Secure Delivery. We intend to grow this company and make a living off of it (we&#8217;re in the black but we&#8217;re not rich yet!). If anybody else wants to intrude on our plans, the quotes start at $10,000 and go up sharply from there :)  I know a lot of people make money with a blend of AdSense, product sales, blogging, etc. At what point would you decide to focus all your energy on one project and drop the others? I understand that many &#8220;internet money&#8221; options can be somewhat automatic after setting them up, but what would be your indication to stop making random sites and focus on one project? [...]</description>
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<p>[...] The things that are priorities in our lives are the things we actually do, and what we are doing is Secure Delivery. We intend to grow this company and make a living off of it (we&#8217;re in the black but we&#8217;re not rich yet!). If anybody else wants to intrude on our plans, the quotes start at $10,000 and go up sharply from there <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I know a lot of people make money with a blend of AdSense, product sales, blogging, etc. At what point would you decide to focus all your energy on one project and drop the others? I understand that many &#8220;internet money&#8221; options can be somewhat automatic after setting them up, but what would be your indication to stop making random sites and focus on one project? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another Week of Great Posts &#124; How I Will Be Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Week of Great Posts &#124; How I Will Be Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rich Slowly discusses his Real Life Drama of Having to Fire Someone. I can definitely relate to this one, being part owner in a family business and having to deal with [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Rich Slowly discusses his Real Life Drama of Having to Fire Someone. I can definitely relate to this one, being part owner in a family business and having to deal with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JuryDuty</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuryDuty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Fantastic post. Sounds like you&#039;re a great boss to work for, and a very reasonable, compassionate person. Excellent stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Fantastic post. Sounds like you&#8217;re a great boss to work for, and a very reasonable, compassionate person. Excellent stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Priorities Are What You Do at FreshBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Priorities Are What You Do at FreshBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] around to reading it and I&#8217;m glad I did. It&#8217;s from JD at Get Rich Slowly and titled, Drama In Real Life: &#8220;You&#8217;re Fired!&#8221; I love this blog and this type of post is [...]</description>
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<p>[...] around to reading it and I&#8217;m glad I did. It&#8217;s from JD at Get Rich Slowly and titled, Drama In Real Life: &#8220;You&#8217;re Fired!&#8221; I love this blog and this type of post is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Strata Chalup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strata Chalup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a very insightful posting, with a real tagline to live by.  I now have a reminder up on my monitor where I&#039;ll see it almost every day:  &quot;What you really do is who you are; what you say is just moving air.  We show our true priorities in life by THINGS WE ACTUALLY DO.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a very insightful posting, with a real tagline to live by.  I now have a reminder up on my monitor where I&#8217;ll see it almost every day:  &#8220;What you really do is who you are; what you say is just moving air.  We show our true priorities in life by THINGS WE ACTUALLY DO.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Reasonable above.  I think you were right to fire the guy but not to give him the advice.  You made your statement by firing him.  The rest is for him to figure out, or even ultimately to disagree with you on, but not having a job is going to make things tough for a while for him, and that is his real situation right now.  To be honest, giving the advice seems really condescending.  He is the only one who truly knows his side of this story.
  
