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		<title>By: TwistedB</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/05/31/richie-rich-and-the-high-price-of-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-135925</link>
		<dc:creator>TwistedB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with icup.

The article is a little extreme. We all know that gas is more expensive in places such as london, europe and so on. But the US is a very large place and there are many people that just dont have the circumstances to be able to bike or use public transportation. Many people are increasingly being pushed out of their own income bracket becuase gas keeps going up but salary stays the same. It&#039;s not like you can telecommute to a construction site or retail store.

Also, and what I agree with most is how bad it is to spike this quick. Yes prices were inevitable to rise. But to rise so quickly puts to hard of a strain on the common folk just trying to make it through. Good for big companies being forced to make changes, but it is much harder for someone making minimum wage or around their to absorb those costs.

Changes need to be made both at the enduser and the mfgs. But something this drastic has a really negative effect on many other economic areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with icup.</p>
<p>The article is a little extreme. We all know that gas is more expensive in places such as london, europe and so on. But the US is a very large place and there are many people that just dont have the circumstances to be able to bike or use public transportation. Many people are increasingly being pushed out of their own income bracket becuase gas keeps going up but salary stays the same. It&#8217;s not like you can telecommute to a construction site or retail store.</p>
<p>Also, and what I agree with most is how bad it is to spike this quick. Yes prices were inevitable to rise. But to rise so quickly puts to hard of a strain on the common folk just trying to make it through. Good for big companies being forced to make changes, but it is much harder for someone making minimum wage or around their to absorb those costs.</p>
<p>Changes need to be made both at the enduser and the mfgs. But something this drastic has a really negative effect on many other economic areas.</p>
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		<title>By: SAD !!</title>
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		<dc:creator>SAD !!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey here in Canada the cost for gas is $1.47 per liter  i would pay from $145 - $200 per fill up !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey here in Canada the cost for gas is $1.47 per liter  i would pay from $145 &#8211; $200 per fill up !!</p>
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		<title>By: Nuno Felino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuno Felino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry guys...but let me just share my &quot;pain&quot; in Europe (Portugal):

- car: BWM 320d (diesel)
- fuel: 60liters

Just fill it up today morning = 85€ (US$ 131,75)

Cheer up ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry guys&#8230;but let me just share my &#8220;pain&#8221; in Europe (Portugal):</p>
<p>- car: BWM 320d (diesel)<br />
- fuel: 60liters</p>
<p>Just fill it up today morning = 85€ (US$ 131,75)</p>
<p>Cheer up <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another problem related to higher gas proces - I just read a news article saying that the various auto aid services (AAA and the like) are seeing a large jump in calls from people who have run out of gas.  With the higher prices, folks are not filling their tanks and trying to get by further on what is in their tank.  The article also stated that running on fumes can cause problems for your fuel pump, leading to expensive repairs eventually.  Just another thing to worry about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another problem related to higher gas proces &#8211; I just read a news article saying that the various auto aid services (AAA and the like) are seeing a large jump in calls from people who have run out of gas.  With the higher prices, folks are not filling their tanks and trying to get by further on what is in their tank.  The article also stated that running on fumes can cause problems for your fuel pump, leading to expensive repairs eventually.  Just another thing to worry about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Nova Scotia, Canada and it is $1.38 for a litre of gas here which is about $5.31/gallon.  America has some of the cheapest gas because it isn&#039;t taxed as much as most other countries.  I&#039;d rather pay the extra gas taxes and keep our health care system, thank you very much.  

Frankly, as expensive as gas is now, I have oil heat and am way more concerned with how expensive it is going to be to heat my home come winter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Nova Scotia, Canada and it is $1.38 for a litre of gas here which is about $5.31/gallon.  America has some of the cheapest gas because it isn&#8217;t taxed as much as most other countries.  I&#8217;d rather pay the extra gas taxes and keep our health care system, thank you very much.  </p>
<p>Frankly, as expensive as gas is now, I have oil heat and am way more concerned with how expensive it is going to be to heat my home come winter.</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out my new ride:  1400 mpg!
http://www.scootonthis.com/inserts/dart/photos_veloce.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out my new ride:  1400 mpg!<br />
<a href="http://www.scootonthis.com/inserts/dart/photos_veloce.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scootonthis.com/inserts/dart/photos_veloce.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ross Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh to have fuel that cheap !

