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	<title>Comments on: Stale Checks: How Long Can Someone Wait to Deposit a Check?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-321901</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop crying Rebekah you owe the money. Just pay it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop crying Rebekah you owe the money. Just pay it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I wrote a check for a vehicle costing $700.00 April 2009. We keep asking the seller to cash the check for months. She already put the title in my husbands name and gave us the paperwork from where she sold us the vehicle. She told us on more than 1 occassion that she had misplaced the check and wasn't worried about cashing it. We left the money in the account until the end of the year, well over 6 months, because I thought GA had a 6 month cashing law. Well I guess my mistake was listening to her. On March 2 2010 my credit union cashed the check. We have overdraft protections so it cost only $3 bucks to cover the check. It just upsets me that a bank will allow a person to person check to be cashed after almost a year later. I have no issues paying for the vehicle. We bought and agreed upon a price. I feel my bank should have denied the check and adviced the seller to get in contact with me to reissue her a current check. Way to look out for the clients. We pay for the banking services. I feel they shafted me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I wrote a check for a vehicle costing $700.00 April 2009. We keep asking the seller to cash the check for months. She already put the title in my husbands name and gave us the paperwork from where she sold us the vehicle. She told us on more than 1 occassion that she had misplaced the check and wasn&#8217;t worried about cashing it. We left the money in the account until the end of the year, well over 6 months, because I thought GA had a 6 month cashing law. Well I guess my mistake was listening to her. On March 2 2010 my credit union cashed the check. We have overdraft protections so it cost only $3 bucks to cover the check. It just upsets me that a bank will allow a person to person check to be cashed after almost a year later. I have no issues paying for the vehicle. We bought and agreed upon a price. I feel my bank should have denied the check and adviced the seller to get in contact with me to reissue her a current check. Way to look out for the clients. We pay for the banking services. I feel they shafted me.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVE USA</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-215545</link>
		<dc:creator>DAVE USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you all have it wrong... The bank WILL cash a stale check on purpose because they can make that overdraft money off of your mistake. They need to write laws eliminating excessive overdraft fees. 2 bucks or maybe even 5 bucks tops. not 37 bucks. Greedy Turds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you all have it wrong&#8230; The bank WILL cash a stale check on purpose because they can make that overdraft money off of your mistake. They need to write laws eliminating excessive overdraft fees. 2 bucks or maybe even 5 bucks tops. not 37 bucks. Greedy Turds!</p>
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		<title>By: VicD</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-198518</link>
		<dc:creator>VicD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I mostly use check cards to pay for things, or take cash out from the ATM. (No transaction register) We don't write too many checks. (maybe 3 or 4 per month) When we do write them, we don't even use the checkbook register. We just use duplicates (carbonless copies, in case we need to refer back to the check's information) and keep at least a $200 to $1,000 "buffer" in our account.  When the bank statement comes in, we review it to ensure there are no unauthorized charges and that we still have a comfortable "buffer." But I am just sharing our care-free banking habits, NOT giving advice!!!

