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	<title>Comments on: Beware of Citibank&#8217;s Retroactive Late Fee</title>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-332001</link>
		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well citfinancial slapped me with 3,800 worth of (not sure what) we sucked at paying on time. Had no business even getting a vehicle loan but when it finally matured we still owed 3,800 bucks..they let us defer it 5 times so I know thats 1 thousand of it..the other 2800...not sure...We were stupid and dumb and deserve what we get for messing around with such crooks. They told me they dont charge late fees. and none of my statements ever depicted me oweing tons more and I never got a letter stating how much interest I paid in like my other company gave me...and my payment went down towards the end from 196.00 down to 181.00..but they say my account still haD A 3,800 BALANCE.....I thought I was totally done...No late fees? cant get a copy of my contract yet the only thing I got was what the dealer wrote up and it says clearly there was a 5% late fee after 10 days..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well citfinancial slapped me with 3,800 worth of (not sure what) we sucked at paying on time. Had no business even getting a vehicle loan but when it finally matured we still owed 3,800 bucks..they let us defer it 5 times so I know thats 1 thousand of it..the other 2800&#8230;not sure&#8230;We were stupid and dumb and deserve what we get for messing around with such crooks. They told me they dont charge late fees. and none of my statements ever depicted me oweing tons more and I never got a letter stating how much interest I paid in like my other company gave me&#8230;and my payment went down towards the end from 196.00 down to 181.00..but they say my account still haD A 3,800 BALANCE&#8230;..I thought I was totally done&#8230;No late fees? cant get a copy of my contract yet the only thing I got was what the dealer wrote up and it says clearly there was a 5% late fee after 10 days..</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Wrap-Up: What people spend on food, retroactive late fees and computer recycling &#171; Cheap Like Me</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-104175</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Wrap-Up: What people spend on food, retroactive late fees and computer recycling &#171; Cheap Like Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Get Rich Slowly talked about Citibank&#8217;s retroactive late fees with one example dating back two years. I thought credit card companies had shaped up their act by eliminating two-month finance charge cycles, but this is a new one: http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/ [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Get Rich Slowly talked about Citibank&#8217;s retroactive late fees with one example dating back two years. I thought credit card companies had shaped up their act by eliminating two-month finance charge cycles, but this is a new one: <a href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/" rel="nofollow">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Finance Findings for November 9th : Generation X Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Finance Findings for November 9th : Generation X Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beware of Citibank&#8217;s Retroactive Late Fee - How would you feel if your credit card company suddenly applied a late fee to your account to make up for something that happened in 2005? Yeah, I&#8217;d be pissed too. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Beware of Citibank&#8217;s Retroactive Late Fee &#8211; How would you feel if your credit card company suddenly applied a late fee to your account to make up for something that happened in 2005? Yeah, I&#8217;d be pissed too. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Free Money Finance</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-104090</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Money Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Star Money Articles for the Week of November 5...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here are some recent interesting posts from the MoneyBlogNetwork and beyond: Get Rich Slowly warns to beware Citibank&#039;s retroactive late fee. Consumerism Commentary covers Britney&#039;s finances. AllFinancialMatters tells how to turn desire into gold. Mi...</description>
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<p><strong>Star Money Articles for the Week of November 5&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here are some recent interesting posts from the MoneyBlogNetwork and beyond: Get Rich Slowly warns to beware Citibank&#8217;s retroactive late fee. Consumerism Commentary covers Britney&#8217;s finances. AllFinancialMatters tells how to turn desire into gold. Mi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Skinny City Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-104018</link>
		<dc:creator>Skinny City Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local credit unions are also a great alternative. I have never had anything suspect happen with my credit union in 5 years I&#039;ve been a member. And when I call, a real person who is actually at the branch I called answers the phone.   Amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local credit unions are also a great alternative. I have never had anything suspect happen with my credit union in 5 years I&#8217;ve been a member. And when I call, a real person who is actually at the branch I called answers the phone.   Amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just commenting for an alternate perspective. I want to recommend that if anyone here has access to USAA, to use them for ALL your banking and insurance needs. I&#039;ve never been victimized by a &quot;nickel &amp; dime&quot; charge, and on the rare occaisons that I haven&#039;t been able to get my credit card payment in on time, they have always been willing to work with me to avoid a late charge or finance fee. Not to mention their customer service has always been phenomenal.