Here in Scotland we are currently at £1.25 and climbing for a litre of diesel.
My last fill up was £75.00, lets call that $150 for arguments sake !
The bulk of that goes to the government in tax, but it is coming out of my pocket !

Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh to have fuel that cheap !</p>
<p>Here in Scotland we are currently at £1.25 and climbing for a litre of diesel.<br />
My last fill up was £75.00, lets call that $150 for arguments sake !<br />
The bulk of that goes to the government in tax, but it is coming out of my pocket !</p>
<p>Ross</p>
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		<title>By: icup</title>
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		<dc:creator>icup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that celebrate-the-$8-a-gallon article was extremely frustrating to me. This guys points are so naive and in some cases downright insulting:

&quot;1.RIP for the internal-combustion engine - There should be some sort of Moore&#039;s law for fuel efficiency. &quot;

This is naive to point of ridiculousness. For one thing, most of fuel efficiency is spent pushing a column of air around. There&#039;s only so much you can do to make it more efficient, and that has mostly been done. Anyway, without internal combustion, that power would have to come from somewhere, and there is no better source than petroleum, period. 

&quot;3. Wither the Middle East&#039;s clout
This region that&#039;s contributed little to modern civilization exercises inordinate sway over the world because of its one significant contribution.&quot;

 Well, little if you don&#039;t count  things like rule of law, architectural fundamentals that keep our buildings standing, algebra, nearly all of our domesticated wheat crop varieties, beer, not to mention that pesky little thing called civilization itself. I know, I know, but what have they done for us *lately*, but still...

&quot;4. Deflating oil potentates
On a similar note, Venezuela&#039;s Hugo Chavez and Iran&#039;s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad recently gained a platform on the world stage because of their nations&#039; sudden oil wealth. Without it, they would face the difficult task of building fair and just economies and societies on some other basis.
How far would their message resonate -- and how long would they even stay in power -- if they were unable to buy off the temporary allegiance of their people with vast oil revenues? &quot;

Yeah, it well and truly sucks to see the little people of Venezuela get a leg up in life.

&quot;6. An antidote to sprawl&quot;

Don&#039;t even get me started. I don&#039;t *want* to move to a city. I don&#039;t *want* to live near all of your crime, pollution, noise, lights, stress and everything else that sucks about living in cities.

&quot;8. Easing global tensions&quot;

This one is perhaps the most naive of them all. As if the $2500 Tata in India would translate to a $2500 car in the US. He&#039;s erroneously comparing two completely different things. But beyond that, what he is suggesting here is tantamount to saying &quot;Let&#039;s just give up on oil and leave it all to the Chinese and Indians.&quot;. But maybe he&#039;s right. Maybe they will be kind and benevolent masters when they ultimately surpass us. Also nevermind the fact that he&#039;s saying the Indians and Chinese should get the increased standard of living, but not the Venezuelans. That strikes me as contradictory. Why does he hate Hugo Chavez so much? The Chinese government is far worse.

