In the past, I’ve shared the story of the worst job I ever had. In a lot of ways, it felt like I was part of a pyramid scheme or multi-level marketing operation. I’ve been approached to participate in similar operations since then: once by my veterinarian (?!?) and once by a stranger in a book store. Sometimes you cannot tell a scam is a scam until you see it up close, and then the sunk-cost fallacy will sometimes force you to make a poor choice. GRS reader Bozemblem recently sent me this story of his close encounter with a “business opportunity” that turned out to be a scam.
I’ve been reading Get Rich Slowly for about a year now, and I can definitely relate when you talk about your struggles and triumphs with money. Here’s an experience I recently had.
I currently work and live in one of the most expensive parts of the United States. I’m going to school part-time to get my MS in Computer Science. School is very expensive, even with my employer paying a great deal of the tuition. On top of that I’m getting married next year and I have a tiny amount of credit card debt. I do a very good job of budgeting my money; I follow it quite closely and it won’t be long before I’ve rid myself of the debt. However, as you might be able to tell, money is a bit of a concern and so I’m always looking for way to either decrease my spending (which I think I’ve done a good job of so far without going crazy) or increase my income (which is much harder to do, and it is my attempt to do so which is why I’m writing you).
Business opportunity
The other night I was in the grocery store buying some items for my sick fiancee. Unfortunately, there was only one cashier on duty and I was one of an unusually large number of customers that night. As I waited in line, a nice gentleman in line behind me struck up a conversation. I spent some time talking to him and eventually we got around to talking about what we did for a living, and I mentioned that I am a software engineer. Upon hearing that, he got pretty excited and told me that he was a small business owner in need of someone with my skill set. Seeing this as an opportunity to possible earn some extra money, we exchanged number and he promised to call me the next week to talk about opportunities for some part-time work with his company.
Later that next week he called me, and we set up a time to meet. He told me to meet him at a hotel the next week; he and some of his fellow small business owners were part of a larger corporation, and he presented this to me as an opportunity to network and meet other people who may be interested in my skills. Cautiously optimistic, I agreed.
Well tonight I met this individual and had quite the experience. It slowly started to come together for me, and the saddest part about it is that those were three hours that I will never get back. Turns out, it was just one large pyramid scheme, and it didn’t matter if I was a software engineer or not.
Pyramid scheme
Here’s how the operation works: you join as an “apprentice” of another member, and you maximize your profits by getting other people to become your “apprentice”. It was disguised as an “e-commerce” (sorry for the abuse of quotation marks) operation; basically you bought your home goods from this one organization instead of a place like Wal-Mart. Everyone else you got to sign up and buy those same goods from that organization would gain you some money. And when they got people to sign up, then you would get a cut of the profits as well. As soon as I had an opportunity, I left, feeling disgusted and embarrassed.
I however, was the only one. Of the other “candidates” in the room, only I left. Everyone else seemed excited. It’s not hard to see how. The speaker was very compelling; very funny and personable. He spoke of living a “lifestyle” as opposed to a life (my first red flag). Then he talked about stuff like “how would you feel if you could drive a different car…every day of the week!” He then had us list out which 7 cars we wanted. Actually, we listed out 6. Aston Martins, Rolls-Royces, etc… The 7th car he picked. And it was the car he drove, and he implied that it was through this program that he was able to afford it. I wish I could have left right then, but I was sitting near the front and although I hated myself for being there, I couldn’t bear to be rude either.
Your readers should be aware of these operations! They may sound good, and the money may be real, but it’s all top-heavy. The ones at the bottom (ie. YOU) won’t be making all that money, but you’ll help someone else do it! Beware of the charismatic speaker; this guy was really good; going so far as to say “I don’t even care if you join or not”. Implying, of course, that he’s doing us a favor, despite the fact that he wouldn’t have any money if no one signed up.
But that one statement was so powerful, and I could tell my fellow attendees were getting sucked in. That one statement created such a sense of urgency and yet indifference on his part. He was basically saying that he didn’t need us, that he can find more people, the “right” people. And he kept talking about us being “candidates”, and he spoke often of a selection process. I’m not privy to such information, but if I had to guess, I would say that we were all going to be selected.
