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For the past few months, a gym to which I used to belong has been sending me “special offers” in an attempt to entice me to return. Because I’ve begun focusing on fitness, these almost work. But so far frugality has prevailed.
It bugs me, though, that the “limited time offer” isn’t so limited. First it expired at the end of November, then the end of December, then the end of January, and now the end of February. I know that this is an attempt to create urgency, but it seems disingenuous if they’re just going to make the same offer next month.
Worse, check out the main body of the mailing:

There’s no enrollment fee. Great! That sounds good. But wait. What’s this? There’s a minimum charge of $39 for a set-up fee? What’s a set-up fee? How does that differ from an enrollment fee? And what’s this “as low as $39″ stuff?
I decided to phone the East Side Athletic Club to find out.
By any other name…
A friendly young woman took my call. “Hi. I’m thinking of joining a gym and was wondering if you could tell me what your rates are,” I said.
“Sure,” said the friendly young woman. “Right now we’re running a special where we’re waiving the $200 enrollment fee and there’s a set-up fee of only $79. An executive membership for a single person is $54 per month. A normal membership is only $47 per month.”
“What’s the difference between an enrollment fee and a set-up fee?” I asked.
“An enrollment fee is like an initiation fee,” said the friendly young woman. “A set-up fee covers the cost of your paperwork.”
“I don’t understand,” I said.
“Basically, instead of $200 to get started, it’s just $79,” said the friendly young woman.
Checking out the competition
Out of curiosity, I phoned three other local health clubs. David at 24 Hour Fitness refused to quote me a price over the phone. “We have like twelve different plans,” he said. “It’s impossible to give you a price unless you’re here and looking at our book. Would you like to make an appointment to come in?”
“I just want a basic membership,” I told him.
“We don’t have a basic membership,” he said. “Everything is tailored to your needs.”
What I needed was somebody to give me a price over the phone. I called Bally Total Fitness. Rick was willing to give me a price, but “they change day-to-day” he confided.
“What?” I said.
“The prices change day-to-day. The basic initiation fee is $150, and a single membership is $48 a month, but right now you could get half off enrollment and a membership for $35-$40 per month,” he said. “Tomorrow it’ll probably be different. It just depends on when you come in. Sometimes there’s no initiation fee and the first month is free.”
Finally, I called Nelson’s Nautilus, a local gym that I belonged to a decade ago. I have fond memories of the place: nice facilities, friendly employees, and members who were serious about fitness, not preening.
“How much is a basic membership for a single person?” I asked Heather.
“You have three options,” she said. “For a month-to-month membership with no contract, the first month is $89 and the cost is $41 month after that. For a 12-month contract, the first month is $69 and then the cost is $33. If you want to sign up for two years, the first month is $59, and then it’s just $29 a month.”
“What about a membership fee or a set-up fee?” I asked.
“Uh, we don’t have any of those,” she said. “The first month costs a little more because we have to do a membership card, but that’s it.”
Conclusion
There’s no chance that I’ll rejoin the Eastside Athletic Club. Aside from some bad experiences during my previous membership, I feel like their advertising borders on shady. Plus they’re the most expensive option. (Though they’re also the closest option.)
The two national chains are also out of the running. For the record, the 24 Hour Fitness web site does quote a price, which makes me wonder why David could not. Right now there’s no initiation fee, no “processing fee”, and a single membership costs $39 per month. (Or $199 per year.)
If I do sign up for a gym — which seems unlikely — I’ll choose Nelson’s Nautilus. They’re local, cheap, friendly, and honest. But the truth is I’ve belonged to fitness clubs many times in the past. Mostly, I pay and never go. This is dumb. For the time being, I’ll focus on free activities I can do at home: walking, biking, and — most of all — lots of Dance Dance Revolution.
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February 4th, 2008 at 5:09 am
You don’t need a globogym! Check out crossfit.com and you’ll see how you can do a great work out in your garage…
February 4th, 2008 at 5:17 am
It is funny you have posted about gyms as I have been looking at some in the past few weeks. Joining fees etc I won’t voice what I think about them. In Japan there are joining fees for everything which I refuse to pay so go without. But for my health I need to join a gym and, well I have to pay that darn fee. I’ll be scaling back on coffee to help pay for what I won’t be saving so all is not bad I guess.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:27 am
I work at a “Women’s only gym”. You know the one. We are always running some kind of “special” that is never really that great of a deal.
It is never a straight-forward deal. They have to make it confusing so the customer thinks it’s a great deal. I always have to refer to the latest paperwork just to figure it out myself.
We aren’t actually supposed to give any prices over the phone. We are supposed to get them in for an appointment so we can tell them they are at risk of health problems and pressure them to sign up regardless of price. I hate that part of my job.
On the other hand, it is a great place to work out, that’s why I got the job, so I can work out there for free!
February 4th, 2008 at 6:00 am
Ugh.
UGH.
When my wife and I were shopping for a gym we ran in to the same &#*$ thing. All anyone wanted to do over the phone was tell us how awesome their gym was, so we decided to go check a few of them out in person.
They all felt like car dealerships. With each one, we told them at the outset we were just shopping, that we weren’t ready to make a commitment yet. Yet each one tried to pressure us into signing up right then.
