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	<title>Comments on: Ready to Tackle Your Debt? Two Alternatives to Home Equity Loans</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, most credit card companies will refuse to reduce APR's when you have substantial debt on their cards.I have 4 BOA accounts, two of which are business related. One account had no balance, but a 18.9% rate.  I called BOA &#38; they refused to lower any of the APR's including the line with no balance.  Their response: Too much Debt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, most credit card companies will refuse to reduce APR&#8217;s when you have substantial debt on their cards.I have 4 BOA accounts, two of which are business related. One account had no balance, but a 18.9% rate.  I called BOA &amp; they refused to lower any of the APR&#8217;s including the line with no balance.  Their response: Too much Debt!</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup &#124; Generation Y Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup &#124; Generation Y Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christmas And Credit - Plus, A Stroll Through My Blogroll</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/12/13/ready-to-tackle-your-debt-two-alternatives-to-home-equity-loans/#comment-108816</link>
		<dc:creator>Christmas And Credit - Plus, A Stroll Through My Blogroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tackling Debt Without Using A Home Equity Loan - a post by Get Rich Slowly. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ricardo Bueno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo Bueno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In ending your post you made a point that I wanted to lend emphasis to...

If you want to tackle your debt effectively, it starts with a conscious decision to exercise frugal spending habits in your day-to-day! Otherwise the cycle repeats itself...you use one credit line to pay off the other, only to max out the original credit card again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In ending your post you made a point that I wanted to lend emphasis to&#8230;</p>
<p>If you want to tackle your debt effectively, it starts with a conscious decision to exercise frugal spending habits in your day-to-day! Otherwise the cycle repeats itself&#8230;you use one credit line to pay off the other, only to max out the original credit card again.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it at Jason!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep it at Jason!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We decided against the HELOC and decided to just plow through our debts one at a time, in Dave Ramsey snowballing fashion.  We are only about 30% of the way through our debts, but we have already eliminated 4 monthly payments 3 credit cards and 1 revolving loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We decided against the HELOC and decided to just plow through our debts one at a time, in Dave Ramsey snowballing fashion.  We are only about 30% of the way through our debts, but we have already eliminated 4 monthly payments 3 credit cards and 1 revolving loan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just minutes ago, I called Citi and got them to match the 0% balance transfer rate of an offer I got in the mail. It'll go up after a year, but to a much lower rate than my original. 

I don't know how much it helped, but I was sweet as peaches to everyone I talked to. Quite apart from the strategic value of niceness, I figured that while they may represent an Evil Empire, they're actually just people with families putting in thankless call center hours coming up on the holidays.

Anyway, I think it also helped that I said I couldn't possibly use the card in the foreseeable future because the APR kept me on the verge of my limit. (Sad but true. This one's a couple steps down on the snowball.) The friendly-voiced fellow on the line reviewed my history and said he'd like to see me pay down the amount and free up some spending room. That's not remotely why I want to pay it down, but whatever work for him, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just minutes ago, I called Citi and got them to match the 0% balance transfer rate of an offer I got in the mail. It&#8217;ll go up after a year, but to a much lower rate than my original. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much it helped, but I was sweet as peaches to everyone I talked to. Quite apart from the strategic value of niceness, I figured that while they may represent an Evil Empire, they&#8217;re actually just people with families putting in thankless call center hours coming up on the holidays.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think it also helped that I said I couldn&#8217;t possibly use the card in the foreseeable future because the APR kept me on the verge of my limit. (Sad but true. This one&#8217;s a couple steps down on the snowball.) The friendly-voiced fellow on the line reviewed my history and said he&#8217;d like to see me pay down the amount and free up some spending room. That&#8217;s not remotely why I want to pay it down, but whatever work for him, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I would love to know how often people are successfully able to get their APR lowered.  I used to have three loaded cards but was recently able to pay one of them off completely.  So I called the card I paid off and politely asked for a reduced APR.  They told me I "didn't currently have an offer for a lower APR."  She wouldn't even pretend to negotiate with me.  I continued to politely explain that the card was paid off, so if I couldn't get it lowered, I'd simply cancel the card.  She didn't care.

