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	<title>Comments on: Another Reason to Be Wary of Gift Cards</title>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/03/06/another-reason-to-be-wary-of-gift-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-122833</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s odd that I&#039;m reading this now, as earlier I was checking the stock on something sold at Brookstone and noticed they were redeeming Sharper Image gift cards *and* giving you a 25% off in store if you do so:

http://brookstone.com/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s odd that I&#8217;m reading this now, as earlier I was checking the stock on something sold at Brookstone and noticed they were redeeming Sharper Image gift cards *and* giving you a 25% off in store if you do so:</p>
<p><a href="http://brookstone.com/" rel="nofollow">http://brookstone.com/</a></p>
<p>Should have an image at the top/left.</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I never gave it much thought. Though, when you wrote, &quot;Did you know that when you buy a gift card, you’re essentially loaning money to a company?&quot; I was all, &quot;...Duh?&quot;

The only thing I use gift cards for is getting gas from Sam&#039;s Club (they don&#039;t accept cash). Currently, I have yet to start a job, and haven&#039;t had a job since August &#039;06 or so. All I have is $20 allowance each week.

Well, I&#039;ve recently gotten my license, and I&#039;m rather stubborn about paying for my own gas when I can (I&#039;ve been selling my possessions on craigslist. Gets me cash and gets rid of the useless crap taking up space around the house). The only thing, though, is that Sam&#039;s won&#039;t let me pay for gas with cash. However, they will accept WalMart gift cards.

So, I go over to WalMart, I hand them the cash and tell them I want X amount put on this ugly little gift card. I take the gift card over to Sam&#039;s Club, fill my tank with gas, and drive away happy.

To be honest, though, I hate gift cards. I&#039;d much rather have the money as money. I can stick it in the bank then, and be able to pay to transfer a couple of domains to my favoured host, instead of having to look around at a jewlery store, trying to figure out what is the least repulsive item I can buy (gaudy seems to be &quot;in&quot; this decade [[shudders]]).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I never gave it much thought. Though, when you wrote, &#8220;Did you know that when you buy a gift card, you’re essentially loaning money to a company?&#8221; I was all, &#8220;&#8230;Duh?&#8221;</p>
<p>The only thing I use gift cards for is getting gas from Sam&#8217;s Club (they don&#8217;t accept cash). Currently, I have yet to start a job, and haven&#8217;t had a job since August &#8217;06 or so. All I have is $20 allowance each week.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ve recently gotten my license, and I&#8217;m rather stubborn about paying for my own gas when I can (I&#8217;ve been selling my possessions on craigslist. Gets me cash and gets rid of the useless crap taking up space around the house). The only thing, though, is that Sam&#8217;s won&#8217;t let me pay for gas with cash. However, they will accept WalMart gift cards.</p>
<p>So, I go over to WalMart, I hand them the cash and tell them I want X amount put on this ugly little gift card. I take the gift card over to Sam&#8217;s Club, fill my tank with gas, and drive away happy.</p>
<p>To be honest, though, I hate gift cards. I&#8217;d much rather have the money as money. I can stick it in the bank then, and be able to pay to transfer a couple of domains to my favoured host, instead of having to look around at a jewlery store, trying to figure out what is the least repulsive item I can buy (gaudy seems to be &#8220;in&#8221; this decade [[shudders]]).</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dana: I signed up for the Kroger card a couple of years ago and have yet to receive any junk mail. Their discounts with the card are great and they mentioned when I signed up that they only use the card for regional spending analytics, not individual spending tracking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dana: I signed up for the Kroger card a couple of years ago and have yet to receive any junk mail. Their discounts with the card are great and they mentioned when I signed up that they only use the card for regional spending analytics, not individual spending tracking.</p>
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		<title>By: Links: Rental Nightmares, Housing Cares, Buffett Shares, and More &#187; My Money Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/03/06/another-reason-to-be-wary-of-gift-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-122001</link>
		<dc:creator>Links: Rental Nightmares, Housing Cares, Buffett Shares, and More &#187; My Money Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of GetRichSlowly points out another reason to be wary of gift cards. If you have some Sharper Image gift cards - congratulations! They&#8217;re [...]</description>
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<p>[...] of GetRichSlowly points out another reason to be wary of gift cards. If you have some Sharper Image gift cards &#8211; congratulations! They&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lisa:  CVS has some good deals with their card once in a while.  We&#039;ve gotten free items from them before.  You may be able to beat some of their prices at a grocery store even after the CVS card discount but you sure can&#039;t beat free.