I *enjoy* our higher standard of living, and I&#039;m sure as hell not going to celebrate when we have to abandon it. In fact, if it happens in such short order, I think its going to be downright catastrophic. $8 a gallon gas might be a good thing IF we had 25 years to transition to it, but the way things are looking, we&#039;re probably going to get 2-3 years at most. That shouldn&#039;t make you celebrate, it should make you afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that celebrate-the-$8-a-gallon article was extremely frustrating to me. This guys points are so naive and in some cases downright insulting:</p>
<p>&#8220;1.RIP for the internal-combustion engine &#8211; There should be some sort of Moore&#8217;s law for fuel efficiency. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is naive to point of ridiculousness. For one thing, most of fuel efficiency is spent pushing a column of air around. There&#8217;s only so much you can do to make it more efficient, and that has mostly been done. Anyway, without internal combustion, that power would have to come from somewhere, and there is no better source than petroleum, period. </p>
<p>&#8220;3. Wither the Middle East&#8217;s clout<br />
This region that&#8217;s contributed little to modern civilization exercises inordinate sway over the world because of its one significant contribution.&#8221;</p>
<p> Well, little if you don&#8217;t count  things like rule of law, architectural fundamentals that keep our buildings standing, algebra, nearly all of our domesticated wheat crop varieties, beer, not to mention that pesky little thing called civilization itself. I know, I know, but what have they done for us *lately*, but still&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;4. Deflating oil potentates<br />
On a similar note, Venezuela&#8217;s Hugo Chavez and Iran&#8217;s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad recently gained a platform on the world stage because of their nations&#8217; sudden oil wealth. Without it, they would face the difficult task of building fair and just economies and societies on some other basis.<br />
How far would their message resonate &#8212; and how long would they even stay in power &#8212; if they were unable to buy off the temporary allegiance of their people with vast oil revenues? &#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, it well and truly sucks to see the little people of Venezuela get a leg up in life.</p>
<p>&#8220;6. An antidote to sprawl&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even get me started. I don&#8217;t *want* to move to a city. I don&#8217;t *want* to live near all of your crime, pollution, noise, lights, stress and everything else that sucks about living in cities.</p>
<p>&#8220;8. Easing global tensions&#8221;</p>
<p>This one is perhaps the most naive of them all. As if the $2500 Tata in India would translate to a $2500 car in the US. He&#8217;s erroneously comparing two completely different things. But beyond that, what he is suggesting here is tantamount to saying &#8220;Let&#8217;s just give up on oil and leave it all to the Chinese and Indians.&#8221;. But maybe he&#8217;s right. Maybe they will be kind and benevolent masters when they ultimately surpass us. Also nevermind the fact that he&#8217;s saying the Indians and Chinese should get the increased standard of living, but not the Venezuelans. That strikes me as contradictory. Why does he hate Hugo Chavez so much? The Chinese government is far worse.</p>
<p>I *enjoy* our higher standard of living, and I&#8217;m sure as hell not going to celebrate when we have to abandon it. In fact, if it happens in such short order, I think its going to be downright catastrophic. $8 a gallon gas might be a good thing IF we had 25 years to transition to it, but the way things are looking, we&#8217;re probably going to get 2-3 years at most. That shouldn&#8217;t make you celebrate, it should make you afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gas price in the US in not as high as you might believe:

Over here in Europe I pay about 124$ for a fill (Mercedes A170CDI, compact Car). That is only  50 liter Diesel for a distance of 850km.

In a year or two you may pay the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gas price in the US in not as high as you might believe:</p>
<p>Over here in Europe I pay about 124$ for a fill (Mercedes A170CDI, compact Car). That is only  50 liter Diesel for a distance of 850km.</p>
<p>In a year or two you may pay the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring on the high gasoline prices. My wife and I each drive a compact car long before prices are what they are now. We live in an energy efficient home. We recycle as much as we can. Conservation and reduction of excess are the keys here- there has been too much excess using a non-renewable resource such as gasoline. What kind of future are we leaving for the next generation if we squander it all now? 

While not totally responsible for the exising pain at the pump the US copious demand for gasoline (and other excesses) has helped cause the poor to suffer locally as well as internationally because many of us want to drive trucks and SUVs that get us 10 mpg. Now with demand exceeding supply high food prices are one result of this problem which force families in developing countries to eat one meal per day instead of two.
High gas prices throughout the world will lower demand and eventually temper the high per barrel oil price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring on the high gasoline prices. My wife and I each drive a compact car long before prices are what they are now. We live in an energy efficient home. We recycle as much as we can. Conservation and reduction of excess are the keys here- there has been too much excess using a non-renewable resource such as gasoline. What kind of future are we leaving for the next generation if we squander it all now? </p>
<p>While not totally responsible for the exising pain at the pump the US copious demand for gasoline (and other excesses) has helped cause the poor to suffer locally as well as internationally because many of us want to drive trucks and SUVs that get us 10 mpg. Now with demand exceeding supply high food prices are one result of this problem which force families in developing countries to eat one meal per day instead of two.<br />
High gas prices throughout the world will lower demand and eventually temper the high per barrel oil price.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to LOVE Richie Rich.
One frugal habit--- own several outfits that are all the same. No one will expect you to continuously look snazzy and you&#039;ll save some bucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to LOVE Richie Rich.<br />
One frugal habit&#8212; own several outfits that are all the same. No one will expect you to continuously look snazzy and you&#8217;ll save some bucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I didn&#039;t live in Texas where the summers blister (despite the alleged global warming), then I could consider a moped...if I didn&#039;t have to wear business attire everyday.


