Are High Gas Prices Changing the Way We Drive?
Wednesday, 13th August 2008 (by J.D.)This article is about Cars, Choices, News
My friend Craig rides the bus to work every day. His family gets by with just one car. “Do you do it to save money?” I asked him recently.
“Well, owning just one car certainly does save money — car payments, gas, insurance, parking — and that’s a major reason I do it,” he said. “But I also do it because it helps the environment, and because it gives me a chance to unwind before I get home.”
Cheap transportation seems to be on everyone’s mind these days. High fuel prices and increased concern for the environment have spurred many of my friends and family to explore alternate methods of transportation. Even I have begun to look for ways to decrease my transportation costs — and I work from home!
Drive less, save more
Some people go even further than Craig to save money. When my friends Chris and Nicole visited Portland last month, they rented a vehicle to make the drive down from Seattle. “Don’t you own a car?” I asked.
“Yes,” Nicole said. “Sort of. We own an old beater, but I only use it to ferry my daughter around town. The rest of the time, I do car-sharing with Zipcar. Chris buys a monthly bus pass and uses that to commute.”
It was difficult for me to believe that these many small expenses actually saved them any money. “Is all of that cost-effective?” I asked.
“Absolutely,” Nicole said. “It’s a lot cheaper than owning and maintaining a new car.”
“Yes, it’s cheaper,” seems to be a common response when I speak with people who have cut back on driving.
Our friends Mike and Rhonda were once a two-car family. They owned a Toyota Forerunner and a Toyota Camry. A few years ago, they moved closer to Portland, sold both vehicles, and replaced them with a new Toyota Prius. Mike now bikes to work most days, and Rhonda drives the Prius. Their primary motivation was a desire to “go green”, but I recently asked Mike if the switch had saved them any money. “Oh yeah,” he said. “A lot!”
Finding ways to save
If driving less can save so much money, why aren’t more people aren’t doing it? Actually, there are signs that maybe they’re starting to. Here are some additional examples from my own life:
- Two of Kris’ co-workers have purchased “commuter cars”, old beaters with good gas mileage specifically for driving to and from work. I’m not sure how cost effective this is — buying an additional car instead of replacing an existing one? — but it’s the strategy they’ve chosen to deal with rising fuel prices.
- I’ve talked to several families who altered vacation plans this summer because of the high cost of fuel. My brother, Jeff, for example, stayed home while his wife and two children jetted to see her parents in Canada. “We couldn’t justify the expense of another ticket,” he told me.
- At the gym recently, two of the guys were talking about their next car purchases as they lifted weights. They both drive SUVs, but they plan to give them up. “I don’t understand why anyone would buy anything but a Prius,” one of the guys said. “That’s what I plan to buy” said the other.
- My youngest brother, Tony, drives a Chevy Silverado pickup truck. He too has begun to consider alternative transportation. “Gas is so expensive,” he told me over dinner the other night. “Biking would save a lot of money. But it’s 15 miles from my house to the office. That’s an hour each way.” Instead, he’s looking at scooters. “I did the math,” he said, “and commuting by scooter would pay for itself within a year. They save that much gas!”
Tony isn’t the only one fascinated by scooters. There’s strong demand for them around the United States. I’ve actually been considering one myself. Since I began working from home, I’ve realized that my crush on the Mini Cooper is impractical. Sure, I want one, but I don’t drive as much as I used to. What’s the sense in buying a $25,000 driveway decoration? Besides, most of my trips are local now. I haven’t ruled out a Mini, but scooters (at $5,000 or less) are looking more attractive every day.
No town is an island
Sometimes it’s difficult to know whether a trend in the Pacific Northwest is representative of the entire country. Portland, especially, can be sort of an island sometimes. (Bikes, for example, are huge here, something I forget until I visit other cities and don’t see any on the road.) This time, however, it seems like maybe the move to alternative transportation is more wide-spread:
- MSN Money: Could you get by with just one car?
- The New York Times: Americans finally react to sting of gas prices
- USA Today: A used Prius is a hot commodity
- The Bakersfield Californian: Scooters, motorcycles moving fast
- Forbes: The least expensive cars to drive
Are people in your city changing their habits to cope with rising fuel prices? Do you plan to make any changes? Are you walking to the store? Biking to work? Have you changed our travel plans? Or are things the same as always?
Scooter photo by paPisc.



Hey JD,
Love the article and I certainly hope that many people in this country are moving in the direction of driving less and choosing more efficient vehicles. One big problem I see is that there are just so many BIG vehicles on the road in the US.
My wife is fascinated by the prius as well and wants one but she feels so safe and comfortable in her current SUV. We live in Dallas, TX so it’s the most common type of vehicle on the road. She’s worried that she won’t feel as secure in the prius and I can see her point, it’s much smaller. Granted, the Prius does great in crash and safety tests, but what they fail to tell you is that these tests are performed on vehicles of similar size and weight. A great crash rating tells you that you will fare well in a wreck with a Carolla or Camry, but it doesn’t tell you anything about your odds if you crash with a Suburban or some other much larger vehicle.
Anyway, my point is that, safety is another big reason people choose the SUV so it may be a slow transition over to smaller vehicles. Even so, with the current price pressure, I think it could still happen (fingers crossed, I’d love to drive a scooter to work! lol)
In the meantime, you can be over 20% more fuel efficient just by driving slower. Does the extra 10 MPH on the highway save you more than 2 or 3 minutes on your commute? Not usually. Does gunning it from light to light ever get you there any faster? Rarely. Slow down and enjoy the ride. (-:
Cheers!
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Down here in Houston I am not so sure of how much effect it has had. I have considered trying to bike commute but that has to do with liking cycling and not due to gas prices. I have yet to see anyone in my office come in on a bike, and that is of about 3000 people.
I actually live in a suburb of Houston, but still fairly close to my office. However, in my city there is NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION available. There are no busses or trains or subways at all, to be able to use one I would have to go almost all the way to my office to be able to catch any transportation.
Hopefully it will change some, unfortunatly the infrastructure here is still not setup for it and it will take a fair amount of time for infrastructure to change.
Finally, on the cycling thing, even in the suburbs Houston is NOT bike friendly, there is rarely a lane for cyclists and traffic does not handle you being in the road very kindly either.
It seems that people around here are making some changes. I live in the Raleigh, NC area and honestly, there is no real public transporation system here. There is a fairly skeletal bus system in Raleigh itself but, like most cities that have increase their population significantly in the last 20 years, the metro area is very spread out. The bus system is not an option for most people. Having said that though, I did read recently that ridership has increased something like 30% in the last year.
There was an article in the paper the other day about how many scooters people are snapping up. And I see a constant stream of new cars these days. Lots of Prius and quite a few Honda Fit and other small cars. Still way too many SUVs around but I have noticed lately that I am not the only smaller car wherever I go these days.
As a family, we have made a few changes because of gas prices. We have two relatively small cars but that isn’t really a change because we made a concious decision to buy smaller, more fuel efficient cars before the gas prices went nuts. However, when we recently took a trip 4 hours away to see the in-laws we took the smaller of the two cars when we normally would have taken the slightly larger one.
I am considerably more concious when running errands and run them in batches now so that I hit all the places that are close to each other in one trip instead of spreading them out over a week. I even changed jobs (I work part time) to one that is 7 miles away instead of 14 miles away.
I would like to make more changes but most of the more dramatic and impactful ones are not practical for us. I can’t ride a scooter because I generally have at least 1 kid with me, usually 2. I can’t ride a bike most places because I live in a very bike unfriendly area (lots of highways and 4 lane heavily travelled roads). I do a lot more walking than I used to but again I am limited by the traffic situation and walking those roads with kids. However, they did just install a new sidwalk along the major road in our town that now makes it possible for me to walk to the post office, city hall and the library/cultural arts center. My daughter and I are going to a show next week at the cultural arts center and I believe we will be trying out that new sidewalk.
Fortunately, the housing bubble caused me to move within walking distance of work. I now hoof it for 8 minutes each way and put the extra cash into my 15 year mortgage. We haven’t parted with the extra car yet, but I am seriously considering it.
I live on a major bike lane in my community of Greeley, Colorado and have seen walking, scooter and bicycle traffic double this summer! I am fortunate to live a community where biking to work, the grocery store and just about everything you need is a reality.
I feel for those who live in newer communities and have no choice but to jump in the car to meet all of their needs. Our family has gotten into the act as well. We have a trailer for our 9 month old that doubles as a grocery hauler. Quick trips (the must have late afternoon ice cream) are done on the bicycle as well as job commuting when ever possible. Suprisingly all this peddling has reduced the gas bill enough that we don’t have to feel guilty about the speedy new road bike my husband purchased!