I&#039;ve found some pretty good deals with the Kroger card too.  And as they will *not* honor their card prices if you don&#039;t actually *have* the card, it helps to have it.

Some people get really paranoid about privacy issues with store cards.  My philosophy is, &quot;So give them a fake name and/or address when you sign up.&quot;  They&#039;ll never again in their lives ask you for ID if you pay with cash and use their discount card.  The only time this works against you is if they have a program where they send you coupons in postal mail.  Otherwise it really doesn&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lisa:  CVS has some good deals with their card once in a while.  We&#8217;ve gotten free items from them before.  You may be able to beat some of their prices at a grocery store even after the CVS card discount but you sure can&#8217;t beat free.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found some pretty good deals with the Kroger card too.  And as they will *not* honor their card prices if you don&#8217;t actually *have* the card, it helps to have it.</p>
<p>Some people get really paranoid about privacy issues with store cards.  My philosophy is, &#8220;So give them a fake name and/or address when you sign up.&#8221;  They&#8217;ll never again in their lives ask you for ID if you pay with cash and use their discount card.  The only time this works against you is if they have a program where they send you coupons in postal mail.  Otherwise it really doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rich:  Some stores are changing those rebate practices.  I love Micro Center for that very reason:  they do instant rebates when you buy the item.  This means fewer people forgetting to cash them in, and it doesn&#039;t take nearly as long to benefit.  I got my laptop that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rich:  Some stores are changing those rebate practices.  I love Micro Center for that very reason:  they do instant rebates when you buy the item.  This means fewer people forgetting to cash them in, and it doesn&#8217;t take nearly as long to benefit.  I got my laptop that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Gift Cards for Experiences vs. Gift Cards for Stuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gift Cards for Experiences vs. Gift Cards for Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news is that they&#8217;re not accepting their own gift cards anymore. JD at Get Rich Slowly thinks this is a big reason to be wary of gift cards. You paid them money to buy their special money (card) but the special money no longer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Bankruptcy Lawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Bankruptcy Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the MSNBC article is, frankly, incorrect. Several bankruptcy courts (including the court for the district of Delaware, where Sharper Image&#039;s case is pending) have held that vouchers, gift certificates, and the like are deposits. As such, they are entitled to priority in the bankruptcy case--which means that while they may not be paid in full, they will be paid before other unsecured claims are paid. (See section 507(a)(6) of the Bankruptcy Code according priority status to customer deposits.) 

This means that you could file a claim in the Sharper Image case and get up to $25 for your $25 gift card. This is actually a heck of a lot better than redeeming your $25 gift card for 1/10 of an Ionic Breeze, IMHO.

If you go to the Web site of Sharper Image&#039;s claims administrator, kccllc.net/sharperimage, you can read the pleading filed with respect to gift cards. (It is the motion to continue customer programs.) Sharper Image does NOT request authority to continue to honor gift cards, but acknowledges that gift card holders may be entitled to priority treatment of their claims down the road. 

