My Mid-Year Financial Checkup: I Am Spending Too Much on Food
Published on - June 25th, 2008 (by J.D. Roth) “Want to go out to dinner?” I asked Kris last Monday night.
“No,” she said.
“Want to go out to dinner?” I asked Kris last Tuesday night.
“No,” she said.
I asked her again on Wednesday and Thursday and got the same response. “How come you never want to go out to dinner anymore?” I asked.
She gave me one of Those Looks. “J.D., are you kidding?” she said. “We’ve been going out to dinner a lot since you’ve been working from home.”
I was flabbergasted. “No way,” I said. “We never go out to dinner. Hardly at all.”
When we told this story to our friends Mike and Rhonda over the weekend, Mike pointed out that there was an easy way to determine who was right. “Check your receipts,” he said. “Bank statements don’t lie.”
Because it’s been six months since I examined my spending, I sat down this morning to do just that. I went through Quicken (for my personal expenses) and QuickBooks (for my business expenses), verifying that all accounts were up-to-date. I juggled some money around between accounts. I ran some “what-if” scenarios and updated my spending plan.
When I’d finished, I ran the category summary report. The results both pleased and shocked me. My frugal habits are holding steady in some areas but are slipping in others — like dining out.
Here’s a table of certain key expenditures, broken into half-yearly columns:
![It looks like Kris is right. But is she? [table demonstrating that my spending is doing well, except for dining out]](http://www.getrichslowly.org/images/quickenjune2008.jpg)
As you can see, I’m doing well in some categories, but dining out is not one of them. It seems, in fact, that Kris was right: I’ve spent a lot more in restaurants since I began working from home. Digging a little deeper into Quicken’s reports, I learned that:
- We dined out 40 times during the first half of 2007, for an average of $23.51 per meal.
- We dined out 44 times during the second half of 2007, for an average of $25.26 per meal.
- We’ve dined out 41 times so far this year, for an average of $41.98 per meal.
I know inflation has boosted food prices, but they haven’t gone up that much. It turns out that we’re eating in restaurants just as often as we always have — nearly twice a week — but that our tastes have grown more expensive. Looking through the detailed reports, I can see this is exactly the case. Whereas before we often chose cheap places like Burgerville, Mike’s Drive-In, or Imperial Garden, this year we’ve been eating at Gino’s, Ciao Vito, and Nostrana. The food is better, it’s true, but it also costs much more.
Obviously, this is something I need to work on.
Some other notes about my spending:
- I have $327 in untracked cash expenses over the past three months. I’ve taken money out of the bank, but haven’t noted where the cash is going. I hate that. It needs to stop. Any tips?
- My fuel costs are beginning to fall. The last time I filled my tank was June 5th. Because I’m working at home, and because I’ve been walking and biking when possible, I’m buying less gas. (If gas prices were at last year’s levels, I’d have only spent about $500.)
- My comic book spending is creeping up a little. I need to watch that. During the last half of 2007, I was able to keep myself to about $60/month, which I can live with. I’m spending nearly twice that now.
- I have, however, finally been able to reduce my spending on books. I’ve been intentionally focusing on books I already own but have not read. And I’ve been using the library. This helps. It also helps that I’m staying away from bookstores. For the past year, my spending has been at acceptable levels. (Though it’s not reflected in the table above, I used to spend about $1000 on books every year.)
- My entertainment spending has been pared to the bone. I’ve purchased no DVDs or CDs this year. I’ve spent $80 at iTunes. And the bulk of the rest? Tickets to see The Decemberists, a round of Golf in April, and our recent culinary walking tour of Portland. Not bad.
- Pet spending is holding steady. I read a lot about how expensive pets are, but I don’t agree. They seem pretty inexpensive to me, especially for the pleasure we get from them.
- Important clarification: The grocery number represents only about half of our household spending on that category. Kris and I split that expense.
Overall, I’m pleased with my long-term progress. Though you can’t see it here, my spending on these categories was over $6,000 during the second half of 2004. I’ve managed to cut that by 33% while also eliminating debt and increasing my income. These changes make a huge difference to my monthly cash flow, allowing me to save and invest, and to breathe easily about money. Even when I spend too much on food.
