Comments on: Daily Roundup: Bringing Home the Bacon Edition

By: If I had a Million Dollars (Linkified)

If I had a Million Dollars (Linkified) — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:56:51 +0000

[...] have pre-wrapped sausages but they don’t have pre-wrapped bacon Well, can you blame ‘em Uh, [...]

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By: Daedala

Daedala — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:55:23 +0000

You can probably be less scared of the bacon; the report that article references seems to have a number of problems:

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/11/jfs-exclusive-whats-evidence-cancers.html

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By: Scott Kustes

Scott Kustes — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:52:13 +0000

Elisabeth,
One thing to think about with non-meat hotdogs is that they’re probably made with soy, which ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. Fermented soy products like miso, natto, and tempeh are good because the fermentation kills off of wide range of antinutrients. Frankenfoods like soy hot dogs, soy burgers, and all of the other precipitated soy products in the grocery store do not destroy the goitrogens and such.

Food for thought.

Cheers
Scott Kustes
Modern Forager

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By: John

John — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:10:50 +0000

Vegetarians should not visit the following page: http://www.bsbrewing.com/blog/?p=261

It’s a wonderful “how-to” for making your own bacon.

Bacon lovers will need a drool towel.

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By: elisabeth

elisabeth — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:36:48 +0000

We switched to non-meat hotdogs years ago (the best, we think is morningstar farms). We’re from chicago, and my feelingis that once you put even half of the traditional chicago toppings on, you hardly notice the actual hot dog. But although we buy no meat for the house, I do still eat real BLTs sometimes out in the world–there’s probably a point in diet correctness that’s like the line between frugal and cheap; you have to keep the small indulgences.

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By: icup

icup — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:54:58 +0000

@AB

Thanks, that makes a little more sense.

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By: AB

AB — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:33:39 +0000

It increases the risk you *already* have of getting that cancer by 21%. So, for example, if someone who never ever eats processed meats has a risk of colorectal cancer of 1% over their lifetime, starting to eat 1.7 ounces of meat will raise that to a 1.21% lifetime risk. Eating 8 ounces day will raise the risk by 98% (that is, will almost double it) to 1.98% over your lifetime.

This crash course in interpreting medical statistics brought to you by your friendly health sciences researcher.

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By: CptofMySoul

CptofMySoul — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:22:34 +0000

Yeah, I have to agree with icup. That statistic, as presented, is pretty ridiculous. Do you know 5 people who eat 1.7 ounces of processed meat a day? Does 1 have colorectal cancer?

C’mon JD, scrub the statistics more thoroughly!

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By: J.D.

J.D. — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:22:09 +0000

HA!

On the drive to work this morning, I as trying to figure out exactly what this statistic might mean. Does it mean 1.7oz/day over a lifetime? Over a year?

In my case, it doesn’t matter. I eat a lot of processed meat, and I always have. I need to stop.

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By: icup

icup — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:12:15 +0000

“Every 1.7 ounces of processed meat consumed per day increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 21%”

Well, that’s a meaningless statistic though, isn’t it? If you eat a half a pound of deli meat wouldn’t that mean you have a 98.8% chance of cancer? (8oz / 1.7 oz) * 21% = 98.8%.

OH my god! I just finished a half pound of ham last week!

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By: HollyP

HollyP — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:44:04 +0000

I too love the daily roundup. A trusted source who filters out the junk is invaluable.

I love the line between cheap and frugal. I have always tried to be generous when it comes to others. I find the extra expense is well worth the happiness and quality of life it brings me.

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By: Justin

Justin — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:41:47 +0000

I’m happy that the only meat I eat at home is the fresh stuff from Publix. I always just did it for the taste, but apparently it’s also healthy for me!

Here’s another interesting item I found doing a quick search on the topic:
http://www.newstarget.com/011148.html
It’s just an editorial, but it seems a little closer to the truth than other stuff.

As a side note, did anyone notice the… anatomically suggestive placement of items in the article’s picture?

@Saving Freak:
Just dig up mercury poisoning reports. See how much she likes her fish then!

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By: Lynnae @ Being Frugal

Lynnae @ Being Frugal — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:58:30 +0000

Thanks for the mention!

That’s a scary statistic on processed meat! My aunt has colon cancer, and it’s not something you want to go through.

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By: honeybee

honeybee — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:37:06 +0000

JD, you have turned PF into a second career. I dig PF but find time to be a big constraint. One of the ways you “add value” to the blog is by showcasing other blogs and sources worth their salt — it gives me a lot of “bang for the buck” in terms of spending my time wisely on PF searching.

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By: Mary

Mary — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:18:18 +0000

Eek! I’ve been eating lean turkey sausage, but yeah, that’s still processed. Luckily, my colonoscopy in August was fine and I have time to reform my diet.

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By: Scott Kustes

Scott Kustes — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:11:59 +0000

Hey JD,
A bit of a word on the cancer-fat link. Don’t believe the hype…they find what they are looking for. As for processed meats, yes, those should be avoided, but here’s the fun part: you can have your bacon without the cancer risk, along with hot dogs and such. You have to find uncured, nitrate/nitrite-free brands. You still don’t want to eat them daily, but if you have a Whole Foods, Trader Joe’s, or the like in your area, you can find plenty of delicious sausages, bacon, and dogs/brats without the (known cancer-causing) nitrates and nitrites.

See, these studies often feed people a Standard American Diet (SAD) and say “See, it’s all that meat and fat,” but the reality is that the SAD is not only high in meat and fat, it’s high in grain-fed, antibiotic- and hormone-laden meats, sugar, trans fats, low in vegetables and fruits, high in grains and starchy carbs, and low in overall vitamins. It is impossible to discern much of anything useful when there are so many variables, which is how they arrive at conclusions that are very PC nearly every time.

Cheers and keep up the awesome work!
Scott Kustes
Modern Forager

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By: Saving Freak

Saving Freak — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:55:26 +0000

I read the comments on meat, specifically processed and red meat, and thought, “that’s just one more reason my wife is going to give me to eat fish.” I hate fish

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