Again, what this means is that gift card holders will likely receive some payment on their claims, and quite possibly 100 cents on the dollar. This is very different than all the buzz going around about gift cards becoming &quot;worthless&quot; in a bankruptcy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the MSNBC article is, frankly, incorrect. Several bankruptcy courts (including the court for the district of Delaware, where Sharper Image&#8217;s case is pending) have held that vouchers, gift certificates, and the like are deposits. As such, they are entitled to priority in the bankruptcy case&#8211;which means that while they may not be paid in full, they will be paid before other unsecured claims are paid. (See section 507(a)(6) of the Bankruptcy Code according priority status to customer deposits.) </p>
<p>This means that you could file a claim in the Sharper Image case and get up to $25 for your $25 gift card. This is actually a heck of a lot better than redeeming your $25 gift card for 1/10 of an Ionic Breeze, IMHO.</p>
<p>If you go to the Web site of Sharper Image&#8217;s claims administrator, kccllc.net/sharperimage, you can read the pleading filed with respect to gift cards. (It is the motion to continue customer programs.) Sharper Image does NOT request authority to continue to honor gift cards, but acknowledges that gift card holders may be entitled to priority treatment of their claims down the road. </p>
<p>Again, what this means is that gift card holders will likely receive some payment on their claims, and quite possibly 100 cents on the dollar. This is very different than all the buzz going around about gift cards becoming &#8220;worthless&#8221; in a bankruptcy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Morning Link Love ~ Clocks Forward Edition &#124; I've Paid For This Twice Already...</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/03/06/another-reason-to-be-wary-of-gift-cards/comment-page-1/#comment-121703</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Morning Link Love ~ Clocks Forward Edition &#124; I've Paid For This Twice Already...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Get Rich Slowly: Another Reason to be wary of Gift Cards. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Get Rich Slowly: Another Reason to be wary of Gift Cards. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: financialgal</title>
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		<dc:creator>financialgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be particularly wary of gift certificates and gift cards from local retailers. Smaller stores are more likely to go out of business without warning.  I saw that firsthand with a local jewelry/gift store that suddenly went out of business.  The brides that had registered for gifts at the store were unable to redeem the gift certificates they received from family and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be particularly wary of gift certificates and gift cards from local retailers. Smaller stores are more likely to go out of business without warning.  I saw that firsthand with a local jewelry/gift store that suddenly went out of business.  The brides that had registered for gifts at the store were unable to redeem the gift certificates they received from family and friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Things I Learned This Week &#171; Kreblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Things I Learned This Week &#171; Kreblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cards are worthless after stores go belly up&#160;(bastards&#8230; get in line to get your money [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JenK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JD - No, I guess I don&#039;t read Ramit&#039;s site. I probably own stock in it too via my mutual funds, but that&#039;s real diluted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JD &#8211; No, I guess I don&#8217;t read Ramit&#8217;s site. I probably own stock in it too via my mutual funds, but that&#8217;s real diluted.</p>
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		<title>By: JACK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JACK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you are using gift cards yourself to try and pick up some advantages (buy 100 dollars and get a 25 dollar gift certificate), I really don&#039;t see the concern.

If you gave it away as a gift, it may be disappointing that the person never got to use it, but how is that unique to gift cards?  Plenty of gifts go unused.

And if you got one and didn&#039;t use it, have you really lost that much?  Yes, you lost the opportunity to use it and so if you wanted to replace the card you would be out the replacement cost.  But as bummed as you might be, wouldn&#039;t you just say, oh well, it was a gift.  Besides, bankruptcies usually don&#039;t happen overnight.  In the grand scheme, it&#039;s a small sliver of cards that will get caught in any sort of received-it-just-before-a-card-freeze trap.  Most cards go unused because people are lazy or they don&#039;t really want anything from the store that the card relates to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you are using gift cards yourself to try and pick up some advantages (buy 100 dollars and get a 25 dollar gift certificate), I really don&#8217;t see the concern.</p>
<p>If you gave it away as a gift, it may be disappointing that the person never got to use it, but how is that unique to gift cards?  Plenty of gifts go unused.</p>
<p>And if you got one and didn&#8217;t use it, have you really lost that much?  Yes, you lost the opportunity to use it and so if you wanted to replace the card you would be out the replacement cost.  But as bummed as you might be, wouldn&#8217;t you just say, oh well, it was a gift.  Besides, bankruptcies usually don&#8217;t happen overnight.  In the grand scheme, it&#8217;s a small sliver of cards that will get caught in any sort of received-it-just-before-a-card-freeze trap.  Most cards go unused because people are lazy or they don&#8217;t really want anything from the store that the card relates to.</p>
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		<title>By: icup</title>
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		<dc:creator>icup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t get the Sharper Image. That store seems to me to be about as useful as Skymall, if Skymall sold only useless products like ionizing air cleaners, motorized tie racks, and desktop mini golf sets. 

