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	<title>Comments on: A Meeting of Minds: Ten Personal Finance Bloggers Talk About Money</title>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do all of these financial blogs looks so bad design-wise? There are plenty of free wordpress themes that could suffice.  I won&#039;t read something if it is horrible to look at...just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do all of these financial blogs looks so bad design-wise? There are plenty of free wordpress themes that could suffice.  I won&#8217;t read something if it is horrible to look at&#8230;just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey J.D., it was great to meet I just wanted to say thanks again for being a part of this and posting your thoughts here.  The challenge is always taking the great ideas and incorporating them into something concrete, but that&#039;s what drives me and I think there was a lot of great insight into all the different aspects of how people think about and manage their money.  Thanks to the GRS readers too for the comments in the last post, I won&#039;t get into whose readers are best ;-), but that thread is a treasure trove for anybody trying to build pf tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey J.D., it was great to meet I just wanted to say thanks again for being a part of this and posting your thoughts here.  The challenge is always taking the great ideas and incorporating them into something concrete, but that&#8217;s what drives me and I think there was a lot of great insight into all the different aspects of how people think about and manage their money.  Thanks to the GRS readers too for the comments in the last post, I won&#8217;t get into whose readers are best <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , but that thread is a treasure trove for anybody trying to build pf tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first off, i think its awesome that you bloggers got together - 

second of all - i think its great to post links to others&#039; blogs ... 

third of all - i also like hte fact that people share how they track their finances.. from Quicken, to Money, to excel - it can get a little daunting - so thank you so much for giving the wide spectrum of ideas. 

you guys are doing an awesome job!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first off, i think its awesome that you bloggers got together &#8211; </p>
<p>second of all &#8211; i think its great to post links to others&#8217; blogs &#8230; </p>
<p>third of all &#8211; i also like hte fact that people share how they track their finances.. from Quicken, to Money, to excel &#8211; it can get a little daunting &#8211; so thank you so much for giving the wide spectrum of ideas. </p>
<p>you guys are doing an awesome job!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Curt at PennyJobs.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt at PennyJobs.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That was a very interesting article about how financial bloggers actually think about money and blogging. 

The unanswered question about how to reach people before they are in a financial crisis is a common problem. There are a lot of people living beyond their means with unavoidable financial problems - yet they are not ready to talk about it until they hit the bottom. The &#039;Status Syndrome&#039; is closely related to this. Many people are more afraid of social perception then financial collapse. They would rather look good in the eyes of their neighbors - then put their kids through college. 

I would like to see the leading financial bloggers tackle this issue. Why do people make decisions that prop up their insecurities - while putting the future of the family at risk? Why are the emotions of social status that powerful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That was a very interesting article about how financial bloggers actually think about money and blogging. </p>
<p>The unanswered question about how to reach people before they are in a financial crisis is a common problem. There are a lot of people living beyond their means with unavoidable financial problems &#8211; yet they are not ready to talk about it until they hit the bottom. The &#8216;Status Syndrome&#8217; is closely related to this. Many people are more afraid of social perception then financial collapse. They would rather look good in the eyes of their neighbors &#8211; then put their kids through college. </p>
<p>I would like to see the leading financial bloggers tackle this issue. Why do people make decisions that prop up their insecurities &#8211; while putting the future of the family at risk? Why are the emotions of social status that powerful?</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a real who&#039;s who of the PF blogging world.  Most of the names listed (including you, J.D.) are the ones that inspired me to start my own blog.  I especially appreciated the comments regarding the time invested in building a blog.  You are correct, us beginners had no idea what it really required behind the scenes to continually crank out quality content AND handle the many administrative responsibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a real who&#8217;s who of the PF blogging world.  Most of the names listed (including you, J.D.) are the ones that inspired me to start my own blog.  I especially appreciated the comments regarding the time invested in building a blog.  You are correct, us beginners had no idea what it really required behind the scenes to continually crank out quality content AND handle the many administrative responsibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great wrap-up!  Going out to SF to meet you and the others was a fun experience, and well worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great wrap-up!  Going out to SF to meet you and the others was a fun experience, and well worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting all these great personal finance blogs, J.D. Lots of good info and perspectives. Also, I commend you on the layout of your blog. Great design sense and example of form following function. Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting all these great personal finance blogs, J.D. Lots of good info and perspectives. Also, I commend you on the layout of your blog. Great design sense and example of form following function. Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dividends4Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividends4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like it was a very interesting meeting.  Several things rang familiar.  One that I never thought about, but is true with me is &quot;As your net worth increases, the marginal value of a dollar decreases&quot;.  