I’m in the market for a new vehicle. I drive a motorcycle for my commute and average close to 60 mpg. It’s great three seasons a year, but Michigan snow requires that I also own something with four wheels. So what’s my plan? I’m buying a Jeep.
I’m a chronic used car shopper, always eyeing Craigslist and AutoTrader for good deals. I used to see small four-cylinder cars going for dirt cheap. Now, the prices on those cars have skyrocketed. I’m remembering a clapped-out 1996 Contour that was being offered at $4,000. Just two years ago, that same car would have been worth half that.
Since I don’t do a whole lot of driving, I plan to buy a Jeep Cherokee. I’ve always wanted one. You can get one with all the options (six-cylinder, 4WD, etc) for only a few thousand dollars. I don’t drive enough to worry about the gas cost, and if it becomes a crunch, I’ll take the bus. There’s a line that goes from my back door (literally) to the back door at my office, and I ride for free. Besides, I can still drive the motorcycle as long as the temperatures are above freezing.
With the price I’d pay for a nice Cherokee vs. a beat-up Escort, it seems to be a no-brainer to me. In the midst of these high gas prices, am I the only one considering moving up to an SUV?
Last summer when our Volvo finally conked out, we simply didn’t replace it, and I bought a $300 hybrid bike on ebay. This is the point where we started making the most of our decision to live near downtown. My husband has a 45-minute commute, so he gets the car at least 5 days a week. But my “commute” is 2.5 miles one-way to and from campus. All of my doctors and the hair salon I use are within 1.5-2 miles. The longest regular ride I do is to my chiropractor, who is 4.2 miles away, and it’s a lovely uncomplicated ride through mostly old leafy suburbs. When I need to shop, I plan for weekends. When I’ve absolutely had to have a car during the week, we have friends who graciously let me borrow theirs.
The biggest difference I’ve seen in the number of bicycles on the road is that last year, it was basically just me, the occasional student in the immediate environs of campus, a health-conscious neighbor or two, and folks I would guess to be in the predicament of not being able to afford a car, or having had their license suspended for one reason or another (we live a couple blocks away from a sort of shady liquor store–this is the basis of my judgment). This year, there are more students, more neighbors, more business-looking folks, more leisure-looking riders, and the same number of “necessity” riders. And the increased presence of bikers on the road has certainly made a difference in the way people in cars react to my presence–I no longer get honked at or yelled at, for example.
hi! my husband is biking to work and I usually take the bus or walk to go someplace, but just recently we joined a trial membership(4months) for MOBILITY here in Genève-where in a member can get a car whenever he needs, and which is parked in different designated spot in the city . I think this is a better way for us having no garage nor parking space and besides we don’t use car that much.
I live in Montréal, which has a good public transit system and is one of the most bike-friendly cities in North America. Still, the vast majority of people (more than 70%) drive to work. That is changing now with higher gas prices. I heard a bike-shop owner on the radio last week saying that bike sales this year are through the roof, and all of the bike shops in town are overwhelmed with customers. The bike paths are full of commuters; I see it every morning on my daily ride. And use of the buses and Métro has increased dramatically in the past year. The city has put in additional buses and is buying more Métro cars to meet the demand.
What a great article! Thanks for all of the examples of money-saving tips related to vehicles.
I feel like there is a lot of power of knowledge in regards to these situations - planning ahead, locating gas stations, planning errands in a shortest-path sequence, etc. I live in Indianapolis, IN where the public transport isn’t particularly prominent (especially along my work commuet) and the availibility of public transportation will probably effect my internship search in the coming school year.
I live in a rural area of Northern Wisconsin. Our county seat has a population of 8,000 and it’s the largest town in a three county area. The next largest town of 30,000 is sixty miles away. Public transporation is unheard of here. Our summers are short - gardening zone 3. We generally have snow on the ground for five to seven months out of the year. Because of this, scooters and bikes have limited practical use. Also because of the snow, SUV’s are necessary. I get frustrated when people make blanket assumptions that anyone who drives an SUV is an evil gas monger. That is not always the case. We have a Toyota Corolla and an SUV. We use the Corolla whenever possible but there are still a lot of times we’d be housebound without the SUV.
“Biking would save a lot of money. But it’s 15 miles from my house to
the office. That’s an hour each way.”
Wow, he makes it sound like an hour is a horrible commute!
I’ve been “commuting” to the office by bike for 5 years now. During
the winter I take the commuter train, which costs me $250/month for
the pass. The great thing is I don’t have to drive no matter what the
weather. But it’s an hour ride on a train with way too many people
crammed in (and it’s gotten a lot more crowded lately). Then it’s a
10-15 minute walk in good weather, or anywhere from a 5-25 minute
subway ride in bad weather depending upon it’s timeliness
During the summer months, usually from May-September I bike. I drive
~30 miles from my house to where I park my car, then it’s 15-25 miles
to work depending upon which route I take.
I tend to bike in 3-4 days per week. I have a weeks worth of clothes
at the office, and I tend to take the train on Wednesdays in order to
swap out the laundry. The train costs me $15.00/day when I’m not on
the monthly pass (as opposed to the $12.50/day price of the pass based
on 20 work days/month).
Even with $4.00/gal gas, it’s less costly than $250/month for the
train. Additionally, I don’t need a gym membership, so that’s another
$300+/year savings.
I’m a huge advocate of biking to work. It’s fun, it’s healthy, it’s
very cost effective, and far more enjoyable than any other means of
commuting. Even when it’s raining, it’s more fun
About the last thing I’d do to cut down on fuel costs right now would
be to buy another vehicle *unless* I absolutely had to. The taxes and
insurance related to a new car are far more costly than the price of
gas. And even with a Prius, you won’t start making that money back
until after you’ve had the car for about 5 years.
Also, to buy any of the hybrid vehicles for the sole sake of “going
green” is just plain ridiculous. Sure, they use less gas, but the
manufacturing processes used to build these cars have a much higher
impact on the environment than a gasoline powered car. The heavy
metals contained in the batteries alone are a major concern from an
environmental impact perspective.
The best way to reduce your gasoline costs is simply to drive less.
Short of that, drive more conservatively. Buying another car, even
one which gets better gas mileage is unlikely to save you money except
over the extremely long term (5-10 years) once you figure in taxes and
insurance.
Paul
We are very near Milwaukee, and I am also seeing fewer SUVs during commute time (higher proportion of cars) and more bicycles.
I wouldn’t say that the high gas prices are changing our habits much — we like being able to walk and ride bikes places, so we chose where we live to enable that. My DH and I work from home. The kids are 2 blocks from school, we are 6 blocks from the library, and less than a mile from the closest major grocery store. All are walkable on sidewalks on tree-lined streets. If we want to go further away, we are a few blocks from several bus lines and bike lanes and paths, which can get us around for middle-range distances. We own a minivan that we mostly use for hauling and camping, as well as a 1994 Toyota Corolla (164k and not quite dead yet), that we use for shopping and errands.
The problem is that I live in Wisconsin, which has significant winters. All the biking and even the bus options become unappealing when the roads are slushy/icy and the temperature is -20F. (Waiting for a bus in sleet or paying another dollar or two to drive? I’m not that broke. Gimme the keys.)
I have a Nissan XTerra, although I drive under 500 miles a month. After using the Edmonds SUV replacement calculator (http://edmunds.com/calculators/gas-guzzler.html), I realized it would take 27 years to make a Prius purchase effective (in my situation, YMMV literally). Plus, the calculator doesn’t take insurance or local taxes into account.
I also use Zipcar and walk most places.
Like some of the others, our public transportation system is terrible and limited and biking to work is pretty much a death trap. Changing vehicles right now would not save us any money, so we’ve made some much more minor changes.
My husband and I carpool together about twice a week. We tried to make it more often, but found our schedules and work situations just didn’t allow for much more. We also shifted our working hours to be able to travel when traffic is lighter and we’ve kept many of our weekend activities closer to home.
But admittedly, we continued to keep up our summer camping trips and were able to absorb the additional gas costs within our budget relatively well.
I’ve noticed a lot more people around town riding scooters. I’ve thought of it myself, as it seems more practical in my city as we have such a poor bus system.
Instead of getting a scooter, I would think about getting a used small motorcycle like a Kawasaki Ninja 250R or Honda VTR250. They are great, easy to ride, fun little bikes. They don’t get quite as good of gas mileage as scooters, but they are a lot better for highway stints and 50-70mpg in a 250cc motorbike is still pretty good. Yes, a motorcycle needs more capital outlay up front (lessons, helmet, gloves, boots, chaps, etc) but it is more practical for everyday use.