At one local place, after they explained their extremely complicated (read: arbitrary) rate structure, we told them that their prices and facilities seemed excellent, but that since we were shopping around, we’d have to get back with them the next day. The guy then told us that if we waited till the next day, the arbitrary initiation price would go up by $150. Since that’s the financial equivalent of him telling me, “If you don’t sign up now, I’ma punch your face!”, my wife and I decided not to give them any of our money. I mean, geez! Think about that. They guy was actually threatening to do us (financial) harm if we didn’t make an uninformed decision right then. Does that tactic actually *work* on anybody?
We ended up joining the local YMCA. It’s close, has pretty good facilities, and though the month to month price is a little more expensive than some places we looked at, they didn’t treat us like crap when asked about their rates. When we called to ask about the rates, they just told us what the prices were…imagine that.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:05 am
Gyms and gym memberships typically have the most complicated and difficult to understand terms and contracts to sign, which might be the most annoying thing in the world. When I moved in to Chicago, I had about a month between when I moved in to when I started work, so I spent that time working out and looking for a gym. Most of the gyms in the city give you 2 days - 14 days free trial, so I was able to work out for the entire month without signing a contract or putting down any cash. This allowed me to see what the gyms were really like (actual working out? preening? too busy during peak times to get a bench?)
This made my decision easy, and I was able to join a *great* gym, near my house, where I literally work out 6 days a week. Sure, it might cost $65 a month, not have a track/pool/steam room etc. like the other, less costly gyms, but I am motivated to go, it’s not busy, and I get a great workout in. Plus, the workers know my name and invite me to go out with them at nights and on the weekends.
Everyone should be able to find a gym like mine, but you just have to take the time to look, and commit to going x number of days a week to make it worth your while.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:29 am
arrgghhh, this makes me want to boil over… it’s not just shady but so disrespectful! These tactics assume the customer (uh, I mean “client”) is stupid. This is the kind of sales approach that gave car dealers a bad name. Im with you–go with the straightforward honest business if you choose to join a gym!
February 4th, 2008 at 6:30 am
I joined my gym several years ago because the prices were cheap and there was no enrollment fee because the gym hadn’t been built. I just got a letter (Jan.20) saying my rate was going up on Feb.01, even though the gym is always packed with new members. I don’t understand why they can’t raise the prices for the new members and keep my rate the same. I love my gym, so I’ll pay the extra fee, but it’s irritating. If they increase it again, I may have to stop going.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Just a quick note to anyone thinking of joining a gym. NEVER NEVER NEVER let them draft your checking account of debit card. The only card you should ever let them draft is a credit card. These gyms are notorious for continuing to draft money after you have canceled your membership. So if you use a credit card you can dispute the charges and there is nothing they can do about it.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:38 am
Yeah, J.D., but what are you going to do about strength training? Walking, biking, and Dance Dance aren’t going to give you upper-body strength. I currently belong to a gym, but I’m looking into getting a “Total Gym,” you know, those machines that Chuck Norris and Christi Brinlkey promote on TV. I’m also in physical therapy right now, and my PT highly recommends them.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Uncle Midriff says: “We ended up joining the local YMCA. It’s close, has pretty good facilities, and though the month to month price is a little more expensive than some places we looked at, they didn’t treat us like crap when asked about their rates. When we called to ask about the rates, they just told us what the prices were…imagine that.”
Same here, agree 100%. JD, check your local YMCA.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:49 am
This type of price-distortion is pretty commonplace across industries. Companies make money by obfuscating the true price of something, making it more of an effort to shop around (think mortgages with all of their miscellaneous fees, tax preparation agencies, or even cabinet installations).
I guess I’m kind of lucky with Fitness First… lots of locations and equipment, $35 a month for a 1-year contract, no other charges or gimmicks.
February 4th, 2008 at 7:19 am
To me a gym is very important. Its the only way I’ll exercise (I’ve proven this to myself many times). But to me the main criteria in selecting one is proximity to home and convienance. If it isn’t close to my home and easy enough to get to, I won’t go. I tried one close to work, problem was I didn’t want to work out after work, I wanted to go home. I tried a less expensive one further from my house - I never went. For me that is the most important factor in choosing a gym.
February 4th, 2008 at 7:26 am
My wife Julie hates gyms. She has her Nordictrack and watches TV. We both enjoy DDR (reminds me to play tonight).
There’s a local gym chain in DC called Fitness First. It’s a no frills gym, and also no gimmicks. 38 bucks a month, and the only catch is that you must sign a 1 year contract. I see the Finance Monk is also a member. Shoutout! I don’t use the gym as much as I should or could, but the price is fair.
February 4th, 2008 at 7:29 am
Oooooh how I HATE gym fees! I joined a Bally’s several years back, and made sure to ask a dozen times whether I could cancel whenever I wanted to. I was assured that yes, I could cancel at any time, and all I’d lose was the initiation fee. Several months later, I decided that it wasn’t worth the money, and tried to cancel. I told them I had asked when I joined, etc etc… They said I’d owe the entire three-year contract that I never signed up for! I spent many, many hours on the phone trying to sort it out, always with the same message “you’re screwed, you signed the contract, it doesn’t matter what we told you.” So I stopped paying entirely, sent letters to the Better Business Bureau, and sent letters to the local chamber of commerce. Bally’s collection agency took me to court, and I fought it. Eventually, it must have occurred to them that they were paying their lawyer more to fight me in court than my contract was worth, so they dropped the case.