Get rich quick!
That and numerous other methods were employed to give us a sense of opportunity, and give us a taste of the rich lifestyle. He was damn good at his job, and I don’t doubt that he’s made plenty of money off of his considerable talents. Oh, and don’t forget the $200 registration fee, the $150 insurance costs, and the undisclosed costs of the training materials. By the way, I only got those figures by pressing my “sponsor” until he finally relented.
It’s easy to see how people can get sucked in. Everyone else was just like me; needed a little extra cash, pressed for time and anxious to explore any opportunity, we were rip for picking. I thank goodness that my dad instilled in me a sense of skepticism, else I may have ended up with the rest of them.
Unfortunately, the road to riches isn’t that easy. It’s simple, but it isn’t quick and painless. You just gotta spend less than you earn (by prioritization and reducing the number of unnecessary “wants”), save as much as you can, diversify your investments, and constantly improve the most critical investment, yourself (through taking on a variety of tasks at your job, even if they’re outside of your typical skillset and by continuing your education). Invest in index funds, open a high-yield savings account, contribute at least enough to your 401(k) to max out your company’s match and fund your IRA; doing so will provide plenty of wealth going forward, just do the math!
A learning experience
There is one positive that came out of my experience with the pyramid scheme. The speaker preached constantly about how his program is different than a typical job because it gave you “freedom”. That’s not really true, it just transfers your obligations, and it provides you with a significant amount of risk if you are one of those who chose to do that type of thing full time (and there are those people).
The bright side for me was that I realized how much I hated the lack of freedom that working in a traditional career offers. And I’ve always had an idea for a real small business (as opposed to the scheme’s definition of a small business) that I’ve always wanted to open, and I’m going to start working towards that goal. I’ve been inspired to work to free myself from work, and to get to the point where I won’t be susceptible to schemes like the one I got sucked into tonight. Perhaps not the motivation these guys were looking for, but that’s what I got out of it!
Bozemblem’s experience is similar to several I’ve had in my own life. I believe he’s right: programs like this can provide income and success to those at the top, or to those who have special luck or motivation. But for most people, they’re actually a net loss. Do you have experience with pyramid schemes or multi-level marketing? Was this experience positive or negative? What advice do you have for others who might be considering this as a way to make money? Checkout line photo by szlea. Conference photo by Jeffrey Beall.
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A couple of years ago, a young mother I know asked me what I thought about Mary Kay. I said that I don’t care for those kind of programs and I don’t wear makeup enough to justify spending 2 – 3 times more than what I can get makeup for in my local drugstore. She joined the company anyway and worked her tail off. I felt bad for her and ordered some items, and she called me and read me the script trying to get me into the business as well. Questions about working for yourself and making lots of money, blah blah blah. I had just recently started my own non-mlm business (repairing computers) which was something I was much better at than trying to sell makeup that I don’t hardly wear myself. Her script wouldn’t allow her to take no for an answer, but she couldn’t get a yes from me so she gave up.
Now a couple years later she has a $5000 credit card bill (her supervisor encouraged her to buy her stock on credit) and a whole lot of stock that she can’t sell even at cost.
I feel so bad for her, that the company would take advantage of her being young, low income, with tiny children, and vulnerable.
Also, years ago when Quixtar was the new thing, we had a couple come to our house and try to sell us on the deal. 90% of the time they were there they were showing videos of people with big houses and lots of expensive toys. And they sang the Amway rally song for us. Yeah, the Amway song. My husband and I still laugh about it. We were young and fairly low-income at the time, with small children (one of which is disabled) and the last thing I wanted was to go around selling this program and leaving my kids with someone else in the hopes that I make a sale. At the time we lived in a trailer and drove an old car, so I know they thought they had some easy bait but we were suspicious, mainly of all the videos of rich people. The whole experience was very tacky.
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I worked for Cutco for 1 week in college, and recently had to almost physically kick two Kirby salesmen out of my house after my mom let them in.
