The Dirty Secrets of Debt Reduction (and What to Do About Them)
Published on - July 17th, 2008 (by J.D. Roth)
When I was a sophomore in college, I got my first credit card. I thought it was awesome — it was like free money. Soon I got another credit card, and before long I’d maxed them both out. I entered the work force with a handicap. I had the start of a nasty credit habit.
Because I’d grown up in a poor family, I had no notion of proper money skills. I made some bad decisions, which were in turn compounded by some rotten luck. Just five years after graduation, I had about $20,000 in credit card debt. For ten years, I tried to kick the habit. Sometimes I’d make progress, but then I’d find other ways to fall behind.
Here are some of the mistakes I made along the way and the steps I took to correct them:
I had no goals
When I was young, retirement seemed like something for old people. I did not understand the power of compound interest, that starting to save for retirement when I was 24 was far better than starting when I was 39. But more than that, I failed to set financial goals. I didn’t dream of taking a trip to Europe. I didn’t plan big purchases. If I wanted something, I bought it. On credit.
Eventually I realized the only thing that the only person who cared about my money was me. I set a goal: be out of debt within five years. You know what? The very act of setting this goal made a huge difference in my life. Suddenly, my money had a purpose. I focused my efforts on debt reduction. I didn’t get my debt paid off in five years — I paid it off in three.
I didn’t establish an emergency fund
Many financial experts recommend starting an emergency savings account before you begin to pay off debt. I was arrogant. I believed this advice didn’t apply to me. But then my car broke down and I needed to make $800 in repairs.
Because I didn’t have an emergency reserve, I was forced to open a credit account at the dealership to pay for the repairs. This debt felt terrible. (It would have felt even worse if I’d put it on an existing credit card.) I paid it off as soon as possible, and then paused my debt elimination plans for a few months in order to stash $1,000 in the bank.
I didn’t track my spending
One reason I was able to get so deep into debt was that I didn’t track where my money went. It was like a black box. I just spent to my credit limit. Once I started tracking my spending in Quicken, problem spots became obvious. By tracking every penny I spent, I had a clear idea of how much I was actually earning and spending, not just vague guesses. (If I were starting now, I might use a web-based tool like Wesabe or Mint or Yodlee or Quicken Online.)
I tried to pay high-interest debt first
Most of the financial gurus give the same advice about debt reduction: eliminate your debts starting with the highest-interest rate obligation first. This makes sense mathematically, of course, but what these experts fail to understand is that debt isn’t about math — it’s about mental mistakes. If debt were about math, nobody would have it.
For years I tried to pay off my high interest debts first, but I’d always give up. My high-interest debt had high balances, and it felt like I was never getting anywhere. Then I read about Dave Ramsey’s debt snowball. Using this method, you pay off your lowest balances first. This allows you to knock out a few debts right away, which gives you a tremendous psychological boost. Once I learned about the debt snowball, I was able to kick debt to the curb.
(Another valid approach is to first pay off the debt that bugs you the most. Have a loan from your brother-in-law that you feel guilty about? Pay that off before anything else.)
I led myself into temptation
I like comic books. I’ve collected them since I was a boy. As an adult, I discovered I could pay $20 or $30 or $50 each for bound volumes that collected many comic books at once. I have a weakness for these books.
When I started to pay off my debt, I kept going to comic book stores. “I’ll just look,” I’d tell myself. But the thing is, I didn’t just look. I bought. Every time I set foot inside a comic book store, I’d leave with a book or two. Comic books were my kryptonite.
Your kryptonite might be bicycling gear or yarn or shoes. Whatever it is, avoid it. If you know you have a weakness, steer clear of situations likely to make you spend. Remind yourself of your goals.
I treated mistakes as if they were the end of the world
Nobody’s perfect. I made mistakes all the time as I was paying off my debt. As I mentioned, I’d sometimes find myself buying comic books, or spending $80 on expensive bottles of Scotch whisky. When I was starting out, I’d let these mistakes get me down. I felt like they derailed all the work I’d done. But that’s not true.
Paying off debt is like playing baseball. You go out there and do your best every single day. You follow the fundamentals. If you make an error, you don’t give up — you make the play next time. If you strike out, you forget about it and step to the plate for your next at-bat.
I spent raises and windfalls
I used to view raises and tax refunds as a license to spend more money. $1200 back from the government? I’d use it to buy a new bike. A new raise at work? Time to subscribe to more magazines. Or maybe I can afford that deluxe cable package. I was succumbing to lifestyle inflation — as my income went up, so did my spending.
After reading Your Money or Your Life, I realized that the smart move wasn’t to increase my spending, but to decrease it. I cut magazine subscriptions and cable television. Instead of spending my tax refund, I applied it directly to debt. Sure, it would have felt nice to buy a new television, but it felt even better to say good-bye to another credit card.