I learned later that my story is INCREDIBLY common, especially with Bally’s, who’ve been investigated numerous times for fraudulent and manipulative practices.
I now go to my local Gold’s Gym, with a $40 month-to-month membership that I KNOW I can cancel at any time. So much easier!
February 4th, 2008 at 7:39 am
Hello and Greetings,
This is my first post here but I have been reading the blog for many and months and I love it!
JD you could buy a simple model of a Total Gym or even better a used one.
I have one it cost me $200.00 in Sears I have saved hundreds of dollars in Gym memberships and fees and still have it !! This considering that I pay less for gyms because I live near to the local college and I get ex-alumni benefits, I would pay $50.00 a year for the gym + $20.00 parking facilities for a semester and the facilities are better than any private commercial gym.
The results with this Total Gym machine are really better than using pulling machines because you use your own weight and because you have a longer range of motion. The result you don’t feel all tensed up and stiff after a workout but loose. Also a good alternative is to buy the Block dumbbell system If heard its awesome and with a set of dumbbells and a basic bench you could get much better results that with any pulling machine.
February 4th, 2008 at 7:48 am
This is in line with the YMCA advice, If your local park district has gym facilities, they’re usually a good bargain (assuming you’re going to use them). You’re already partially paying them with tax dollars. Ours has a reasonable ($25) monthly fee with maybe $10 to create your card at the beginning.
February 4th, 2008 at 7:49 am
If you have a local YMCA, join that. There is absolutely no BS with the Y. There’s a joiner fee, but sometimes they waive that during promotions. Otherwise, it’s a flat rate and no contracts. At least for the YMCA of Metropolitan Chicago, anyway. I really like the Y.
February 4th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Make the sale when excitement/interest is at its peak (can’t build excitement over the phone). Get the customer to commitment to as long a period as possible. That is the MO of this industry (in general, there are some exceptions).
February 4th, 2008 at 7:50 am
I’ve had the same experience with 24 Hour Fitness. Even used a trainer once (under their $99 for 5 half sessions promotion); I was very specific about what I wanted to learn more about, but it was basically a sales pitch and not tailored to my needs. But there’s a local gym in my neighborhood that is like your Nelson’s Nautilus … very up front and open. More focused on catering to its customers than trying to get more money through the door. It’s nice that there ARE gyms like that.
February 4th, 2008 at 7:56 am
Great post!
I too used to join many gyms, and normally did not get my money’s worth. To date I’ve run four marathons, no gym, just invested in great running shoes.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:09 am
I’ve gotten the hard sell at many gyms I’ve checked out, but what they don’t get is that some people, like me, won’t sign up simply because their sales tactics are so transparent and ridiculous.
The last gym I tried, about a year ago, was Gold’s. In their initial evaluation, they said I needed to lose 20 lbs. I was a size 6, and hadn’t weighed 20 lbs less since junior high–you know, before puberty? I laughed at them, and then they said I might not need to lose quite that much. Then this tanned gym rat who basically answers the phones tried selling me these vitamins because I told them I’m a pescatarian (only meat I eat is fish). She wasn’t a nutritionist. Wasn’t even a trainer.
I obviously did not sign up at the end of my free week. I bought the 5-Factor Fitness book and did the workout routines. All you need is a weight bench, weights, and some form of cardio–I walk and jump rope. I somewhat follow the diet in the book, but the recipes don’t appeal to me. I also use a caliper to get an idea of fat vs. lean tissue, and I zig zag calories (a few days of lower calories, then one day higher). After a year, I’m almost the same weight, but I’ve had to buy smaller clothes and I can see serious definition in my arms, abs, and legs. I’m thrilled because I care about being strong and toned, not seeing the scale number drop 20 lbs.
@ The Saving Freak–that very thing happened to me with automatic withdrawl. When I finally got it to stop, two years later the gym was bought out, and the new gym that took over started to bill me. TWO YEARS LATER. Ridiculous.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:10 am
I belong to a Health and Raquet Club that is also my child’s before and after school care (and summer camp in the summer). I get a discount of $10.00 per month during the school year and $10.00 per week during the summer for her tuition if I’m a memeber of the Health Club. There was no fee to join and I had to sign a year contract. The monthly fee is $42.00 per month.
The beauty of this plan? My company reimburses me in full for my gym membership. So basically, I’m not out the gym fee and I get a discount on child care. Now, that’s what I call a deal!!
Oh, and I don’t go to the gym either!
February 4th, 2008 at 8:15 am
I was really suprised when I went to a Gold’s Gym and the gal that was behind the desk told me everyone was out and she couldn’t give me a price. WTF?? I went to another place and the lady that gave me a tour wrote down the price and a plain slip of paper. She practically leaned over and cupped her hand around it like she was afraid someone else would see. Give me a break! It’s like thay are making up prices as they go along. Could you imagine McDonalds not having a menu board and the cashiers wrote the price of your burger and fries on a little slip of paper. “This is the price today. If you come back tomorrow you’ll have to pay more”.