And yes, I do misplace other people's checks at times. Sometimes it takes me weeks, or even months to stumble across them. (Because I forget about looking for the check.) There must be many people out there with the same level of ADD that I have (we just haven't been medically diagnosed with it.) So, bottom line: If you are worried about how long it's going to take me to deposit your check, GIVE ME CASH. 
I just gave back to my sister a check that she wrote me for $60 about 3 weeks before. (I know she is the kind to worry about when it will be deposited.) When she told me she didn't have cash in her house, I said: "I'd rather wait for cash, than have to go to the bank to deposit a check that I've misplaced." So I can wait for my next visit to her in another 3 weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I mostly use check cards to pay for things, or take cash out from the ATM. (No transaction register) We don&#8217;t write too many checks. (maybe 3 or 4 per month) When we do write them, we don&#8217;t even use the checkbook register. We just use duplicates (carbonless copies, in case we need to refer back to the check&#8217;s information) and keep at least a $200 to $1,000 &#8220;buffer&#8221; in our account.  When the bank statement comes in, we review it to ensure there are no unauthorized charges and that we still have a comfortable &#8220;buffer.&#8221; But I am just sharing our care-free banking habits, NOT giving advice!!!</p>
<p>And yes, I do misplace other people&#8217;s checks at times. Sometimes it takes me weeks, or even months to stumble across them. (Because I forget about looking for the check.) There must be many people out there with the same level of ADD that I have (we just haven&#8217;t been medically diagnosed with it.) So, bottom line: If you are worried about how long it&#8217;s going to take me to deposit your check, GIVE ME CASH.<br />
I just gave back to my sister a check that she wrote me for $60 about 3 weeks before. (I know she is the kind to worry about when it will be deposited.) When she told me she didn&#8217;t have cash in her house, I said: &#8220;I&#8217;d rather wait for cash, than have to go to the bank to deposit a check that I&#8217;ve misplaced.&#8221; So I can wait for my next visit to her in another 3 weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Dorrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison Dorrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I read most of your comments and they are very interesting, I am sure that many of you will find mine compelling too.
What happened to me is I had won my settlement case against an old employer. I was awarded the money but I had moved by the time the check was distributed to me. Well when the check was distributed to me it was sent to my home address which had to be sent out to my school address where I live now. So months went by and I never received it, however one day I opened my mail box(this was in february 2009)and lo and behold the check was there. I open it and it had expired in Dec. 2008. The envelope was postmarked on Nov. 18th  2008. So at that point I had asked for a reissuing of the check. fine. so  they tell me the date that it is estimated to go out, and to call them on the date that it was "supposed" to go out. I call them, "the check is estimated to go out on the 3rd", call us on that date. So I call them on the 3rd of March, "the check is estimated to go out on the 13th, call us on the 13th of March, I call them, same response, call us back on another date, I call them still the same bull. 

Well, I didn't know what to do, i have bills to pay, things that need to be done, so i deposited the check.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I read most of your comments and they are very interesting, I am sure that many of you will find mine compelling too.<br />
What happened to me is I had won my settlement case against an old employer. I was awarded the money but I had moved by the time the check was distributed to me. Well when the check was distributed to me it was sent to my home address which had to be sent out to my school address where I live now. So months went by and I never received it, however one day I opened my mail box(this was in february 2009)and lo and behold the check was there. I open it and it had expired in Dec. 2008. The envelope was postmarked on Nov. 18th  2008. So at that point I had asked for a reissuing of the check. fine. so  they tell me the date that it is estimated to go out, and to call them on the date that it was &#8220;supposed&#8221; to go out. I call them, &#8220;the check is estimated to go out on the 3rd&#8221;, call us on that date. So I call them on the 3rd of March, &#8220;the check is estimated to go out on the 13th, call us on the 13th of March, I call them, same response, call us back on another date, I call them still the same bull. </p>
<p>Well, I didn&#8217;t know what to do, i have bills to pay, things that need to be done, so i deposited the check.!</p>
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		<title>By: TC Jax</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC Jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 2 personal checks from a guy who owed me money($4000) these checks are coming up on 4 years old now. I have gone to the bank several times to cash it, but he never has the funds, for a year after he gave me the checks. I put them in a lock box and kind of forgot to try to cash them. I have tried and tried to contact thi guy at his house and his business, but I keep getting the run around. Should I take the checks back to the bank to try to cash them? At this point, I would like him to get hit with a bounced check fee though it's nothing compared to the $4k I forked over to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 2 personal checks from a guy who owed me money($4000) these checks are coming up on 4 years old now. I have gone to the bank several times to cash it, but he never has the funds, for a year after he gave me the checks. I put them in a lock box and kind of forgot to try to cash them. I have tried and tried to contact thi guy at his house and his business, but I keep getting the run around. Should I take the checks back to the bank to try to cash them? At this point, I would like him to get hit with a bounced check fee though it&#8217;s nothing compared to the $4k I forked over to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-156799</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if a check is nearly 30 years old and the account has been closed for nearly 20 years ? Is there any liability on the check writers part?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if a check is nearly 30 years old and the account has been closed for nearly 20 years ? Is there any liability on the check writers part?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-145123</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, does this bring back memories.  I moved from the states 11 years ago, to the Netherlands.  For the first couple of years I lived here, we had things called 'Euro-Checks' denominated in the local currency.  Basically, your bank provided you with ten of them, pre-printed, looked like travelers checks, actually, engraved, etc., and you could write them, up to 300 NLG (I think it was), in any EU country.  