If I was not a local management consultant with clients around the metroplex, then I could consider public transportation. Mass transit is not a forte here, especially the areas I travel to.

Riding and walking to work...not an option.

Car pooling is potentially an option but invariably schedules do not align. More investigation needed - probably the best bet.

Kimberly Amadeo has &lt;a href=&quot;http://useconomy.about.com/od/commoditiesmarketfaq/p/high_oil_prices.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an interesting article&lt;/a&gt; that exposes other greedy individuals at the root of our oil situation. 

We all know somebody somewhere is being very greedy, but it may not be the American consumer, the oil execs, or OPEC alone.

&quot;Crude &lt;b&gt;oil prices have increased 25% in the first quarter of 2008&lt;/b&gt;. According to most news sources, this is a result of &lt;b&gt;surging demand from China and India&lt;/b&gt;, and a &lt;b&gt;curtailment of oil supply from Nigeria and Iraq&lt;/b&gt;....the price of oil is being affected by more than supply and demand. In fact, the data shows global &lt;b&gt;demand is down&lt;/b&gt; and global &lt;b&gt;supply is up&lt;/b&gt;. Oil consumption decreased from 86.66 million barrels per day (bpd) in Q4 2007 to 85.73 million bpd as of this quarter. During this same time period, supply has increased from 85.49 to 86.17 million bpd. According to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;laws of supply and demand&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;b&gt;prices should have decreased&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;

The EIA says look to commodities traders for part of the blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I didn&#8217;t live in Texas where the summers blister (despite the alleged global warming), then I could consider a moped&#8230;if I didn&#8217;t have to wear business attire everyday.</p>
<p>If I was not a local management consultant with clients around the metroplex, then I could consider public transportation. Mass transit is not a forte here, especially the areas I travel to.</p>
<p>Riding and walking to work&#8230;not an option.</p>
<p>Car pooling is potentially an option but invariably schedules do not align. More investigation needed &#8211; probably the best bet.</p>
<p>Kimberly Amadeo has <a href="http://useconomy.about.com/od/commoditiesmarketfaq/p/high_oil_prices.htm" rel="nofollow">an interesting article</a> that exposes other greedy individuals at the root of our oil situation. </p>
<p>We all know somebody somewhere is being very greedy, but it may not be the American consumer, the oil execs, or OPEC alone.</p>
<p>&#8220;Crude <b>oil prices have increased 25% in the first quarter of 2008</b>. According to most news sources, this is a result of <b>surging demand from China and India</b>, and a <b>curtailment of oil supply from Nigeria and Iraq</b>&#8230;.the price of oil is being affected by more than supply and demand. In fact, the data shows global <b>demand is down</b> and global <b>supply is up</b>. Oil consumption decreased from 86.66 million barrels per day (bpd) in Q4 2007 to 85.73 million bpd as of this quarter. During this same time period, supply has increased from 85.49 to 86.17 million bpd. According to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand" rel="nofollow">laws of supply and demand</a>, <b>prices should have decreased</b>.&#8221;</p>
<p>The EIA says look to commodities traders for part of the blame.</p>
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		<title>By: jerichohill</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerichohill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Peak Oil&quot; is a misnomer. There&#039;s a ton of oil out there, its just dirtier to get at.