Things are slowly changing here on the east coast. I recently bought a 4-cylinder car from a family member for a dollar. My husband uses it to commute back and forth to work instead of the big diesel truck. Now, he spends $25 a week on fuel for the car and fuels up the truck once a month. Before the change, we were spending $80 a week on diesel.
I’m also changing the way I drive the van. Oh, I’ll be keeping it. Two kids and all their stuff is not going to fit in a Prius-sorry-and the van is paid for. I’ve done as much coasting as I can and always keep to the speed limit. My gas spending has gone from $60 a week to $40 a week.
My husband and I even took seperate staycations this year. We spent our time off going to see local attractions and working on the house and yard. It was much more satisfying to do that than to come home after a week of spending a couple thousand dollars on a trip to find knee-high grass and all those chores waiting for us.
I carpool, and my husband and I decided to make it with one car when his was totaled. So far, no need for a second car, and he works Saturdays (I don’t) and we live in a rural area, 30 minutes from the city.
People thought we were crazy for not buying a second car right away, but we used most of the insurance money to pay off our credit cards and saved part of it for an emergency fund (we’re now working on the auto loan, which will be paid off before the end of the year). I still get asked about what kind of car we’re going to buy, and the truth is, I haven’t thought about it at all. If the situation changes and we find we need two cars again, we’ll buy something used and pay in cash. Until then, we’re saving a lot of money and keeping one more car off the road.
It’s like people can’t fathom only owning one car (also, we live in Texas, and Texans like their vehicles!). No one in our family thought it was a good idea, but I’m glad we didn’t listen.
We’ve been a one car family (just 2 of us) for about 3 years. Saved lots of money in insurance and maintenance with one car. My hubby walks to school/work about 1 mile each way. I usually drive 20 min to work each way. It’s a little tricky when the car is in the shop but I’ve bummed rides with co-workers or borrowed cars from friends. Recently I’ve started a combo of carpooling in the mornings with a co-worker and riding the bus home in the evening 2 or 3 days a week. The bus ride is relaxing time to unwind listening to music and reading in the AC. However, I do wish the bus routes were more ‘user-friendly’. I often wait a long time and walk almost a mile to get to my stops and the route takes about 1 hour (compared to 20 min driving). This combo of driving some days, carpooling mornings, and riding the bus in the evenings has given me flexibility to use the car when I need it (i.e. run errands at lunch or get home quickly for evening plans) but still save $$. Also, we pretty much stay in our neighborhood over the weekend–choosing to walk to most restaurants, stores, church, etc. We’ve managed to keep our weekly transportation (including bus fare) budget under $25 a week this way. Oh, btw, we’re in Louisville, KY (not a lot of similarities to Portland).
I live near Rochester, NY which is a fairly small city so public transportation is limited to the city. My commute is about 35 minutes one way, for bigger city folks that is probably nothing. But it is all highway, close to 30 miles, one way.
So it just isn’t practical to ride a bike to work since it would quadruple my commute time from 1hr/day to 4+ hrs/day.
Hybrids aren’t practical either because they actually don’t get high MPG on the highway because they use braking to regenerate energy.
So my 28mpg, 10 year old, paid off car is just fine. I try to work from home at least 1 day a week which saves about $9 for that day (2 gals x $4 + maintenance).
I am sure outside of major cities this is probably similar for a lot of people.
I’m a Realtor and my car is my mobile office. I can’t always drive less - so I learned to drive differently - I even wrote about it on my blog - http://ctrealestateunleashed.com/2008/05/31/selling-real-estate-in-the-slow-lane/.
It’s saved me some money not enough to cover the increase in costs but enough to make it less painful.
I’ve made some other changes to compensate and save a little more money- I turn off my computer and printer at night, I bought a clothesline, I used the AC less this year, etc.
This may sound odd but I actually want to see gas prices to stay in the $4-5 range for awhile (1-2 years). I’m actually a bit disappointed to see them dip down to $3.50 in my area. The reason for this is that if gas prices stay high for a long time (6 months isn’t a long time), I think it’ll be a big catalyst for change in this country of excess. People will start moving closer to work to save money. Yes, it could drive up real estate in downtown areas but with the housing market falling at the moment, this could be a good way to balance it out. I also want to see people to be willing to live in smaller areas and that a 3000 sq ft home is a must. As a lot of people have already noticed, the era of the SUV will come to an end and smaller cars will become the norm. Hopefully, smaller cars will nix the attitude of “I’m bigger than everyone else on the road so everyone else should get out of my way” attitude that a lot of SUV drivers have. Higher gas prices will also push up the numbers of bicycle commuters as well as the demand for public transportation. If more cyclists are on the road, it’ll make hopefully make drivers more aware of them and will spread the “share the road” mentality. As for public transportation, I came from Atlanta which has a horrible subway system for a city of 4+ million people.
I’ve only recently realized just what a large percentage of cars are SUV’s, vans, or pickup trucks. And while they weren’t all purchased while gas was in the $4/gallon range, gas has now been well over $2/gallon for several years now.
I like my fuel-efficient (between 30-35mpg) car. I do drive a lot, between my drive to work and visiting family. But I have cut back significantly on small errands. I refuse to make a special trip to the store for anything. I went roughly three days without milk in the refrigerator because I kept forgetting to buy it on the way home. Since I wasn’t willing to walk to the store, I just had peanut butter and jelly for breakfast.
i would prefer to drive an old model large car (caddy) for the safety. Gas prices negligible in my case ($50 per week). Lots of people will be nursing big financial headaches after gas goes back down again. It’s already such a small component of my budget that i would rather pay for more gas for a big sedan, espec. when driving family around town. just my 2 cents
In and around Boston the subway ridership is way up. However, for those of us who live & work in the ‘burbs public transport & easy access to safe bikeways are mostly unavailable.
My family made some major changes to reduce driving 3 years ago, but that was more due to quality of life than cost savings. (Plus gas was cheap then! Only $2.00!)
Next month when both my kids are old enough to take the school bus, I plan on starting to walk to work or use a push-scooter. Yeah, I’ll look like a dork but I’ll have fun on my commute!
When my husband got a new job he could take the train to, we sold his car. Then we moved to a very walkable neighborhood. I drive my commute and that’s pretty much it. We can walk or bike wherever we go.
I encourage everyone to look into Zipcar. My husband participated in their Low Car Diet (http://www.zipcar.com/lowcardiet/) for the past few weeks and has driven to take his tests in a scion, civic hybrid and even a mini cooper!
If anyone in the DC area is considering doing zipcar, leave a message on vonhinken.com and i’ll send more info. There’s a happy hour this weekend to celebrate the end of the low car diet. If you sign up during the happy hour, you get a $50 credit! You know, I should go post this on the forums…
Great comments so far.
I grew up in a rural area with no public transportation, so I know how that can affect your car decisions. Also, it rains a lot in Oregon, so that limits how much many people are willing to bike. I’m sure that’s the same in places like Wisconsin, Houston, and North Carolina. (I know that some brave and noble souls will bike year-round in these places, but for most people it’s just too much.)
Also, it completely slipped my mind to mention that the City of Portland has a trip reduction incentive program for its employees. Workers receive $30/month (or about a dollar a day) if they find ways to take alternative transportation at least 80% of the time.
Finally, I’ve been surprised at the number of “green” vehicle dealerships sprouting up in Portland lately. There are two within just a few miles of my house. Green Scene and Ecomotion both sell electric cars, hybrids, bikes, scooters, and more (including used cars with traditional internal combustion engines).
(Oh yeah — electric cars seem to be big around here, too. I know a guy who converted a 1975 Porsche 914 to electric in his spare time. That’s way too extreme for most people, but it’s still a cool idea.)
We didn’t really change our habits because of the higher gas prices. We only have one car, which is all paid for. Hubby takes it to work since public transportation is not convenient to Woburn, MA from where we live and I have a monthly pass for subway to come into Cambridge. We fill up about once every 10 days.
I live in Savannah, Ga and have noticed large changes already. Bus ridership is up even while the public transit system is skeletal. More notices for carpooling. Increased number of bikes downtown and increase in requests for bike lanes on the roads to City Hall.
We are a one car family as my partner can walk to work. I carpool a couple of times a week and have thought about a scooter myself - although I’d have to keep the car for those rainy days and large grocery runs so I’m still deciding if the overall savings in gas would counteract the outlay to buy it initially.
