When we arrived in San Francisco on Thursday, I rented a car. It was the first time I’d ever done so — we’ve never used one on vacation, and this was my first business trip. The whole car rental thing was a mystery to me.
When the man at the rental counter asked me what sort of insurance I wanted to purchase, I told him I had my own. In truth, I had forgotten to research my coverage. I was placing faith in what I’d read many times before — that car rentals are generally covered by your own auto insurance and by your credit card.
On Saturday we drove to Berkeley. Kris took me to a nice restaurant for my birthday lunch, and I made a stop at a comic book store. (Where I bought nothing, by the way — I’ve come a long way!)
We were driving back on University Avenue, stopped at an intersection, when a car slammed into us from behind.
My first thought wasn’t about the safety of those in the accident, but about how I hadn’t purchased the rental company’s insurance. I got out of the car and walked back to talk to the other driver, a Hispanic man about my age. “Are you okay?” I asked. He was. “Do you have insurance?” I asked. He did not.
We pulled onto a side street. While he called his wife, I phoned the Berkeley police. I had no idea what to do in the situation, but I figured I had to file an accident report to have any hope of settling with rental company.
As we waited for the police to arrive, I tried to convince the other driver to exchange information with me. He was reluctant to do so. Eventually he gave his name as José Hernandez. “I can just pay you cash,” said José.
“I can’t do that,” I said. “Maybe if it was my own car, but it’s not.” His English was fairly good, but he couldn’t seem to understand that the car was a rental, and that we were only visiting from out of town. Together, we looked at the damage to the vehicles. The rear bumper of my car was destroyed, but everything else seemed fine. The front end of his vehicle was scrunched, but the damage was entirely cosmetic.
I felt bad. I knew that by reporting the accident, the relative financial consequences for José would probably be far more severe than they would be for me if I didn’t report it. He might lose his job (he was driving to work when the accident occurred), he was likely to be fined, and if he were in the U.S. illegally, he might even be deported. By reporting the accident, I might be ruining his life. If I didn’t report it, all that would happen to me is that my emergency fund would be drained.
The three police officers who arrived on the scene grasped the situation immediately. When I expressed my concerns, one of them nodded and said, “Yeah, it’s tough, but you had to make the call. If you were in your own car, I can see trying to take care of it privately. But you’re in a rental. You had to do this.”
Did I? Leaving aside all the things that José was doing wrong — driving without a license or insurance, rear-ending somebody, possibly being in the U.S. illegally — was my own decision the right one? In the heat of the moment, I acted almost instinctively to protect myself. In retrospect I wonder if there were better options.
When we got back to the hotel, I called my insurance company. The rental is covered under my policy. From what I can tell, the $250 deductible will even be reimbursed by my credit card company. In theory, all this minor accident will cost me is a couple hours of my time. But it’s going to cost José much more.
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Offering cash, reluctant to deal with the cops…give me a break, PC Police. The guy’s doing something shady. Get off your UN high horses.
You did the right thing, JD. It isn’t your job to coddle people who are knowingly breaking the law.
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I’ve worked in immigration law. He won’t be deported. Our country is way to bogged down in other stuff to follow through on deportation (typically) unless a felony is involved (or a few other crimes) or unless they do a specific raid looking for “illegals.”
Plus, car rental companies are insane regarding how much they often try to charge for damage on cars. If this wasn’t covered by insurance, you might have been out more than your emergency fund.
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You did ABSOLUTELY, the right thing. No question. You must always cover your own behind. Don’t worry about what it “may” cost someone that may be driving illegally, or worse.
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Your blog is dedicated to personal responsibility – for your own finances and family. I’m a little surprised that you would be so gung-ho to help someone avoid personal responsibility.
If you feel bad, why don’t you just give Jose your emergency fund? That would be a way to show mercy without allowing him to avoid his responsibility.
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Andy, there are lots of reasons people would not have a license. I don’t think I personally know anyone who is in this country illegally, but I do personally know several people who don’t have a license but drive anyway.
