How to Use the Amazon Marketplace for Fun and Profit
Published on - September 23rd, 2007 (by J.D. Roth) This is a guest post from Cady. You can read more from Cady in her fiscal fitness journal in the Get Rich Slowly discussion forums.
While rearranging my music collection recently, I decided to pull out anything I hadn’t listened to in a year. I had quite a stack. I looked at some of my titles and decided to sell them. I’d never really considered it before, but since I buy most of my new-to-me music used on Amazon I figured, “Why not try selling some there too?”
I logged into Amazon and set up a sellers account with a few clicks. The sellers account interface is easy to use. For each title, I decided on its condition (used-acceptable for example), and then set my price as the lowest. I sat back to see what would happen.
Making money
I’ve now sold 28 titles in about two months for about $160 in profits. Let me give you two examples of how the shipping and commission works.
The last CD I sold, Amazon charged the buyer:
- Item Subtotal: $5.50
- Shipping: $2.98
- Total: $8.48
Amazon credited my account:
- Buyer’s price: $5.50
- Amazon commission: ($2.62)
- Shipping credit: $2.98
- Your earnings: $5.86
So, in effect, on this one they gave me $0.36 towards the shipping since I put it up for sale for $5.50. Their cut comes out of the buyers shipping costs on this one. The actual shipping cost to me at the post office was $1.61. Less the $0.36 shipping credit up to this point, I’ve cleared $4.25. The envelope I shipped it in cost me $0.33 at Walgreens on sale with a coupon. So I earned $3.92 on that sale.
I’ll use my most expensive one as another example:
Amazon charged the buyer:
- Item Subtotal: $12.00
- Shipping: $2.98
- Total: $14.98
They credited my account:
- Buyer’s price: $12.00
- Amazon commission: ($3.59)
- Shipping credit: $2.98
- Your earnings: $11.39
So, in effect, on this one they gave me no money towards the shipping and took some of my profit as well. The shipping costs at the post office was still $1.61. So far, for me, it has been no more than $1.84 to mail a CD First Class via USPS, and that is if it is a double disk or has a heavy booklet. So minus the $1.61 shipping credit and the $0.33 envelope, I earned $9.92 on this sale.
My system
I keep everything I have for sale on Amazon in a bag separate from my collection while waiting for an email to arrive that says “Sold, Ship Now.” When an email arrives, I go to the sellers account page, click on the order and then click on “print shipping label.” I print out two copies, one for my records and one to go inside the package. I cut out the buyers name and address, tape it to the front of the bubble-mailer and I ship it either the same day, if I get the message early enough in the day, or the next morning when I go to work. While at the sellers account order page, I also send a short note to the buyer that I’m mailing it out first class via USPS.
Amazon gives you an option to get paid either in a Amazon Gift certificate, or every other Saturday they will automatically dump the balance into your checking account. There is a magic threshold of sales that will make Amazon tell you that you can no longer use the gift certificate as an option. You must change to a checking account. That would be a good thing however since that means you are selling a lot of items.
If you don’t want to wait for your money you can ask to transfer the balance to your checking account whenever you wish. In my experience, though they say it might take up to five days to credit your account, my bank posts it in about two business days.
Your success will depend on the type music you have. The more common, the less you’ll get for it, and then it’ll be less cost effective to ship. My personal cutoff is $4. Below that I’m not making enough money to burn the gas to go to the Post Office. My imported Jazz, Gypsy music, Govt Mule and the Grateful Dead off-shoots (like Lesh and Friends, or Ratdog) all make good money. Steve Earle ain’t selling real well.
Lastly, although I’m losing in double-digits percentage-wise on commission, fees and shipping, I’ve gained about $160 I didn’t have otherwise. Those discs were just sitting there, and I’d have had to put out quite a bit of effort without using Amazon to turn that stack of 28 CDs into $160. I wouldn’t have made $6 per disk at a yard sale. I’ve tried visiting local used CD shops and I get maybe a $1 a disk if I’m lucky.
So what it amounts to is: I’m paying Amazon to borrow their infrastructure to reach a few million shoppers who were not going to be coming to my yard sale. I probably won’t try to sell other things and I have to confess the sale of books for me on Amazon is a waste of time. But I appreciate the tiny income stream that this has generated for me in the last few months.