Please, don&#039;t believe the fad theory that is Peak Oil.  Surging demand from India and China along with the destabilization of the M.E. is to blame 

And well, cheap oil too!  No need to economize and conserve when oil is cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Peak Oil&#8221; is a misnomer. There&#8217;s a ton of oil out there, its just dirtier to get at.</p>
<p>Please, don&#8217;t believe the fad theory that is Peak Oil.  Surging demand from India and China along with the destabilization of the M.E. is to blame </p>
<p>And well, cheap oil too!  No need to economize and conserve when oil is cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Chris, #20,
It&#039;s unfortunate that those auto makers didn&#039;t have the foresight to continue to make those fuel efficient vehicles after the fuel crises in 1973 and 1979 and to improve upon them so that they would be more economical to make and more attractive to the consumer. This current situation was predictable (i.e., past is prologue) and for the auto makers to regress to the point where the most commonly sold vehicles today are hardly any more fuel efficient than my dad&#039;s old 1968 Chevy Impala, is a disgrace. I have read many people being pleased about the rise in the cost of gas to chasten the consumers, myself being one of them who is pleased. Well, I am pleased that the American auto companies are being chastened with their poor sales as people move toward those fuel efficient vehicles that are ready and waiting from the Japanese and German manufacturers, while we desperately try to play catch-up. We apparently didn&#039;t get it in 1973 or 1979, so maybe now we will get it and finally do the right things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Chris, #20,<br />
It&#8217;s unfortunate that those auto makers didn&#8217;t have the foresight to continue to make those fuel efficient vehicles after the fuel crises in 1973 and 1979 and to improve upon them so that they would be more economical to make and more attractive to the consumer. This current situation was predictable (i.e., past is prologue) and for the auto makers to regress to the point where the most commonly sold vehicles today are hardly any more fuel efficient than my dad&#8217;s old 1968 Chevy Impala, is a disgrace. I have read many people being pleased about the rise in the cost of gas to chasten the consumers, myself being one of them who is pleased. Well, I am pleased that the American auto companies are being chastened with their poor sales as people move toward those fuel efficient vehicles that are ready and waiting from the Japanese and German manufacturers, while we desperately try to play catch-up. We apparently didn&#8217;t get it in 1973 or 1979, so maybe now we will get it and finally do the right things.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To post #24,

The one thing inflation adjustments don&#039;t seem to take into consideration is the lifestyle differences that have taken place in the time since, in your example, the Model T. Prior to the Model T, there weren&#039;t a lot of people with autos and they weren&#039;t as virtually indispensable as they are now. Therefore, very few people were spending any money on gasoline for transportation to and from work. And work was usually performed locally in those days, so you were walking to work, taking public transit of some sort more than likely in those days. And if you consider that just fuel alone is 20% more today than in 1910 for instance, those items that need to be transported today are probably on the order of 20% higher as well. All those 20% increases add up pretty quickly and place added burdens on a family&#039;s budget. So I wouldn&#039;t be too quick in dismissing the effects of a 20% increase in any item that needs to be purchased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To post #24,</p>
<p>The one thing inflation adjustments don&#8217;t seem to take into consideration is the lifestyle differences that have taken place in the time since, in your example, the Model T. Prior to the Model T, there weren&#8217;t a lot of people with autos and they weren&#8217;t as virtually indispensable as they are now. Therefore, very few people were spending any money on gasoline for transportation to and from work. And work was usually performed locally in those days, so you were walking to work, taking public transit of some sort more than likely in those days. And if you consider that just fuel alone is 20% more today than in 1910 for instance, those items that need to be transported today are probably on the order of 20% higher as well. All those 20% increases add up pretty quickly and place added burdens on a family&#8217;s budget. So I wouldn&#8217;t be too quick in dismissing the effects of a 20% increase in any item that needs to be purchased.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not confirmed this fact that I heard on NPR, but gas is only 20% higher in inflation adjusted dollars than when the Model T first came out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not confirmed this fact that I heard on NPR, but gas is only 20% higher in inflation adjusted dollars than when the Model T first came out.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those people that feels higher gas prices have a silver lining.  I appreciated the link to the article explaining the benefits.  There are just too many people and businesses that will not change until the economics of it forces them to do so.