Since we've converted to the Euro, cheques are a thing of the past.  Everything is done electronically.  There are no cheques.

The looks I get, from the local bank, when I insist on a real 'cheque', to send to the states, is priceless.  Then, to note that I have to pay 40 Euros for the privilege, no matter what the amount. 

In any event, here, practically everything is done electronically.  Even things like paying for a bus fare, or parking, is done by your 'Chip' card.  Groceries, etc., are done via your PIN card.

Even better, all your transactions are online, almost immediately.  And you can transfer funds around, free, whenever you want.

I think I like our system here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, does this bring back memories.  I moved from the states 11 years ago, to the Netherlands.  For the first couple of years I lived here, we had things called &#8216;Euro-Checks&#8217; denominated in the local currency.  Basically, your bank provided you with ten of them, pre-printed, looked like travelers checks, actually, engraved, etc., and you could write them, up to 300 NLG (I think it was), in any EU country.  </p>
<p>Since we&#8217;ve converted to the Euro, cheques are a thing of the past.  Everything is done electronically.  There are no cheques.</p>
<p>The looks I get, from the local bank, when I insist on a real &#8216;cheque&#8217;, to send to the states, is priceless.  Then, to note that I have to pay 40 Euros for the privilege, no matter what the amount. </p>
<p>In any event, here, practically everything is done electronically.  Even things like paying for a bus fare, or parking, is done by your &#8216;Chip&#8217; card.  Groceries, etc., are done via your PIN card.</p>
<p>Even better, all your transactions are online, almost immediately.  And you can transfer funds around, free, whenever you want.</p>
<p>I think I like our system here.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-143970</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here because I tried to cash a dividend check from 2006 that said void after 6 months. It was only $10 and I found it in my files as I was packing for a move. I looked online and found some advice that said the 6 months deal  is not enforceable. When I took it to the local BB&amp;T today, not only did the teller tell me that the check wasn't cashable, but she confiscated the check and told me they "have to shred it."
I was puzzled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here because I tried to cash a dividend check from 2006 that said void after 6 months. It was only $10 and I found it in my files as I was packing for a move. I looked online and found some advice that said the 6 months deal  is not enforceable. When I took it to the local BB&amp;T today, not only did the teller tell me that the check wasn&#8217;t cashable, but she confiscated the check and told me they &#8220;have to shred it.&#8221;<br />
I was puzzled.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the delay in posting...I'm catching up on my RSS reading.

I work at a bank.  If a customer writes a check to someone and it is cashed, lets say 4 months later, all my bank will get is a transaction from our processor which removes the funds from your account at our institution.  We don't get any other detail, so thus any questions the customer has will have to be aimed at the bank of first deposit (the bank of the individual that cashed the check).

