What’s the Reason for Saving and Investing?
Published on - April 10th, 2008 (Modified on - October 29th, 2009) (by J.D. Roth) Yesterday, in his final piece for The Wall Street Journal, Jonathan Clements shared what he learned from writing 1,008 columns about personal finance in 26 years.
What is the reason for all this saving and investing? The short answer is, you save now so you can spend later. But what will you spend your money on? People dream of endless leisure and bountiful possessions. Unfortunately, after a few months, endless leisure often seems like endless tedium.
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That doesn’t mean money can’t enhance your life. In fact, I believe wealth can deliver three key benefits. The good news: If you are savvy, you can enjoy this trio of benefits even if you don’t have great wads of cash. A fat portfolio just makes it all a little easier.
According to Clements, the three benefits of wealth are:
- If you have money, you don’t have to worry about it. He notes that this isn’t just true for the wealthy. By living below your means, you can obtain a degree of financial control even you aren’t rich. Avoiding debt gives you freedom.
- Money can give you the freedom to pursue your passions. What is it you want out of life? What gives you a sense of purpose? These are the sorts of things you want to pursue in retirement. Better yet, try to structure your career around something you love to do. (My wife and I are both doing work we love. It makes a huge difference.)
- Money can buy you time with friends and family. In fact, Clements says, true wealth comes from relationships, not from dollars and cents. Social capital is worth more than financial capital.
In 2006, JLP from All Financial Matters interviewed Clements, asking, “What’s the most important thing you have learned since you started writing about personal finance?” Clements replied:
Financial success has very little to do with your ability to pick winning investments. Instead, what matters is stuff people never think about…The ability to delay gratification is critically important. Similarly, a lot depends on maintaining steady employment, staying in good health, avoiding divorce and whether you have children.
I haven’t read much from Clements — I’ve only quoted him once before — but I liked what I read today. Sometimes we become so focused on frugality and saving and investing that we forget about the Big Picture, we forget why we’re doing this in the first place.
[The Wall Street Journal: What I learned from writing 1,008 columns]
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Reason number three seems to just be a subset of reason number two. If you’re passionate about your family and are now free to pursue your passions…
Anyway, I agree wholeheartedly. Financial independence is just that – independence. You’re no longer dependent on anything to determine your destiny, and that’s heady stuff.
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I, too, think of financial independence not in terms of sitting on the beach with a mai tai (well, sometimes), but as a vehicle to allow me to do what I love, when I want to do it. Yes, I want to retire from full time work sooner rather than later, but that doesn’t mean I’ll stop working.
There’s part time work, volunteering, travel (or travel while volunteering), caring for my parents, reconnecting with friends and making new ones. All of these things are important.
Thanks for turning me on to another source of information and inspiration, J.D. I have never heard of Jonathan Clements, but I’ll definitely be reading up on him.
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Clements has shared many nuggets over the years, and this one really sums it all up nicely. Thanks for highlighting his final column at WSJ, and for sharing a few of those nuggets with your readers. You’re right, the constant bang on the frugality drum has to occasionally be tempered with a long-range view of why we’re riding bikes to work, growing our own veggies, and obsessing over light switches!
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I’ve been a big fan of Jonathan Clements for a while an he’s probably inspired more of my postings than any other mainstream writer. His piece yesterday made for an excellent bookend.
The one word I thought he could have used yesterday was “balance.” To me, that one word encompasses much of what we’re all saying: that to keep focus on the long-term is critical, but to succeed (both in the future AND today), you must stay in balance. It’s possible to swing to far on the saving pendulum and that’s not a comfortable ride either.
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There is a lot of nitty gritty about saving and investing that is intimidating to people at first, but the most important thing about saving and investing is that you start NOW! If you don’t start now, when will you? Start small, invest where you are comfortable investing, maybe you just want to open a savings account at your local bank. It doesn’t matter how or where you do it, just start! Don’t worry about the nitty gritty at first, you will overwhelm yourself with information, start small, start now.
-Daniel @ Young and Frugal
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I have to thank you. I meant to write you in a few months when more goals are met, but I started reading this blog this year. (You, JD, but all of you commenters are very smart, too!)