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It pays to use “media mail” when shipping most items with Amazon Marketplace, although sometimes the First Class is about the same/less for CD’s.
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I also like half.com (owned by ebay). I usually buy my books there and get some real bargains. As far as selling, school textbooks have a lot of potential. It was definitely better for me to sell my books on half.com than to the used books guy sitting outside the bookstore offering
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I’m a big believer in selling on amazon.
I sell my used CD’s and books and even sell new autographed copies of my own novels.
Highly, highly recommend for a) decluttering and b) increasing incoming cash flow.
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I haven’t sold on Amazon.com yet, but I have similar results as Cady on Half.com and on eBay.
Reselling is a great little side business.
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I started selling on Amazon earlier this month, myself. It started so simply too, wanting to unload a text from a class I took earlier this year. In four hours, someone had grabbed it. I put up a few more items and am oddly hooked to it.
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I got rid of a pile of texts from grad school and then medical school on Amazon Marketplace and netted about $400. It’s not really worth putting up bestsellers since you can never charge more than $1 or so and they’re easy to find in used bookstores anyway. I didn’t make anything like a profit, of course, since most of them had been bought new. Best price was $50 for an out-of-print sociology monograph. Now if I could just stop buying books I’d be set.
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J.D., your math appears to be off. The Amazon credits your account with Item Subtotal _and_ the shipping credit, minus their commission. In your first example, they give you $5.50 for the item and $2.98 for the shipping, and take away $2.62 in commission. Since the shipping actually cost you $1.94 ($1.61+$.33), you got $1.04 extra from their shipping credit (2.98-1.94), so your total earnings=$5.86+$1.04=$6.90, and not $3.92.
Same goes for your second example: They paid you $12 for the item, took $3.59 as commission, and gave you $2.98 for shipping, but since you only ended up spending $1.94 on the shipping ($1.61+$.33), you actually made $1.04, just like in the first example. Here your total profit is $11.39+$1.04=$12.43.
I suggest you recalculate all your other transactions using the same formula – I’m sure you’ve made much more than you realize.
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Grigory,
Sorry, but your mat is way off. They got $12.00+2.98=$14.98
$14.98-$3.59=$11.39
$11.39-$1.94=$9.45
to simplify 12.00-3.59+2.98-1.94= $9.45
I don’t care how you shake it, they only made $9.45. Perhaps you should take your own advice “it’s a bit discouraging to see that the people who give out financial advice have problems with elementary arithmetics”. Since you can not add and subtract simple numbers quite offering others advice, learn to add and subtract first!
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Sorry – I didn’t notice that it was a guest post.
Still, it’s a bit discouraging to see that the people who give out financial advice have problems with elementary arithmetics…
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Ouch, Grigory! You’re making my head hurt!
I’ll get to test the math for sure in the next couple of months. I’m going to try selling things on Amazon myself!
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I’ve hardly ever gotten the full reimbursement for S&H that Amazon charges the buyer. For instance, when I sold a book (weighs about 2+ lbs) Amazon charges the buyer $3.99 but I get reimbursed about 2.50 or so. When I got to USPS to ship the book (via media mail) the shipping alone costs me $3.75 – $4.1x. I can hardly recover the shipping costs from $2.50 let alone the handling fees.
Has anyone ever noticed this?
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My husband and I sold all our CDs back in 2000 on half.com. We made $2200 in three months. I now sell books on Amazon and have paid the utilities and grocery bills for many months in a row.
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Amazon really is a great place to find and sell used items. I have had good luck finding used stuff for low prices and have had a seller account there for a few years.
While CDs sell well, I have personally found a lot of success selling DVDs. It’s a good way to earn a little extra cash from the hardly watched DVDs that are sitting on my shelf. (Shameless plug for my Amazon storefront: http://tinyurl.com/3ac2r8) Thanks!
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A record store in Charleston, SC lets you trade in your CDs and DVDs towards an iPod (and now an iPhone!). I did this when the iPod video 5g first came out, got rid of all my CDs in exchange for the 60 gig iPod. They will even let you ship the CDs and will ship the iPod to you (I live nearby so just carried my CDs over).