So I called my other two cards, got the EXACT same answer, even after I said I'd just cancel the card.  They didn't care one whit about losing my business.  I actually suspect this is because I always pay on time and over my minimum, and I actually have kind of low APRs to begin with (11, 12, and 15%), so I'm actually not the greatest customer for them.

I'm totally appalled at their reaction to my request.  One woman was downright rude to me, like I was bothering her with my silly request.  Unbelievable.  So I just opened some new 0% cards, transferred and canceled the old ones, but that's annoying because I keep dinging my credit score.

So really, does that work for anyone??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I would love to know how often people are successfully able to get their APR lowered.  I used to have three loaded cards but was recently able to pay one of them off completely.  So I called the card I paid off and politely asked for a reduced APR.  They told me I &#8220;didn&#8217;t currently have an offer for a lower APR.&#8221;  She wouldn&#8217;t even pretend to negotiate with me.  I continued to politely explain that the card was paid off, so if I couldn&#8217;t get it lowered, I&#8217;d simply cancel the card.  She didn&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>So I called my other two cards, got the EXACT same answer, even after I said I&#8217;d just cancel the card.  They didn&#8217;t care one whit about losing my business.  I actually suspect this is because I always pay on time and over my minimum, and I actually have kind of low APRs to begin with (11, 12, and 15%), so I&#8217;m actually not the greatest customer for them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m totally appalled at their reaction to my request.  One woman was downright rude to me, like I was bothering her with my silly request.  Unbelievable.  So I just opened some new 0% cards, transferred and canceled the old ones, but that&#8217;s annoying because I keep dinging my credit score.</p>
<p>So really, does that work for anyone??</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know why this isn't discussed more, but I have been rolling my CC debt from 0% interest card to 0% interest card for about three years now.

Obviously, this is nothing to brag about, but I haven't paid any finance charges on this debt.

Simply google for "zero percent interest credit cards".  There is one website that ranks the best ones and tell you all the variables in an easy to compare chart.

Just make sure you pick one with no TRANSACTION FEE.

I'm currently on a Discover Miles 0% for 12 mos. card and the miles paid for a hotel room and will pay for a car rental next year.

Although, I admit, this is not the most motivating way to pay down CC debt.

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why this isn&#8217;t discussed more, but I have been rolling my CC debt from 0% interest card to 0% interest card for about three years now.</p>
<p>Obviously, this is nothing to brag about, but I haven&#8217;t paid any finance charges on this debt.</p>
<p>Simply google for &#8220;zero percent interest credit cards&#8221;.  There is one website that ranks the best ones and tell you all the variables in an easy to compare chart.</p>
<p>Just make sure you pick one with no TRANSACTION FEE.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently on a Discover Miles 0% for 12 mos. card and the miles paid for a hotel room and will pay for a car rental next year.</p>
<p>Although, I admit, this is not the most motivating way to pay down CC debt.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to emphasize on the point J.D. and the King of Debt made earlier. Shifting your debt from high-interest credit cards to low-interest HEL is something that MIGHT help you to get out of dept (Congratulations J.D. You accomplished something really worth to be proud of :-) ). But it might also help you to get into even more dept. One of the largest full service banks in the world is very well known for it's pratice to offer customers to shift several smaller loans (such as credit card dept) into a single one (for a better overview and a less complex dept structure, though usually not low interest), which effectively allows the customers to max out their credit cards once again accumulating more dept. This enables the bank to max out their profit. 