I had to fire a contractor at my last job and immediately got the call back with the sob story.  It was definitely the right thing to fire the contractor, but the repercussions in her life were real.  I only explained why we were firing her (missed deadlines, unacceptable quality of work).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Reasonable above.  I think you were right to fire the guy but not to give him the advice.  You made your statement by firing him.  The rest is for him to figure out, or even ultimately to disagree with you on, but not having a job is going to make things tough for a while for him, and that is his real situation right now.  To be honest, giving the advice seems really condescending.  He is the only one who truly knows his side of this story.</p>
<p>I had to fire a contractor at my last job and immediately got the call back with the sob story.  It was definitely the right thing to fire the contractor, but the repercussions in her life were real.  I only explained why we were firing her (missed deadlines, unacceptable quality of work).</p>
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		<title>By: Savvy Frugality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savvy Frugality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not long ago I was in a similar situation and the employee you had to fire.  I lost a job and a home at nearly the same time (neither were my fault, but it&#039;s a long story).  I could have let the situation defeat me, but instead I moved my family across the country to a state we had never even visited for the one job offer I had.  It has turned out to be the best place we ever lived, and we were able   improve our financial situation rather quickly.  The saying &quot;God will never give you more than you can handle&quot; often comes to mind.  Dire situations only defeat you if you let them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not long ago I was in a similar situation and the employee you had to fire.  I lost a job and a home at nearly the same time (neither were my fault, but it&#8217;s a long story).  I could have let the situation defeat me, but instead I moved my family across the country to a state we had never even visited for the one job offer I had.  It has turned out to be the best place we ever lived, and we were able   improve our financial situation rather quickly.  The saying &#8220;God will never give you more than you can handle&#8221; often comes to mind.  Dire situations only defeat you if you let them.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Weekly Roundup - Soccer Madness Edition&#160;&#64;&#160;fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Weekly Roundup - Soccer Madness Edition&#160;&#64;&#160;fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; Weekly Roundup: I Don&#8217;t Get Political Donations&#160;on&#160;Blueprint for Financial Prosperity</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Weekly Roundup: I Don&#8217;t Get Political Donations&#160;on&#160;Blueprint for Financial Prosperity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review - My Favorite Personal Finance Articles &#124; Cash Money Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week in Review - My Favorite Personal Finance Articles &#124; Cash Money Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rich Slowly: Drama in Real Life: &#8220;You&#8217;re Fired!&#8221;. JD wrote about his experiences when he was forced to fire someone recently. This does not sound [...]</description>
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		<title>By: shadox</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that many young employees these days have a strong sense of entitlement. One of my employees (23 years old) recently quit, and gave me 2 week&#039;s notice. The next day she came in again and asked whether she could still get her bonus, since she was leaving only 4 months before the end of the year... Can you guess my answer?

JD, you did good, but I must admit that you are a more patient man than I am. I would not have the patience to go through the conversation you described, where it just seems the other side is simply not listening and keeps repeating the same point over and over. Good going!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that many young employees these days have a strong sense of entitlement. One of my employees (23 years old) recently quit, and gave me 2 week&#8217;s notice. The next day she came in again and asked whether she could still get her bonus, since she was leaving only 4 months before the end of the year&#8230; Can you guess my answer?</p>
<p>JD, you did good, but I must admit that you are a more patient man than I am. I would not have the patience to go through the conversation you described, where it just seems the other side is simply not listening and keeps repeating the same point over and over. Good going!</p>
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		<title>By: Adventures In Money Making</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adventures In Money Making</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He needed to hear that. I hope he&#039;s learnt from it.

good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He needed to hear that. I hope he&#8217;s learnt from it.</p>
<p>good job!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did the right thing. I&#039;m glad you held your ground. It&#039;s the best for both of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did the right thing. I&#8217;m glad you held your ground. It&#8217;s the best for both of you.</p>
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		<title>By: brip blap &#187; Blog Archive &#187; linklings &#8220;no cameras&#8221; football edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>brip blap &#187; Blog Archive &#187; linklings &#8220;no cameras&#8221; football edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Drama in Real Life: &#8220;You&#8217;re Fired!&#8221; from Get Rich Slowly by J.D.&#160; I have had to fire a couple of people, and it sucks.&#160; No gentler or more clever way to put it.&#160; This is a very interesting post about how people put themselves in bad situations and then have to reap what they&#8217;ve sowed. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Drama in Real Life: &ldquo;You&rsquo;re Fired!&rdquo; from Get Rich Slowly by J.D.&nbsp; I have had to fire a couple of people, and it sucks.&nbsp; No gentler or more clever way to put it.&nbsp; This is a very interesting post about how people put themselves in bad situations and then have to reap what they&#8217;ve sowed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There does come a time when someone is not contributing to the bottom line of a business and is not doing their bit to keep it afloat. Then they are a liability, not an asset, and it&#039;s time for them to go.

The employer went way beyond in giving him a second chance and time to improve his work behavior. Instead he was late or a no-show.

He&#039;s 21 years old. He has quite a few productive years ahead of him should he choose to be so (Where is the italics to stress this point?).