Remember: There’s nothing inherently wrong with purchasing things that bring you joy. But problems come when you finance these purchases with debt. If you’re meeting your other financial goals and have money left over, it’s good to indulge your interests and passions.
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I am simply fascinated with the relationship between eating out and groceries – I’ve always suspected that the two are strangely unrelated in my life, too – for a 6 month boost of around 600 more dollars in eating our, your total grocery bill only went down by about 40 bucks for the period. I have been wondering about MY finances and it seems like for me, too, the more I eat out the more I spend, but the grocery bill remains a constant. Strange.
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You’re doing pretty damn good! For the eating out, using the old-fashioned envelope system might work great. You’ll never have to worry about overspending on too many nice meals, so you’ll get to really enjoy each experience out. Or, you could just have months where you get a whole lot of tacos.
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Ha. Sara, your comment is hilarious. I love the math. I’m spending $300/month on dining out and tacos at Cha Cha Cha are $2.50 each. I only drink water. (Though I do usually leave $1 tip for my order.)
So, in theory, if I only ate at Cha Cha Cha, I could have 220 tacos in 30 days. That’s seven tacos per day. In other words, I could have three tacos for lunch and three tacos for dinner every day, and leave a dollar tip, and I’d still finish $15 ahead of my current monthly spending on restaurants. I’d only have to worry about breakfast. That means I’d reduce my grocery bill significantly.
Summary: If I were to eat every lunch and dinner at Cha Cha Cha, I could save several hundred dollars a month on my current food expenses.
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J.D. I wouldn’t see eating 6 tacos every day as fitting in with your Get Fit Slowly plan!
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Thanks for sharing your 6 month update. This is one of those things I keep meaning to do. I appreciate seeing the actual numbers.
I loved the idea (post #60) about the occasional grocery luxury item to boost your eating at home “wow” factor.
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I have to say that I am really impressed at the honesty of your post about your finances. It might be tempting to pretend that you do everything perfectly, since you run a frugality blog. But the fact that you fall short makes you more likeable. I recently went to a gathering where everyone was talking about TV and saying how they only watched PBS, and I thought they were a bunch of boring liars. I would have liked it better if they admitted they watch a little South Park or Blind Date or some such crap as well as Masterpiece Theater, since I’m damned sure they’re doing it! So, I appreciate honest imperfections, since I have my own as well.
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My suggestion for tracking cash: sign up for a free JOTT account at http://www.jott.com. When you spend on something, immediately call JOTT on your cell phone and dictate a description of the expenditure and the amount. JOTT will transcribe your message and (at your option) either email you or post it on a list on your igoogle homepage. Once a week, transfer this info to Quicken.
More elaborate than tracking paper receipts, but lots of fun!
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Hey, why shouldn’t people “admit” to watching South Park? It’s genius
I agree with Brad, try to balance your desires and hers. You are surely saving some money by working at home… buy her dinner.
I’ve been now working at home for one month myself and I’m saving a lot of money – 66 plus 27 euros per month for transportation and at least 100 for lunches and 20 for coffee specialties (hell, I’m in Italy, coffee break is important – and not as expensive as Starbucks) plus the little extras I couldn’t avoid sometimes. Wow!
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JD,
First, the local Baja Fresh in DC, that bastion of cheap living, has great baja tacos for 2.25. I think you’re getting a bum deal!
And secondly, should you eat 7 cha cha cha tacos a day, I think you’d have to change 1 letter in your fitness blog. It wouldn’t be getfitslowly anymore!
That aside, I definitely know there’s a relationship between groceries and dining out. WHen our kitchen is full, there is no impetus to eat out. But when its bare, and we’re left with leftover spinach pasta, or eggs, or eating out, that pizza sure is tempting (though we try not too)
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It may not be the food you’re craving but rather being around people. When you start working from home full time, it can be isolating and this may be a symptom of that issue. So try to find time to be around people (without eating out), and you desire to eat out so much may fade on its own.