I think the golden rule here is - if someone is pressuring you to buy today - walk away.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Hi J.D.
It is funny you mention gyms as I have tried a few times to quit Fitness First (UK gym, very popular) whom I took out a 12-month contract with last year. They told me I needed to give them at least one month’s notice, and come in to fill out “formal leaving papers” or write them a letter. I asked if I could email or fax them a letter. They said no, and encouraged me to come in, and even offered a free “personal training session”. Finally, I decided to write the letter, and winced as I placed a perfectly good stamp on it, and mailed it.
Two days later I got a phonecall from the gym telling me I would need to pay a month longer than expected. Turns out the “special offer” (which was the reason I took the membership out in the first place) of the first month being free, meant the contract would extend a further month to allow 12 full payments. I was not told this when I took the contract out, and was absolutely confounded. The girl who told me this even added “If you would like to defer your membership to a friend, we can do that. There’s just a £30 fee”.
So I said goodbye, and hung up. I actually feel cheated, and completely cynical about taking out another gym membership. They will try to weadle as much money out of you as they can, until you finally wise up and stop giving them money. But at least I will soon be free.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:23 am
I’ve had good luck with Planet Fitness. Their philosophy fits the frugal mindset–no classes, no trainers, no cafe with expensive energy drinks (just a refrigerator with a few for those that really want them).
They provide plenty of cardio and weight equipment and a shower/locker room. They do have the “limited time offers” but they don’t vary too widely, and they’re all pretty cheap (maxing out at $20/month with unlimted guests).
I use them in the winter when it’s too cold and dark to run (the cheapest form of exercise).
February 4th, 2008 at 8:27 am
first my story, then some advice.
when I first moved to Vancouver (1990) I bought an Entertainment / Gold book from someone at the office. My reasoning was that the book would help me navigate this new city, try out new restaurants and attractions with a friend and save 50%. One of the coupons in the back of the Entertainment / Gold book was for 50% off a lifetime membership to Fitness World: $250 instead of $500 with a monthly fee of $9.99 thereafter. This was in the time when these memberships were still legal. A friend and I signed up and are - to this day - paying the fixed fee of $9.99 a month. FW is still BC’s largest network of gyms, they keep their equipment up to date, some of the locations have pools and tracks, others focus more on the machines. It was a good deal then, and because they have kept up with their agreement this is an *outstanding* deal now. Their current deal is $49 a month I believe, and lifetime agreements are no longer legal to offer in BC.
So my advice - if you have a Gold book in Portland (or equivalent thereof) check the coupons for gyms, you might find a deal in there for the monthly fees, maybe even waiving the ‘initiation’ fee.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I have read through the other comments and see there are others who are perfectly happy with a Fitness First membership. I just wanted to post my story as a cautionary tale, not just to that particular gym but to all gyms. NOT to sign a contract until you have read and understood all the fine print!! To be honest I’d be happier with one of the other American gyms mentioned with no fees, one fixed payment and the ability to quit at any time.
February 4th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Kerstin
Perhaps the US Fitness First is different than the UK one?
February 4th, 2008 at 9:19 am
If you work a few hours at a gym, the membership will most likely be free.
I teach swim lessons at a beautiful community center. The days and amount of hours I want to schedule myself are up to me. I have some co-workers who put in only 2 hours a week.
Aside of being paid, my membership and all the amenities are totally free. I even received a coupon for one session with a personal trainer. This situation also sets me up to not make any excuses for why I cannot find the time to work out — I’m in the gym, in my suit, ready to go!
You might want to see if there is an athletic skill you can peddle, or volunteer somehow. I’ve been further trained to teach water aerobics (paid by the gym), and I’m thinking about what it would take to teach spin.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:27 am
When we moved to American Fork, UT we looked into Gold’s gym. The process of just finding the price was totally heinous. You have to meet with some musclehead who quotes you what they think is an amazingly good deal and tells you he can only guarantee it until 6 pm (that night!). I don’t do rushed financial decisions, so we just tossed his quote in the trash on the way out.
The next day we went to the city fitness center. We signed up there, for less money, nicer staff, and more classes and facilities. We go there 4-5 times a week and love every minute of it!
February 4th, 2008 at 9:39 am
24-hour is a ripoff, not to mention disgusting. They never clean the place.
Join the YMCA like the other suggested. Also, this is specific to Portland, but the Lloyd Athletic Club/10th Avenue Athletic club has the same or less for rates and they are great. They give you towels, they clean the equipment and the showers. etc.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:40 am
I’m lucky and have a totally reputable local Nautilus franchise. I know they guy who owns it and he’s always been totally straight with me even to the point of talking me out of spending money sometimes. I’ve had a membership there two or three times but never made it work. My solution is a bike and a Bowflex in the basement (both bought a long time ago but only truly being used regularly in the last 5 months). No lines, no excuses - I can workout whenever I have the time. My experience has been like April D’s - I haven’t lost much weight but my clothes are inexplicably becoming baggy lately and I’m starting to see some muscle appear. Most importantly, I *feel* better.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Having a gym membership to me is a huge drain on finances, and I personally decided to workout at home. I actually posted about why I workout at home on my blog today.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:59 am
I second the CrossFit suggestion! I spent the last TEN YEARS doing an hour of cardio a day. I’m still fat.