I’m engaged, and the wedding is in December. Due to what I’ve learned from this wealth of information here, I’ve set goals and plan to have no credit card debt when I get married. My fiance loves this idea, by the way, because he just paid off all of his non-mortgage debt. When we get married we will only have the one car payment and my student loan and the mortgage, which will be a lot easier to manage than my current situation.
I just started in February, or really more like March after deciding and planning in February. I have 2 cards and 1 very expensive loan paid off so far, and I feel SO GOOD ABOUT MYSELF I just can’t believe it. The debt snowball grows and so does my confidence.
Once these debts are paid off I know that this confidence will transfer to saving/investing the same way it built as I started to pay off this daunting debt.
I think this website has already helped my marriage because I know we won’t be fighting about my credit card debt during our first months together.
THANK YOU!
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Similarly, a lot depends on maintaining steady employment, staying in good health, avoiding divorce and whether you have children.
So much depends, then, on luck. Sure, you can do things to help with maintaining steady employment, staying healthy, etc…But one spot of bad luck and all is blown out the window. I mean, the only surefire way to avoid divorce is to never marry. If you step the wrong way while going down the stairs at work, there goes good health. Recession and you have a service sector job? Well, there goes employment.
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@Flaime
What you’re describing isn’t luck, but risk. There is a certain amount of risk in every endeavor. The only way to avoid it is…well, you can’t. Accept that there are risks by using pre-nups, health insurance, disability insurance, and proper, wise investments to insulate yourself against recession. Avoid a service sector job if it worries you. Get yourself educated and stop trying to blame your failures and other’s successes on “luck.”
Great article by the way JD. Having a goal for retirement is a key factor in whether you will be able to delay gratification. Set your own goals for what retirement will mean to you. http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/what-retirement-means/
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To me there are a number of reasons for the savings and for the frugal living.
I want to be able to minimize any debt my kids will face should they chose to go to college.
I want to live without debt now so that I don’t have to factor someone elses lein on me when my wife and I are making decisions in our lives.
I don’t want to be in the position that when I’m older and potentially unable to work full time I’m at someone elses mercy to determine where and how I live.
Eventually I see a point where I will achieve an amount of freedom to put most of my time into activities which give me pleasure but don’t generate the kind of income my profession currently gives me.
All of this is encompassed by the article points above, they’re just more concrete for me.
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It’s all very true – especially the freedom to pursue your passions.
At the risk of sounding materialistic, I would like to add that the fact that money enables you to buy the nice things in life and surround yourself with luxury, or at least with comfort, is also important. It does enhance quality of life.
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The real reason why people retire is a bit more simple then that though, and far more insidious: its because one day most of us will reach a point in our life where we are unemployable. Whether its because we are physically or mentally incapable of doing productive work, or because of ageism, the end result is the same. If you have no retirement savings, you will be screwed. This is a natural result of the capitalist system which is constantly striving to increase returns. Being a reservoir of institutional knowledge in your company will command a premium for your declining years, but at some point processes change, knowledge is documented, and the new models will out class you, doing your work better and cheaper.
Take that to its logical extension of continuity of the ‘quality of life’ (whatever that is) you are accustomed to while working, and you have quite the conundrum: you are going to need a big-ass self-sustaining pile of cash.
‘Enjoying your golden years’ is really just a euphemism for ‘no longer being able to meet production demands’, and buddy, when that time comes, and it will, you’d better have a plan.
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I would add opportunity.
Money provides the ability to take advantage of opportunities. A lot of people miss out on opportunities because they are unable to spare the money at the time of the opportunity. A good opportunity is rare and if you are not ready for it, you miss out.
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Money allows for a sense of security, peace of mind, and eventually freedom.
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My reasons for saving are more altruistic. They are about making a difference in people’s lives. Having a trust which allows at least one person from each following generation, into perpetuity, to acquire higher education is one reason. Another reason is to start a business that makes a difference in my community and my future employees’ lives. Afterall, the one thing everyone wants is a meaningful employment.
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Here’s what I don’t quite understand. Why wait to enjoy life? Why sacrifice and scrimp now for some unidentified and uncertain future point where you will theoretically be financially sound and happy? You could die tomorrow or next week or find out you have cancer and 6 months to live and all you’ll have to look back on is all the sacrifice you made.