I didn’t seek help
Like an alcoholic, I hid my habit. Maybe “hid” is too strong a word, but because Kris and keep separate finances I was able to hide my debt problem from her. (This is one of the drawbacks to such a system — there are drawbacks to joint finances, too.)
I knew I had a spending problem. I knew it intellectually, and I could feel it in my gut every time I bought something with a credit card. But knowing you have a problem and doing something about it are two very different things.
About five years ago, a friend heard me complaining about my situation. He didn’t scold me. He didn’t moralize. He just gave me a book (the aforementioned Your Money or Your Life) and suggested I read it. I was lucky. Though I didn’t seek help, help eventually found me. I could have saved thousands — tens of thousands! — by admitting I had a problem early on.
(Debtors anonymous was made for people like me.)
The final secret
The biggest secret of debt reduction? Getting rid of it feels awesome. After living in debt for twenty years, I’ve spent about eight months debt-free. The sense of freedom is euphoric at times. Psychologically, I’m a new man.
The thing is, most advice about getting rid of debt is purely theoretical. It’s written by pros in suits who think that debt is all about crunching numbers. It’s not. If smart money management were just about math, everyone would be rich.
But smart money management is mostly mental. It took me a long time to learn that. Once I figured that out, I felt okay ignoring the advice from the “experts”. I learned to play mental tricks on myself. That’s what helped me get out of debt.
Thanks to Leo at Zen Habits for the original idea for this article. It was intended be a guest post at his site while he was on his honeymoon, but I didn’t get it pulled together in time. Instead, I contributed a “best of GRS” article: How I paid off $35,000 in debt, and how you can too. Photo by Dan Esparza.
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Others have debated the debt snowball and paying off the smaller debts first versus the optimal payment. What folks often forget, and what mimms mentioned above, is that most people in serious debt don’t have two or three debts as Chris’s example gave, they can often have six to ten (e.g. two Visas, a Mastercard, a Discovery card, two department store cards, a car loan, student loans, personal loan, or any combination or multiples of the above). These folks aren’t just getting hammered because of the debt, they’re getting hammered because of the late fees and feelings of being buried and harrassed because just as a check for one debt leaves they get two more bills in the mail. They can’t help but feel they’re bailing out the Titanic. So if they can knock out a third of those debts in a year, the pressure begins to ease and they can feel the progress and start really looking beyond the debt to other options. Even one less nagging bill under these conditions can make a difference.
@ Finn Grim determination typically comes along when you’ve hit rock bottom. But even then, you have to make a workable plan, execute it, and see real progress. If you aren’t going to see a debt significantly reduced for a year, it’s going to be really hard to maintain that determination, especially if you’ve got a spouse and kids and society pressuring you otherwise. Gaining those victories, at minimal real costs (say 5% of total debt over a two to three year payoff period) can make a positive change in many people, it can grudgingly win over a spouse skeptical of the method, it can be used to show the kids “one down, five to go”. There will always be those who stop moving once the dangling carrot is removed, never recognizing it was only there to get them going in the first place. However, many others like the momentum they build up, and do make permanent changes.
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I would really like to see a post on the pros and cons of web-based financial tools and then a comparison of the four you mentioned in this post. I can’t wait to read user experiences too. From my quick glance, I am not sure they would work to my satisfaction.
Thanks!
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Kudos on another great post, JD! This one I’m sending to both my daughters and my mom.
As has already been said, once you hit rock bottom or get “tired of being tired of it”, you finally figure out how to make a plan. It doesn’t matter how you do it, what method you use, you just have to do it. It is all a mental process, anyway. Just do it.
For me, the “mathi-ness” above made my eyes glaze over. If that was all I was ever presented with I’d probably still be in debt
so I’m thankful for something like a “debt snowball”. We’re no longer in debt because of it, well on our way to a six month emergency fund, and for the first time in my ENTIRE LIFE, I look forward to paying the bills come to the house. I love knowing exactly how much money I have, (thanks to rudimentary excel skills) where it is being spent and thinking every month about how to save even more money.
We could argue all day long (hmmm, like those folks in DC) about the best way to do something…and end up doing nothing. If you’re a lurker and still confused, just go back and re-read JD’s post. Then, just do it!
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As someone who paid off $55,500 in debt (over the course of 12 and a half mos.) using the snow-ball method, I loved this post. We had 8 debts with interest rates that ranged from 0% to 21% (the smallest debt happen to carry the 21% rate). We paid off 7 of our debts in 6 mos. and then worked, slow and steady, on the big debt – my husband’s MBA loan. My husband was in favor of paying off the debt by interest rate but since I was doing the heavy lifting I won out in the end. But you should do what works for you.