Like J.D said: "So if you fail to change the habits that led you into debt in the first place, you will likely accumulate even more debt in the long run. Most importantly, a home equity loan puts your house at risk — credit cards do not." So think twice before you shift your credit card dept to a new loan. If alternative ways of paying of debt don't work, neither will shifting your debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to emphasize on the point J.D. and the King of Debt made earlier. Shifting your debt from high-interest credit cards to low-interest HEL is something that MIGHT help you to get out of dept (Congratulations J.D. You accomplished something really worth to be proud of <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). But it might also help you to get into even more dept. One of the largest full service banks in the world is very well known for it&#8217;s pratice to offer customers to shift several smaller loans (such as credit card dept) into a single one (for a better overview and a less complex dept structure, though usually not low interest), which effectively allows the customers to max out their credit cards once again accumulating more dept. This enables the bank to max out their profit. </p>
<p>Like J.D said: &#8220;So if you fail to change the habits that led you into debt in the first place, you will likely accumulate even more debt in the long run. Most importantly, a home equity loan puts your house at risk — credit cards do not.&#8221; So think twice before you shift your credit card dept to a new loan. If alternative ways of paying of debt don&#8217;t work, neither will shifting your debt.</p>
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		<title>By: FinanceAndFat</title>
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		<dc:creator>FinanceAndFat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. The true solution is really learning about frugality and breaking free from our consumerist culture. That's the only reason I'm able to pay off my debt now- because I changed what I spent my money on, not because I found some magical debt payoff formula.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. The true solution is really learning about frugality and breaking free from our consumerist culture. That&#8217;s the only reason I&#8217;m able to pay off my debt now- because I changed what I spent my money on, not because I found some magical debt payoff formula.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very good ideas. HELs might work, but what matters most is that you learn and start paying off everything. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very good ideas. HELs might work, but what matters most is that you learn and start paying off everything. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you're not up to your eyeballs in debt, it can be worth it to call you credit card company and ask for a better deal. When I graduated from college and my credit started to improve, the offers in the mail were improving too, so I called my current credit card company and asked them to offer me a better deal so I would stick with them. They reduced my rate by about 3% and added a rewards plan to my card.

I have only paid interest on the card one or two times, but it's nice to have a lower rate, and the rewards come in handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you&#8217;re not up to your eyeballs in debt, it can be worth it to call you credit card company and ask for a better deal. When I graduated from college and my credit started to improve, the offers in the mail were improving too, so I called my current credit card company and asked them to offer me a better deal so I would stick with them. They reduced my rate by about 3% and added a rewards plan to my card.</p>
<p>I have only paid interest on the card one or two times, but it&#8217;s nice to have a lower rate, and the rewards come in handy.</p>
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		<title>By: King of Debt</title>
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		<dc:creator>King of Debt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend to anyone that is considering paying down their debt with a home equity loan to consider alternative options. 

The problem with paying off debt with debt, is that you can always add more credit card debt.

You have to solve the spending issues first, then your debt elimination can be successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend to anyone that is considering paying down their debt with a home equity loan to consider alternative options. </p>
<p>The problem with paying off debt with debt, is that you can always add more credit card debt.</p>
<p>You have to solve the spending issues first, then your debt elimination can be successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot to be said for the experiences that lead us to understand life (finances, education, insurance, whatever!).  The fact that you learned from your home equity experience, and will pass the information on to others, makes your learning exponentially more powerful.  Thanks for sharing, and also for passing along the debt snowball!
Jerry
www.leads4insurance.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot to be said for the experiences that lead us to understand life (finances, education, insurance, whatever!).  The fact that you learned from your home equity experience, and will pass the information on to others, makes your learning exponentially more powerful.  Thanks for sharing, and also for passing along the debt snowball!<br />
Jerry<br />
<a href="http://www.leads4insurance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.leads4insurance.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We learn the hard way about everything in life. We fall then we find ways to rise. However how would be teach or instill good spending and saving habits in children? I look at mine and wonder where do I start? I want to better equip them before they get that first credit card and fall into the traps of consumer debts! Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We learn the hard way about everything in life. We fall then we find ways to rise. However how would be teach or instill good spending and saving habits in children? I look at mine and wonder where do I start? I want to better equip them before they get that first credit card and fall into the traps of consumer debts! Any ideas?</p>
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