In one month of CrossFit style training, I’ve lost five pounds and an inch off my waist. I’m NOT dieting. If I watch my nutrition, who knows.
If you don’t have time to work out a CrossFit style routine for yourself, well welcome to the real world Neo. Check out these two programs (I am currently doing Afterburn):
Alwin Cosgrove (Afterburn)
http://alwyncosgrove.blogspot.com/
Craig Ballantine (Turbulence Training)
http://turbulencetraining.blogspot.com/
These are both very similar to P90X but without the hype and price tag. The only thing you will really need is a chin up bar.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Also, my fiance belongs to a gym, but he enjoys playing basketball and using the cardio theatre. He meets up with one of our friends and they workout in the mornings. He goes 4-5 times a week, so for him, I think it’s worth it.
Me? I’d rather just get home early and workout then. It depends on your personality, but if I did join a gym, I’d look at the YMCA, as a few others have mentioned, or start going to the boxing gym again, which is a little out of my way now, but NOT full of a lot of B.S.
February 4th, 2008 at 10:26 am
JerichoHill - I don’t think so.
But I do agree the practices may differ in the US.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
I joined a gym in December 2006 and have found that I absolutely love it. It’s called Fitness 19 and is a growing chain. It’s a month-to-month membership and a single membership will never go above $19 (hence, the name). I pay $17.11/month since I was one of the first 200 people to sign up.
This place has really great equipment and their staff is always cleaning, I’m very impressed.
The things that it lacks are shower facilities, pool, and classes of any sort (aerobic, etc.) But, I wouldn’t use those features anyway. I’d rather use my own shower.
I think I paid maybe $150 in fees when I signed up and there’s a $10 yearly “club enhancement” fee.
Not too bad since I’ve kept up with the program. I’d never work out if I tried to do it all at home.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Right On! You don’t need a gym. I too have been sucked into the thought of “if I join the gym or buy a piece of exercise equipment, then I’ve started the process of slimming down. Yay!” But the truth is that the “start” is not the “journey”…you’ve got to be in it for the long haul.
Besides, philosopically, I hate the thought that I got a college education so that, in part, I could avoid manual labor but then I need to turn around and transport myself and pay good money so that I can *do* manual labor. That doesn’t ring right to me.
Better you walk around and enjoy the scenery or learn to bust some new dance moves, as you’re doing!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
The “Limited Time Offer” thing is just pretty standard in marketing. There are websites that update daily and say “this offer expires midnight (today’s date)” I run affiliate offers that are pretty much ongoing ( for example “Use this Code to Save 20% before Valentine’s Day” but then it updates to Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving…)
As a consumer you can use this to your advantage. You know the psychology of these offers and that the “limited” part is to make a sale. But you know the same or better offer will be there weeks or months from now. I keep this in mind whenever I get a new offer from Dell, or Godaddy, or Free shipping from Macy’s or 1 day only ebay fee discounts, and so on.
Some companies will even sweeten the offer for you to come back later. Usually when I am shopping online, I will add something to my cart and then leave before paying. This does a couple things- helps me think it over. If I forget to go back, it’s probably not something I really needed. Also many companies will followup wondering why you didn’t complete your order and offer some sort of incentive, a better deal.
I find since I am a ( small-time) entrepeneur but also a frugal consumer, I “get” the psychology of all sides and can get the best deals. I also LOVE junk mail ( I analyze it).
February 4th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
WTF? I hate the idea of membership prices that change day to day.
I think that if I ever had the money to join a gym, I’d buy an elliptical machine instead. That’s the only thing I ever use in gyms (college experience anyway) and I think I’d be much more motivated if I didn’t have to drive somewhere else.
Plus, no crazy membership fees.
February 4th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
+1 on crossfit (actually, +10), although it’s for people who want to reach elite fitness rather than trying to be healthy but not much else.
You can also get some home gym equipment instead of paying monthly fees. You can get something like bowflex or weider and a jump rope, and that will cost you a year’s gym membership but last much longer. Plus it’s more convenient and you don’t have to drive to the gym.
February 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I bought a year pass for our county recreation center. It’s not fancy but it has all the standard fitness machines and weights, and for $185 a year.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I wonder how much money a national gym could make if they stopped with the shadiness and simply made clear comprehensible rates available at all times (nothing wrong with a sale, though). It’s obvious they turn off a lot of people with these tactics. Is the problem that then they would have to pay their marketers more, because they wouldn’t be skimming cheesy commissions off the top?
February 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Corporate gyms and their shady sales pitches suck. My membership at 24 fitness included a backed-up toilet that was overflowing every time I entered the men’s room. I quit because of it (and because I felt swindled in the sleazy sales pitch) and actually had to change banks to get them to stop billing me, since they wouldn’t refund my money.
I now go to a local place that is honest and clear with it’s policies.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
JD–If you’re in East Portland out by mall 205 there’s this little community center on 105th or 106th I think. I haven’t been there in years (that’s my cover) but the last time i went the machines and free weights were nice and the cost was $5 to get in. And as Katirina R pointed out, you might have some crazy DDR education skills you can pawn off.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I got screwed by Fitness 1 a few years ago… same debit card scam that a few others mentioned above. It took one full year — and a registered letter threatening them with small claims court — before they finally stopped taking money from my account. I think the fact that I registered the letter made them realize I was serious!