I&#039;ve been a customer for the past 8 years and hope to be for another 50 more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just commenting for an alternate perspective. I want to recommend that if anyone here has access to USAA, to use them for ALL your banking and insurance needs. I&#8217;ve never been victimized by a &#8220;nickel &amp; dime&#8221; charge, and on the rare occaisons that I haven&#8217;t been able to get my credit card payment in on time, they have always been willing to work with me to avoid a late charge or finance fee. Not to mention their customer service has always been phenomenal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a customer for the past 8 years and hope to be for another 50 more.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadox</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/11/06/beware-of-citibanks-retroactive-late-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-103944</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to me like a clear case of &quot;close your account with the bastards&quot;. If a company tries to charge you a supposed late fee from two years ago without informing you, they are not worth doing business with.

It seems to me that if they made an error two years ago, it&#039;s their problem and they should not go after their customers 24 months later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to me like a clear case of &#8220;close your account with the bastards&#8221;. If a company tries to charge you a supposed late fee from two years ago without informing you, they are not worth doing business with.</p>
<p>It seems to me that if they made an error two years ago, it&#8217;s their problem and they should not go after their customers 24 months later.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icup, The MBA loan #1 hasn&#039;t been paid off that long so maybe that&#039;s the catch.  The funny thing is the company sends my husband monthly letters letting him know he doesn&#039;t have a payment due since we are paying a ton extra to get the loan paid off in 2007.  I find it funny they have the time to send do not pay letters (especially since we do all our payments via the internet) but have not sent us the &quot;paid in full&quot; letter but perhaps its different deparments....  I&#039;m still anxious to get the paid in full documentation due to these types of issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icup, The MBA loan #1 hasn&#8217;t been paid off that long so maybe that&#8217;s the catch.  The funny thing is the company sends my husband monthly letters letting him know he doesn&#8217;t have a payment due since we are paying a ton extra to get the loan paid off in 2007.  I find it funny they have the time to send do not pay letters (especially since we do all our payments via the internet) but have not sent us the &#8220;paid in full&#8221; letter but perhaps its different deparments&#8230;.  I&#8217;m still anxious to get the paid in full documentation due to these types of issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Money Blue Book</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Blue Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, it&#039;s always important to check your bills and statements each month, whether it be loans or credit cards. I also do automatic debit and have a bad habit of not checking sometimes. I need to change my habits. You never know what could secretly pop up in your credit card statements either through errors or other reasons.
-Raymond</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s always important to check your bills and statements each month, whether it be loans or credit cards. I also do automatic debit and have a bad habit of not checking sometimes. I need to change my habits. You never know what could secretly pop up in your credit card statements either through errors or other reasons.<br />
-Raymond</p>
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		<title>By: MVP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one more reason we should all avoid doing business with credit card companies altogether.

Just think of all the money they&#039;ll make, then add on people who don&#039;t have the money in their accounts to cover the extra fee who&#039;ll then get smacked with a late/NSF fee!! Smart.

People, if this doesn&#039;t make you cut up your credit cards, once and for all, what will??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more reason we should all avoid doing business with credit card companies altogether.</p>
<p>Just think of all the money they&#8217;ll make, then add on people who don&#8217;t have the money in their accounts to cover the extra fee who&#8217;ll then get smacked with a late/NSF fee!! Smart.</p>
<p>People, if this doesn&#8217;t make you cut up your credit cards, once and for all, what will??</p>
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		<title>By: vh</title>
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		<dc:creator>vh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your story weren&#039;t outrageous enough, hevvin help us, the tales told by your commenters are enough to stand everyone&#039;s hair on end!  &quot;Thank you for being a valued member&quot;...snark snark snark!!!!

Complain not just to the attorney general in your state but to the AG&#039;s office in the state where this outfit is headquartered. Then remember that there is a federal banking commission. For those of us in the Southwest, it&#039;s located in San Francisco. Find out where your regional office is, raise Hell, and put a block under it!

Send copies of your complaints to the Better Business Bureau, to Consumer&#039;s Union, and to your state banking commission.