I would also add, stop keeping up with the Joneses to this post. 90% of the Joneses you are trying to keep up with are broke or in debt.
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I love your blog! It amazes me how DH and I were just living our lives, charging up a storm and had no plan for our money, (I’m sure like a lot of other people). We did the Dave Ramsey Financial Peace Class and our lives have been changed! We have been doing the debt snowball plan for a little over a year with probably 2 more to go. I love reading your blog because it encourages me and helps me to stay focused. Keep it up!
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I paid off my debt in the order of highest interest rate, and it worked. BUT…it was a long, slow haul with very little motivation than seeing my balances start to decrease. Many people do not have the discipline to stick out that long, slow process. If the debt snowball method gives them the motivation (probably a dopamine rush) to keep going and find more ways to save, then it’s a great method!
It works, and that’s all that matters. As JD and others have pointed out…a 5% premium or whatever amount it may be DOES NOT MATTER when compared to never paying off the debt at all.
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Poor family upbringing has noting to do with not having proper money skill.
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I don’t understand Chris’ hatred of the snowball method. Being an engineer makes me like optimum designs and solutions. However, being married to a counselor makes me take the “human factor” into account.
Even with only slightly modifying the numbers Chris gave for the example (using $55 for the $2500 balance so you pay the interest plus a little when you get started), the advantage to doing it the “optimum” way mathematically is less than $300 over 24 months. With the snowball method, the smaller debt is paid off in 14 months, 6 months sooner than the large debt would be paid off in the “optimum” scenario. This sooner gratification is more likely to keep people going after their debt instead of just giving up.
In 6 months, the snowball method has one debt below $900 and falling fast whereas the “optimum” method leaves you with ~$1485 and ~$1835 still left in balances. I can see where some people would get frustrated with the optimum method and feel like they’re not getting any traction. If people in debt were good with delayed gratification, they wouldn’t have been in debt to begin with (in most circumstances).
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I’d have to also agree with people who say your family history does not necessarily dictate how you’ll handle money. It does have an influence, but I’m a great example of how it sometimes has no correlation at all.
Neither of my parents know how to handle money well at all, and they never talked to me about money either. I had no other family members who taught me either. But I had a budget at age 15 when I had my first real job. I don’t recall reading about budgets anywhere. It just occurred to me that I have so much money coming in and I needed to figure out where it would be spent so I wouldn’t run out. I’m not bragging on myself, because I didn’t necessarily use the money well. But I did understand the concept of a budget without actually being taught by anyone.
I’m not sure what it means, but I think it’s interesting that some people are just built to handle money better.
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Sorry, JD, I think the comments are more interesting than your post.
The funny thing about human psychology is that we all have different ways of getting our rocks off. For some, seeing the # of credit lines diminish is more important than seeing the total amount diminish. And for others tracking the total amount (thus going higher interest first) is key.
For me, not paying any more interest was the most important thing. So I took a small hit to my credit rating and opened a couple of new accounts for the 0% balance transfer. I also took advantage of a no-fee transfer on an empty card. Then I could tackle it as a whole. I also had a set deadline (ie, when the rates would expire) for each card, which helped figure out how much I could pay. But I’m also a statistician….
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LOL! Like anything else, do what works for you.
– If you are dealing with a lot of negative emotions around your finances and debts and don’t do a lot of math around your finances (where a lot of people are when they start — no judgment here!), the snowball is great, because it gives a lot of positive emotional payoffs. If there are a lot of small accounts, those positive payoffs come regularly. Kinda like getting gold stars for good behavior on a regular basis.
– If you have a solid and relatively objective view of your finances, have only a few accounts, and enjoy dealing with financial math, then doing payoffs “the smart way” to minimize interest payments can work well. Every month, you can calculate the interest saved and give yourself kudos that way for being so smart.
Depends what you need, eh?
As a side comment regarding “gazingus pins” in YMOYL parlance (compulsive spending blind spots, like JD’s comics): I just went to the library and came out with an armload of books and a CD for free, most of which I won’t get around to reading, or will lose interest in. I used to BUY those items — DH and I couldn’t leave any bookstore or Costco for less than $50/trip for movies, music, and books. That was nearly 15 years ago, so double that $$ if we were to do that now. But books are good to spend money on, right? Well, after several moves, dumping books, DVDs and CDs at libraries as we went, we figured out that we don’t need to OWN all those books. (Duh.) We keep being tempted, though . . .
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I want to follow up about being poor and having no money skills. I grew up with a German mother & Dutch father, both of whom went through the Depression. My father became a farmer after WWII. We had NOTHING….except fresh veggies from the garden, fresh milk from the cows my father milked, fresh meat and eggs from the pigs, cattle and chickens we raised. But more importantly we were taught to be thrifty using things over and over and saving things and money…values lost on most of us today.