If you wrote a check and it has not cleared, don't "bank" on your institution to catch a 12 month old check.  If it has not been cashed, do your due diligence and contact the recipient of the item.  If they lost it, the only sure-fire way to make sure it doesn't clear is to issue a stop-pay on that item (and incur the bank's stop-pay charge).  Not worth $25 to stop $50...unless you're always near Zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the delay in posting&#8230;I&#8217;m catching up on my RSS reading.</p>
<p>I work at a bank.  If a customer writes a check to someone and it is cashed, lets say 4 months later, all my bank will get is a transaction from our processor which removes the funds from your account at our institution.  We don&#8217;t get any other detail, so thus any questions the customer has will have to be aimed at the bank of first deposit (the bank of the individual that cashed the check).</p>
<p>If you wrote a check and it has not cleared, don&#8217;t &#8220;bank&#8221; on your institution to catch a 12 month old check.  If it has not been cashed, do your due diligence and contact the recipient of the item.  If they lost it, the only sure-fire way to make sure it doesn&#8217;t clear is to issue a stop-pay on that item (and incur the bank&#8217;s stop-pay charge).  Not worth $25 to stop $50&#8230;unless you&#8217;re always near Zero.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-142447</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The basic truth is that the protection provided by stale dates (over six months old) or "void" messages relies almost completely on the teller.  He or she has the right to not process the check.  However, if the teller misses it or it gets deposited by some other method, 99% of the time the check will clear (assuming there is money to cover it, of course) because the bank's proof department relies only on the MICR line, not messages printed on the face of the check.  The only exception is that some banks (BofA, for example) offer stale-date protection to large business clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic truth is that the protection provided by stale dates (over six months old) or &#8220;void&#8221; messages relies almost completely on the teller.  He or she has the right to not process the check.  However, if the teller misses it or it gets deposited by some other method, 99% of the time the check will clear (assuming there is money to cover it, of course) because the bank&#8217;s proof department relies only on the MICR line, not messages printed on the face of the check.  The only exception is that some banks (BofA, for example) offer stale-date protection to large business clients.</p>
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		<title>By: craig resnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig resnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got dinged an overdraft charge of $25 by
Bank of America which cashed a business check written 
more than three years ago with "void after 90 days" printed above my signature.
The business had been closed for more than two 
years, but the account had not been closed because the bank convinced me to wait, just in 
case I might still need the account to settle 
accountant and legal fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got dinged an overdraft charge of $25 by<br />
Bank of America which cashed a business check written<br />
more than three years ago with &#8220;void after 90 days&#8221; printed above my signature.<br />
The business had been closed for more than two<br />
years, but the account had not been closed because the bank convinced me to wait, just in<br />
case I might still need the account to settle<br />
accountant and legal fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Desiree Dies</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-142129</link>
		<dc:creator>Desiree Dies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the school sent me a refund check for paying my tuition for about $200.  Since I was switching universities I didn't get this mail until I visited my parents (6 months to 1 year later).  By the time I tried to cash the check I got charged $40 because the University closed that account....WTF!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the school sent me a refund check for paying my tuition for about $200.  Since I was switching universities I didn&#8217;t get this mail until I visited my parents (6 months to 1 year later).  By the time I tried to cash the check I got charged $40 because the University closed that account&#8230;.WTF!?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know how ppl could hold a check for months  until they feel it's ok to clear the check.. there are alot of ppl out there relying on u to atleast clear/deposit the check w/in the week. yes, ppl record their finances, but there's not many of them. if a check has not clear'd w/in a month. ppl should call their bank and place a stop payment on the check and inquiry if there's a fee. also, contact the person who u wrote the check to..wouldn't that make sense instead of wondering if it will ever clear your acct.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how ppl could hold a check for months  until they feel it&#8217;s ok to clear the check.. there are alot of ppl out there relying on u to atleast clear/deposit the check w/in the week. yes, ppl record their finances, but there&#8217;s not many of them. if a check has not clear&#8217;d w/in a month. ppl should call their bank and place a stop payment on the check and inquiry if there&#8217;s a fee. also, contact the person who u wrote the check to..wouldn&#8217;t that make sense instead of wondering if it will ever clear your acct.?</p>
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		<title>By: LM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one time my dad wrote a $1100  check to my university, and they never cashed it. that was probably good because it would have bounced anyway. 

this was, oh, six or seven years ago.