This whole thread is making me hyperventilate!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your story weren&#8217;t outrageous enough, hevvin help us, the tales told by your commenters are enough to stand everyone&#8217;s hair on end!  &#8220;Thank you for being a valued member&#8221;&#8230;snark snark snark!!!!</p>
<p>Complain not just to the attorney general in your state but to the AG&#8217;s office in the state where this outfit is headquartered. Then remember that there is a federal banking commission. For those of us in the Southwest, it&#8217;s located in San Francisco. Find out where your regional office is, raise Hell, and put a block under it!</p>
<p>Send copies of your complaints to the Better Business Bureau, to Consumer&#8217;s Union, and to your state banking commission.</p>
<p>This whole thread is making me hyperventilate!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JerichoHill</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerichoHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BOA will not let you cancel your CC over the internet.

Here&#039;s the form letter I got.  If I was such a valued member, they would&#039;ve been crying to keep me


Thank you for contacting Bank of America regarding your, Credit Card. We
are happy to assist you.

While we make every effort to assist our customers who contact us by
e-mail, there are certain situations which require a conversation with
an account specialist. Since your account requires special handling,
please contact our Customer Assistance Department at 1.800.732.9194.

Please be assured that we know your time is valuable to you and we would
not direct you to contact us by telephone unless it were absolutely
necessary.

We value you as a customer and appreciate your business. If we may be of
further assistance, please contact us again by e-mail. Thank you for
choosing Bank of America.

Thank you for being a valued member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOA will not let you cancel your CC over the internet.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the form letter I got.  If I was such a valued member, they would&#8217;ve been crying to keep me</p>
<p>Thank you for contacting Bank of America regarding your, Credit Card. We<br />
are happy to assist you.</p>
<p>While we make every effort to assist our customers who contact us by<br />
e-mail, there are certain situations which require a conversation with<br />
an account specialist. Since your account requires special handling,<br />
please contact our Customer Assistance Department at 1.800.732.9194.</p>
<p>Please be assured that we know your time is valuable to you and we would<br />
not direct you to contact us by telephone unless it were absolutely<br />
necessary.</p>
<p>We value you as a customer and appreciate your business. If we may be of<br />
further assistance, please contact us again by e-mail. Thank you for<br />
choosing Bank of America.</p>
<p>Thank you for being a valued member.</p>
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		<title>By: xtralimey</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtralimey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In UK, banks have had a wake up call lately on trying to get away with ridiculous charges. Many customers have been compensated either with in court or out of court settlements. It has sent a very strong message to the banks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/newsbeat/070417_banks.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In UK, banks have had a wake up call lately on trying to get away with ridiculous charges. Many customers have been compensated either with in court or out of court settlements. It has sent a very strong message to the banks.<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/newsbeat/070417_banks.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/newsbeat/070417_banks.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skinny City Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skinny City Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bank of America credit card division moves its due dates around to confuse customers. They also set due dates on Sundays or holidays. They push customers to move to the paperless bill to &quot;increase security.&quot; Then the website has problems loading right around the 8th of the month when bills are due. If you try to pay by phone, they charge you $30. 

I never carry a balance and always pay off my card the same day I use it. I even signed up for email reminders and automatic pay as a backup in case I forget. Still, I&#039;ve been caught with one or two late fees due to the inability to pay. When I call to tell them I couldn&#039;t pay because the website didn&#039;t work, they say &quot;we&#039;re terribly sorry and we will fix that for next month&quot; 

Twice there has been a mysterious $45 charge with no explanation that they apologized profusely about when I called, but only after I waited on hold for more than 15 minutes and asked to speak to a manager. 