I will never, ever, join a club again. Long live the Y!
February 4th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Just be smart with whatever fitness institution you go to.
I totally agree that they prey on the uneducated like a used car salesman. But, just like buying a car, if you are smart about, there’s a deal to be made on many of the national chains. I refused to join 24 hour fitness until I received an offer from a friend that worked there. She gave me a referral card that entitled me to: $24 dollars per month, no long term contract, and absolutely zero initiation/setup/membership card fee. That was a savings of 14 dollars a month over my previous membership.
Now the sales guy still tried to influence me to sign a long term deal. Something like 650 dollars up front for two years (not quite sure the exact amount), then 50 dollars a year after that.
Still not a bad deal, but nothing that I wanted to commit to at that time. I politely declined the offers stating that I wasn’t comfortable shelling out all of the money at hat time. Then he did the classic: “Well once you sign up you’ll never be able to get this deal again. You can’t just switch your month to month to a long term contract”. I then asked him what would happen if I cancelled my membership then reapplied from the long term rates. He didn’t really say much after that and just filled out my remaining paperwork.
February 4th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Every time I see anything on gym pricing structures, I think of this comic:
http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/070315.html
Enjoy.
February 4th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
24 Hour Fitness is so sleazy and I agree with an earlier commenter that the sales process is very much like buying a car.
I went in there with a two-week tryout coupon and the sales reps did everything they could to keep me from using it. (Huge red flag.) They kept coming back with new “deals,” none of them any better than the original. If I recall correctly, their deals included no less than three sets of superfluous fees: a membership fee, a “set-up” fee, and a membership card fee.
The gym was set up to drain as much money out of its members as possible. There was merchandise a plenty for sale, and while there were vending machines stocked with water bottles on every floor, there was only one water fountain in the entire building. Also, while it may seem petty, I can’t trust a business that has such expensive membership fees and yet can’t provide paper towels in the restrooms.
February 4th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
wow, i knew gyms were expensive but I didn’t know how much! My gym membership is $16 a month. One of the benefits of working for a university I guess…
February 4th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
J.D., another option besides the YMCA is the local Park District. Chicago Park District charges about $25 for three months for access to its fitness center.
You really don’t need a gym to train your body, though. Simplefit has a very straightforward program that doesn’t require much equipment and will get your whole body in shape. There’s also dumbbells, which are relatively inexpensive and are better for general strength and health than most gym machines because most exercises involving them work larger muscle groups than most of the machines. Finally, to train effectively without any equipment at all, check out Never Gymless. It’s cheap, but at the same time, it’s serious business.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I think about JD’s Ads I Hate posts when I see the new chase credit card commercial. The guy text Chase to see how much credit he has left on his card to buy the most expensive TV he can get.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
DDR is great exercise, especially on higher difficulties. I’m thrilled I’m not the only one to think so!
February 4th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Heh. I love this post.
I do believe the basic gym business model is based on having way more members join than use the gym on a regular basis. And then from there, its just a matter of convincing people to stay enthusiastic long enough to renew for another year– another year in which they mostly won’t use the gym.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
24 Hour Fitness are jerks. I’m trying to get my membership there cancelled but it’s not easy.
February 4th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Xsport Fitness in Chicago is one of the worst at this. They have a “processing fee” that they don’t tell you about until you are ready to sign and their 30 day money back is a joke. You have to go 10 days in the first 14 days as well as get an orientation with a trainer. Then you have to write them a letter and send it certified within 30 days. I’m convinced that nobody gets their money back. They are a dirty dirty company with terrible sleazy sales reps. There customer service is even worse. Never again!
February 4th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
I second/third the county/parks/city rec center option. My city has one and it’s 3.75 a day to use all the facilities, including drop-in classes. Sign-up fee is $5 for a card. It’s great.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Another PF blog (Lazy Man and Money?) had a post a few months ago with a link to a $149 yearly membership at 24 Hour Fitness through Costco.
The catch, apparently, is that there are a limited number of memberships available at that price, and when I checked it out, they were sold out.
Also, if you’re not already a Costco member, you’ll need to pay $50 for a yearly membership to get the $149 fitness deal.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I just looked it up, it was posted on Living Almost Large, and the post said it was $199.
But if you click on the link now, it’s not even listed, so I guess it’s no longer available.
February 5th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Hey, slight side issue, but if you like ddr you might want to have a look at Stepmania It’s a free DDR clone for the pc that has quite a large following of people who produce more songs for it. There’s quite a variety of music styles, and with the sheer number of songs available it’s unlikely you’d get bored any time soon with them. Plus it’s compatable with PS2-usb adapters, so you can plug your DDR pad into it.
February 5th, 2008 at 5:05 am
Kat:
I had the same problem with Bally’s. They were sending collectors after me YEARS after I told them I quit! Ugh!