Check them out:
http://www.millenniummusic.com/
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@Grigory–
I’m not sure your math is right, or you’ve misinterpreted something.
Amazon credits Cady $5.86 for the purchase, *including* the shipping credit. She spends $1.94 shipping it (1.61 postage, 0.33 envelope). $5.86-$1.94 = $3.92, like she said.
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You’re wrong, Grigory. Amazon gave her $5.86, she spent $1.94 out of pocket, net = $3.92.
(You’re including the shipping credit twice. The actual credit + the “difference.”)
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@Jacques:
Amazon takes a cut from both the sale price and the shipping costs and passes along a fixed payment to you for shipping (based on category, not weight). Some of Amazon’s cut for shipping pays for the delivery guarantee program.
The net result is that it doesn’t pay to ship heavy books for small payments. But a light book can be profitable on shipping charges alone (that’s why some vendors sell books for 1 cent).
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Can anyone who has used both half.com and Amazon to sell their stuff recommend one over the other?
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I’ve used only half.com, and I love it. They don’t take much, cut-wise–much, much less than Amazon, apparently. They also give you about $3 for shipping, which for light books shipped with media mail is always plenty. I’ve made a couple of hundred dollars over a couple of years as a college student just selling my old books that I don’t want anymore.
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Making Amazon work for you…
A clever entrepreneur explains how she’s used Amazon to declutter her music collection and turn a profit…
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Great deal Cady, I was just going to say they would only get about $1 at a yard sale, so you did good.
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I use both Amazon and Half.com. I think they’re almost too similar to compare. If I have a stack of items to sell, I’ll see what each item is going for on both sites and go with whichever will earn the most for that specific item. Whichever you choose, you can easily get more for most items than you could at a yard sale…
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Can anyone explain the benefits of selling cd’s at amazon over just selling them on ebay? I have a large collection that I am in the process of getting ready to sell, but never even thought of amazon as an option, i was going to go straight through ebay.
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I just look at the Math as Total Receipts( price+shipping charged)-your cost of shipping-cost of book ( if applicable- I suppose in this example no cost is being applied to a used book/CD)-commission ( paid to Amazon)= profit
I account for it the same way I do eBay. Both have fees/commission, shipping charges and shipping costs. My main business is selling books on eBay. I buy them New from the publishers or other sources. I sell for a certain price plus shipping.
For example, I might sell a book for $15.00 + 5.00 shipping= $20.00 ( using round numbers, though for psychological and other reasons I never sell for round number prices). Then I have fees of eBay listing, Final Value, Paypal ( all these together would be similar to the Amazon commission), shipping cost of postage and materials ( I buy certain box sizes, but for books mostly I use rolls of corrugated wrap that I cut to size). It might be something like $20.00 total selling price minus 1.56 ebay fees, 0.97 paypal fee, 6.30 cost of book, 2.69 in postage, 0.16 in shipping materials =
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Some things sell better on Amazon. I have more experience with books than CDs, though. Textbooks sell well on Amazon for me. I think CDs do as well, though I havent done much of that. I find that both sell better with a long listing duration, which will cost more on ebay. ebay charges monthly fees for a store, plus fees every time you list something. Amazon doesn’t charge listing fees and you can list and relist an items for however long it takes. Depending on the competition sometimes it’s easier to set and get the right price on Amazon. Other times every thing is selling for a penny.
Amazon listing is pretty easy, also. As all you need to do is find the item on Amazon and click ” Sell yours” and add it.
It depends. There are so many different variable. I have actually “flipped” books from Amazon to eBay before.
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I’ve sold (and bought) a lot of textbooks on Amazon. Abebooks.com is good for buying if you can stand paperback textbooks.
University textbook stores are a ripoff, but so is the textbook industry as a whole =)
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The post office has become picky about picking up larger media mail packages at the house.You should buy a postal scale and use redroller.com for media mail.