“Two kids and all their stuff is not going to fit in a Prius-sorry…”
Sorry, but that makes no sense. If two kids and “all their stuff” won’t fit in a 4-passenger car, there’s too much “stuff.” It might require some changes in habits, but don’t say it’s impossible! There are plenty of parents who do it all the time, for whom a van is not an option financially.
Here in Chicago I bike to work during the summers, while my fiancee rides the bus. We both take the bus during the long winters.
That’s right, even in a city with plenty o’ subway and commuter rail, we do not own a car and instead take the BUS.
I know Houston doesn’t have ANY public transit….oh wait, here it is: http://www.ridemetro.org/
This is very frustrating for me when people in other cities speak of there being “no public transit”. Apparently buses are some lowly form of transit for “other people”. To be honest I think this is a reflection of our Hollywood, Sex-and-the-City consumerist culture, which says its either the subway or the highway. (In other words buses are what poor people do.)
Well, let me tell you, we are both incredibly successful financially, in fact ridiculously so, and with our huge wallets we carry no shame in making ourselves even better off for taking the bus.
I quit taking the subway long ago when I realized every other yuppie in my city was overflowing the sweaty, humid railcars, all so they could continue to hold a sense of themselves as the next Sarah Jessica Parker or whatever.
I guess they thought themslves too good for a seat on an air-conditioned bus. Too bad because they continue to pay for it, and I feel sorry when I hear people in other cities are wasting their money for the same reasons.
Alex
I commute on a motorbike because I love riding a bike and savings on gas are an added bonus.
Car drivers are fickle. When gas prices got near four dollars, I saw lots of bikes on the road. People driving slower. Fewer cars on the road and full buses.
However, now that the gas prices down. Buses are empty. Bikes have disappeared. Cars and truck are back to normal levels and people are back to driving at 75+.
You can save in your current vehicle by just driving slower. According to my dad who works with wind tunnel testing for a major car manufacturer almost 60% of energy spent by the car at 55 MPH is to over come the air resistance. Interesting part is that for most cars driving at 70 MPH the energy usage for countering the air resistance jumps to almost 75%. At 80MPH it gets even worse.
So just drive slower and please watch out for the bikers.
We’ve always had just one car (and we’re entering our 7th year of marriage). My husband rides the bus, and I try to walk if I can.
But I have changed some of my driving habits. While I’m not a hyper-miler, I have tried to be more conscious of the way I’m driving, and doing so at a slower pace, trying to ease up on the accelerator and time things so that I don’t need to press so hard on the brakes. And we’re now bordering on obsessive when it comes to keeping our tires properly inflated!
Hey hey JD, now you know that even your GRS mod community has its resident scooterist! For city living, nothing beats a scooter. You can park it anywhere, you get 100mpg. Was it high gas prices that changed my behavior? No, for me it was the high carrying cost of insurance and vehicle maintenance that did it!
Though, in the winter, I take the subsidized mass transit. It however, takes me 45 minutes to get into work, whereas via scooter I can get in within 15 minutes.
I cannot strongly urge enough for folk to check out their local scooter store and consider scootering. But please, be safe! Get some motorcycle training, wear the appropriate safety gear, lock your scooter up when youre not riding it, stay visible on the road, and stand up for your traveling rights by treating yourself as if you’re a car.
Yesterday I was traveling down the George Washington Parkway going home, something I’ve done hundreds of times, when a car attempted to drive by me in the lane that I was occupying. They thought since I was a small vehicle they could just go right by. Well thankfully, we were hitting a merge point, so informed the driver that he had to treat me as a motor vehicle, that I had a tag, and a license, and that what he was doing would likely seriously injure a motorcyclist if he did such in the future. The stupid kid thought I was the one who should be off the road.
I suppose that it’ll cost him 75 bucks to fill up his tank to go the same distance I’ll get with 4 bucks is a last laugh, of sorts.
As for other habits, the higher price of commuting has lead my wife and I to purchase reusable bags and trailing carts for our bikes. We now bike to the shops in our area on the weekend to run our errands. Not only is it free transport (we happen to live in a very bike friendly area of NoVa), its free exercise, so no sweating the mojito afterwards.
Owning a car really is a luxury that people have turned in to a neccessity. When you think about the purchase of a car, gas, maintenance, space (and the taxes you pay) to house a car, tires, and insurance that is a lot of money for the average family. Then people go and compound the problem by getting in a car they can’t afford and being upside down in the note.
That being said it has tunred into a neccessity in many places. I live in Memphis and I’m seeing more motorcycles and scooters as well as bicycles. But the city has no bike lanes (literally - zero). This city is also notorious for having bad drivers, with no liscences and without insurance. Plus crime here is so bad and you are very vulnerable on a bike. Public transportation is unreliable as well as unsafe - plus it doesn’t go anywhere I need to go. So 2 cars are still the only option here although I see more and more fools on bikes and scooters. I’m all about not using gas for environmental and finacial purposes, but in this city I wouldn’t dare get on the roads without steel surrounding me.
Well, I met a new friend through a green drinks group and we figured out that we both make the same commute at about the same time of day, so we’ve started taking turns driving a couple of times a week (we figured twice a week was more doable to begin with while we feel each other and our schedules out) and we’re looking to up it to 3 times a week. It’s not a huge change really, just a little extra thought before you agree to that late afternoon meeting. We haven’t noticed huge savings yet, but I figure over the course of the year, it will save about $300 in gas costs. The other benefit, though, is that I now only have a couple of days a week that I can “just stop by the store on the way home.” That has already forced me to shop more often with a list and to really plan my purchases. I have no idea how to calculate the savings that unexpected benefit will reap.
Let’s get one thing straight. The US does not have high gas prices. Gas prices are higher than they used to be but they are still very low by world standards.
The credit crunch has not really made a difference to the way people in my city (London, UK) drive. Most people don’t drive but use public transport or cycle. Those that do, drive cars that are on average smaller and more fuel efficient than the average US car. Across Europe, cycling becomes even more common.
I lived in Sydney, Australia until I was 27 and London for the past four years. I have never owned a car and do not even hold a drivers licence.
It hasn’t really changed my gas habits — because they were already pretty gas-conscious.
I live in the Denver metro area, and we have really great options for public transportation. I live about 1 1/2 miles from a light rail station and two blocks from a bus stop. I don’t take the bus often, but I take light rail to work every day (I also telecommute to work about 2-3 times a month).
That meeans I can limit my driving to back and forth to the light rail station and driving about for my weekend chores/fun. It usually takes me 3/12 - 4 weeks to need to fill up with another 11-gallon tank of gas.
I drive a Ford Focus. It’s completely paid for. I don’t love it but don’t hate it either — I’ve owned it since late 2001 and have only put about 29,000 miles on it in all that time.
All I have to worry about is insurance, tags and repairs/maintenance. When I have to pay those things sometimes I think it would be easier to not have the car, but there are times when I’d really want to have a car — like grocery shopping. I didn’t have a car til I was 24 and grocery shopping was a big pain.
I am not sure that there is zipcar here and not sure I’d care for it — not ready to go there yet.
I am thinking about moving closer to the light rail stop though so I would be able to walk no more than 5 minutes to catch the light rail as opposed to driving. It’s a walkable distance right now but I’m not that motivated to walk all the way there from home. I’d like to arrive from work a little fresher and with less tired feet than that would give me.
Oh and before anyone jumps on me about Memphis transportation public transportation I did use it for a week. My car was having some body work done and I took the bus to work. I walked a few streets over to catch the bus. Most days I had to wait an hour for the bus to come despite the published stop times. I was also propositioned several times standing there waiting on the bus (in a business suit with a work bag). Several men stopped and offered me a ride. I tried for 4 days to “do the right thing”. After being late for work 4 days straight, being propositioned repeatedly and taking 2 hours to go what would take me 10 minutes in my car (cause you never knew when the bus would actually come) I decided getting a rental car for the rest of the week was best. I use public transportation in real cities all the time (DC, NYC, Chicago), but never again in MEmphis…I can’t afford it.
My wife and I considered going down to one car, partly because I work from home, but then I told her I didn’t like being stranded at home all day.
We visited my in-laws this past weekend (rural Kentucky) and there has been a sea change there–both his cousins have bought sedans to replace their trucks as their regular vehicles (one has three kids, and they all seem to fit); his aunt bought a sedan to replace her old van; and his stepmother has scaled down to a small SUV instead of the huge one. We were in just this past April, so in 4 months the high gas prices made that much impact on his family.
Obviously this is just one family in one tiny town, but I was shocked at the changes–up until now I think we were viewed as a little citified and snobby for our Prius (which we’ve had for almost three years now–back when gas was only 2+ dollars a gallon).