I am now much better with money than my father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one time my dad wrote a $1100  check to my university, and they never cashed it. that was probably good because it would have bounced anyway. </p>
<p>this was, oh, six or seven years ago.</p>
<p>I am now much better with money than my father.</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141812</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question.
My father belongs to a club that had Norman Rockwell as a member back in the '70s. Club dues were $5.00/year. My father said that the treasurer at the time didn't cash Rockwell's check as the signature was or would be worth more than the face value. He died a year or so later. Would this uncashed check be an issue for the attorney during probate? I wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question.<br />
My father belongs to a club that had Norman Rockwell as a member back in the &#8217;70s. Club dues were $5.00/year. My father said that the treasurer at the time didn&#8217;t cash Rockwell&#8217;s check as the signature was or would be worth more than the face value. He died a year or so later. Would this uncashed check be an issue for the attorney during probate? I wonder.</p>
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		<title>By: Tripledee</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141692</link>
		<dc:creator>Tripledee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny about money:

Most employers use what's called a controlled disbursement account for paychecks - that is, it's an account that starts the day at $0, goes negative throughout the day as checks are cashed and then at night, when the daily bank reconciling is done, the customer has an automatic sweep transfer that transfers the negative balance in the controlled disbursement account from a positive balance operating (or something like it) account. 

It allows companies to keep funds in their interest bearing accounts for as long as possible. Of course, there's a fee for a controlled disbursement account, but it also makes it easier for a company to reconcile because they know to the penny how much of those checks were cashed each day. Also, if you have $500,000 worth of payroll per week but only $250k gets cashed, you can still sit on the $250k in your savings (e.g. money market or investments) account. Of course, $250k can be chump change to a business, but when every penny counts, it makes a difference. (A controlled disbursement account is usually offered as part of a cash management suite of products from a bank - with the cont dsb account comes other perks - higher balances = better rates, larger lending facility, etc.) 

As far as stale dated, post dated, depositing checks a month or two or three or  eighteen months later - banks don't have the time or manpower to research the items on every check. If a check is post dated and it's over a certain amount, usually there's a department that will call the payer of the check and see if they want it paid. The check could be returned or paid, based on the customer's discretion. But there is a threshold - if you post date a $25 check, NO ONE at any bank is going to look at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny about money:</p>
<p>Most employers use what&#8217;s called a controlled disbursement account for paychecks - that is, it&#8217;s an account that starts the day at $0, goes negative throughout the day as checks are cashed and then at night, when the daily bank reconciling is done, the customer has an automatic sweep transfer that transfers the negative balance in the controlled disbursement account from a positive balance operating (or something like it) account. </p>
<p>It allows companies to keep funds in their interest bearing accounts for as long as possible. Of course, there&#8217;s a fee for a controlled disbursement account, but it also makes it easier for a company to reconcile because they know to the penny how much of those checks were cashed each day. Also, if you have $500,000 worth of payroll per week but only $250k gets cashed, you can still sit on the $250k in your savings (e.g. money market or investments) account. Of course, $250k can be chump change to a business, but when every penny counts, it makes a difference. (A controlled disbursement account is usually offered as part of a cash management suite of products from a bank - with the cont dsb account comes other perks - higher balances = better rates, larger lending facility, etc.) </p>
<p>As far as stale dated, post dated, depositing checks a month or two or three or  eighteen months later - banks don&#8217;t have the time or manpower to research the items on every check. If a check is post dated and it&#8217;s over a certain amount, usually there&#8217;s a department that will call the payer of the check and see if they want it paid. The check could be returned or paid, based on the customer&#8217;s discretion. But there is a threshold - if you post date a $25 check, NO ONE at any bank is going to look at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Funny about Money</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141672</link>
		<dc:creator>Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens when an employee doesn't cash paychecks? Recently I discovered one of my assistants has let weeks' worth of paychecks accumulate in her desk drawer. We've had a slow period and she thinks if she's not working every minute, she shouldn't be collecting pay from the university. Her job ends on the 31st, and it looks suspiciously as though she'll never cash the checks. 