No offense to anyone.  I&#039;m not rich and I am familiar with the anger of feeling squeezed.

http://tinyurl.com/428os2
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those people that feels higher gas prices have a silver lining.  I appreciated the link to the article explaining the benefits.  There are just too many people and businesses that will not change until the economics of it forces them to do so.</p>
<p>No offense to anyone.  I&#8217;m not rich and I am familiar with the anger of feeling squeezed.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/428os2" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/428os2</a></p>
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		<title>By: r k</title>
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		<dc:creator>r k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Motercycles are cheaper to run. So are scooters. How much fuel is needed to propel a human body a hundred miles anyway? Cars are great if you have 2-3 people going with you. Otherwise most of the fuel is burnt pushing dead metel to and fro from the workplace. The lesser metel enclosing you from all sides the better. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motercycles are cheaper to run. So are scooters. How much fuel is needed to propel a human body a hundred miles anyway? Cars are great if you have 2-3 people going with you. Otherwise most of the fuel is burnt pushing dead metel to and fro from the workplace. The lesser metel enclosing you from all sides the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been saying for years that I will throw a party when gas hits $5/gallon. I can&#039;t wait. I&#039;ve seen more cyclists on the roads, and my husband has seen more people on the bus. Yes, he takes a bus to work when he could drive his hybrid. The hybrid costs more than $.25 each way, and only saves a modest amount of time.

I&#039;m all for anything that will make people think twice before jumping in a car. Carpool, take a bus, ride there, walk there. So many options that are better for congestion, better for our lungs, and better for our environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years that I will throw a party when gas hits $5/gallon. I can&#8217;t wait. I&#8217;ve seen more cyclists on the roads, and my husband has seen more people on the bus. Yes, he takes a bus to work when he could drive his hybrid. The hybrid costs more than $.25 each way, and only saves a modest amount of time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for anything that will make people think twice before jumping in a car. Carpool, take a bus, ride there, walk there. So many options that are better for congestion, better for our lungs, and better for our environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter - I was probably a bit glib when I said the auto companies weren&#039;t to blame.  You are correct in saying they were fighting (and still are) any additional fuel economy and emissions regulations, including those in California right now.  However, that said, in an era of cheap oil, it would take extraordinary circumstances for a private company to focus on fuel economy when it&#039;s not the focus of consumers.  That is where our policy, really the lack of policy, failed us.  If we had mandated more efficient vehicles AND maybe even more importantly, introduced policies that helped us reduced the amount of driving, most of us would be talking about $4-5 gas as if it weren&#039;t a huge deal, because it would be $40 to fill up our car, and we would have arranged our lives   such that we don&#039;t need to fill up that often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter &#8211; I was probably a bit glib when I said the auto companies weren&#8217;t to blame.  You are correct in saying they were fighting (and still are) any additional fuel economy and emissions regulations, including those in California right now.  However, that said, in an era of cheap oil, it would take extraordinary circumstances for a private company to focus on fuel economy when it&#8217;s not the focus of consumers.  That is where our policy, really the lack of policy, failed us.  If we had mandated more efficient vehicles AND maybe even more importantly, introduced policies that helped us reduced the amount of driving, most of us would be talking about $4-5 gas as if it weren&#8217;t a huge deal, because it would be $40 to fill up our car, and we would have arranged our lives   such that we don&#8217;t need to fill up that often.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pay $200 to fill my haul-to-the-dump full size truck. It costs me about $.45 a mile to drive it just in gasoline.

But that&#039;s as it should be. How often do you still see people just idling in long lines that aren&#039;t going anywhere for awhile, or leaving their car running to go into the store? As long as that&#039;s still going on, gas is still too cheap.

My motorcycle gets 50 MPG, and that&#039;s the sporty one. The other gets 80 MPG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pay $200 to fill my haul-to-the-dump full size truck. It costs me about $.45 a mile to drive it just in gasoline.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s as it should be. How often do you still see people just idling in long lines that aren&#8217;t going anywhere for awhile, or leaving their car running to go into the store? As long as that&#8217;s still going on, gas is still too cheap.</p>
<p>My motorcycle gets 50 MPG, and that&#8217;s the sporty one. The other gets 80 MPG.</p>
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		<title>By: JenK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spend about $15 every week on gas for my 2002 Prius. I&#039;d like to get it down to every &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; week again + bus pass, but The Powers That Be rearranged bus service in my area a few months ago...it much easier for me to get from home to Microsoft now, but not to MY workplace. 