BTW, I hope a person *can* fit two kids and all their stuff in a Prius because that’s what we’re planning to do…
JD,
I wonder how many of your Prius buying friends have children. My husband and I would love a hybrid and we’d love a completely electric vehicle even more!
However… we had twins almost a year ago and while we agreed to avoid the whole “baby machine” claim that having children automatically requires a minivan, we were stumped when we purchased our carseats… my husband is very tall and he could not drive our small sedan with two carseats in the back! His knees were literally up around his ears on either side of the steering wheel!
We gave in and paid cash for a used Kia minivan with terrible gas mileage and I feel guilty using that much gas to ferry around a small family of 4. Just because we can purchase a commodity like gasoline doesn’t mean it is owed to us — we shouldn’t need so much! As a result, we’ve driven that van only 4000 miles in the last year, and 2000 of those were a trip east and back to visit family!
How did we get by on only 2000 miles of town driving in a whole year? For starters, I am busy with baby twins and it is difficult to go places with them! Now that they are approaching one year of age, we are far more active and we walk everywhere! It’s easier to haul them if I just pop them in the stroller and we live in a Big 10 university town in the Midwest, so we can get to plenty of places by walking. As soon as they are old enough to have front-facing carseats (which take up far less room in the car), we are considering trading our van for something more economical.
I do care to be green and I do care about saving money, but I mostly care that our family actively rejects the arrogance associated with “if I can afford it, I deserve it” that is so prevalent these days. As you often describe, many people assume they deserve things even when they can’t afford them, which is exactly how we get into so much debt as a nation! Thanks for your work to counter that mentality — both in your own example and with this website.
Jaime
Hybrids still don’t work out economically for the typical driver. It’s easy to say “ride a bike” or “take the bus” when people live in areas where this is feasible, but MOST of the US does not have adequate public transportation, and MOST of the US is constructed to make biking impossible. Scooters are a possibility, but unsafe.
The government would be wise to spend money on reducing oil reliance, except that politicians’ contribution coffers would dry up.
There is some talk about people migrating out of the suburbs and into the city. I think this is mostly hogwash, and migration has more to do with people getting out of their ARMs (by default or otherwise) and into rental situations (more likely to be in the city, especially if their credit is in trouble now).
We’ll move green in energy production. It will be much, much longer before we move green in transportation, especially with oil prices falling $35 barrel in the last few weeks.
I tried riding the bus, but here in Daytona - Votran has too many crazies. It’s unfortunate because 85% of the people who ride ARE normal, but it just doesn’t make up for the smelly drunks and psuedo “gangstas”. Besides travel time is an hour to work and an hour and a half back. Normally, it’s about a 20 minute drive. I’m glad I tried it though because if my car ever does break down, I know I have other options.
I do have plans to purchase a scooter to ride to work and my S.O. recently traded in his big pick-up truck for a small car. Since he drives about 120 RT each day to get to work, his new car payment is less than his monthly fuel expense when he owned the truck.
If you are seriously considering a scooter, I suggest that you wait. Scooters are like exercise equipment: good intentions but not always follow through. If gas goes back down there will be scooters on the market. If gas stays up, the “fair weather” riders will have nearly new 2-wheelers for sale. High milage, Japanese, 4 cylinder with AC, heat and CD - that’s for me.
I live in a college town and I would say that the locals, mainstays and other residents who live here on a constant basis have cut back proportionally on their driving. This summer has seen a lot of the highway traffic reduced significantly. Even rush hour has gone from utterly unbearable to just irritating now. However, as school starts back up again, the college kids are filtering in and these people are relatively immune to the gas price hike as they drive cars that are already paid for by mommy and daddy and even the gas itself is taken care of.
i figured the cost of taking the bus. it’s not much less than the cost of gas for my car, and adds about 2 hours to my day because routes are so limited. the time is worth it to me to keep driving.
biking is not an option here. there are no bike lanes, no shoulders, and no respect for bikers. this was a big shock when we first moved here, since we came from a very bike friendly area. i personally know 3 people who have been hit by cars while biking here, and i’m not taking that chance until we move somewhere more bike friendly.
we bought a hybrid 3 years ago, and that’s serving us very well. last year we bought a car that runs on free restaurant grease for my husband, because he has no choice but to do a lot of driving for the time being and we just can’t afford gas for that, even in the hybrid. his car is about 25 years old, so we spent $79 on a AAA plus membership to cover him in case of a breakdown.
We have always based our living location on public transport and neighborhood walkability. It has never made sense to me to spend time driving when you could be reading on the train or walking — and the increased cost of driving has just reinforced that.
When we lived in San Francisco, we chose a place walking distance from my job and from the Muni/BART station. Now that we’re in the Chicago area, we chose Oak Park so my husband can take the El or Metra to work. I CAN walk the kids around town, although I’m working on the self-discipline and light schedule necessary to make that actually happen every day.
Yes, we may pay more for housing than we save on the cost of driving. But it pays us back in quality of life.
I live in Chicago, so there is a wide network of public transportation options and an increasingly friendly bike system along many of the major streets. I do freelance work in client’s homes and was driving every day out of laziness (and also eating a lot of crap via drive-through). I’ve recently made the switch back to the train and riding my bike on good-weather days. I own a ten-year-old car purchased from a family member and have a very low car payment. I try to use this as little as possible and only on the days when the others are not options. I find that my commute time is actually about the same taking public transportation as when I was driving, but I don’t waste gas sitting in traffic, don’t eat fast food crap and I feel less stressed overall. I didn’t even realize I had felt stressed while driving until I started doing it less. I walk to the bank and grocery store, etc…, so I tend to drive a lot less than some of my suburban friends where many things tend to be centered around driving. This system is saving me at least $80/month on fuel costs alone. I haven’t calculated all the savings yet, but the monetary savings are only a part of the benefits of driving less. I’m using this savings to support my working less and having more free time to be creative. In our metro area, I have seen an increase in scooter traffic, bicyclists, and Smart Cars, but there are still a lot of big cars and SUV’s on the road. I plan to continue my public transportation and biking throughout the year, even in the cold, crazy Chicago winter.
a couple comments on the hybrid comments:
1. the whole myth of the nickel mining effects on the environment has been thoroughly debunked. the prius has approximately the same impact as a large vehicle, which is reduced over the car’s lifetime in decreased emissions.
2. i get 45 mpg on the highway in a prius. to get under 40 mpg, i have to go about 90 mph. (tried it on a segment of a long road trip once late at night with no other traffic.)
3. the hatchback fits plenty of stuff in it. i know a family with 3 kids who takes the occasional road trip in their prius. it can be done.
4. economically, it has been great for us. we were going to buy a $25k car anyway, we paid it off in under 3 years, and in 55k miles we’ve saved a ton in gas money over the other options we were considering. (no, not the typical yaris and corolla comparison, those cars were too small for our taste.)
just my experience. ymmv.
I walk or bike most of the year and bus in the winter. I’ve seen quite a few more scooters and bikes about, and I know that the emerg docs I work with have seen an increase in the number of scooter riders and cyclists coming in after accidents.
It’s not a strict survey but they have said a lot of the accidents did not involve anyone else, just people unused to riding a scooter or bike. So please if you make the change take care to educate yourself on safe riding and plan your route and practice it on weekend days etc.
I have changed my habits due higher gas prices. While I will still drive my car when necessary (such as to work) I take public transportation as often as I can. I find it much cheaper to buy a metro card and use the money on there if I need to go shopping than to drive my car for 20 min. Sure, it takes more time on the train, but I save much more on gas. Also, there is much less wear and tear on my car which also saves a lot.
Have you heard anything about people buying smart cars? I’ve only seen one on the road thus far, but it seems to me that this car may be a better alternative to a Prius if you do not have a family. What are your thoughts?
We’re a single-car household and hoping to stay that way as long as possible, although my SO is considering a career track which will involve a lot of local travel so that may not work forever. I walk or bike to work almost every day. (He’ll sometimes give me a lift in the middle of a thunderstorm, but as we live in New Mexico that’s not usually an issue.)
The biking part is difficult because so few people do it in my area that few drivers know how to share the road, unfortunately. The bus system here isn’t very good, but my SO uses it to go to the library sometimes. We’re hoping in a couple years to move back to my hometown, which for a small town has a very good bus system–actually, sometimes it’s easier for small towns, because all the commercial stuff is on the same main drag.
But we’d probably be doing this anyway. I hate driving and have never personally been licensed, although I’ll get it before we have kids for emergencies. I’ve never been able to see why people are so in love with driving places.
i’ve been ahead of the curve on this one for a long time–for the past 10yrs drivin nothing but beaters (have never made a car payment–its like throwin money away to asuage one’s ego) and use my bike to get around town. Although in the northeast it get tough after the first snow storm.Seems like scooters adn bike shouls be the norm in twarmer climates. plus ridin a bike is getting free exercise.