Does that or does it not gum up the works for the gigantic employer's accountants? And what happens when the university reports  to the IRS that it's paid her $NNNN.nn? Does she have to pay taxes on paychecks that she earned but never cashed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens when an employee doesn&#8217;t cash paychecks? Recently I discovered one of my assistants has let weeks&#8217; worth of paychecks accumulate in her desk drawer. We&#8217;ve had a slow period and she thinks if she&#8217;s not working every minute, she shouldn&#8217;t be collecting pay from the university. Her job ends on the 31st, and it looks suspiciously as though she&#8217;ll never cash the checks. </p>
<p>Does that or does it not gum up the works for the gigantic employer&#8217;s accountants? And what happens when the university reports  to the IRS that it&#8217;s paid her $NNNN.nn? Does she have to pay taxes on paychecks that she earned but never cashed?</p>
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		<title>By: MattJ</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141638</link>
		<dc:creator>MattJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I don't understand the attitude, here.  If you provide me a service and I write you a check in exchange, then when I notice that you haven't cashed it after a while I'm going to contact you and find out what's wrong.  If you've lost the check, then I'll cancel it and find another way to pay you.

People like Paul's friend really didn't notice that their babysitter wasn't cashing their checks?  Really?  Did they think the babysitter was working for free?  I wouldn't have waited until writing the second check before asking her to start cashing them or arranging to pay her some other way.  She certainly would not ever had to take me to court in order to get her money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I don&#8217;t understand the attitude, here.  If you provide me a service and I write you a check in exchange, then when I notice that you haven&#8217;t cashed it after a while I&#8217;m going to contact you and find out what&#8217;s wrong.  If you&#8217;ve lost the check, then I&#8217;ll cancel it and find another way to pay you.</p>
<p>People like Paul&#8217;s friend really didn&#8217;t notice that their babysitter wasn&#8217;t cashing their checks?  Really?  Did they think the babysitter was working for free?  I wouldn&#8217;t have waited until writing the second check before asking her to start cashing them or arranging to pay her some other way.  She certainly would not ever had to take me to court in order to get her money&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shalom</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141605</link>
		<dc:creator>Shalom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re "Void after 90 days"-type wording on personal checks

Hi, I'm another commercial lawyer weighing in here.  The UCC doesn't specifically address what happens when you write things like "void after 90 days"(these phrases are called "restrictive legends") on checks. If a bank didn't tell you that it won't comply with restrictive legends, under the UCC (as implemented by that bank's particular state) it would be obligated to comply with them.

But of course banks don't want to have to look for restrictive legends on every check they get, and they don't want to be liable for not complying with restrictive legends. So, they pretty much always have a statement in their terms &amp; conditions for checking accounts, that says that they don't have to pay attention to restrictive legends.  

A big customer like a public corporation or a rebate processing service may negotiate different terms and conditions for their checking account, so that the bank may agree to honor their restrictive legends.  But a individual with a personal account almost surely won't have that kind of power with a bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;Void after 90 days&#8221;-type wording on personal checks</p>
<p>Hi, I&#8217;m another commercial lawyer weighing in here.  The UCC doesn&#8217;t specifically address what happens when you write things like &#8220;void after 90 days&#8221;(these phrases are called &#8220;restrictive legends&#8221;) on checks. If a bank didn&#8217;t tell you that it won&#8217;t comply with restrictive legends, under the UCC (as implemented by that bank&#8217;s particular state) it would be obligated to comply with them.</p>
<p>But of course banks don&#8217;t want to have to look for restrictive legends on every check they get, and they don&#8217;t want to be liable for not complying with restrictive legends. So, they pretty much always have a statement in their terms &#038; conditions for checking accounts, that says that they don&#8217;t have to pay attention to restrictive legends.  </p>
<p>A big customer like a public corporation or a rebate processing service may negotiate different terms and conditions for their checking account, so that the bank may agree to honor their restrictive legends.  But a individual with a personal account almost surely won&#8217;t have that kind of power with a bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Jib</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried to stop using checks if at all possible. Currently I only write 1 check a month. And that is for my rent. I could probably set that up in bill pay with everything else, but just havent gotten around to it.