When I was younger and had less, I would get worked up over having to spend $500.  Now that I have more, it really doesn&#039;t register when my wife brings home a $500 charge receipt. Now I still wouldn&#039;t spend it, but now there is a higher limit before the &quot;battle&quot; begins.

Best Wishes,
D4L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like it was a very interesting meeting.  Several things rang familiar.  One that I never thought about, but is true with me is &#8220;As your net worth increases, the marginal value of a dollar decreases&#8221;.  </p>
<p>When I was younger and had less, I would get worked up over having to spend $500.  Now that I have more, it really doesn&#8217;t register when my wife brings home a $500 charge receipt. Now I still wouldn&#8217;t spend it, but now there is a higher limit before the &#8220;battle&#8221; begins.</p>
<p>Best Wishes,<br />
D4L</p>
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		<title>By: Penelope @ Our Fourpence Worth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penelope @ Our Fourpence Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Personal finance as personal development

This is very true. Sometimes I wonder if visitors to my blog think, &quot;These people are just obsessed with saving money,&quot; and if I&#039;m making mountains out of molehills about saving a few dollars here and there. 

But personal finance is a foundation upon which we build our lives. Money can&#039;t buy happiness, but it buys a lot of things that contribute to the quality of life, which contributes to happiness. So, thanks for that reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Personal finance as personal development</p>
<p>This is very true. Sometimes I wonder if visitors to my blog think, &#8220;These people are just obsessed with saving money,&#8221; and if I&#8217;m making mountains out of molehills about saving a few dollars here and there. </p>
<p>But personal finance is a foundation upon which we build our lives. Money can&#8217;t buy happiness, but it buys a lot of things that contribute to the quality of life, which contributes to happiness. So, thanks for that reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I wish I could have been there! Unfortunately, the timing was inconvenient. It seems like you guys all had a valuable experience, and if they do this again, I will try to get out there. Thanks for sharing the recap.

As for budgeting, I&#039;m along the lines of SVB and Jeffrey... I don&#039;t really do it because my wife and I are very frugal, don&#039;t spend more than we earn, and research and discuss at length all large purchases. Our situation may change when we have children and go down to one income.

Guinness416, I love all my readers! Without them, my blog wouldn&#039;t exist. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I wish I could have been there! Unfortunately, the timing was inconvenient. It seems like you guys all had a valuable experience, and if they do this again, I will try to get out there. Thanks for sharing the recap.</p>
<p>As for budgeting, I&#8217;m along the lines of SVB and Jeffrey&#8230; I don&#8217;t really do it because my wife and I are very frugal, don&#8217;t spend more than we earn, and research and discuss at length all large purchases. Our situation may change when we have children and go down to one income.</p>
<p>Guinness416, I love all my readers! Without them, my blog wouldn&#8217;t exist. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: crazypumpkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>crazypumpkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, recovering from debt is just like how I recover from other &#039;problems&#039; in my life.  In the 12 step community they talk about the idea that if someone isn&#039;t ready for recovery, ie they haven&#039;t hit their bottom, that no one can talk them into recovery.  They have to be ready for it on their own time.  For me, my debt was the same.  When I realized that going back to school could be a reality for me, I also realized that I didn&#039;t want to arrive at grad school with anything other than my student loan debt.  So I&#039;ve worked my butt off for the past year plus, and when I arrive at grad school this fall, it will only be with my student loan debt.  But if you&#039;d told me three years ago that I could have done it in even less time (I was earning more money then), I would have laughed at you because I wasn&#039;t ready to change my behavior to get what I wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, recovering from debt is just like how I recover from other &#8216;problems&#8217; in my life.  In the 12 step community they talk about the idea that if someone isn&#8217;t ready for recovery, ie they haven&#8217;t hit their bottom, that no one can talk them into recovery.  They have to be ready for it on their own time.  For me, my debt was the same.  When I realized that going back to school could be a reality for me, I also realized that I didn&#8217;t want to arrive at grad school with anything other than my student loan debt.  So I&#8217;ve worked my butt off for the past year plus, and when I arrive at grad school this fall, it will only be with my student loan debt.  But if you&#8217;d told me three years ago that I could have done it in even less time (I was earning more money then), I would have laughed at you because I wasn&#8217;t ready to change my behavior to get what I wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: guinness416</title>
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		<dc:creator>guinness416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to hear you say you appreciate your (non-fellow-blogger) readers.  I guess it&#039;s assumed, but not every blogger takes the time to write that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to hear you say you appreciate your (non-fellow-blogger) readers.  I guess it&#8217;s assumed, but not every blogger takes the time to write that.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a blast, it was great meeting you JD.</description>
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		<title>By: Ross Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is dumb for young people to accumulate debt. Debt is a way of borrowing future earnings and spending them now. That makes sense for a lot of young people starting out. It gives them resources to experiment and opens possibilities that they otherwise would be unable to consider. 