There’s a 24 Hour Fitness Super Sport right across the street from me that I used to go to, and I really liked it. Friendly staff, a variety of classes, a pool, plenty of weight equipment and treadmills, etc. Plus their rates were reasonable for such a huge gym; I think I paid like $45 a month total. (There are more expensive options, but I chose one of the cheaper ones. I think there was an even cheaper one, but it would only allow me to work out 3 or 4 specific days during the week…) But because of my financial situation I ended up quitting and using the VERY small fitness room at my apartment complex instead (which is free). There’s no pool, no classes, much much less weight equipment and only one treadmill, but it’s enough to keep me in shape on the cheap.
I had no problem canceling my membership from 24 Hour Fitness, unlike those sleezes at Bally’s.
February 5th, 2008 at 6:45 am
It’s unfortunate, but most gyms use hard-sell tactics. They also make their money by signing people up who won’t actually use the facilities.
I decided that the most important thing for me was to join a gym I would actually use. That means it has to be convenient! Nothing matters as much as convenience when it comes to this decision.
If you choose to join a gym, treat it like buying a car. Always be willing to walk away from the table if the salesperson won’t negotiate with you. Ask to speak to the manager. Keep going up the chain until you get to someone who will help you. Come back another day and talk to a different salesperson. Know what you are willing to pay, just like when you are buying a car.
These guys make their money on commissions, and they often have a monthly quota. Go in at the end of the month for more bargaining power.
Read the contract carefully, and if there is anything on it that you don’t like, see if you can cross it out and both of you sign or initial that. Even if they say, “Oh, we won’t hold you to that,” just say, “Great! Then we’ll just cross it out.”
I don’t suppose my employer would like it much if I posted these tips to my blog!
February 5th, 2008 at 7:04 am
if you’re doing a gym at all, do the local ymca! the ones around here keep their prices low and have things like swimming pools instead of freaky stuff like in-gym tanning beds, and there’s all kinds of free classes (yoga being my favorite), which helps me to keep my workouts regular.
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February 5th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Geez, what a waste. I’m a member at Planet Fitness. It costs me $10 a month, $20 in October to cover equipment maintenance costs. There may have been a sign-up fee for the card, but it was small… I don’t even remember what it was. Gyms can be ridiculously overpriced because of stuff you’ll never use. Planet Fitness is perfect… just machines and a locker room (and tanning, if you’re into that).
February 5th, 2008 at 8:38 am
I saw some comments about a Y, which is a great idea.
Our town has a gym which I belong to. No b/s - $254 / year. My health insurance covers $250 of it. And because it’s not a big-name gym, at 6AM it’s mostly full of old people that just want to walk on the treadmills - so there’s no waiting in line to get to the weights.
February 5th, 2008 at 9:04 am
crossfit rocks. forget the gym.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
The best gyms I have used are either the Y, both YMCA and YWCA, or university gyms. At the Y you often pay much less and get much more than the types of gyms you refer to in your article. The Y offers many types of classes and if you have kids it can’t be beat. If the Y is not an option in your area, try the local university or community college. At our local community college you can take a gym class for $25 and have access to a terrific fitness facility, including all track and field, and olympic-sized pool.
February 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Don’t ask me how I did it. (i’m not even 100% sure) but I lucked into a deal at 24 hour fitness and I now pay 20$ a year for membership.
February 5th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Do you live near any community centers? The Portland Parks and Recreation community centers are a really good deal- $3 an entrance. The one in my neighborhood has a pool, sauna, and weight room. The classes are a seprate cost, but unlike a normal gym, you don’t end up paying for anything you don’t actually use. There’s also a yearly pass that’s a good deal if you use it enough.
February 5th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
I have to second (or third or fourth or fifth) the college/university option. The on near me lets any local alumni sign up, and it is so much cheaper than the other clubs. They don’t require a subscription either (you can go month to month). It if is a larger school, they usually have more classes and better equipment than the other clubs have as well.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
I have to second the Simplefit.org Bodyweight Exercises recommendation. In full disclosure, I moderate the forums there and do a few other things, but I found it 9 months ago (username: ucffool) and dove right in. I went from being unable to hang from a pull-up bar for more than 5 seconds, to doing 2 in a row.
Anyway, enough of that.
February 6th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
A couple of things have been successful for me:
1. Local community centers - some of these let you pay by the class, others you sign up by the quarter. I’ve had luck with them here in the Seattle area, and they’re pretty friendly.
2. Community Service! A year ago I discovered Washington Trails Association, an organization that does trail maintenance and construction across the state, and I now go out every weekend (yes, even in winter, in the rain, snow, whatever). This has done more to get me in shape than anything, and it’s amazing, in large part because though it’s exercise, the exercise is secondary to the day’s activities. Mostly we go out, do good work, get really dirty, and have a lot of fun. The WTA holds workparties near the Columbia River gorge (I know folks who drive up from Portland), and there may be organizations in Oregon who do similar things - who work, for example, on the Pacific Crest Trail. And, trailwork is totally free!!
February 7th, 2008 at 3:13 am
I’ve gone through the Golds and Bally experiences, and I have gone through the local mom and pop neighborhood gym. I have had mainly good experiences at all three of these, and liked the variety of machines and classes offered. Recently, though, I have been watching my budget. I still wanted a weekly workout beyond the basic gym setup I have here at home on universal and nautilus type equipment. Like ecp, I found that the local community center had a gym. But, my local community center offered a limited workout card. For something like $4 a workout, and with 30 workouts on the card, I am only charged when I am working out, and not when I am not in the gym. In the past when I was a member at Golds or Ballys I felt pressured by the money I spent to be in the gym more than I actually wanted to be, including when I was sick, but now I don’t sweat it.