Credit cards aren&#039;t worth the hassle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bank of America credit card division moves its due dates around to confuse customers. They also set due dates on Sundays or holidays. They push customers to move to the paperless bill to &#8220;increase security.&#8221; Then the website has problems loading right around the 8th of the month when bills are due. If you try to pay by phone, they charge you $30. </p>
<p>I never carry a balance and always pay off my card the same day I use it. I even signed up for email reminders and automatic pay as a backup in case I forget. Still, I&#8217;ve been caught with one or two late fees due to the inability to pay. When I call to tell them I couldn&#8217;t pay because the website didn&#8217;t work, they say &#8220;we&#8217;re terribly sorry and we will fix that for next month&#8221; </p>
<p>Twice there has been a mysterious $45 charge with no explanation that they apologized profusely about when I called, but only after I waited on hold for more than 15 minutes and asked to speak to a manager. </p>
<p>Credit cards aren&#8217;t worth the hassle.</p>
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		<title>By: rj_molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>rj_molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a mortgage through Countrywide and I noticed a strange fee for $40 on our mortgage bill. I called Countrywide and found out that when any bank or other party pulled our credit to offer us a house loan, Countrywide charged us $40!

I told them these offers and credit pulls were unsolicited and unauthorized. They credited the $40 back. I then went back through every bill for the last 3 years and found that we had been charged this $40 fee additional times. The $40 fees were taken from what would have been paid to our mortgage principle.

We were able to get all the $40 fees credited back but unable to get Countrywide to make up the difference in interest that was lost due to those $40 fees not being applied to our mortgages principle. It certainly pays to closely look over all statements. 

Because we pay the same amount every month, I wasn&#039;t as diligent as I should have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a mortgage through Countrywide and I noticed a strange fee for $40 on our mortgage bill. I called Countrywide and found out that when any bank or other party pulled our credit to offer us a house loan, Countrywide charged us $40!</p>
<p>I told them these offers and credit pulls were unsolicited and unauthorized. They credited the $40 back. I then went back through every bill for the last 3 years and found that we had been charged this $40 fee additional times. The $40 fees were taken from what would have been paid to our mortgage principle.</p>
<p>We were able to get all the $40 fees credited back but unable to get Countrywide to make up the difference in interest that was lost due to those $40 fees not being applied to our mortgages principle. It certainly pays to closely look over all statements. </p>
<p>Because we pay the same amount every month, I wasn&#8217;t as diligent as I should have been.</p>
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		<title>By: Flora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercy! This happened to me too!!!  I questioned it, but the hassle CitiBank was making me go through was ridiculous so I just paid the $35.00.  Exactly what CitiBank wanted:  Mission Accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercy! This happened to me too!!!  I questioned it, but the hassle CitiBank was making me go through was ridiculous so I just paid the $35.00.  Exactly what CitiBank wanted:  Mission Accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: Morydd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morydd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, we were not tracking our finances like we should have been in 2005, so we did have some late fees at that time, I do not have statements from the loan at that time, so I have no way to compare what we actually paid, to what Citibank claims we owe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, we were not tracking our finances like we should have been in 2005, so we did have some late fees at that time, I do not have statements from the loan at that time, so I have no way to compare what we actually paid, to what Citibank claims we owe.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Ogunbase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Ogunbase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s no different than someone offering &quot;protection&quot; insurance. It&#039;s a shakedown. 

I can&#039;t wait to see the class action lawsuit on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no different than someone offering &#8220;protection&#8221; insurance. It&#8217;s a shakedown. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see the class action lawsuit on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: icup</title>
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		<dc:creator>icup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’ve paid off one of my husband’s MBA student loans and we have received no paperwork indicating the loan has been paid in full. I’ve asked husband to call and request same. I was all over husband on this b/c of these types of stories, errors (on purpose or otherwise) can happen especially when the loan has been sold more than once.&quot;

How long ago? it took my loan company a good 6 months to get my note back to me. of course, I *think* it was a perkins loan, so YMMV with private loans. I would call them everyday until they agree to send it.

Funny though that when I paid off my car, I got the title from GMAC in a couple days.