I feel sorry for the guy but he put himself there. It&#039;s up to him to &quot;dig&quot; out as of it were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There does come a time when someone is not contributing to the bottom line of a business and is not doing their bit to keep it afloat. Then they are a liability, not an asset, and it&#8217;s time for them to go.</p>
<p>The employer went way beyond in giving him a second chance and time to improve his work behavior. Instead he was late or a no-show.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s 21 years old. He has quite a few productive years ahead of him should he choose to be so (Where is the italics to stress this point?).</p>
<p>I feel sorry for the guy but he put himself there. It&#8217;s up to him to &#8220;dig&#8221; out as of it were.</p>
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		<title>By: {Rodeo} The "You Are Not Entitled" Mash Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>{Rodeo} The "You Are Not Entitled" Mash Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reap, what you sow. JD at Get Rich Slowly had to fire someone at his family&#8217;s business, because they had become unreliable. Just because you [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jethro</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/09/13/drama-in-real-life-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-97683</link>
		<dc:creator>Jethro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of the last two comments, I will just chime in here...

Note the very first word of this entry, &quot;We&quot;. Well, I am the other part of that, &quot;We&quot;.

I hired this employee. I disciplined this employee. I forgave this employee when he made mistakes. I had high hopes  for this employee. I covered for this employee when he was absent. I physically fired this employeed.

JD just happened to be the guy he talked to after I had fired him.

A few weeks prior to the firing, when problems first start arising, I sat down with said employee and discussed things with him. I told him that, while it seemed the flood waters were rising all around him, he needed some kind of lifeline to hold on to -- and our company was willing to be that lifeline. But in order for us to be a lifeline, he needed to hold on to the rope -- and that meant showing up for work and doing his job.

I also told him that our lifeline could not pull him out of the water -- he needed to dig deep inside himself and find the strength to pull himself out of the water. He was not willing to put forth the effort to do this. He wanted someone else to do it for him. He let go of the lifeline, and we had no choice but to real the lifeline in and start over with somebody new.

JD didn&#039;t have to talk to him when he called back, but he took the time to try and ease the pain. Something I wasn&#039;t willing to do at that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of the last two comments, I will just chime in here&#8230;</p>
<p>Note the very first word of this entry, &#8220;We&#8221;. Well, I am the other part of that, &#8220;We&#8221;.</p>
<p>I hired this employee. I disciplined this employee. I forgave this employee when he made mistakes. I had high hopes  for this employee. I covered for this employee when he was absent. I physically fired this employeed.</p>
<p>JD just happened to be the guy he talked to after I had fired him.</p>
<p>A few weeks prior to the firing, when problems first start arising, I sat down with said employee and discussed things with him. I told him that, while it seemed the flood waters were rising all around him, he needed some kind of lifeline to hold on to &#8212; and our company was willing to be that lifeline. But in order for us to be a lifeline, he needed to hold on to the rope &#8212; and that meant showing up for work and doing his job.</p>
<p>I also told him that our lifeline could not pull him out of the water &#8212; he needed to dig deep inside himself and find the strength to pull himself out of the water. He was not willing to put forth the effort to do this. He wanted someone else to do it for him. He let go of the lifeline, and we had no choice but to real the lifeline in and start over with somebody new.</p>
<p>JD didn&#8217;t have to talk to him when he called back, but he took the time to try and ease the pain. Something I wasn&#8217;t willing to do at that point.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasonable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reasonable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am in a minority here, for sure, but I don&#039;t think your giving him advice was the right thing.
Reality is that no-one takes advice from the one who fired him; it&#039;s not how humans work. And your motives, to him, were justifiably suspect - you obviously were not after his best interests (you just fired him, right?) so why should he consider your advice in his best interests, as opposed to a moralizing desire on your part for your own reasons?
That said, the same advice to a friend or even a co-worker would have been right on point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am in a minority here, for sure, but I don&#8217;t think your giving him advice was the right thing.<br />
Reality is that no-one takes advice from the one who fired him; it&#8217;s not how humans work. And your motives, to him, were justifiably suspect &#8211; you obviously were not after his best interests (you just fired him, right?) so why should he consider your advice in his best interests, as opposed to a moralizing desire on your part for your own reasons?<br />
That said, the same advice to a friend or even a co-worker would have been right on point.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s a little harsh to assume that the trials and tribulations you, and the other guys in the shop, have had in your lives outweigh his.  Even though your assumptions are most likely true, I believe that you have failed to take into account that he is a kid and is going through his hardships for the very first time in life.  You could’ve handled his situation two ways.  First (your way), you could’ve fired him and said things like “You’re at rock bottom now, but you’re only 21.  You can recover.”  Or, second, you could’ve used you’re experience in life and working through hard times and you could’ve become a role model or a mentor to the kid.  The kid is 21.  This is an age where he is taking his first steps into the real world and bearing the weight of trying to find his place.  There’s a lot of stress and pressure that comes just from trying to find a track in life, let alone getting on the right track, especially without having the appropriate resources at your disposal or someone that deems you worthy of their guidance.  He is handling this stress and his other problems very poorly probably because he has been lacking a guide in his life; a role-model or father-figure.  Someone to say, “This is life.  This is how I did it.  You don’t have to do it exactly the same as I did but it worked for me.  I’m here for you so you can make all your experiences in life relative.”  Instead, he probably has been dealing with people his entire life that say things like, “Should I tell him how the foreman went through a divorce that tore him up inside, and still had perfect attendance?”  Yea? Well, if that&#039;s the case, maybe you should also tell him about how the foreman knew his path and purpose and understood that continuing his daily routine would be a source of stress relief as time slowly healed the wounds.  How we react to shit happening does not determine how successful we’ll be at all.  How much we understand and stay true to ourselves, our path, our goals, our passions and how much we’re prepared for life so that when shit does happen (because it’s definitely going to) we can accept it as shit, deal with it, and bounce back.  That is what determines how successful we’ll be in life.  And how does one understand and stay true to themselves and prepare for life?  Well, you need role-models and mentors to follow until you internalize the path to success and happiness for yourself.