My gift cards given and received are usually from corporate juggernauts that aren&#039;t going anywhere anytime soon like Barnes &amp; Noble and Target.

If I ever receive them from local businesses, I usually try to cash them in right away just for this very reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t get the Sharper Image. That store seems to me to be about as useful as Skymall, if Skymall sold only useless products like ionizing air cleaners, motorized tie racks, and desktop mini golf sets. </p>
<p>My gift cards given and received are usually from corporate juggernauts that aren&#8217;t going anywhere anytime soon like Barnes &amp; Noble and Target.</p>
<p>If I ever receive them from local businesses, I usually try to cash them in right away just for this very reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My company held several contests about safety awareness in the work place, and the winners received gift cards without the paperwork. They started charging a monthly maintenance fee right away, with no waiting for activation or anything. By the time I used mine a few months later, it was almost worthless. I was furious. If I&#039;d had the brochure, I would have known, and I&#039;d have used it all right away. Here I was saving it for a meal out (a frugal treat) and it ended up screwing me over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company held several contests about safety awareness in the work place, and the winners received gift cards without the paperwork. They started charging a monthly maintenance fee right away, with no waiting for activation or anything. By the time I used mine a few months later, it was almost worthless. I was furious. If I&#8217;d had the brochure, I would have known, and I&#8217;d have used it all right away. Here I was saving it for a meal out (a frugal treat) and it ended up screwing me over.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate gift cards.  I understand the intention, but at the end of the day, cash or check would be better.  If you wanted to appear somewhat thoughtful but didn&#039;t know what to get someone, why not just put something in the card along the lines of &quot;enjoy spending this at store x or on gift x&quot;?  There are no fees associated with cash/check and they don&#039;t become worthless after a certain amount of days.  And you&#039;re not locking someone into spending money at a specific store.  

And rebates suck.  I never consider them in my purchase.  It is beneficial to the rebate company to honor as few as possible.  Why go through all that hassle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate gift cards.  I understand the intention, but at the end of the day, cash or check would be better.  If you wanted to appear somewhat thoughtful but didn&#8217;t know what to get someone, why not just put something in the card along the lines of &#8220;enjoy spending this at store x or on gift x&#8221;?  There are no fees associated with cash/check and they don&#8217;t become worthless after a certain amount of days.  And you&#8217;re not locking someone into spending money at a specific store.  </p>
<p>And rebates suck.  I never consider them in my purchase.  It is beneficial to the rebate company to honor as few as possible.  Why go through all that hassle?</p>
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		<title>By: Becky@FamilyandFinances</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky@FamilyandFinances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also thought that it was really wrong that The Sharper Image won&#039;t accept it&#039;s own gift cards.  That&#039;s ridiculous!
Rebates also irritate me, though I still apply for them.  I sent three rebates in from a computer I bought my parents last Christmas and I&#039;m STILL waiting on one!  Give me a break!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also thought that it was really wrong that The Sharper Image won&#8217;t accept it&#8217;s own gift cards.  That&#8217;s ridiculous!<br />
Rebates also irritate me, though I still apply for them.  I sent three rebates in from a computer I bought my parents last Christmas and I&#8217;m STILL waiting on one!  Give me a break!</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man and Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man and Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm, it just seems wrong that they&#039;d not have to honor gift cards.  Perhaps there should be some legislation that the funds from a gift cards go into an escrow account until they are redeemed or until 10 years passes.  That would allow some protection for the consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, it just seems wrong that they&#8217;d not have to honor gift cards.  Perhaps there should be some legislation that the funds from a gift cards go into an escrow account until they are redeemed or until 10 years passes.  That would allow some protection for the consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m of two minds regarding this and, as a personal finance blogger, maybe you&#039;ll be able to dig deeper into this question that I have.