At any rate, that&#039;s good to know. I have a student loan with Wells that&#039;s a couple months from being paid-in-full, and its good to know I might have to bug them about it when i do pay it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’ve paid off one of my husband’s MBA student loans and we have received no paperwork indicating the loan has been paid in full. I’ve asked husband to call and request same. I was all over husband on this b/c of these types of stories, errors (on purpose or otherwise) can happen especially when the loan has been sold more than once.&#8221;</p>
<p>How long ago? it took my loan company a good 6 months to get my note back to me. of course, I *think* it was a perkins loan, so YMMV with private loans. I would call them everyday until they agree to send it.</p>
<p>Funny though that when I paid off my car, I got the title from GMAC in a couple days.</p>
<p>At any rate, that&#8217;s good to know. I have a student loan with Wells that&#8217;s a couple months from being paid-in-full, and its good to know I might have to bug them about it when i do pay it off.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.consumerist.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Consumerist&lt;/a&gt;, here&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;NYT&lt;/i&gt; piece on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/business/06mortgage.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dubious fees banks are charging&lt;/a&gt; people who are facing foreclosure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via <a href="http://www.consumerist.com" rel="nofollow">The Consumerist</a>, here&#8217;s a <i>NYT</i> piece on the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/business/06mortgage.html" rel="nofollow">dubious fees banks are charging</a> people who are facing foreclosure.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And with the ongoing foreclosure issue peaking at around 2009/2010, I&#039;m sure these nickel and dimeing schemes are just going to get worse.

I&#039;m only $1,500 in debt outside of my car payment. Now is the time for me to get these paid off and closed.  Then work on paying off my car early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And with the ongoing foreclosure issue peaking at around 2009/2010, I&#8217;m sure these nickel and dimeing schemes are just going to get worse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only $1,500 in debt outside of my car payment. Now is the time for me to get these paid off and closed.  Then work on paying off my car early.</p>
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		<title>By: zfolwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>zfolwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard any problems with Washington Mutual.  BoA, Citi, Wells Fargo= teh suck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard any problems with Washington Mutual.  BoA, Citi, Wells Fargo= teh suck!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A coupld of follow ups:

&quot;I have a Citibank Student Loan and noticed a another scam. All of the sudden I automatically stopped receiving a paper bill. At the time I relied on paper bills to keep track of what needs to be paid. It never got in my pipeline and never was paid. And a late fee occurred.&quot;

I&#039;ve noticed this type of scam as well.  A lot of times if you access an account online you are agreeing to stop paper bills and switch to on-line bills.  This happened to me with ADT.  I didn&#039;t receive a bill, was chaged a late fee, etc.  ADT did waive the fee but I found the whole process sneaky.   


&quot;I don’t see how they can assess late fees for loans that were paid in full. When you pay a student loan off, you typically get your promissory note back stamped ‘paid in full’. That should be more than enough evidence to dispute any charges on a closed account. OF course, you would have to tell citibank to F– off, and have them report you to the agencies to dispute it like that, so maybe its better to just pay the $40.&quot;

We&#039;ve paid off one of my husband&#039;s MBA student loans and we have received no paperwork indicating the loan has been paid in full.  I&#039;ve asked husband to call and request same.  I was all over husband on this b/c of these types of stories, errors (on purpose or otherwise) can happen especially when the loan has been sold more than once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A coupld of follow ups:</p>
<p>&#8220;I have a Citibank Student Loan and noticed a another scam. All of the sudden I automatically stopped receiving a paper bill. At the time I relied on paper bills to keep track of what needs to be paid. It never got in my pipeline and never was paid. And a late fee occurred.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed this type of scam as well.  A lot of times if you access an account online you are agreeing to stop paper bills and switch to on-line bills.  This happened to me with ADT.  I didn&#8217;t receive a bill, was chaged a late fee, etc.  ADT did waive the fee but I found the whole process sneaky.   </p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t see how they can assess late fees for loans that were paid in full. When you pay a student loan off, you typically get your promissory note back stamped ‘paid in full’. That should be more than enough evidence to dispute any charges on a closed account. OF course, you would have to tell citibank to F– off, and have them report you to the agencies to dispute it like that, so maybe its better to just pay the $40.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve paid off one of my husband&#8217;s MBA student loans and we have received no paperwork indicating the loan has been paid in full.  I&#8217;ve asked husband to call and request same.  I was all over husband on this b/c of these types of stories, errors (on purpose or otherwise) can happen especially when the loan has been sold more than once.</p>
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		<title>By: The Happy Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Happy Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this reinforces another reason to work hard to clear your debt and get these people out of our lives.  They aren&#039;t out to benefit you in any way, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this reinforces another reason to work hard to clear your debt and get these people out of our lives.  They aren&#8217;t out to benefit you in any way, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a saying I&#039;ve heard, and I mean to bring it up here but rarely do: &quot;Nobody cares more about your finances than you do.&quot; This is especially true with regards to big banks. It is &lt;i&gt;imperative&lt;/i&gt; that you keep a close watch on your statements to be sure nothing like this is going on.