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I believe that you have mentioned this before, but Paperback Swap is a GREAT way to trade books. I have cut my “book expense” drastically by using Paperback Swap. I have quite a few books that I have read and don’t wish to keep so why not get rid or downsize my book stash. Just a suggestion.
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I can’t believe anyone would spend that much money on eating out! Eat at home creatively and invest the money you save. You’ll be a millionaire in no time at all!
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Another idea for making money–along the lines of something you mentioned a few months ago, I think:
when you have a specific goal, go through the stuff you currently own and see what you haven’t used lately (DVDs, CDs, books), then sell them on Ebay or Half.com. Then you can “earn” your way to your new goal without putting up any new money.
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JD,
I’m with you on the tacos! I usually write a check for everything, if I get cash I spend it on Taco Bell Double Decker Taco Supremes. They are only a 1.59 not a budget buster but if I had a 20.00 bill…
Yesterday while eating my taco (or was that today) I thought they should have an option to come with chicken, could reduce the calorie intake.
Enjoy the blog, I’ve learned a great deal, thanks for sharing.
Sincerely,
Dolores
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JD,
Been reading your blog for about a year now. This is my first post. It’s great to hear that you’re a Decemberists fan! Hopefully some of your readers will check them out!
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I’m single and only eat out at cheap places, but I spend more than you on eating out because I eat out almost every day. I spend very little on groceries. My schedule is packed with activities after work (I have lots of hobbies), and I’m too lazy to cook beforehand or wash dishes frequently. I also spend a lot on cable TV and broadband. I spend very little on clothes, music, gas, or travel.
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J.D., I have one word for you: picnic. Working from home, it’s only natural that you want to get out of the house more when the workday is done, and you probably don’t want to spend very much time in the kitchen cooking, either.
Picnics don’t have to be elaborate; I tend to go to the fridge and grab a little of everything in there that is ready to eat and not too messy. Here are some items most people have on hand, which make excellent picnic food:
Baguette, pita, tortillas (or just regular bread)
hard-boiled eggs
sliced cold cuts
spreads (peanut butter, hummus, tuna salad)
cheese (string cheese, hard cheese, or soft cheese like Brie to put on your baguette – yum)
fresh fruit
cut-up raw veggies
beverages (iced tea, water, bottle of wine?)
Throw whatever you’ve got in a shopping bag (as long as you aren’t driving for hours, you don’t need a cooler), grab a blanket, head for the nearest park, and relax with your sweetie. Even simple, inexpensive foods like baby carrots and homemade hummus or peanut butter spread on a whole-wheat tortilla seem special when you’re lounging around on the grass in a park.
Voila! It’s cheap, it’s healthy, and you get out of the house with minimal effort in the kitchen!
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Love the picnic suggestion. Also, another way to make take home cheaper and still very appropriate for the lazy person:
Buy: 1 or 2 tacos per person
bag of prewashed lettuce.
Recipe: Put lettuce in bowl. Crush tacos into lettuce. Instant taco salad! (You can add other crap you have lying around if you want–can of corn, thawed frozen veggies, etc.
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There’s this dude with a blog called Get Rich Slowly, and he posted a bunch of links for using Quicken a little over a year ago. One of the links had a great tip on how to use Quicken to track cash. You should check out the Get Rich Slowly blog, its AWESOME!
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I have $327 in untracked cash expenses over the past three months. I’ve taken money out of the bank, but haven’t noted where the cash is going. I hate that. It needs to stop. Any tips?
J.D.,
I have the same problem. Tracking each individual expenditure is a big hassle, I’ve tried but given up. I realised that almost all of the cash goes to one category (in my case, the cash expenses are mostly buying my lunch at work, vending machine for sodas, etc.) so now I set up cash withdrawls with a Food category and then I just itemize the non-food cash expenses. I use Microsoft Money, and it makes it easy to set a default category for a type of spending, and split an expense into multiple categories. To remind myself of the expense, I stick the receipt in my wallet or use my cell phone voice recorded for non-receipt expenses.
Thanks for all the work you do on this blog.
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Wow, look at all these comments!