A while ago, I read this in TIME magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1713478,00.html

Scroll down a little bit to where it talks about Economy and you&#039;ll see a point there that is essentially the opposite of what you&#039;re saying.  

Which one is the truth?  And how could two such conflicting views be given equal air time if one&#039;s true and the other&#039;s not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m of two minds regarding this and, as a personal finance blogger, maybe you&#8217;ll be able to dig deeper into this question that I have.</p>
<p>A while ago, I read this in TIME magazine:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1713478,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1713478,00.html</a></p>
<p>Scroll down a little bit to where it talks about Economy and you&#8217;ll see a point there that is essentially the opposite of what you&#8217;re saying.  </p>
<p>Which one is the truth?  And how could two such conflicting views be given equal air time if one&#8217;s true and the other&#8217;s not?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love getting gift cards. I try to only give them to those that I know enjoy them, too.  I don&#039;t think they should get a bad rap because of a few bad experiences.  

I think rebates and store cards are a rip-off, though.  I used my CVS extra care card once with a CVS coupon I had &quot;earned&quot;, to buy CVS brand mouthwash that was on sale for half price, and it was still more expensive then buying the local grocery store brand.

Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love getting gift cards. I try to only give them to those that I know enjoy them, too.  I don&#8217;t think they should get a bad rap because of a few bad experiences.  </p>
<p>I think rebates and store cards are a rip-off, though.  I used my CVS extra care card once with a CVS coupon I had &#8220;earned&#8221;, to buy CVS brand mouthwash that was on sale for half price, and it was still more expensive then buying the local grocery store brand.</p>
<p>Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way that gift cards are really a scam is that many people lose or never use the cards.  This is free money for the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way that gift cards are really a scam is that many people lose or never use the cards.  This is free money for the company.</p>
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		<title>By: an9ie</title>
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		<dc:creator>an9ie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate gift cards when I receive them, but having an expiry date and being restricted to shopping at one place really get me. 

I do wish people would feel more comfortable giving money. Perhaps it&#039;s a cultural thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate gift cards when I receive them, but having an expiry date and being restricted to shopping at one place really get me. </p>
<p>I do wish people would feel more comfortable giving money. Perhaps it&#8217;s a cultural thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love receiving gift cards, especially if it is to a place that I like, or want to try.  I have gotten ones that I have not used, but that is unusual.

I had no idea that if the company filed for reorg. that the gift card would lose its  value.  Good information to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love receiving gift cards, especially if it is to a place that I like, or want to try.  I have gotten ones that I have not used, but that is unusual.</p>
<p>I had no idea that if the company filed for reorg. that the gift card would lose its  value.  Good information to know.</p>
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		<title>By: metroknow</title>
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		<dc:creator>metroknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were given a $100 gift card when we sold our house, which was a really nice gesture by our realtor. 