In Sweden, where I live, one car has always been what most families have. At least if you live in or just outside a city, otherwise you might have more than one car. It is also common not to have a car at all, typically if you’re single and live in a larger city where the public transportation system is sufficient for most needs. In the last few years, public transportation has seen a significant rise in number of passengers as well.
We’ve had environmental taxes on fuel for decades, which I suppose is one reason having multiple cars were never as common as in the US. But the trend towards more fuel efficient cars is strong here as well. I sure will be looking much more closely at gas mileage the next time we have to replace the car.
Scooters have become immensely popular these last few years. Mostly among teenagers, but quite a few adults are using them to get to work nowadays. I have a long commute by train, but got a scooter last year in order to get to the train station faster. The chinese make scooter cost me about USD 1000.
I think the scooter is good value, and pleasant to drive as well (unless it is pouring down). The only drawback is that insurance is expensive. In Sweden it is mandatory to have an accident insurance, but not theft insurance. I only have accident insurance, but even that is about USD 350 a year. Almost as much as for a car. It’s expensive because there’s been a lot of accidents with scooters involved.
I actually changed my driving habits for a couple of reasons - gas prices were the least of them. I live in the city with street parking. A pain. I also got annoyed with how much it costs for maintenance (for a car that sits on the street most of the time). Plus driving anywhere still means finding parking, which negates the convenience of driving. And then there’s environmental and political impact - whatever I can do to lessen it!
So I sold my car. Haven’t missed it. Got zipcar and have rented once to go out of town. Carpool with friends and help pay for gas on out of town trips.
I started taking public transportation to get around, and realized it’s actually faster for me to just walk. So I walk to work and most of my other activities. I take the train or bus to go places more than 2 miles away.
Not counting the wear and tear on shoes, I estimate I spend maybe $50 on all my transportation costs per month (that includes gas in the carpool, train/bus fare). A steal. Plus, I get about 2-4 miles of walking in a day - about an extra 250 calories burned.
Here in Philly we have what’s called PhillyCarShare.org. It’s a non-profit that puts cars all over the city, everything from hatchback Prius’s to convertables. You bacome a member and then pay a small fee to use the car. It’s cheaper than owning, especially if you use public transit for other trips like going to work. They have cars stationed in parking lots and grages all over the city that you can reserve onlie. You get a keyfob that will open a car that you have reserved so you can drive it. They station them in ikea parking lots for people who need to tow stuff. It’s really convenient. The city is currently trying to work out a similar free program with bikes.
Someone asked above about Smart cars — we’ve had them here in Montreal for a number of years now (they were allowed in Canada before the US), and their owners seem happy with them. They’re not great on the highway, but for city traffic they’re excellent and remarkably safe (you can see the crash-test videos online, pretty impressive). The only reason we didn’t buy one is that we use our car mainly for hauling things and getting lots of groceries. With two people in the car there’s not a whole lot of room for much else.
For people with kids looking for alternatives to a minivan, consider the Toyota Matrix. I’m 6′4″ and have long legs; I’ve put carseats in the back (for friends’ kids) and had no trouble. The Matrix gets around 33-34 mpg; it’s a Corolla with a different body. I find it very practical.
“This may sound odd but I actually want to see gas prices to stay in the $4-5 range for awhile (1-2 years). I’m actually a bit disappointed to see them dip down to $3.50 in my area. The reason for this is that if gas prices stay high for a long time (6 months isn’t a long time), I think it’ll be a big catalyst for change in this country of excess. People will start moving closer to work to save money. Yes, it could drive up real estate in downtown areas but with the housing market falling at the moment, this could be a good way to balance it out.”
I do appreciate the perspective but object to it on a lot of levels.
1. The area I live in is very dependent on tourism. There are businesses that are seeing a 75% drop this year - businesses that have supported families for over 30 years that don’t know if they’ll make it through this year. The ripple effect on our local economy will be devastating.
2. Who is going to buy all these houses in the burbs so everyone can move closer to the city? You can’t sell a house without a buyer.
3. The housing bubble burst because the housing expense to income ratio has been way out of whack - in other words it burst because housing was too expensive. Housing needs to come down and/or wages need to increase. Increased housing prices in cities would not be good or helpful at this point in time.
Like it or not, our economy is largely based on and driven by oil. The ripple effect of high oil prices is scary. Osama bin Ladin’s goal was to get oil to $200 a barrel because he calculated that was high enough to collapse our economy. Saying you hope gas prices stay high is akin to saying you hope there’s another Great Depression.
Yes, I agree we need to transition off of oil. Yes, I agree we need to end our oil dependency but there’s got to be a better way to do it than by pushing millions of families into financial ruin.
To the person in sweden..
Two things.
1)) Chinese made scooters often have parts problems and you can’t get replacement parts. Stick with Japanese, Taiwanese, or Italian brands.
2) 350 a year for insurance??? Wow. Insurance for our two scooters isn’t above 275 a year for BOTH, and that’s full comprehensive with low deductible.
Bob, I think is wrong about gas prices changing and affecting the number of scooters for sale. However, he is right in that there are alot of folks who buy a scooter brand new, and then don’t like (most commonly, its don’t feel safe or they dont buy equipment to drive in rain or snow) the experience, and they’re sold for half price on craiglist.
Great post, really hits home JD.
I have a GMC Sierra because we own a travel trailer and enjoy camping…and do not want to change that lifestyle. So for commuting to work and quick trips to store I bought a Honda Metropolitan for $1200 from a friend last year. My annual insurance amount is about $100. I get 85 MPG, so during much of the year I save A LOT on gas.
Interesting.
Here in the UK I’d say that your fuel prices are ridiculously cheap. I agree with Caitlin that here it hasn’t made much difference to the daily commute - working in a city most people already take the train or bus to work anyway.
I’m a strictly non-car person. Works well for me, I’ve also always been a non-car person when travelling and I’ve used the buses in Houston. In fact, I’ve always found buses in the States to be pretty good, at least as good as the UK.
I sold my car in January because I just wasn’t using it enough to justify the expenses. I figured I’d try life without a car, and if it became unbearable I could always buy something cheaper. I was taking the train in to work every day, so I didn’t need a car to get to work.
A month later I moved in to Minneapolis and started taking the bus. Once the weather got better I bought a bike and I haven’t been on the bus since. It’s been fantastic - I’ve saved a ton of money, I’m the healthiest I’ve been in years, and I have a new perspective and appreciation for my city.
As for the idea that SUVs are safer than a smaller car, they’re not. You feel safer, and as a result you’re really not. You’re removed from your surroundings, and an SUV is not as nimble as a small car. If you hit something, you might be safer. But a smaller car is much less likely to actually hit something. Malcolm Gladwell wrote a great piece on this in 2004 at http://www.gladwell.com/2004/2004_01_12_a_suv.html.
Having been a motorcyclist for 30 years and close to 500k miles, I’d suggest a couple of things to keep in mind. Get training! In the US, try http://www.msf-usa.org/ MSF stands for Motorcycle Safety Foundation, but most of the stuff they teach will also apply to scooters. It’s about learning how to handle 2 wheels instead of 4 - there are differences and it’s better (safer!) to learn in a classroom. Also, many insurance companies will give a discount (mine gives 10%) for completing this course. Somebody said something about saving money on a scooter because you don’t have to buy safety gear (helmet, etc.) - that may or may not be legal in your area, but it certainly isn’t safe. You use a helmet on your bicycle, don’t you? Any scooter or motorcycle will go fast enough to do much more damage to you if the worst happens - always wear a helmet at the minimum!
Also, storage space on any 2 wheeler is limited. You won’t be able to swing into the grocery store and pick up 6 bags of food on the way home like you could in the car. I ride a large motorcycle, with side bags and a trunk (looks like one of these: http://tinyurl.com/6lmn2s) and at best, I can stuff 4 bags of groceries into it. Depending on what else I’ve got with me, sometimes a lot less than that. Most bikes have very little storage. Look at most of the riders you see and you may notice a large number of them wearing backpacks - just the place for that quart of milk or loaf of bread that you have to pick up.
If you are seriously considering a 2-wheeler, now might be the time to do some research and start looking for one. As someone else pointed out, used ones can be good deals (although they don’t drop in price as much as a car), and as summer ends and fall begins, many fair-weather riders will want to sell, so the supply should be good soon.