With bill pay or debit card (or cash) you dont have to wait long at all for the money to come out of your account. Much easier this way.

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&lt;a href="http://austinhikeandbike.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Austin Hike and Bike&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried to stop using checks if at all possible. Currently I only write 1 check a month. And that is for my rent. I could probably set that up in bill pay with everything else, but just havent gotten around to it.</p>
<p>With bill pay or debit card (or cash) you dont have to wait long at all for the money to come out of your account. Much easier this way.</p>
<p>&#8212;-<br />
<a href="http://austinhikeandbike.com" rel="nofollow">Austin Hike and Bike</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141583</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently decided to leave TD Banknorth because of their overdraft policy. They recently transferred money from my savings to my checking and charged me the $5.00 OD fee to cover an amount that was pending! With the surge in gas prices I have come across a number of gas stations that will apply a temporary hold of anywhere from $50 to $100. I happen to drive a hybrid, so we never put more than $38-$40 in the tank. So in this case, keeping a register wouldn't even matter, I'm getting penalized based on charges that won't ever go through my account.

I have subsequently left Banknorth for an awesome credit union that I used before I was married. I will never go back to a national/international bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently decided to leave TD Banknorth because of their overdraft policy. They recently transferred money from my savings to my checking and charged me the $5.00 OD fee to cover an amount that was pending! With the surge in gas prices I have come across a number of gas stations that will apply a temporary hold of anywhere from $50 to $100. I happen to drive a hybrid, so we never put more than $38-$40 in the tank. So in this case, keeping a register wouldn&#8217;t even matter, I&#8217;m getting penalized based on charges that won&#8217;t ever go through my account.</p>
<p>I have subsequently left Banknorth for an awesome credit union that I used before I was married. I will never go back to a national/international bank.</p>
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		<title>By: xysea</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141557</link>
		<dc:creator>xysea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose, Luke, that it would depend on what was going on in my life.  I don't actually deal with too many checks given to me.  I have a lot of electronic deposits, and checks to deposit are rather rare.

However, to me it shouldn't be an issue - if the person recorded in the register and deducted it from the balance, then it's accounted for.  If, at the end of the month it's still in the account when you reconcile your bank statement, why not follow up?  I mean, if it's that important to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose, Luke, that it would depend on what was going on in my life.  I don&#8217;t actually deal with too many checks given to me.  I have a lot of electronic deposits, and checks to deposit are rather rare.</p>
<p>However, to me it shouldn&#8217;t be an issue - if the person recorded in the register and deducted it from the balance, then it&#8217;s accounted for.  If, at the end of the month it&#8217;s still in the account when you reconcile your bank statement, why not follow up?  I mean, if it&#8217;s that important to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister E</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141525</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should have mentioned that I'm Canadian when I asked my question.  I'm reasonably certain that it works the same here though.

Thank you JD and others who chimed in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should have mentioned that I&#8217;m Canadian when I asked my question.  I&#8217;m reasonably certain that it works the same here though.</p>
<p>Thank you JD and others who chimed in.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141523</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard time understanding why you would wait months to cash a check.  I find that my normal errands, grocery shopping, hardware store, etc. take me past my bank at least once a week.  Also, if one of my own checks takes a while to clear I get annoyed, so I see it as a courtesy to someone that wrote me a check to cash it within a couple of weeks.  Would you be ok if every check you wrote got cashed a year later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time understanding why you would wait months to cash a check.  I find that my normal errands, grocery shopping, hardware store, etc. take me past my bank at least once a week.  Also, if one of my own checks takes a while to clear I get annoyed, so I see it as a courtesy to someone that wrote me a check to cash it within a couple of weeks.  Would you be ok if every check you wrote got cashed a year later?</p>
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		<title>By: Becky@FamilyandFinances</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141504</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky@FamilyandFinances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband had a situation similar to #31 (Michelle).  He wrote a check out to his mom for about $7000 to pay her back for a loan he had with her.  She cashed the check, but it never cleared through his account.  So, she had her $7000, but he still had his $7000, too!