Unfortunately, after 6 attempts to get it activated, being pushed from help person to help person, we finally gave up. Felt an awful lot like a really good unethical way to keep my realtor&#039;s $100 bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were given a $100 gift card when we sold our house, which was a really nice gesture by our realtor. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, after 6 attempts to get it activated, being pushed from help person to help person, we finally gave up. Felt an awful lot like a really good unethical way to keep my realtor&#8217;s $100 bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really like gift cards unless its for gas or groceries.  There is no one store where I spend enough money to use a gift card regularily.  My husband&#039;s office gives away gift cards to the nearby mall for birthdays, holidays etc.  I&#039;m always  in a pinch to spend that money - I just don&#039;t buy stuff in stores anymore and its hard for me to spend $25 in the mall.  Gift cards are great for kids and teenagers, but they just don&#039;t cut it for adults.  My parents and in-laws just cut us a check for holidays and I love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really like gift cards unless its for gas or groceries.  There is no one store where I spend enough money to use a gift card regularily.  My husband&#8217;s office gives away gift cards to the nearby mall for birthdays, holidays etc.  I&#8217;m always  in a pinch to spend that money &#8211; I just don&#8217;t buy stuff in stores anymore and its hard for me to spend $25 in the mall.  Gift cards are great for kids and teenagers, but they just don&#8217;t cut it for adults.  My parents and in-laws just cut us a check for holidays and I love it!</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Rich&lt;/b&gt;
Yeah, rebates tick me off, too. I know some people who are *very* meticulous about their rebates, keeping a spreadsheet of information, saving all the paperwork, etc. I&#039;ve tried to do something similar, but I&#039;m just not that organized.

The way I look at rebates is this: I&#039;ll buy an item if it&#039;s a good deal at the listed price. If it has a rebate, then fine. I&#039;ll apply for it. But I don&#039;t include it in my purchase decision. In this way, if the rebate processes correctly, it&#039;s like bonus money. If I don&#039;t look at rebates this way, it&#039;s like money lost when I purchase something and the rebate never comes.

&lt;b&gt;@JenK&lt;/b&gt; 
Ugh. Did you see my guest post at Ramit&#039;s site yesterday? I own stock in The Sharper Image, a foolish foolish thing that I&#039;ll write about here at GRS when the dust has settled...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Rich</b><br />
Yeah, rebates tick me off, too. I know some people who are *very* meticulous about their rebates, keeping a spreadsheet of information, saving all the paperwork, etc. I&#8217;ve tried to do something similar, but I&#8217;m just not that organized.</p>
<p>The way I look at rebates is this: I&#8217;ll buy an item if it&#8217;s a good deal at the listed price. If it has a rebate, then fine. I&#8217;ll apply for it. But I don&#8217;t include it in my purchase decision. In this way, if the rebate processes correctly, it&#8217;s like bonus money. If I don&#8217;t look at rebates this way, it&#8217;s like money lost when I purchase something and the rebate never comes.</p>
<p><b>@JenK</b><br />
Ugh. Did you see my guest post at Ramit&#8217;s site yesterday? I own stock in The Sharper Image, a foolish foolish thing that I&#8217;ll write about here at GRS when the dust has settled&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JenK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you own a gift card to a bankrupt company, you’re basically a tiny creditor. And if the company goes bankrupt, the bigger creditors get their money first. You’re last in line.&lt;/i&gt;

Not to mention that the stock is likely worthless.  The SEC has info on corporate bankruptcy&#039;s effects on stockholders and bondholders at: http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/bankrupt.htm

One quote: 
Although a company may emerge from bankruptcy as a viable entity, generally, the creditors and the bondholders become the new owners of the shares. &lt;b&gt;In most instances, the company&#039;s plan of reorganization will cancel the existing equity shares.&lt;/b&gt; This happens in bankruptcy cases because secured and unsecured creditors are paid from the company&#039;s assets before common stockholders. And in situations where shareholders do participate in the plan, their shares are usually subject to substantial dilution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you own a gift card to a bankrupt company, you’re basically a tiny creditor. And if the company goes bankrupt, the bigger creditors get their money first. You’re last in line.</i></p>
<p>Not to mention that the stock is likely worthless.  The SEC has info on corporate bankruptcy&#8217;s effects on stockholders and bondholders at: <a href="http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/bankrupt.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/bankrupt.htm</a></p>
<p>One quote:<br />
Although a company may emerge from bankruptcy as a viable entity, generally, the creditors and the bondholders become the new owners of the shares. <b>In most instances, the company&#8217;s plan of reorganization will cancel the existing equity shares.</b> This happens in bankruptcy cases because secured and unsecured creditors are paid from the company&#8217;s assets before common stockholders. And in situations where shareholders do participate in the plan, their shares are usually subject to substantial dilution.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gift cards are ok for the most part unless the company has problems like Sharper Image is experiencing. 