@Alex, I had commented that in the suburb of Houston there is no public transportation. Just to make sure I just went over the maps on ride metro and the closest bus stop to me is 7 miles, and my office is 10 miles.
I just purchased my home and chose one based on proximity to work and to be in what I considered to be a respectable and safe neighborhood.
We’ve made no change, and neither has much of anyone we know, but that’s because we already do all of the things that everyone else is talking about doing. I walk to work–my son’s preschool is on site, so he comes with me–and my husband takes the bus. I pick up groceries on the walk home, although we make a trip across town by car for staples every two weeks, and a weekly trip by car to pick up our CSA box (it’s a little over a mile, but it’s awkward to carry the box on foot, and we have to move the car that night for street cleaning anyway). We’ve had one car for over a decade, since we started dating.
My sister and her husband don’t have a car at all. My in-laws have shared one car since they moved out of NYC in the 1960s (where they had no car). Most of my colleagues bike to work or take transit, which is strongly encouraged by our employer, and many don’t have cars at all. I’m always surprised when I’m reminded that many American households have one car per driver. What a hassle! I’d far rather deal with occasionally rubbing against humanity on the bus than deal with the expense and traffic involved with driving. I suppose people can get used to anything, though.
i drive a little 4 banger to work.. it’s no hybrid but it gets 30+ mpg city and highway combined (toyota tercel)
the v8 sits in the garage.. weekend only car
My family took a family trip this year to Las Vegas and Disneyland, but decided to drive instead of flying. Cheaper to drive with gas @4 than fly and rent cars in LV and Anaheim. We actually averaged 23 mpg in our suv. I was very impressed.
Now that we are back home, we drive less than 30 miles a week and my wife uses a vanpool at work. Her company also pays her not to drive by reimbursing for the vanpool. A very nice incentive.
I don’t know if we could go down to one vehicle in our family as it would be a stretch. It’s possible, but it would add another hour to my wife’s 2 hour commute.
When we lived in the Twin Cities, biking was hugely popular. Even in the winter.
Here in rural Virginia, it’s not so popular. My husband won’t even consider riding the 25 miles to work on his bike (he used to ride every day in grad school), not because of the commute, but because of the danger. Too many people are hit around here to make it seem safe.
We’re currently using one car. I stay home with our two boys. We’ve talked about getting another car. We even went to see a 2000 Subaru Outback, but at $5,000 we felt it was a bit much for a luxury. We know at some point we’re going to need to buy a minivan (perhaps when the next one comes along), but right now our 2001 paid for Jetta gets 35 mpg and it works for us right now.
I commute with a bike and also have a motorcycle. I’ll second the comments about rider safety, scooter or motorcycle, both are capable of speeds that will cause serious injury if you crash. I have walked away from a motorcycle crash (front tire blowout at 60mph) because I was wearing full safety gear. I would recommend “Proficient Motorcycling” by David L. Hough as required reading for anyone going to 2 wheels. Don’t let me scare you away from riding. If done safely it is amazing. When you are on a motorcycle you connect with your surroundings in a way that is not possible in any kind of car. My best travel memories are riding a motorcycle along the pacific coast, glacier national park, yellowstone etc. Not to mention the motorcycling community is very friendly. There have been many times when I have been stopped by the side of the road to stretch or get a drink of water and a complete stranger on a motorcycle will stop just to make sure I am not having mechanical troubles. If you buy an older motorcycle they are very cheap and VERY easy to make repairs on. Everything is out in the open and the mechanics and electrics are usually very simple.
Hi JD,
I know a mini owner and she needs to buy premium fuel. Any MPG savings are wiped out by the cost.
We’re stuck with two vehicles. My husband is a carpenter by trade, so he has (and always will have) a pickup truck for work. We own another smaller vehicle (but still not teeny, it’s a Mazda5) for family trips.
We certainly have changed the way the pickup is driven - fewer hikes, fewer ski trips, fewer excursions. But I still haven’t given up commuting in the family car. It just isn’t painful enough.
My company offers free bus service and I still don’t take advantage of it. My daily commute is 25 miles round trip, or 1 gallon of gas, which makes for a monthly commuting cost to me of $90. If I drive, the commute is 30 minutes each way. If I take the bus, I have to drive 2 miles to the park and ride (7 minutes), wait for the bus (7 minutes to allow buffer), take a 30 minute bus ride, then walk to my office from the bus stop (5 minutes), for an additional daily time cost of 38 minutes, or 14 hours a month. These are 14 hours a month I spend with my toddler daughter. I’m spending $6.43/hr to buy back this short time in her life. I consider this a good deal. If gas gets even more expensive, or traffic gets worse and extends my drive time, then and only then I will reconsider my commute.
The next car I buy (granted, this will hopefully be 8 years from now) will be smaller.
JD, if you’re interested in scooters, I invite you to come to Plan B on any Tuesday night, where the local scooter community gathers to hang out. You can have any questions answered you want, without a dealer trying to sell you on their model. Most of us focus on vintage bikes, but we’re all very knowledgeable about the various options and we all know from experience which dealers to avoid and which are good. Just look for a table with a bunch of helmets on it and introduce yourself.
Oh, another bonus: scooters and motorcycles cost $30/month for parking at Smart Park.
I wish the US had public transportation like Germany and other European countries have. The great trains, subways, buses. And bicycle lanes separated from both car lanes and pedestrian sidewalks to make it safer for everyone (saw this in the Netherlands).
My boyfriend and I live and work in downtown Seattle, which means our “commute” is short, free (ride-free bus zone), and walkable. We use Zipcar to get groceries and make other trips (but more often take the bus), though not often since $10/hr can quickly become spendy.
If you’re looking at this purely to save money, a brand new hybrid is a bad investment.
A used high-mileage car will still save you more money over the life of the car; it can take a prius 10-20 years to catch up with an old civic since you get such a head start on the price of the car.
Sure there’s other factors. There’s the prestige of having a hybrid (some would call that smug), the pleasure of driving a new car, and any other personal wants and desires. Those are all valid reasons to choose one car over another. Just don’t assume you’re saving the most money without doing the math first.
We have cut back our miles driven to less than 1,500 miles a month. My 2004 Ford F150 costs $0.31 per mile to drive; 2006 Toyota Sienna $0.21. We have shifted miles off of the truck to the van to make our dollars stretch their furthest. I have tuned up my hybrid bike to make the daily work commute. Now, the truck spends more time sunning itself than scooting around town. When gas hit $4.49 a gallon in greater Sacramento, I was faced with a $125 fill-up. Personally, I made the decision to invest in my health rather than a ballooning gasoline line item in the family budget. My only regret is biking on days when it is 100+ degrees. I’m a stinky sweater!
Nowadays in NYC, significantly more people have turned to taking the subway compared to just a year ago. It is quite hard to get a seat on the train now and you’ll see many more people in clean suits riding on the train.
My boss, a dentist, used to drive to his office in Midtown Manhattan. When gas prices started rising, he just gave up on driving and started taking the train also (odd for a guy who owns 2 cars and 2 sailboats).
I’m not sure what the fuss is, really. I haven’t changed any part of my driving habits because of the increase in gas prices.
I live in San Francisco, which always seems to have the highest gas prices in the nation, and I buy premium gas for my car (I have a VW GTI VR6 which requires premium unleaded, but which also gets 27 MPG highway). I’m used to paying a lot for gas. In fact, there’s a station that was charging close to $5 for two months, and when they reduced their price to $4.40, I said to myself, that’s cheap! I don’t know of a station in SF that is under $4 yet.
I realize that owning and driving a car is a privilege and a choice, and if gas gets too outrageous, I’ll stop driving and take public transportation in the Bay Area. But so far, it hasn’t become unbearable, and I still drive to work and back every day. It’s funny, back in 1991, when gas was just under $2 a gallon, I swore that I would stop driving if it went over the two-dollar mark, and yet, I kept going. Same thing with $3, and more recently with $4.
I still take road trips on the weekends, sometimes spending up to $150 a weekend on gas alone. I realize that it is exorbitant, but it’s my choice, and I’m not suffering yet. I like to drive, and I’m willing to pay the price.
I’m lucky enough to have lived in the SF Bay Area for the six years since I graduated college, and we only had a car for about two years during that time. We bought a Civic in spring 04 for my husband to commute to a new job in San Jose (one hour+ each way). But we sold it back in November after he had switched jobs again when we realized we weren’t using it that much. By not paying insurance, the car payment, our parking spot, gas, and maintenance, we have more than enough money for Zipcars, transit passes, the occasional weekend rental car, and even some extra savings - all the more important since I will be entering a full-time Masters degree program this fall. I also love the green factor, even though it takes us longer/more planning to get places sometimes. I hope that my efforts help offset for people who don’t get to live in a good transit area. But if you do, I wholeheartedly recommend the Low Car Diet, whether with Zipcar or just on your own. It’s definitely worth it and you end up getting to know your city really well when you take the bus or walk to more places.