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Prepaid Legal… I like the product, but I hate selling MLM because I always feel like I’m a scamster. So, I have a membership, but I don’t sell it. I’ve been very happy with the product. And it’s no expensive at all. Cheaper than Netflix. And I actually use it.
Plus, I doubled my money on their stock between 2000 and 2004, so that was nice…
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My wife was in Melaleuca for a while before we got married, and we have been invited to more ‘parties’ than I can count — Tupperware, Pampered Chef, Stampin’ Up, etc. These types of things seem to flourish in the church we used to belong to. The church provided a large network of people you could invite to your parties, and then guilt-trip them into buying something.
I got my wife out of Melaleuca pretty quickly, although she resented my efforts initially. The common fallacy that I have noticed, and also in the comments above, such as those about Cutco, is the claim that they make good products. Sure some products are good, but they are all overpriced relative to similar quality products in traditional stores, or through online retailers. Sure Cutco makes good serrated knives (if you like that, almost all of my knives are straight), but for the price, these products are not worth it. They make you think that they are the only ones who sell these products, but this is rarely, if ever the case. Want a nice baking stone? Buy one online, I guarantee it will be cheaper than Pampered Chef. Want scissors that can cut pennies? All scissors can cut pennies. (I really surprised a Cutco salesman when I cut a penny with the little scissors I kept on my keychain. Why would you want to cut pennies anyway? Or, for that matter, cut leather or rope with your kitchen knives?)
Even if I see a product I like, I make a point of going somewhere else for it, not only for the savings, but also because I don’t like to support the business model. Don’t fall for the guilt trip, you only encourage further similar behavior, and you keep deluding these ‘salespeople’ with the idea that they have found a good job, when they could be searching for better, legitimate, jobs.
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I got in quixtar/amway for social reasons and left because it was a bad opportunity very very pushy and fake people(at least in my area) did prepaid legal, good product lots of friends benefited from product again I was in a shady team so got out. Got in vemma but got out cause it is saturated in this town but it was good honest people and I have a friend making 40k a year p.t. another 10k a month, another a few hundred and another over 2 million a year ! They are great people ate all living modest lifestyles and worked their butts off. So I am open to mlm if its good company and id be working with a good honest team. But I agree Lotta bad eggs in mlm as in all other sales companies .
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When I was a freshman in college I got a letter in the mail from Vector marketing. Training was 3 days and they wanted us to sell Cutco knives.
On the 2nd day they told us that we would have to buy a $100 knife kit to take to our sales sessions. They never told me anything about buying a knife kit during the interview.
So I told the manager that I didn’t have the money and I asked why they didn’t provide knife kits, the manager actually said that they were afraid we would steal it. Yeah great way to instill confidence in your employees.
Every job I’ve had provided uniforms and training. I thought it was stupid how they thought we would steal anything from them. They target college students because they know that adults with experience wouldn’t fall for their shtick.
I quit training and a week later at Wal-Mart I ran into a guy that was in my training class and he said that it wasn’t worth it. During training it was implied we needed to call up people we know to sell them stuff.
I never wanted to pitch products to family and friends, I hate it when that stuff is pitched to me and I wouldn’t do it to my family or friends.
Yeah Vector might not be technically a scam because they do have products to sell, but the way they approach business is sneaky and deceptive. In the internet age, I think person to person knife selling is an outdated concept.
If I want a knife I’ll buy it on Amazon.com thanks. Why have a third party? So I don’t bother with MLMs and other garbage like that. I avoid door to door salesmen and turn up my tv if they come to my door.
I tried to be nice in the past, but I had one experience when I told the guy no thank you after he made his speech. But some of them don’t care if you respectfully decline they’ll be rude to you. So what’s the point?
After that experience I didn’t want to deal with salespeople so now I turn up the tv if its someone like that. I don’t need their attitude. I also have skype and a cell phone instead of a landline, and I don’t have to deal with telemarketers anymore.
Yeah I’ll spend money on decent clothes and gas to go to work but that’s why you go to work so you can get money, an employer shouldn’t be asking money out of you.
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