My big beef comes from rebates (legalized money laundering as I like to call them). You purchase something for full price. If you are diligent about mailing in the rebate and completing the information correctly, you can be forced to wait 2 - 8 months for your rebate. Not to mention if you do apply for a rebate and the company goes out of business before they fulfill the rebates (This happened to me with a software purchase a few years ago). 

If you get something for free as a result of a rebate, (IE: free movies with the purchase of a HD DVD player) then it is not too bad, but when you are paying full price up front for items expecting a rebate check in the mail it is no fun wondering if and when you will be paid. 

To make this rebate situation worse, you could be forced to use a gift card or visa debt card to redeem your rebate (Major cell phone company did this to me recently). 

I don&#039;t think rebates should be legal because companies are taking money from consumers, investing it how they want, and paying the consumer back, if and when they want. 

You might ask, &quot;do you still purchase items with rebates?&quot; Yes, unfortunately I do, but I know the risks involved and most of the time it turns out ok. I just don&#039;t like how shady the rebate business practices can be. 

Hope to hear J.D.&#039;s take some day on rebates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gift cards are ok for the most part unless the company has problems like Sharper Image is experiencing. </p>
<p>My big beef comes from rebates (legalized money laundering as I like to call them). You purchase something for full price. If you are diligent about mailing in the rebate and completing the information correctly, you can be forced to wait 2 &#8211; 8 months for your rebate. Not to mention if you do apply for a rebate and the company goes out of business before they fulfill the rebates (This happened to me with a software purchase a few years ago). </p>
<p>If you get something for free as a result of a rebate, (IE: free movies with the purchase of a HD DVD player) then it is not too bad, but when you are paying full price up front for items expecting a rebate check in the mail it is no fun wondering if and when you will be paid. </p>
<p>To make this rebate situation worse, you could be forced to use a gift card or visa debt card to redeem your rebate (Major cell phone company did this to me recently). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think rebates should be legal because companies are taking money from consumers, investing it how they want, and paying the consumer back, if and when they want. </p>
<p>You might ask, &#8220;do you still purchase items with rebates?&#8221; Yes, unfortunately I do, but I know the risks involved and most of the time it turns out ok. I just don&#8217;t like how shady the rebate business practices can be. </p>
<p>Hope to hear J.D.&#8217;s take some day on rebates.</p>
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		<title>By: Tana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a gas station here in town where we live that got bought out by another company. They put signs on all the pumps that they did not honor gift cards from the previous company (which no longer existed so it wasn&#039;t like you could just go somewhere else). 

I thought it was terribly tacky. When you buy a business, since it is established, the assumption is that you get the clientele along with it. I mean, that&#039;s the beauty of buying a business that is already established.

So to say that you aren&#039;t going to honor gift cards issued under the previous business name is kind of like a slap in the face to your existing - probably loyal - customers. 

I didn&#039;t have a gas card there or anything, but as a result of those little signs, I make it a point to NOT buy gas there. I mean, who wants to do business with people like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a gas station here in town where we live that got bought out by another company. They put signs on all the pumps that they did not honor gift cards from the previous company (which no longer existed so it wasn&#8217;t like you could just go somewhere else). </p>
<p>I thought it was terribly tacky. When you buy a business, since it is established, the assumption is that you get the clientele along with it. I mean, that&#8217;s the beauty of buying a business that is already established.</p>
<p>So to say that you aren&#8217;t going to honor gift cards issued under the previous business name is kind of like a slap in the face to your existing &#8211; probably loyal &#8211; customers. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have a gas card there or anything, but as a result of those little signs, I make it a point to NOT buy gas there. I mean, who wants to do business with people like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gift cards get a bad rap. I love getting American Express gift cards because it allows me to take my fiance out to dinner and doesn&#039;t hurt the wallet.</description>
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