I know guiding one individual to their path may not bring you the same fulfillment as does teaching thousands daily through your writing, but if guiding people is along your life’s path then I think that handling it the way you did is incongruent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a little harsh to assume that the trials and tribulations you, and the other guys in the shop, have had in your lives outweigh his.  Even though your assumptions are most likely true, I believe that you have failed to take into account that he is a kid and is going through his hardships for the very first time in life.  You could’ve handled his situation two ways.  First (your way), you could’ve fired him and said things like “You’re at rock bottom now, but you’re only 21.  You can recover.”  Or, second, you could’ve used you’re experience in life and working through hard times and you could’ve become a role model or a mentor to the kid.  The kid is 21.  This is an age where he is taking his first steps into the real world and bearing the weight of trying to find his place.  There’s a lot of stress and pressure that comes just from trying to find a track in life, let alone getting on the right track, especially without having the appropriate resources at your disposal or someone that deems you worthy of their guidance.  He is handling this stress and his other problems very poorly probably because he has been lacking a guide in his life; a role-model or father-figure.  Someone to say, “This is life.  This is how I did it.  You don’t have to do it exactly the same as I did but it worked for me.  I’m here for you so you can make all your experiences in life relative.”  Instead, he probably has been dealing with people his entire life that say things like, “Should I tell him how the foreman went through a divorce that tore him up inside, and still had perfect attendance?”  Yea? Well, if that&#8217;s the case, maybe you should also tell him about how the foreman knew his path and purpose and understood that continuing his daily routine would be a source of stress relief as time slowly healed the wounds.  How we react to shit happening does not determine how successful we’ll be at all.  How much we understand and stay true to ourselves, our path, our goals, our passions and how much we’re prepared for life so that when shit does happen (because it’s definitely going to) we can accept it as shit, deal with it, and bounce back.  That is what determines how successful we’ll be in life.  And how does one understand and stay true to themselves and prepare for life?  Well, you need role-models and mentors to follow until you internalize the path to success and happiness for yourself.</p>
<p>I know guiding one individual to their path may not bring you the same fulfillment as does teaching thousands daily through your writing, but if guiding people is along your life’s path then I think that handling it the way you did is incongruent.</p>
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