This whole scrimping and saving for a wealthy future sounds like self-flaggelation. When will you have saved enough? When will you suddenly turn off the saving habit? How will you do this after all the years of saving and sacrificing? After years of being used to simple living, you’ll just suddenly go on an all-out bourgeois shopping spree, making it all worth it?
Why not learn to enjoy life now instead of purposely not enjoying life now in the vain hope that you’ll get to enjoy it… someday?
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I feel lucky enough to have had the foresight to finish my military career, retiring at age 39 after 22 years in. I am set up for life with at least 2.5K plus every month and after my fiance retires in a few years, that monthly amount is doubled. All I have felt that I need to be concerned about is to pay off all of my debts so that we can live comfortably on just our retirements, which will provide very well for a mortgage on a nice house, plus all living expenses. My only savings goals are for a nice emergency fund for unplanned crisis’.
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Question: I just purcahsed VSTMX (Vanguard). I’ve never invested before (this is my first fund ever), I’m 24 and soon to marry. Was this a mistake? Should I have waited for the stock market to go even lower? Should I have bought internationally (i.e. VEIEX) and if so does it make any sense to sell in order to buy VEIEX?? I’ve been so excited about all this that I got nervous about putting my entire investment on a more risky fund. By the way, I plan to hold for at least 2 years, if things go well.
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K, you are making numerous assumptions there. Personally, I don’t know anyone who earns a good living, but in turn eats beans everyday, reads by candlelight, and sleeps on a straw mat in a shack.
Most frugal people spend their money on what they want to, not what others tell them they should spend it on (ie, advertisers, Keeping up with the Joneses, etc.).
Most frugal people I know, including myself, spend money on traveling, learning, and hobbies. Not on fancy clothes, cars, jewelry, mcmansions, etc.
Moderation in your savings plans is a good thing. Figure out what you will need in the future and save the appropriate amounts. Anything left over is fair game to spend now – on meaningful things, hopefully.
And, like others said, having a large savings stash is also about security and peace of mind. In case something happens like a major illness, you’ll be prepared.
Last but not least, “enjoying life” means a lot of things to a lot of different people. Some don’t need much money at all to enjoy life, so saving for peace of mind and financial independence is not a problem.
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I think that icup said it best, the primary reason to save is to prepare for when you can’t do things that produce an income. Basically storing up nuts for the winter.
Your particular “winter” may be old age, being outsourced, divorce, one party becoming a stay at home parent, or any number of things that pull you out of the game. Having savings gives you the margin that you need to survive the droughts.
If you don’t believe that then talk to anyone that owns a pay-day lending agency or a pawn shop, they interact with people that live on the hairy edge every day.
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K (comment #15) says “why wait to enjoy life” but I think that you can enjoy life while also putting money away so that you can eventually leave full-time paid employment (I doubt that women [or men who don't live with a woman] can ever stop “working” if we use Mark Twain’s definition “Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do. Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do.”)
In fact, I imagine the only thrift habits that really work are those that end up being pleasurable. If I didn’t enjoy the lunches I make at least as much as what’s available to buy, then I probably wouldn’t be able to keep making lunch instead of buying it. Similarly, if there wasn’t some real pleasure to be had in walking to work, or the conversations on the bus, etc, then it would be the more costly auto travel, and so on…
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We’re saving and investing for the long term so we can change our family tree. By being frugal, we have more money to save and invest, obviously, and it is a good habit to develop.
The current culture of spending more than you make is brought on by the idea that K mentions. That “live in the moment” or “live for now” or whatever garbage is why people are running up huge amounts of debt. They don’t think about the adverse effects that can have on their families down the road. You impact more people than you realise with your behaviour, especially if you have children.
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K, if your self-worth isn’t tied into having things, then you haven’t really sacrificed much. If by “learning to live life now,” you include selling your future to buy stuff now, it might suck to find out that you don’t have cancer after all.
The book “Die Broke” (the author actually encourages you to die with $0) might be a good read for you. Good luck.
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“If you have money, you don’t have to worry about it.”
That is #1 for me. I don’t want to have to worry about it, I dont want my family to worry about it.
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I read Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography a year or two ago, and he noted that having some savings makes it easier to do the right thing.
Neil Gaiman has written about quitting his job because he was being asked to write a newspaper story that wasn’t true. He mentions having children and a mortgage – he was doing something financially risky to be true to his principles.