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JerichoHill Says:
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Again, to H_Roarke and Maryland, we have no confirmation that Jose was an illegal. He could have been many things. Such attitude is just as frightening to me as someone driving without a license.
Let’s handle the facts, and not make assumptions.”
I was commenting based on the assumptions/possibilities made in the post:
“He might lose his job (he was driving to work when the accident occurred), he was likely to be fined, and if he were in the U.S. illegally, he might even be deported.”
JerichoHill, you weren’t unhappy I assumed he was illegal. You were unhappy because I didn’t show any empathy for Jose. Thus, this makes me anti-illegal in your book. I don’t care if he is illegal, legal or natural born citizen. Not having a driver’s license or any insurance makes him irresponsible and deserved of any consequences. I feel no pitty for him.
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In California, car insurance is mandatory as is a license, so this guy was breaking the laws. When someone makes a choice, they must live with the consequences and outcomes, be it driving with no insurance and no license or calling the police. This guy tried to buy his way out of the consequences of his decision. You refused to be bought and did the correct thing by calling the police and reporting the accident. If he had no license, it means either he didn’t feel he could pass the test or the state of California felt he was not fit to be a driver of about 2,000 lbs of destructive metal.
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I really respect your thought process and appreciate that your heart is in the right place. However, the decisions we make are the ones we live by. Your decision to obey the law and the contract you signed with the rental agency had to be honored. Jose decided not honor the law and broke the “contract”.
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If it’s any consolation to you, living in the Bay Area is one of the best places to be if you don’t have a car. Compared to the rest of the country, the public transit there is amazing (I could have lived there without a car).
So even though Jose will have to pay for the accident and may not get a license in the future, the Bart and bus systems there are great and I bet this won’t ruin his working life not having a car.
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To even be concerned about Jose being deported is insane.
That has nothing to do with the fact that he hit you.
And if he was here illegally and does get deported, that’s one less bad driver here in the US.
What if you had actually been physically hurt in the accident, J.D.? Broken arm, broken leg? What about your wife? What if she had been hurt? Some type of injury that could have affected the both of you for the rest of your lives?
When it comes to situations like these, YOU and you’re family are the PRIORITY. You’re feelings about what might happen to the other person are of no consequence.
Just to clarify: He did hit YOU, right? You seem like a really nice guy, but don’t be such a bleeding heart, especially when you let that take precedence over you and your own.
And you went to a comic shop and bought nothing?! Are you insane! There is so much good stuff coming out right now! Here are some suggestions:
The Incredible Herc
Kick-Ass
Gravel
All Star Superman
Avengers: The Initiative
Uncanny X-men
The Walking Dead
Scalped
Punisher
Iron Fist
And the list could go on and on!
Anyway, you could save a lot of money just waiting and getting the in trades or getting the entire runs off of eBay.
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Personal responsibility is a cornerstone of sound personal finance, yet you seem to be happy to ignore that in this case. When there is an accident, you call the police. That’s what the law prescribes. IF someone is here illegally, and this causes a problem, that’s they way it goes. Remember, IF that’s the case, and he was here *illegally* that’s on him or her.
PLUS, he was breaking the law by not having insurance.
We are responsible for our actions, or inactions.
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I am glade that all of you are ok, although this is such a hassle.
I hope Jose is ok as well.
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In the case that he does happen to be here illegally:
Who cares if he gets deported, he doesn’t belong here in the first place.
I too am from another country. I am here LEGALLY…it’s not that hard to do…fill out the forms, pay your money, wait…
I married a US citizen and moved here. There were MANY hoops to jump through to gain my status, and I jumped every one of them because I wanted to be here.
Who cares if he loses his job. As an illegal it is probably not income reported the IRS and therefore not taxed. I pay my taxes, insure my vehicles, have a driver’s license.
By his actions he obvioulsy knew what he was doing was wrong…he CHOSE to act illegally. Good for you for getting something done.
Stand up for your country USA…if people aren’t here leagally, get rid of them PERIOD
IF they claim they cannot return to their home country for whatever reason, file the appropriate paper work at the border…you know, at a crossing where there are guards…not some fence you jumped to get here.