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Your post struck a chord with me, espicially the part about not getting help and relating it to alcoholism.
Very true.
In both cases, the first step is denial, I told myself that I didn’t have a problem. BOY WAS I WRONG !
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I already shared above that I’ve decided to buckle down and pay off my school loans. Does anyone know if I can do a balance transfer to a 0% card for that? I’ve never investigated the balance transfer industry.
I used to have a thing for cookbooks. I realized I was trying to buy myself a lifestyle full of classy dinner parties, that I would host with expert ease in my lovely apartment. Somehow that never materialized! But instead I got a job in a library and got to buy awesome cookbooks with OTHER people’s money
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So here is my issue… I spend way too much $$$. It drives me nuts, I see a gadget I just must have and I buy it, without thinking about anything else… I love this blog, and would definitely appreciate some advice.
I don’t have any debt… I use my AMEX for everything and pay off 100% when the bill arrives. However my stupid spending skills have stopped me from getting what I really want.. A home purchase. I keep trying to put money aside but I am addicted to shopping.. I buy stupid stuff that I have every intention of using, but then just don’t.. Not sure if this is the right forum for my issue but any advice would be welcomed.
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Bruce:
I would suggest looking into auto-transfers. Either AMEX or your bank should be able to automatically transfer a set amount per month to a “house downpayment” account. Since you are using the AMEX card so much, I would go with that one.
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@Bruce,
Well you just took the “first step”…you admitted you have a problem.
How many times have you put yourself on a budget and paid yourself first? Had a plan?
How many times have you sat down and done a spreadsheet to peer into the future to see what you would have if you didn’t spend X on this and Y on that and instead put all of that money into a high yield savings account (like INGdirect at 3% or another one to your liking) instead.
I’m 55 and have only just done the above in the past 12 months. If you are younger than I, then please think about that plan THIS WEEKEND.
When I sat down and did this back in the spring (really made the “This is how much money I want in the bank” plan by the end of 2008, end of 2009, etc., I REALLY got focused. It is driving my husband CRAZY!!!
Do you have an emergency fund? If not, have a garage sale (or put it on Craig’s list) next weekend or sometime soon.
Best of luck to you.
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Articles like this are why I read your site everyday. I’m nowhere near the place to think about investing etc. I’m in debt, have a spending problem that I’ve been struggling with for years and your site gives me hope that I have not completly failed as a human being. Thank You.
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@Bruce
Check out http://www.thesimpledollar.com today. (I hope JD doesn’t mind me throwing that out..I know they refer to each other’s blogs all the time.)
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The dirty secret is that people don’t get in over their heads because they borrow money, they get in over their heads by how they spend money. Debt is just another cost. You shouldn’t buy more of it than you can afford.
Most people understand this when they borrow to buy a house or car. They ask themselves whether they can afford the payments. They decide whether those payments fit into their budget (whether that’s a seat-of-the-pants budget or a carefully crafted financial plan).
The problem with credit card debt is that people use it without any real idea of what it will cost. They rely on their credit limit to determine whether they can afford it, without evaluating whether they can actually make the payments on that much debt. In many cases, they can’t.
The real crisis comes when people start using credit to make payments on the credit they can’t afford. That is essentially what happened with the folks that kept refinancing their houses, taking out equity to make the payments. That is what happens with credit card debt when people start buying everyday necessities on credit because they already have more debt than they can afford.
The starting point for managing debt is to decide how much credit you can afford. Once you know what that number is you will be a lot more likely to spend it wisely. If you decide that number is zero, fine. But for most people, wise use of credit will allow them to live richer, fuller lives.
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JD, wonderful post!!!!! I am struggling with solvency while I stillllllllll don’t have a job; heavy looking, much actions in all kinds of directions.
I am using cash. Paid off the IRS. Thanks
G-d. Clean/sober many years.
Keep doing the next right action and posting on your magnificent board. ODAT.
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“Because I’d grown up in a poor family, I had no notion of proper money skills. ”
This sounds a bit odd to me also. I grew up in a financially tight family, and it *taught* me the value of money. Now I have an OK job, but I still demand value and look for deals (and read this website!)
Aside from that, this is a GREAT article. I don’t have debt yet (hello Mr. Mortgage!) but I’ve forwarded this on to a few friends who are in a similar situation.
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I wish I was reading blogs like this a few years ago. I wouldnt be in the shit I am now, owing more than $1,200,000 to friends, family and banks. I would know all the right steps, I would get motivated and inspired… Now all I have left is a site called http://www.savemefromshit.com, which is more an example of what to avoid in life, rather than a cry for help…
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