Many of the moral decisions we face have a financial element. As Ben pointed out, having savings makes it easier to follow your conscience.
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For every discussion about saving money, there’s a K.
For my family and I, having a large amount of savings is about choices and freedom. I could choose to quit my job tomorrow (sole breadwinner of family of 4), and know we’d be OK for many years, even if DH and I are only able to rustle up minimum wage jobs. We can choose to take a year off of paid employment to take our kids around the country or other parts of the world.
We are free from worrying about the housing crisis, the stock market crisis, or the health of my employer. We care, but we’re not fundamentally worried about our ability to get through and get by.
We may never be rich, but we have far more freedom than we did when we owed other people money we didn’t have.
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Who else thinks Rupert kicked him out?
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Regarding K’s comment, I think he’s right in a way. Sometimes frugality can easily become selfishness and greediness. I think we all need to save and invest and be patient, but life is short and you never know what will happen tomorrow. If you have to go into crazy debt to enjoy today then you are wrong; but if you can’t enjoy today for worries and greed for tomorrow, you may be wasting your life.
On another hand, learning to save and not spend more than I have has allowed me to live a fuller, more content life. Being frugal is sometimes about being thankful for what we have and being a good steward for our families and future generations.
ps. i asked a question earlier which might be out of relevancy but would appreciate any thoughts.
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Some good points there, but let’s be realistic Money is a key ingredient for all aspects of our life – the “social aspect” should be how we use that money (or the time we could make that money in). All us Personal Finance bloggers, don’t write these blogs purely for making the world a better place, there is a commerical motive (after all look at the ads on your site). At my blog – http://www.savingtoinvest.com , which fits in nicely with this topic, is no different. I realize the value of saving and investing money wisely – which includes enjoying the moment – but you need to look out for the longer term as well.
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I understand the reasoning behind K’s comments. But saving and living below your means does not mean depriving yourself. The mental freedom that one gets from not living paycheck to paycheck, having no debt, and having money stashed away in case of an emergency is priceless.
Personally, I never want to go back to the days when I was spending like crazy thinking that material possessions where going to make me happy.
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“If you have money, you don’t have to worry about it.”
LOL. I remember in senior year of high school, our economics teacher said, “If you have a million dollars, then you have a million more problems.” At the time I thought it was nonsense, and thought a million dollars could solve any problem.
As I start to accumulate money (and am out of debt), I find that I worry about it more. When I was accumulating debt, I lived by the seat of my pants and didn’t care about money. Now that I have money, I am invested and now need to worry about health of the stock market, and the various financial things. I take a lot fewer risks because I’m scared of losing my money.
I think almost by definition people who have money, worry – or at least, think – about money more than those who don’t.
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Investing in a savings account and savings is important to do as an individual and as a family. Not only does it provide you with a safety net, but it also teaches you to live within your means.
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Read all of Clements’s stuff that you can find. The articles on the psychology of happiness are particularly worthwhile.
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Well, for me, saving for retirement is really having enough money to keep the same lifestyle before I retire. However, at this point in my life (I’m only 29), I don’t want to be too stingy that I stop enjoying everything. I still have my splurges.
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Thanks for posting about this – I haven’t been reading Clements recently, but there was a time when I’d forward his columns religiously.
I also just discovered he has a web site at http://www.jonathanclements.com/
JD: In a vein similar to the last Clements column, I give you this quote, from “Five Great Moments of Personal Finance”, according to Scott Burns:
#5 Learning real problems aren’t money problems. Our easy problems involve money. They may be terrifying, but there is always a solution. Our big problems are the ones that can’t be solved with money. They are the ones that make us cry in the night and pray for relief. The marriage that doesn’t work. The illness that can’t be cured. The child who is afflicted. The friend who won’t be helped. If you are an adult and still think money problems are real problems, you have led a charmed life. Be grateful.
Source: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134577538_pfburns17.html
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Great little gem. It’s part of the mission of my blog, exploring the point of money once you have enough.
I posted Jeff Brown’s final column from the Philadelphia Inquirer last year – he also wrote about personal finance. He took a buy out in his early 50′s… because he managed his modest journalist’s salary very well.
his advice is quite similar to Clements’-
moneychangesthings.blogspot.com/2007/01/jeff-brown-philly-inquirer-finance.html
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