I’ll get off my soapbox now
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You are not responsible for someone else’s life decisions. I wouldn’t have felt guilty at all. Did you choose to be run into?
I have been in this situation before, rear-ended by someone with no insurance & no license. he ended up showing up AT MY HOUSE to try & “convince” me to drop it.
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Wow, what a horrible experience. Sadly, Jose will pay for his mistakes, but your situation didn’t warrant you making any other call. For that, you did the right thing.
As an insurance rep, I’d like to offer one piece of advice. Always ask the rental car company the cost of their insurance and what their policy is on “loss of use”. This is why:
Your insurance policy might cover the cost of repairs, but it will NOT cover the rental car company for “loss of use.” That means you might end up having to pay for the days the rental car could not be rented to others while it’s in the shop being repaired. In most cases you will not be responsible for loss of use if you purchase the insurance coverage the rental car company offers. It might cost a few dollars more initially, but it’s better than paying for time on a car no one is able to use…
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You did the correct and right thing. If the man lives in San Francisco, then driving without a license and insurance is not only stupid, it’s criminally so. San Fran has a very good pubic transit system that tens of thousands of people use to get back and forth to work every day.
As for loss of use on the rental car, it depends on which credit card you used to pay for the car. MasterCard has some pretty strong policies that many rental agencies refuse to follow (they want fleet logs). Visa has a more forgiving policy and, from the information I have seen, will cover a lot more of these types of charges, to an extent.
It’s funny this should come up today…I was just reading an article about it on Friday (though, I can’t for the life of me remember where…USA Today maybe?)
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We rent occasionally. We have personal insurance for passenger cars, so if we rent the same class of car, or smaller, we are covered. If we rent a larger class vehicle, such as a truck (sometimes SUV), we are not covered. That’s a different category of insurance coverage. And, as someone else said, you are pulling against your own insurance company. All-in-all, as we usually only rent for 2-4 days, we find it worthwhile to buy the rental car comprehensive they-take-care-of-everything for $15 per day extra. Worth it for peace of mind to me. We have had the company “take advantage” of that, I think, by claiming a nick in the bumper so they could have their insurance cover it. Not reported anywhere (so they say). Now, Clark Howard always says take full photos of car going out and getting returned (if your phone can take photos, terrific!) But I’ve never had a camera that would allow me to walk around a car and take every fender, and interior-exterior photos at beginning and end of trip. Overall, we’ve probably rented cars about 30 times over the past 8 years, and we’ve only had that one nick to deal with.
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Illegal alien drivers with no license or insurance get off a lot easier than you would in the same situation. In fact, if I am ever in an accident, I can only hope that I get the same treatment as an illegal.
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If there is one thing I’ve learned about finance is that we are our own agents of fortune. You didn’t make him drive without insurance, you didn’t make him run into you. Whether he is here legally or not would be his own choice as well. If he’s in a ditch – he dug it himself.
On the flipside – had you not had the extra money to pay for the deductable or didn’t have the proper coverage – would you feel so bad for him? Granted I can’t answer for you, but I think the running majority of people still struggling with finances would be massively PO’d at yet another expense.
Rotten things happen to people every day. All you can do is take care of yourself and your family and hope everyone else has enough sense to do the same.
I’m glad no one was hurt though! That’s way worse than any loss of money.
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Don’t beat yourself up over it. Anyone and everyone is welcome in this country, but only if they follow the rules. The same is expected of any person visiting any country — follow the local laws, or get out. Jose was not abiding by the rules, and considering how simple it is to follow those rules in the first place, I don’t imagine he cared to bother.
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Another thought…I’ve worked for insurance companies and lived in California…so I’ve seen both sides of the picture. But California has the highest rate of insurance fraud related to cars in the nation (and perhaps in the world). That’s part of the reason California has the highest insurance rates for similarly populated areas. Reporting accidents and getting people who drive without adequate insurance and proper licensing is the first step in reducing the fraud and dangers that make California insurance so high.
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I am actually a claims adjuster for a national insurance carrier, and situations like this arise way more frequently than you may think.