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This is the first time I’ve actually tried something touted on a website..and it really worked out great! I used Cady’s link to the Amazon seller site, and took about 20 minutes to list 15 books. I went downstairs to grab a few more, and I had my first buyer by the time I got back to the computer. I spent too much on shipping materials because I was so excited I just ran to the corner drugstore for a padded envelope, but the actual postage was only $2.15, so now I understand how people are making a profit selling at $0.01. (Although it still makes me mad :
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If you have something that’s only selling for a penny on Amazon, check and see only one or two copies are selling for that. If so, it’s a temporary price war. Price yours higher and wait for the cheapies to sell. If there are dozens of them for a penny, either list it on Half.com (where the minimum price is 75 cents) and hope for the best, or don’t bother.
As far as pricing strategy, you are much better off MATCHING the lowest price, rather than undercutting it (even by a penny). Many of the largest sellers have repricing software that automatically matches or undercuts the lowest price (some of them in realtime). By matching the price you run less risk of starting a price war, and you avoid leaving money on the table.
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Thanks for this great post. I’ve been thinking about selling off my old books and cds for awhile now – this post has definitely renewed that spark!
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I didn’t read all the comments, so I don’t know if this is a repeat, but if you are going to sell a lot of stuff (CDs are a great example) then you’ll want to look into getting your packaging material in bulk to reduce your costs.
Todd Dominey over at What Do I Know? published a great post about selling off the majority of his CD collection on Amazon Marketplace. He recommends a company called Uline for bulk packaging. You can get simple, single-CD cardboard mailers for $0.28 each without needing coupons.
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This inspired me to jump in and try selling some CD’s. I picked a mix of stuff ranging from fairly obscure to quite common. I picked 10 to do a test run with. Turns out one of my world music CD’s goes for $50 new these days (I assure you I didn’t pay that much) and about half that used. It will be interesting to see how this goes.
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If you’re already on eBay, then half.com is definitely the way to go. Purely from a feedback standpoint, your ebay + half.com accounts are the same. From looking at how much the poster made on Amazon Marketplace, at first glance it seems as though half.com takes a bit less in commission.
As for half.com over eBay, you have to think about half.com as a real business with inventory rather than an auction site. There is much less work involved in posting items on half.com. If it’s a book, CD, video game, or movie, half.com is the way to go.
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I only sell stuff on there if it’s going for over, say $7. Otherwise the shipping eats any profits. But it’s a nice place to get rid of more expensive books I’ve bought for classes and such.
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I’ve had the unfortunate case of spending more money to send a book than getting paid for it (due to shipping, as Amazon has fixed prices for shipping on books regardless the size) but other than that it has been a pretty positive experience.
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I sell books on amazon. I buy them fro $1 or less, and manage a good second or third income with them.
Sure…I have to sell A LOT of books to get to that magic number, but it works out.
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Absolutely. I’ve been selling on Amazon for a couple of years now. I’ve never sold CDs, but I’ve made a lot of money selling books, including textbooks which I got probably 200% more than I would have selling them back to the campus bookstore.
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I’m a marketplace seller, too. One tip I have for you is that when you’re listing your CDs, books, or other items at Amazon, find the Amazon page for the product by searching for the UPC or ISBN number on the product in your hand. Not only is it faster to enter the search (if you know 10-key), but you won’t have pick through different versions of the product that you might have to do when you search through title.
Another tip: pay some attention to “natural pricepoints.” These are prices that people have been conditioned through years of retail to pay. People are comfortable paying $11.99 for something because, chances are, they’ve bought hundreds of items at that same price over the course of their lifetime. $11.73 is a bit stranger to them.
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Im glad this post cam around. I was just trying to get rid of a buig box of cd’s at music tader, and they wanted the whole thing for maybe $10. So, good thing I waited.. And I dont know if anyone said this yet, but you can get free mailers from the ups.com store (totally free, no shipping costs for shipping materials, hah) they even have small media mail ones for cd’s/dvd’s, and they’re not prepaid or forced into a higher shipping category.
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Interesting write up. I have used Half.com for years, though just for little things here and there.
Earlier this month, I signed up with Amazon but promptly canceled after I saw the commission charged on my first sale. It was like 30% or so! Definitely not worth it in my opinion. I don’t know the Half.com number but I’m sure it isn’t that high. I don’t doubt that you get a larger audience on Amazon than Half.com, but for my needs Half.com works quite nicely.
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Wow… great article! Thanks for posting this!!! I just put up my first item on sale =] I’ll keep visiting.