February 7th, 2008 at 7:51 am
I have been a member at Ballys on and off since 1989. When I let my membership lapse they send me a ‘come back’ offer (very cheap $129/year). I let that one go they sent another with an even better offer ($99/yr). Last week they sent me an offer for $84/year!! Too bad I have 3 kids they can’t accomodate so we are at the YMCA instead. Cheers!
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February 11th, 2008 at 11:34 am
You should look into Loprinzi’s. It is a small thing in SE Portland that has a take-no-guff and give-no-guff attitude. You can just pay by the day when you come in if you like (about $5 if I remember). It is the sort of place you’d expect to find some large trapezoidal weights and fellows with fantastic mustaches. They don’t do the internet but there is a yelp entry.
February 16th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I love this post! It’s digging into something that I (perhaps secretly) think about all the time, but you’ve thrown in humor. I actually laughed out loud
Not to make light of your trials on the phone, but my personal experience with 24hourFitness (they make it one word, not me) has been really great.
To the guy’s credit, it is genuinely difficult (though not impossible) for them to quote you a package because there ARE so many packages. However, the REAL reason he won’t quote you is because they’re flexible when you beg and flirt. This is truth.
I joined 24hf in 2005. The sale advertised was for a $400 set-up fee, $30/month for life with a 2-year contract (for ONE gym - downtown Seattle). I went in and thought that joining just the one gym would be ok (it was over $1000 to have nationwide access - not money I had). But I went in wearing heels and shiny hair and found a muscle-y guy to talk membership with. Within an hour I had the deal down to $200 upfront and $15/month for life, no contract. I was still tied into one gym only, but that’s not the point. The point is that they don’t quote you because if you try hard enough, they’ll figure out a way to give you what you need and are willing to pay for. Also, I got 5 sessions with a trainer for free.
While I’m not advocating flirting with everyone to get what you want, it worked for me in this one instance (I was 19 at the time - I was allowed ;)).
Sometime last year I was working out and ran into an old friend from high school who had recently started working for the downtown 24hf. The next week, I went to transfer my membership to a gym uptown (I moved) and they mysteriously informed me that I hadn’t got a membership to only the downtown club, but to all clubs nationwide. I suspect my old friend did this for me as a friendly aside gift while I wasn’t there.
This all leads me to conclude that people controlling membership can basically do whatever they want as long as you nicely hassle them enough. I’ve had a great affordable plan with 24hf for three years and now I can visit them no matter where I live or travel! Just because the guy on the phone couldn’t quote you doesn’t mean that you can’t get a great price by going in. It worked for me, anyway.
February 27th, 2008 at 6:48 am
It is encouraging reading these posts. I am a personal trainer and private facility owner. I am currently restructuring my fees, and came across this site. I started my own business based on a lot of what you have posted as clients/customers. Lack of clear communication and the lack of what ‘personal’ means to personal training, to name a few. You know you are in trouble when you walk into a facility and the first thing you see are t-shirts for sale.
I too for many years was a member to a few local gyms(I am in jacksonville, fl.) I knew my gym days were over when the gym I had joined was charging me for ammenities that I never got to use. I never got to tan, and I didn’t have kids at the time, so I was paying for in house day-care. I just wanted to workout! The other part was the fact that the, ahem, trainers there seemed like I was bothering them to leave the counter they perched at to come give me a spot. The good old days. They forgot they were there for me. I have reamained word of mouth and stayed small, but this has allowed me intimate bonds with my clients and they know when it’s their time, IT’S THEIR TIME. I feel this places an even greater responsibilty on them to be accountable too, i.e., results.
There are more and more options though nowadays, and I like the fact the bigger chain-zillas are getting greedy. It means good business for me. My personal favorite is my newest client. She was telling me of the gym she got a membership to a month before coming to me. As she got out of her car to go inside, a STAFF member was out front smoking. Turns out, this is the trainer she got paired up with. She told me the trainer was, “going to call her if she wasn’t at the gym.” Right. Walk the walk? Something like that.
I applaud everyone’s posts as that you all are ‘active’ in your decision making process and not ‘prisoners of the moment’. Too many facilities use a customer/client’s initial energy and eagerness against them and get them to sign up for 101 different classes and machines, when they might only need 2 or 3 to start out with. True professionals KNOW that basics work. Hundreds of machines and tons of classes look fantastic for validating high costs, and inflated overhead, but not for practicality.
Keep up the fitness vigilance people, it’s not a race but a pursuit.
April 8th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
I worked in the health club industry for 9 years (for 3 different clubs) and I’ve done it all: front desk, personal training, sales, manager. . . I would NEVER pay an enrollment fee! (Although I did charge them. Gotta make a buck right?)
Specials don’t ever really end, the big thing they want is for you to sign the contract so they can get their monthly due for a year or whatever. That’s how they really run the place. It never hurts to ask your sales associate to talk to their manager because 150-200 is not going to fly with you. If they wont do it tell the sales guy to keep your info and call you when the no enrollment deal comes up again, because it will!