I hate saving receipts and entering expenses, so I use a super-simple technique for tracking cash purchases — I only use cash for “going out” (restaurants and bars). That way, when I see an ATM transaction on my account, I label it as “out” and I am done.
Sure, it’s not foolproof, but no system is!
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Love the picnic idea! Reminds me: I used to do that at least once a week!
I have a theoretical solution for cash, which may be what you previously advised. ATM withdrawals are entered as a TRANSFER to a PETTY CASH account (set up like bank or cc account).
What I’ve not been as good with is getting the whole family on board saving receipts or at least writing down the total (local farmer’s market doesn’t give receipts and workers look dumbfounded when asked to write the total on a scrap of paper).
If one carried a large wallet or a purse, envelopes of cash designated for various functions would work — that’s what I did on a vacation with a spendthrift partner. Each day had a stack of cash envelopes: food, activities, etc. We alternated being in charge of a day’s expenditures (envelopes).
I suppose you could stick a tiny Post-It to the front of a $20 and make a note on it each time you spend some.
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Cash transactions are easy for me. I plan what I want to use with the cash BEFORE I take it out.
Budget tacos/toys/entertainment and then when you withdraw $60 for that week, you can already categorize it as dining, entertainment, whatever.
It makes it a lot easier and then you don’t have to feel guilty about spending the cash because it already comes out of certain budget categories.
My dh and I get a certain amount of “mad” money each week. we don’t track it. it is ours to spend on whatever we want. it is in the budget as spending money. As long as you have personal spending money as a category in your budget, you are free to withdraw that amount and spend it on whatever you want.
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on saving money when you choose to eat out: there’s a website called restaurant [DOT] com . They sell discounted restaurant gift certificates. A $25 gift certificate sells for $10, a $10 for $3. And about once every two months they’ll have a 50% sale they email you about, if you’re on the list to get the code [I'm sure it's posted somewhere on the internet]. Sometimes 60% off sales. That means your $4 buys $25 worth at the restaurant.
Some caveats: Since I have no idea where you live, I have little idea how much this will help you. 99 restaurants were listed in Western Oregon. There are restrictions which vary by restaurant – have to spend a certain amount, have a minimum number of people in your party, can’t use it for alcohol, etc. Read carefully before you buy to make sure it’s still saving you money.
They’re kind of like coupons – It only saves you money if the item or service is something you would have bought without it.
Anyway, just something that might stretch your dining dollars further. It’s helped me discover some great new places on a budget.
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Yeah, dinning out can do a real number on the budget. We limit it to once a week, if that.
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Thanks to James Schaefer for the insightful comments, with kind attribution to the Journal’s Jonathan Clements and to Jim’s own brother, about the intriguing and powerful concept of “opportunity cost”. James’ letter appeared in Letters on October 23.
When we spend money on things we don’t need, not only do we lose that money, but we permanently deprive ourselves of what that money, better applied, could have yielded. $1 million (and maybe much, much more) is not lost by your carelessly misplacing it. It is lost $50 and $100 at a time. When you buy $10 glasses of beer, $15 glasses of wine, $50 lunches, $100 dinners, $125 ties and $500 shoes, you lose out on the future value those funds, if invested even in a poorly performing market, would have produced. Over a lifetime, the poorly performing markets will fade into nothingness and the long term results take effect. Indeed, the financial crises of the hour will one day be but a memory. The shock of realizing what you could have had will floor you and last a lifetime.
$1,000 per month invested at 8% for 35 years amounts to almost $2.3 million. Adjusting for 3% inflation, you would still have over $800,000 in today’s dollars. Take a look at your annual expenditures on things you don’t need and you’ll find the $1,000 (and maybe a lot more) a month.
Ignorance of the concept of opportunity cost can mean, after 35 years of well paid employment, having a negligible net worth at 60 and parking cars under the direction of a high school kid at 70. You can be young in this country and be without money but it’s really tough being old and in that shape and much worse to realize it needn’t have turned out that way. James’ brother advised saving “until it hurts.” What did he know that you don’t?
Richard E. Savoy
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