First off, the rental company is going to handle all of the repairs to the rental car. They will charge you the deductible when you return the damaged rental car, and will follow up with your insurance carrier seeking reimbursement for any outstanding amounts. In my personal experience, rental agencies will always ASK for loss of use and frequently an administrative fee for handling the claim. However, the insurance carrier is not required to pay the administrative fee because we didn’t require them to handle the claim in the first place. They could have allowed the insurance company to handle it. And regarding the loss of use, they have to provide proof that there were no other cars available for them to rent and that there was somebody who actually needed to rent it. When you start asking for proof, the rental company will waive the loss of use as it is a hassle for them to gather all of the documentation. The rental agencies don’t go after the renter to get that money back. They already have your deductible. And the insurance company never denied the claim, they are just asking for some kind of documentation to verify.
P.S. – If you paid for the rental with a credit card, the credit card usually has insurance that will reimburse your insurance deductible.
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Let me get this straight. Your car was rear ended by an illegal alien with no driver’s license, no insurance. He hit you. Now you’re wallowing in white guilt because a triple criminal might get deported. Want to bet he’s working on a fake SS number and his family is collecting welfare and food stamps paid for by California’s legal taxpayers? Would it have been better to not report the accident and have him sue you and collect later, plus pressing charges for your leaving the scene of an accident? The ACLU (your tax dollars at work!) would back this criminal and take your hard earned money without batting an eye. The well behaved American middle class is seen as a cash cow begging to be milked. You’re a dear man, but you need to grow up! He’s the criminal and he was as fault. You need feel NO guilt.
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you did what you had to and being in the country illegally – if Jose is an illegal immigrant – was his choice as well so his problems are his own, not yours. I am an immigrant as well so I know a bit about the immigration issue and the fact that some people sneak over the border is an insult and a disgrace to the other immigrants who HAVE to wait to come to the US. My family waited 12 years – yes, twelve long years – for our papers to be legally and properly processed. If someone decides to cut in line in front of me and gets penalized for it, that is fine…when they crossed the border illegally they KNEW the risks and having to pay for it if caught is part of the game.
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You feel bad for this person because he might be here illegally? I feel bad for the low income people that have trouble paying for high car insurance because of people like him! I’ve known quite a few people who have emigrated to the U.S. legally. It IS possible!
Now for the rest of your story, it’s a good reminder for everyone to check with their insurance company first before renting a car. It can vary from company to company and also from policy to policy.
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As Adriana said, he might go on & do worse things if you didn’t do the right thing. You did the right thing.
I’ve called the cops upon seeing kids without their seat belts on, bouncing around the back seat of cars. Maybe the parents don’t have money to pay the fine, but if they got in an accident & the kids flew through the windshield, I’d feel horrible. Do the right thing, and you’ll have a clear conscience.
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Are you kidding! Seriously you can not feel bad because Jose put himself into a bad situation. If you had hit him I could see feeling “torn” about the outcome but not only was he breaking several laws but he hit you. I grew up in Phoenix, lived there 25 years, and I’ve learned one very important fact, There are too many illegal immigrants. It’s an unfortunate and true fact of our country that we don’t have a good method to deal with immigrants nor do we have the infrastructure to support these families when the arrive and break our laws.
Now before any of you start thinking I’m some racist redneck know this, I’m very liberal when it comes to helping the less fortunate and most of my best friends are in fact Hispanic. The sad part is that most of my hispanic friends that came here legally feel the same way I do about the illegal imagration situation. They worked hard to come to this country only to watch people cross the rio and flaunt the laws that they had to take an oath to obey.
I know that there are thousands of homeless, veterans, and elderly across this country that need our help so every time you feel like helping someone direct your efforts at the more deserving among us that need our help. Don’t spend time or money assisting people that came to this country illegally and don’t pay taxes.
Also know that I was once in an accident with an illegal immigrant. The accident was my fault and I handled it privately without calling the police out of consideration for the man that I inconvenienced with my actions.
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José made plenty of choices in his life to get him in that situation before he met you. I wouldn’t feel guilty for his decisions.