(Naturally the neighbors who do work at msft don&#039;t take the bus.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spend about $15 every week on gas for my 2002 Prius. I&#8217;d like to get it down to every <i>other</i> week again + bus pass, but The Powers That Be rearranged bus service in my area a few months ago&#8230;it much easier for me to get from home to Microsoft now, but not to MY workplace. </p>
<p>(Naturally the neighbors who do work at msft don&#8217;t take the bus.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High prices will constrain oil consumption. Now if only we could convince Congress to let oil companies drill for oil in the US in order to increase the supply...

Oh, well. I don&#039;t think that we will have a crisis unless the government interferes. Our economy will adapt over time. I&#039;m not worried. Just think about how much of our transportation used to be dependent on horses, wood, coal, human power, etc.

Greenspan gave a speech back in 2004 about oil in which he describe the declining &quot;oil intensity&quot; of the US economy:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2004/200410152/default.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High prices will constrain oil consumption. Now if only we could convince Congress to let oil companies drill for oil in the US in order to increase the supply&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, well. I don&#8217;t think that we will have a crisis unless the government interferes. Our economy will adapt over time. I&#8217;m not worried. Just think about how much of our transportation used to be dependent on horses, wood, coal, human power, etc.</p>
<p>Greenspan gave a speech back in 2004 about oil in which he describe the declining &#8220;oil intensity&#8221; of the US economy:<br />
<a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2004/200410152/default.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2004/200410152/default.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first read &lt;i&gt;The Long Emergency&lt;/i&gt; &#8212; a book about &quot;peak oil&quot; and the implications of the end of cheap fuel &#8212; I was a bit of a skeptic. Since reading the book, however, I&#039;ve been paying more attention to the news, and I have to say that everything seems to confirm the notion that oil production has peaked and we&#039;re in for a future of higher fuel prices, etc. I&#039;m not saying this is definitely the case, just that I no longer think the idea is crazy.

As a smart guy who likes to think about the world, I can understand why higher fuel prices &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; be beneficial. As a consumer, I want gas prices to drop! I don&#039;t drive much, especially since I&#039;m working from home, but I still think it&#039;s crazy to pay more than $20 to fill up my car. And $40? Yikes!