People are always looking back on their youth and asking &quot;what was I thinking?&quot;. Why should you expect a different reaction about how you spent your money? 

Middle age people tend to look back with regret on their misspent youth. When you are securely retired, you are likely to start to regret not having misspent more of it. Retirement isn&#039;t the only goal in life - in fact its not a goal at all. Just a phase that we pass through on the way to dying. Spending your whole life planning around it is foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is dumb for young people to accumulate debt. Debt is a way of borrowing future earnings and spending them now. That makes sense for a lot of young people starting out. It gives them resources to experiment and opens possibilities that they otherwise would be unable to consider. </p>
<p>People are always looking back on their youth and asking &#8220;what was I thinking?&#8221;. Why should you expect a different reaction about how you spent your money? </p>
<p>Middle age people tend to look back with regret on their misspent youth. When you are securely retired, you are likely to start to regret not having misspent more of it. Retirement isn&#8217;t the only goal in life &#8211; in fact its not a goal at all. Just a phase that we pass through on the way to dying. Spending your whole life planning around it is foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s important to define your goals and values so that you know why you’re saving and investing&quot;. I think that should be the first step to anyone trying to get a hold of their finances. I mean all the financial advice in the world won&#039;t mean anything to you unless you have a valid reason to implement whatever it is that is being told you, because let&#039;s face it, you don&#039;t just wake up one day and decide you&#039;re getting your finances under control. You need a defining moment.

&quot;Until you’ve reached rock bottom, you’re probably not ready to listen to financial advice.&quot; In my case, it was moving out of my home country into the States. New country, new language, new people, having to start over from scratch. It doesn&#039;t get any worse than that. All of a sudden all those personal finance books I was reading started making A LOT more sense.

&quot;Personal finance is about money, sure, but it’s also about emotions and how you choose to spend your time.&quot; This relates to the earlier point about values. Your investment and/or savings options will be directly determined by your goals when it comes to income and lifestyle, or by what your biggest fears are. 

Actually my personal point of view is that many personal finance books would have a much bigger impact if they actually pictured what you stand to face if you don&#039;t get your stuff together rather than stress financial prosperity, which most people can&#039;t wrap their heads around. Why? Because negative emotions trigger more powerful emotional responses than positive emotions. Now whether or not such books would be marketable is an entirely different question :)

Maybe I should test the market with such a blog and see what the response is ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s important to define your goals and values so that you know why you’re saving and investing&#8221;. I think that should be the first step to anyone trying to get a hold of their finances. I mean all the financial advice in the world won&#8217;t mean anything to you unless you have a valid reason to implement whatever it is that is being told you, because let&#8217;s face it, you don&#8217;t just wake up one day and decide you&#8217;re getting your finances under control. You need a defining moment.</p>
<p>&#8220;Until you’ve reached rock bottom, you’re probably not ready to listen to financial advice.&#8221; In my case, it was moving out of my home country into the States. New country, new language, new people, having to start over from scratch. It doesn&#8217;t get any worse than that. All of a sudden all those personal finance books I was reading started making A LOT more sense.</p>
<p>&#8220;Personal finance is about money, sure, but it’s also about emotions and how you choose to spend your time.&#8221; This relates to the earlier point about values. Your investment and/or savings options will be directly determined by your goals when it comes to income and lifestyle, or by what your biggest fears are. </p>
<p>Actually my personal point of view is that many personal finance books would have a much bigger impact if they actually pictured what you stand to face if you don&#8217;t get your stuff together rather than stress financial prosperity, which most people can&#8217;t wrap their heads around. Why? Because negative emotions trigger more powerful emotional responses than positive emotions. Now whether or not such books would be marketable is an entirely different question <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maybe I should test the market with such a blog and see what the response is <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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