In the mid-80′s my father was rear ended by a no-insurance driver. He decided to trust the guy and settle privately. Well, the guy provided false information and my father had little recourse. The “minor ding” in the bumper turned out to be frame damage when it got to the shop, and my dad was out hundreds of dollars.
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“What made you think that the other driver was in the country illegally was it because he was Hispanic? Because we have a lot of great us citizens that are Hispanic.”
If he was driving without a license or insurance he was not being a great citizen, regardless of ethnicity (or nationality, for that matter).
JD, I completely understand your dilemma. It’s tough to know that, if everything worked out perfectly, both you and he could go on about your lives with practically zero change… but because you have to expect something won’t go perfectly, your life will proceed unaltered and his may change drastically for the worse.
It’s just tough to be a part of a situation where you are ethically and responsibly bound to tip that second domino (his fault in the accident was the first) that could lead to great troubles for someone else.
You did the right thing. He’s in charge of mitigating the risk to him and his family, you’re in charge of mitigating the risk to you and yours. His lack of responsibility with regards to protecting himself and others while driving indicates that he’d show a similar lack of responsibility in making sure you didn’t get screwed over.
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God, that is tough. I don’t envy the decision you had to make, it’s hard knowing that taking care of yourself will have much dire consequences for another party.
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One thing I haven’t seen here — *if* “Jose” wasn’t here legally, in most (all?) states he wouldn’t have been able to get a driver’s license and insurance.
If we allowed drivers (here legally or not) to get a valid driver’s license and insurance, possibly J.D. wouldn’t haven’t had to decide anything. It would have gone to the respective insurance companies and that would have been it.
A driver’s license is only a device that (1) shows that you have passed the requirements for operating a vehicle and (2) as state-issued I.D. I don’t understand how people think that it also means that it says you are in the country legally.
Even if all who passed the requirements for a driver’s license were able to get a license (here in the country legally or not), “Jose” may not wanted to get a license and insurance and J.D. would have been in the same position.
Of course, “Jose” might be here legally (and no one here knows one way or the other).
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You did the right thing. Don’t feel bad about it. Jose was taking a huge risk in driving w/o insurance whether he is legal or illegal. I’m surprised he stopped and stayed for the police. Where I live most people (Americans w/o insurance) wouldn’t do that. I’ve been in a hit and run twice and I know several people who have as well and the uninsured American took off. Jose is probably a decent person if he stayed for the police. Even if he was illegal and gets deported good things will happen for by being honest.
BTW I don’t think I would ever take cash for a car accident – even if it was good ole’ greenbacks and not a check. As tempting as it might be to save time you just never know how much it will cost to fix the car. Every time I’ve been in an accident the cost to fix was way more than I thought it would be. And usually our cars are so old they are less than $8k in value – it doesn’t take much to total an $8k car.
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That’s a tough one. I think you made the right call. Not only would you have possibly had to drain your emergency fund, a lot of time (and stress) would have been spent trying to rectify the situation with the rental company. This is a good reminder for everyone to understand their coverage, especially so people don’t have to pay the obscene insurance rates from the rental company if it is not necessary.
I think when I was single I would have been more inclined to deal with it myself, but now that I am married and have someone else’s financial recources at stake I would have called the police for an accident report.
I feel really bad for the other driver. Hopefully things will work out ok for him.
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You made the right decision. I work for a major auto insurance company, and previously worked for a major rental car company. You are very lucky things worked out for you. You have to remember you didn’t know what the outcome was going to be. Filing a police report was a way of protecting yourself. What if he tried to file a claim for damages or injuries against you? He still could. At least the report will be there to back up your statement.
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You made the right call 100%. If the other driver was being responsible for himself he would have no problems. He took a risk and now it is time for him to own up to it.
Bummer that you had the bad luck to have a wreck the first time you have a rental. I’ve rented about a dozen times in the last year and have not had any problems, but I’m always nervous about the potential headache.
I’m currently considering a change to my insurance deductibles. Right now they are $250 for collision and $0 for comprehensive. I’m a bit apprehensive to change them however because it would only reduce my monthly bill by 10% but it would more than double my liability if there is an accident. I’m torn…
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A sad situation, but you did the right thing. The rental car company would need a police report regardless (I worked for Enterprise in the past).