p.s. Yeah, I know this cover was actually a commentary on the state of the economy in 1978. I was just trying to make it relevant to today! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first read <i>The Long Emergency</i> &mdash; a book about &#8220;peak oil&#8221; and the implications of the end of cheap fuel &mdash; I was a bit of a skeptic. Since reading the book, however, I&#8217;ve been paying more attention to the news, and I have to say that everything seems to confirm the notion that oil production has peaked and we&#8217;re in for a future of higher fuel prices, etc. I&#8217;m not saying this is definitely the case, just that I no longer think the idea is crazy.</p>
<p>As a smart guy who likes to think about the world, I can understand why higher fuel prices <i>could</i> be beneficial. As a consumer, I want gas prices to drop! I don&#8217;t drive much, especially since I&#8217;m working from home, but I still think it&#8217;s crazy to pay more than $20 to fill up my car. And $40? Yikes!</p>
<p>p.s. Yeah, I know this cover was actually a commentary on the state of the economy in 1978. I was just trying to make it relevant to today! <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alison Wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we all have to get used to driving less in light of global warming and also peak oil. Carpooling tends to get overlooked as we&#039;re dealing with high gas prices -- it is really driving ALONE that is expensive. But driving in a group is a different financial animal -- one-fifth the price for me -- and also lots of fun, in my experience.  More at
http://www.diamondcutlife.org/saving-money-with-carpooling/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we all have to get used to driving less in light of global warming and also peak oil. Carpooling tends to get overlooked as we&#8217;re dealing with high gas prices &#8212; it is really driving ALONE that is expensive. But driving in a group is a different financial animal &#8212; one-fifth the price for me &#8212; and also lots of fun, in my experience.  More at<br />
<a href="http://www.diamondcutlife.org/saving-money-with-carpooling/" rel="nofollow">http://www.diamondcutlife.org/saving-money-with-carpooling/</a></p>
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		<title>By: b-bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>b-bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its no surprise that the comic was from 1978, it wasn&#039;t predicting the future, it was commenting on the current state of affairs in 78</description>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drive for recreation to Jackson, TN and Little Rock, AR from Memphis on occasion.  Both are right off I-40 I used to drive 80mph on I-40, now I try to go about 65.  I&#039;ve been amazed that I actually conserve a noticable amount of gas when I drive at 65.  Two other things I&#039;ve noticed since I started slowing down.  1) Large trucks are going 60-65 now.  I used to get blown off the road, not anymore.  2) Lots of other people are driving slower, too.  When I&#039;d go 80 I would still get passed regularily, especially by SUVs.  Now it doesn&#039;t seem that way - I might get passed by a LExus or another sedan, but someone driving a Lexus probably isn&#039;t than affected by gas prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drive for recreation to Jackson, TN and Little Rock, AR from Memphis on occasion.  Both are right off I-40 I used to drive 80mph on I-40, now I try to go about 65.  I&#8217;ve been amazed that I actually conserve a noticable amount of gas when I drive at 65.  Two other things I&#8217;ve noticed since I started slowing down.  1) Large trucks are going 60-65 now.  I used to get blown off the road, not anymore.  2) Lots of other people are driving slower, too.  When I&#8217;d go 80 I would still get passed regularily, especially by SUVs.  Now it doesn&#8217;t seem that way &#8211; I might get passed by a LExus or another sedan, but someone driving a Lexus probably isn&#8217;t than affected by gas prices.</p>
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		<title>By: jerichohill</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerichohill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a scooter.  It costs me about 5 bucks to go 200 miles</description>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Scotsman living in Texas, this is the cheapest I have ever paid for gasoline! Though Texas is a damn big state and the small town we live in has no public transport and barely any side-walks. I&#039;m paying a lot less for gas but a lot more driving is involved in day to day life. We&#039;re just going to have to get used to it and sell the suburbans, trucks and muscle cars and start driving 4 cylinder, smaller engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Scotsman living in Texas, this is the cheapest I have ever paid for gasoline! Though Texas is a damn big state and the small town we live in has no public transport and barely any side-walks. I&#8217;m paying a lot less for gas but a lot more driving is involved in day to day life. We&#8217;re just going to have to get used to it and sell the suburbans, trucks and muscle cars and start driving 4 cylinder, smaller engines.</p>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/05/31/richie-rich-and-the-high-price-of-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-134575</link>
		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid $42 to fill up my 2006 Honda Civic in the beginning of the week. With my driving pattern, I need to fill it up about once every other week which isn&#039;t a huge deal.  

Maybe because I don&#039;t spend that much total for gas, I also see some positives in high prices. It makes people conserve more; it provides incentive for car manufacturers to produce more efficient cars; it makes people buy smaller cars. Even though extra cost isn&#039;t a huge deal to me, I still started to car pool with a friend a couple of days a week, and work from home more. Why not reduce consumption if we can? 

Pixel Kid - I do know what you are talking about. I have a cousin who lives in Germany. A couple of years ago we went to Sicily together and rented a car. A really tiny one compared to which my Honda Civic is huge, and with manual transmission too (my cousin can drive those, I can&#039;t). We alternated paying for gas, and was I surprised when I paid 50 Euro to fill up this tiny thing. Wonder how much it would&#039;ve been now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid $42 to fill up my 2006 Honda Civic in the beginning of the week. With my driving pattern, I need to fill it up about once every other week which isn&#8217;t a huge deal.  </p>
<p>Maybe because I don&#8217;t spend that much total for gas, I also see some positives in high prices. It makes people conserve more; it provides incentive for car manufacturers to produce more efficient cars; it makes people buy smaller cars. Even though extra cost isn&#8217;t a huge deal to me, I still started to car pool with a friend a couple of days a week, and work from home more. Why not reduce consumption if we can? </p>
<p>Pixel Kid &#8211; I do know what you are talking about. I have a cousin who lives in Germany. A couple of years ago we went to Sicily together and rented a car. A really tiny one compared to which my Honda Civic is huge, and with manual transmission too (my cousin can drive those, I can&#8217;t). We alternated paying for gas, and was I surprised when I paid 50 Euro to fill up this tiny thing. Wonder how much it would&#8217;ve been now.</p>
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