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Okay. I did not get a chance to read all the posts, but i feel that AMazon is literally raping its sellers. A 15% commission is high by itself. But then throw in the $40 a month fee, then the per transaction fee of about $1.35 and for those sellers who need to actually buy books to sell them as a real business, a huge chunk of the profits are being taken by Amazon so unless you are buying each book for .25 you are not making any money when you factor in costs of materials and misc. For example, Amazon collected about $400 from me in sales. Once all of their “fees” were subtracted, i only ended up with about $270. I feel like I am being robbed blind. I think the 15% is enough and they would still be hugely profitable. Or maybe they can take 5% and charge a monthly fee of about $20. That would be fair. They are definitely unfair. Unless I have books selling for an average of $30 each, there is no profit after costs of envelopes,tape, paper, labels, ink, gas. Anyone else feel this way?
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If anyone reads this Amazon.com is a FUKING rip off, if you sell a book for 5 dollars they will take almost half the money. Also Amazon’s prices are outragous! Amazon is a rip off try half.com it is better, safer, cheaper and if you sell the commission is only 15 %.
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I purchase from the dame suppliers Barnes and Noble and Borders purchase from, I just did a spot check on 40 new items. Mya verage wholsesale is 40% off of MSRP I found an Amazon fee calculator online not sure if it is correct but I beleive it to be, and I would not be making profit on a single transaction. I noticed most in this forum or selling used so from that standpoint its all profit any in here sellling new things and actually making a profit I would really like to know.
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wow, this is really inspirational. i’m definitely going to have to look into this.
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Just wanted to chime in on this thread and say I’ve made about $250 in 4 weeks off of marketplace. If you have a good selection of CDs you can do well! I find that offering my own critical opinions on the CDs, in addition to pricing them low (not the lowest though), really helps them to sell.
By critical opinions, I mean talking about what my favorite tracks are, why this album is so good, etc. Of course, it’s also important to mention the condition of the CD too. Just actually writing about the specific Cd you’re holding really stands out next to cut & paste ’100% GUARANTEED SHIPPING’ blurbs and can get people to spend an extra $.50 or $.75.
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I really appreciate this thread.
Here’s another way to get free (used) mailers, and help the planet at the same time: post a WANTED ad on Freecycle or craigslist for used padded envelopes. You have to use a little more tape, but it’s worth it to me.
Does anyone know how to get information for completed sales on half.com or amazon.com? For example, on Ebay, you can get a list of all completed listings, so you can see how much interest there is in an item.
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I sell on Amazon marketplace pretty regularly, both books and CDs (and occasionally DVDs). They do charge more commission, but I like them better than eBay because I don’t have to take photos, upload them to my computer, crop/edit them, upload them to the site, write a description, blah blah blah. Just click a few things and you’re good to go. Plus they don’t charge listing fees (or monthly fees — don’t know where the above poster got that).
It’s true that you can get those unfortunate situations with Amazon where you pay more to ship something than you got for it (and sometimes for international shipping they don’t credit you enough). I generally don’t list anything particularly heavy for those reasons (unless it’s a textbook and is going for enough to cover the extra cost). I’ve found that it evens out in the long term, and I don’t mind paying the extra since it’s much less hassle.
It should also be noted that Amazon expects sellers to ship Media Mail, NOT First Class. Sometimes First Class is cheaper (e.g. for CDs and smaller books), but you should never use it for heavier books, where you might pay $8 to ship First Class while Media Mail is only $2.58 or so. I’ll upgrade my buyers to First Class when it’s cheaper or the cost is more or less the same, but otherwise, Amazon won’t fault you for using Media Mail, even though it has a longer delivery time.
I haven’t sold on Half.com since before they merged with eBay, so I can’t really speak to which is better. I never had much luck on there, but that was a VERY long time ago.
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I’ve sold books on Amazon and for the most part I generally get somewhere between 65% and 70% of the purchase price (after paying commission and postage). You do need to be careful selling large items not qualified for media mail, as they can be quite expensive to mail. I sold one item for $70 but ended up getting only 55% of that! Also, if you use the online USPS labels, you can get delivery confirmation for $0.18, which is nice as you know when your item was delivered. Next up for me is to try selling some of my old CD/DVD/VHS.
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