99% of the time, you are covered under your own insurance — but it does pay to check! If you had liability only, I think, in this case you would be in some trouble. You wouldn’t have collision to cover you if the other person isn’t covered.
We were heavily pressured to push the insurance on renters. It can pay off, but only in limited circumstances.
Also, Jose knew the risk he was running by coming to this country, possibly illegally, and driving illegally. (Well, he may not have known the law, but if he is going to live here he needs to know the law.) As others mentioned, even if this wasn’t about Jose and it was instead John Doe, US Citizen, you would still need to call.
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As with everyone else, I think you did the right thing, although I certainly appreciate your compassion for the other driver.
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A very similar thing happened to me awhile back in Northern British Columbia. I’m from Toronto, but I had a rental car out of Vancouver and was staying in Prince George when I was rear-ended at a stop light by a pickup truck full of…well…rednecks.
After hitting me they immediately drove off. I pulled over and my girlfriend, her friend and I inspected the damage. They eventually came back after 5 minutes and said to “just cover the bumper with dirt and they won’t notice”. It was a huge 20cm gash about 3cm deep. =-I
After haggling and threatening to call the police, I eventually convinced him to hand over his insurance details. He tried to intimidate us and offer us cash on the spot as well, but we refused. We were students and didn’t want to risk anything with a no-fault accident of our own.
Eventually we got all the details, but the he lied to the insurance company saying somebody else was driving his car, etc.
It eventually got sorted out, but I also had to go to my credit card company to get them to pay for the time that the car was out of service.
In the end, I learned a few things. Whatever happens, especially if the accident is your fault, you don’t want to deal with that hassle if you thousands of miles away. If far away and your credit card doesn’t take care of the insurance, buy the extra with a reasonable deductible. Also, I wasn’t pleased with Enterprise, which called be 9 months after the rental agreement asking for money from the car being away for so long. They said “sorry, but we had some employee turnover and a backlog”. I’ve decided to not go with them again unless I absolutely have to.
I feel for the guy who hit you. He sounds like he was just a paycheque to paycheque immigrant who was trying to make the American dream or whatever, but you do have to watch out for yourself first. I disagree with these other jerks in that you can still feel compassion for his situation, but this is life.
You did the right thing. And it’s still ok to feel sorry for him.
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Echoing others, I’m a little unsettled by the fact that you mention several times he ‘might’ be in the country illegally.
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Unlike many of your commenters, I have some sympathy for Jose. The simple argument of “he’s here illegally, tough luck to him” minimizes the whole illegal alien issue. It’s bigger than that.
However, I do think you did the right thing. You couldn’t have done much else without really jeopardizing yourself.
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I hate to say it, call me racist, bigoted, whatever, but I lived in So Cal for 18 years, and I never heard a case where an illegal was deported or even prosecuted for driving without a license or insurance. More often than not, the person that was in compliance felt all the pain. I remember a young Marine being killed on a motorcycle by a drunk, illegal, no license, no insurance woman who was let go on a technicality, and then wasn’t even deported. Thanks ACLU!
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While you may sympathize with Jose’s misfortune, your clear responsibility is meet the requirements of the law as you did. Driving is a high-risk, high-responsibility activity and that’s why it is so regulated. By choosing an easier way out for Jose, you likely risk the safety of everyone else.
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Before I begin, I’d like to point out that we have no reason to believe Jose actually is here illegally, other than stereotyping. Unless we are to assume that all Hispanic people in southern California that don’t speak perfectly fluent English, and don’t have car insurance, are here illegally.
All we really know is that he doesn’t have car insurance.
@sjean
>> I have some sympathy for Jose. The simple argument of “he’s here illegally, tough luck to him” minimizes the whole illegal alien issue. It’s bigger than that.