99% of the time, there&#039;s never any trouble. But that 1% can make your life a living hell. It&#039;s very important that when something goes wrong -- and it&#039;s not your fault -- that you raise a stink. You don&#039;t have to be rude, but be certain to be assertive and to stick up for your rights. This can be difficult since large institutions seem strong, as if they have the weight of dollars and the law. But do it.

My brother has a story that boggles my mind. He and his wife had a credit card with Bank of America. They carried a balance for years, always sending payment just before the due date. Then they began to receive late fees. My brother called to find out why and was told that his payment was arriving the day after it was due. He thought this was a little odd since it had always arrived on time before, but he started mailing his payments a few days earlier. Still he got late fees. He paid even earlier. Eventually &lt;i&gt;he was mailing payment on the day he received his bill&lt;/i&gt;. Still he was charged late fees. Naturally, he blew a gasket. &quot;How in the hell can I possibly pay you any sooner?&quot; he ranted. &quot;I&#039;m mailing the bill on the day I receive it and you guys still claim it&#039;s arriving a day late.&quot;

They didn&#039;t have a good answer for that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a saying I&#8217;ve heard, and I mean to bring it up here but rarely do: &#8220;Nobody cares more about your finances than you do.&#8221; This is especially true with regards to big banks. It is <i>imperative</i> that you keep a close watch on your statements to be sure nothing like this is going on.</p>
<p>99% of the time, there&#8217;s never any trouble. But that 1% can make your life a living hell. It&#8217;s very important that when something goes wrong &#8212; and it&#8217;s not your fault &#8212; that you raise a stink. You don&#8217;t have to be rude, but be certain to be assertive and to stick up for your rights. This can be difficult since large institutions seem strong, as if they have the weight of dollars and the law. But do it.</p>
<p>My brother has a story that boggles my mind. He and his wife had a credit card with Bank of America. They carried a balance for years, always sending payment just before the due date. Then they began to receive late fees. My brother called to find out why and was told that his payment was arriving the day after it was due. He thought this was a little odd since it had always arrived on time before, but he started mailing his payments a few days earlier. Still he got late fees. He paid even earlier. Eventually <i>he was mailing payment on the day he received his bill</i>. Still he was charged late fees. Naturally, he blew a gasket. &#8220;How in the hell can I possibly pay you any sooner?&#8221; he ranted. &#8220;I&#8217;m mailing the bill on the day I receive it and you guys still claim it&#8217;s arriving a day late.&#8221;</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t have a good answer for that one.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a loan with citibank once, I always got my payments in on time except one which because of a job switch I had to wait an additional 2 weeks for my by weekly paycheck. I didn’t think this was possible but after one late payment my interest rate jumped to 35%. My monthly payments went from $150 a month to over $500. It completely messed everything up because I couldn’t afford the new payments and I ended up paying that loan 10 times over before I finally was able to just pay the whole thing off.

That was a quick lesson with both loans and citibank for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a loan with citibank once, I always got my payments in on time except one which because of a job switch I had to wait an additional 2 weeks for my by weekly paycheck. I didn’t think this was possible but after one late payment my interest rate jumped to 35%. My monthly payments went from $150 a month to over $500. It completely messed everything up because I couldn’t afford the new payments and I ended up paying that loan 10 times over before I finally was able to just pay the whole thing off.</p>
<p>That was a quick lesson with both loans and citibank for me</p>
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		<title>By: honeybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>honeybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of the time a hospital threw me straight into collections -- no bill mailed, no phone call, nothing. Poof, straight to the agencies.