Eventually, he called the bank about the check not going through.  They said there was nothing they could do about it and that the $7000 was free to spend.  This was over 5 years ago and nothing ever came of it.  My husband eventually made an extra mortgage payment with his "free" $7000.  He closed that checking account two years ago, so it's a done deal.

How cool is that?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband had a situation similar to #31 (Michelle).  He wrote a check out to his mom for about $7000 to pay her back for a loan he had with her.  She cashed the check, but it never cleared through his account.  So, she had her $7000, but he still had his $7000, too!</p>
<p>Eventually, he called the bank about the check not going through.  They said there was nothing they could do about it and that the $7000 was free to spend.  This was over 5 years ago and nothing ever came of it.  My husband eventually made an extra mortgage payment with his &#8220;free&#8221; $7000.  He closed that checking account two years ago, so it&#8217;s a done deal.</p>
<p>How cool is that?!?</p>
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		<title>By: xysea</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141502</link>
		<dc:creator>xysea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ Brandon

Well, it took me a long time to see the benefit of a check register.  After all, I never wrote many checks and I (before now) never had too much money that I couldn't quote you to the penny where all of it was or was going...

But since I've been doing better and I have a couple of accounts now, I keep the register religiously.

If I write it in the register the money is gone.  I don't care if they wait 1 or 10 months to cash it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ Brandon</p>
<p>Well, it took me a long time to see the benefit of a check register.  After all, I never wrote many checks and I (before now) never had too much money that I couldn&#8217;t quote you to the penny where all of it was or was going&#8230;</p>
<p>But since I&#8217;ve been doing better and I have a couple of accounts now, I keep the register religiously.</p>
<p>If I write it in the register the money is gone.  I don&#8217;t care if they wait 1 or 10 months to cash it.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141490</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same thing happens to me when I write checks to my parents for gifts or repayment of something.  They accept it but then never cash it.  And it's on purpose - I think it's because they don't want to take our money but it really screws up our record keeping!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same thing happens to me when I write checks to my parents for gifts or repayment of something.  They accept it but then never cash it.  And it&#8217;s on purpose - I think it&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t want to take our money but it really screws up our record keeping!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/07/23/stale-checks-how-long-can-someone-wait-to-deposit-a-check/#comment-141479</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That whole argument is nonsense if he’s recording it in the register.&lt;/i&gt;

That is a big assumption right there :)

I have sat on checks for a while in my life, and oddly I had a dream last night that I found a check from like the 1930s addressed to my great-grandmother or something and tried to find out if there was any way to cash it (though with inflation, the check itself might have been worth more historically than the amount on it lol).

I have also tried to take a check that had a date one year old on it (not a stale check, it was January and he wrote the wrong year on it) and the bank refused to take it. It was really annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That whole argument is nonsense if he’s recording it in the register.</i></p>
<p>That is a big assumption right there <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have sat on checks for a while in my life, and oddly I had a dream last night that I found a check from like the 1930s addressed to my great-grandmother or something and tried to find out if there was any way to cash it (though with inflation, the check itself might have been worth more historically than the amount on it lol).</p>
<p>I have also tried to take a check that had a date one year old on it (not a stale check, it was January and he wrote the wrong year on it) and the bank refused to take it. It was really annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one very strict policy with checks (when I do use them, which I try to avoid).  I warn the receiver (and write a note on the back of the check) that if it isn't in process of clearing out of my account in 30 days it's canceled.  So far I've had to follow through on this twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one very strict policy with checks (when I do use them, which I try to avoid).  I warn the receiver (and write a note on the back of the check) that if it isn&#8217;t in process of clearing out of my account in 30 days it&#8217;s canceled.  So far I&#8217;ve had to follow through on this twice.</p>
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