It’s bigger than that? I fail to see it. I imagine you are thinking that his previous situation may have been horrible, so coming to the US illegally to improve things. OK, that’s fine. He made a choice and took a risk. It’s a risk I was fortunate to never have to make because by lottery of birth I was born in the USA. However, he still made choices that were within his control. Maybe he could have taken the bus to work and avoid the risk of being involved in a traffic accident. Maybe he could have ridden with someone else, or he should have driven more carefully so as not to rear end another driver. He is 100% responsible for his own misfortune in this case. This didn’t just *happen* to him.
Of course, I also feel that people are responsible for nearly any situation they are in (there are a few exceptions). I am responsible for my own situation at almost all times. If I don’t go and get car insurance (as is legally required when registering a vehicle in my state) and I get in an accident (whether the accident is my fault or not) — then it is my fault for not having insurance. I can blame no one else for the risk I took and the choices I made.
It is unfortunate that this situation could cause personal/financial stress for Jose, but he is ultimately responsible for it.
Regards
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A car is a weapon.
It is immaterial where the man came from. He was driving a weapon illegally, uninsured and with total disregard for human life.
Try to imagine what your life would be right now if he had severely hurt you, crippled you or killed your wife or whomever was with you in the car? What would your life be worth right now if you were sitting in a wheelchair, drooling?
We have laws and rules that are in place for our own protection.
You probably saved someone’s life today. Think about that. You probably saved a mother, a father, a young child, a sister or a brother or somebody’s loved one.
YOU DID THE RIGHT THING AND SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
You are a great American.
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For all those ranting about the author assuming that José MIGHT be in the country illegally, the odds of a Hispanic man in California being illegal if he’s driving without insurance or a license and hesitant to give his name are fairly high. That’s not racism, it’s an unfortunate fact. If the author had said he was probably illegal then you’d have cause to rant.
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Well, as a guy whose vehicle has been hit three times, every time I’ve been hit, it’s been the other driver’s “fault”, and they’ve not had insurance once. Neither I nor my insurance company have ever gotten a cent out of the uninsured drivers (the question I ask myself is, “If this person can’t afford the $500 or so every six months for insurance, how can they afford to pay for the damage?” I’m sorry, I wish I could be a little more compassionate, but once when I was in traffic court for speeding and one of the guys ahead of me was in for driving uninsured (worst thing to do to your driving record here other than DUI), the judge put it well: “If you can’t afford your insurance, that’s fine. It means you can’t afford to drive.”
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You absolutely did the right thing!!!!
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Hopefully I’m not repeating here (couldn’t get through all of the comment).
What do you know about this driver? For all you know he could get into accidents monthly! What if you let him go but his next accident does more than damage a car?
What if it were your car and you agreed to cash? He pays you but later on you find out that there’s additional damage you didn’t notice at first. What now.
It may feel cold and maybe he’s a really good guy trying to catch a break but you don’t know that. You did the right thing calling it in.
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JerichoHill,
You are confusing the issue when you claim that certain posters have a negative attitude toward immigrants when its clear the problem is with “illegal” immigrants. Everyone is correct that its uncertain whether or not Jose is in fact an illegal alien but given the no license, no insurance, and could not understand what a rental car was pointed more toward him being an illegal alien as opposed to a US Citizen. All the arguing is actually moot because if he is a US Citizen then he will be hit with a hefty fine (just like any other citizen) and if he is not then he deserves to be deported (according to the law).
JD, you were right by reporting the accident because at the very least the consequences could be damages paid out of pocket.
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Traciatim said: “I would be F’N P’Oed. To the point that I’d be asking the police about pressing charges and asking for whatever possible to ensure he never drives again. Of course, you can’t take the ignorant fools license away . . . because he didn’t have one. He should do jail time.” Don’t know if I’d go that far, but I am curious about one thing. When I was hit several years ago, it was near the end of the year (late Nov, early Dec, don’t remember exactly). The person who hit me was uninsured. The cop who showed up told her that it was lucky for her this didn’t happen after the first of the year, because a new law would take effect then that would have required her car to be impounded. Of course, hearing this didn’t make me very happy! This was in California, so I wonder if that law has since been repealed, or if it is possibly at the officer’s discretion. I’m just wondering why Jose’s car didn’t get impounded?
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