How can they get away with it? Simple. They have paperwork departments; you have you. The relative impact of you fighting a wrong charge -- any kind of thing that requires administrative pursuit -- is tiny for them and enormous for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the time a hospital threw me straight into collections &#8212; no bill mailed, no phone call, nothing. Poof, straight to the agencies.</p>
<p>How can they get away with it? Simple. They have paperwork departments; you have you. The relative impact of you fighting a wrong charge &#8212; any kind of thing that requires administrative pursuit &#8212; is tiny for them and enormous for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citibank is showing its lack of class....I recently cancelled my card with the final payment and a written letter.  They refused to close my account and charged another $2.22 in finance charges.  I then paid that, and again asked for my account to be closed.  (I saw that the yearly fee was coming up the next month, and knew they would try to keep my account open so they could collect the fee!).  The next month I received the statement, and guess what???? Still open.  they then proceeded to attempt to add late charges, the next year&#039;s fee, and more interest to a card I had not used in 6 months!!!  I finally got the fees removed and the card closed.....but beware......they are sticking it to their customers!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citibank is showing its lack of class&#8230;.I recently cancelled my card with the final payment and a written letter.  They refused to close my account and charged another $2.22 in finance charges.  I then paid that, and again asked for my account to be closed.  (I saw that the yearly fee was coming up the next month, and knew they would try to keep my account open so they could collect the fee!).  The next month I received the statement, and guess what???? Still open.  they then proceeded to attempt to add late charges, the next year&#8217;s fee, and more interest to a card I had not used in 6 months!!!  I finally got the fees removed and the card closed&#8230;..but beware&#8230;&#8230;they are sticking it to their customers!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: icup</title>
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		<dc:creator>icup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Are you keeping your statements from 7 years back?

I don&#039;t see how they can assess late fees for loans that were paid in full. When you pay a student loan off, you typically get your promissory note back stamped &#039;paid in full&#039;. That should be more than enough evidence to dispute any charges on a closed account. OF course, you would have to tell citibank to F-- off, and have them report you to the agencies to dispute it like that, so maybe its better to just pay the $40.

I really feel for you though. I usually check all of my financials at least once a week. I think after reading this i&#039;m going to up that to 2x a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Are you keeping your statements from 7 years back?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how they can assess late fees for loans that were paid in full. When you pay a student loan off, you typically get your promissory note back stamped &#8216;paid in full&#8217;. That should be more than enough evidence to dispute any charges on a closed account. OF course, you would have to tell citibank to F&#8211; off, and have them report you to the agencies to dispute it like that, so maybe its better to just pay the $40.</p>
<p>I really feel for you though. I usually check all of my financials at least once a week. I think after reading this i&#8217;m going to up that to 2x a week.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Citibank Student Loan and noticed a another scam. All of the sudden I automatically stopped receiving a paper bill. At the time I relied on paper bills to keep track of what needs to be paid. It never got in my pipeline and never was paid. And a late fee occurred.   

When I realized I hadn&#039;t made a payment, I went online to check the total due and pay the bill. They required 5 security questions. I forgot one question and my online account was locked. I had to call to have my account reinstated. They purposefully made it very difficult to pay my bill on time. 

And then they proceeded to ask me why I hadn&#039;t paid on time. &quot;Did you lose your job?&quot; the rep asked. I said &quot;No, you never sent me a Bill&quot;. &quot;OK&quot;, he replied. &quot;No it&#039;s not OK&quot;. 

This is a scam. 

It&#039;s a win-win for the bank. If the customer does not act, they will be charged late fees and don&#039;t have the cost of sending a paper bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Citibank Student Loan and noticed a another scam. All of the sudden I automatically stopped receiving a paper bill. At the time I relied on paper bills to keep track of what needs to be paid. It never got in my pipeline and never was paid. And a late fee occurred.   </p>
<p>When I realized I hadn&#8217;t made a payment, I went online to check the total due and pay the bill. They required 5 security questions. I forgot one question and my online account was locked. I had to call to have my account reinstated. They purposefully made it very difficult to pay my bill on time. </p>
<p>And then they proceeded to ask me why I hadn&#8217;t paid on time. &#8220;Did you lose your job?&#8221; the rep asked. I said &#8220;No, you never sent me a Bill&#8221;. &#8220;OK&#8221;, he replied. &#8220;No it&#8217;s not OK&#8221;. </p>
<p>This is a scam. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a win-win for the bank. If the customer does not act, they will be charged late fees and don&#8217;t have the cost of sending a paper bill.</p>
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