I live in inner SE Portland; my husband and I commute together. We pay $152 for a monthly parking spot downtown…two monthly bus passes currently total $150 and the bus pass is going up! Sure, we also have to count amortizing the car value and gas and maintenance, but the car just looks a lot better. No standing in the rain or heat waiting for the next bus, hoping it’s not too full to take on passengers. Plus our commute is a 15-minute drive versus a 45-minute bus ride (due to stopping every 2 blocks and underpowered engines for the uphill evening commute).
Our commute is under 4 miles each way. I’ve thought about walking it or biking, but it’s downhill in the morning and uphill at the end of the day, when you’re tired. The other problem with the bus is I get motion sick, severely enough that I need to lie down for a half hour after a bus ride.
There’s one big issue I don’t see people discussing: all these car alternatives like walking, biking, or riding a scooter, are only options for the temporarily able-bodied. Anyone with a chronic disease or disability, or a temporary injury, has fewer options.
I have been seeing more and more motorcycles on the road today and less large vehicles. I am not sure if it is my a mis perception on my part or if it is actually true. However, I do believe people really are changing the way they live to accommodate high oil prices. It seems to be in the news every day and people are finally opting for change by buying smaller cars and taking transit. As unfortunate as high gas prices have been, it truly does have it’s long term benefits.
When I talked to my brother the other day, he was laughing about how his 2-year-old Prius is the only car he’s ever had that’s worth more than when he bought it now that everyone’s trying to buy them.
Personally, I live in Manhattan so I subway everywhere. My workplace has a program that will let me pay for my monthly transit pass out of pretax dollars, so that saves me about $30 a month right there. We haven’t owned a car in 3 years, which is how I like it. I grew up in small-town Texas where there was minimal to no public transit and the parking lots spread wide across the prairie. It’s a nice change.
Although I love public transportation and think people should use it whenever possible, I also think that it’s probably not a feasible alternative for most folks. American suburbs are too far-flung and spread out for public transit to become an efficient way to get to work for most people–at least, not without some big taxes to pay for it all, which will not be popular. So my hope is that demand will press car makers to deliver ever-more-efficient vehicles that will let Joe Schmoe get himself to work in a way that isn’t actively ruinous to the environment.
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I am all for biking, walking when you can. Like others, I have a long commute and no public transportation to my workplace. Actually I could drive just to the park and ride at the 31 mile mark, and take the bus the other 5 miles - but it would require transferring to 3 different busses to get where I am going. But here’s the thing - I live in Ohio, where we have 3 seasons - Snowy, Rainy and about 3-1/2 months of not snowing or raining. Biking any distance over a mile or two is out of the questions. And also where I live, there are limited shoulders and no bike paths.
However, I have seriously cut back on my driving. I used to go to Canada about once every other month and a quarterly pilgrimage to IKEA has been cut back to once or twice a year.
I agree that us Portlanders are definitely ahead of the curve, but usually similar behaviors are adopted elsewhere in time. The thing I notice is that people in Portland often adopt gas saving habits for the enviornment or other social reasons. In other parts of the country people will make changes that help their wallets.
A point of contention for me is the opinion that the Prius is the best car ever. I know several people that have them and see them everywhere, but their gas mileage is pretty comparable to other small cars on the highway. They also seem to have horrible blind spots that significantly impact safety in my opinion.
I love how flexible things are in Portland. Unfortunately, I need to have my car at work most days for my job and I live far enough away that it doesn’t make sense for me to give up my car. There are definitely some days where I’m jealous of my bike riding co-workers!
While I know it’s not an option for me now, I hope that one day I’ll be much less car dependent. My husband has been talking about getting a scooter once we move and he’s in his job, but with our wet fall - spring, I’m not sure how great of an idea that is. At least anything we do will be accepted here!
Great article. My wife and I just moved to a new city. We almost bought a house in the suburbs 20 miles from our work, but instead we are renting a house next door to my wife’s work and on the bus line. SO I take the bus downtown everyday, which is a lot cheaper than putting premium in my 12MPG fuel-sucking SUV. We have saved a lot of $ by not filling up so often. We also opted for a staycation this summer as opposed to driving the 600 miles to our typical beach spot.
One last thing, and let me clarify I am in no way affiliated with this blog US Miles Driven Declines, but I thought it was interesting and related except on a macro level whereas GRS tends to be micro oriented.
The cost of rising gas prices have forced me to reconsider my driving habits around Minneapolis. I just wanted to let you know that Portland is not the only city that embraces biking as an alternative to driving. Minneapolis has NUMEROUS upon NUMEROUS miles of bike trails throughout the city, not including the surrounding metropolitan areas.
It is great to hear that there are other cities out there that provide bike trails for cyclists!
I live in Tampa, Fl. Were most of the drivers are very wealthy & extremely important. I know this because they continue to drive like it.
They race to the next stop light, talk on the cell phone while driving, spend lots of time idling in the drive thru lines, and driving like total idiots. I however, am not rich or important, so I plan my trips, combine my trips, and drive conservitavly. My car is rated 17 mpg city, I get 18.75 mpg city. I cut my miles driven by almost 35% and my monthly gas bill has gone down…
We just received our conversion kit to make our 1985 Mercedes diesel station wagon, which gets about 30 m.p.g., run on used vegetable oil. The people at Greasecar.com took a while to get it to us, ’cause they’re a bit backordered, they’re so popular. The price of diesels has gone up for this reason.
I’ve considered scooters. Just got a quote for insuring a 2005 50cc Honda Metropolitan– $75 a year, here in a major city where insurance rates are higher (though where scooters make the most sense).
My husband and I sold one of our two cars to finance our wedding almost 9 years ago. He had started bike commuting (on the Monterey Coast)and loved it. When we moved to Portland 7 years ago, we started out in an apartment close to the Max. Now we are entrenched in suburbia. We still have one car (toyota camry) which I drive (kids, groceries) and he still commutes by bike, rain or shine. Since we have been doing this for so long, it’s hard for me to put a monetary value on it. Most people think we are nuts, so maybe it’s more of a lifestyle. I wouldn’t change it for the world. I’ve even started grocery shopping by bike on the weekends. I’m probably more of a fair weather rider, but it is satisfying to bring home the bacon on a bike!
handworn, good luck with the conversion! going greasy is very near to paying for our 85 benz. that’s purchase price and all repairs to date, over the price of gas to run husband’s gas-only car that’s already paid for. we’ve owned it for under one year and done a lot of work to it, oh and spent about $800 on a centrifugal filter setup since he uses a whole lot of fuel. it’s a big money saver.
We didn’t replace our second car when it got stolen. Instead we banked the insurance money and I started taking the bus regularly. We found that the cost of the bus ticket is roughly equivalent to the price you would pay for gas for the same trip, but when you factor in things like insurance, maintenance and registration (taxes) it is a lot cheaper not to own a second car.
The fuel situation is causing a fascinating paradigm shift all the way around. I heard on the news recently that the decrease in fuel consumption is higher than ever before in recorded history. People have made the conscious shift to alternative modes…hallelujah! Now, if we can all keep our tempers under control as we deal with congested bus routes, busy bicycle lanes, and pedestrians sharing the sidewalks with a higher number of walkers. Good problems to have!
I drive an older 98 buick lesabre with a 3.8 in it, I am surprised at all of the people who are focused on buying “small cars”. I researched the market and found that new cars get worse mileage than the vintage 90’s and early 2,000 cars. I get 30 mpg with it and it is a huge car. My eagle vision got 26-28 miles per gallon and that was also a midsize car. What happened? Now everyone is thinking “tiny” and still only getting 30-35 mpg. You can save by just buying a car instead of a truck or suv.
Spending 30,000 on a new car is not saving a thing. It is a status symbol of the new cool, to own a prius, just like it was cool to have a suv or 4 door truck two years ago.
If you actually figured out your savings there would not be any.
TO Dave and the motorcyclists:
Yes, taking the MSF course should be required for anyone who is on a motorized two wheeled vehicle. I took that course and its probably saved me from 3 accidents so far.
To whoever is thinking about a Honda Met, that’s a great little scooter to get around town.
To the Plan B folks up in the west, you guys need to Cannonball your way down to DC for Scootergate!
I now ride my bike 9 miles a day. I guess that I’ve saved $400 in gas, not to mention the exhaust gases. I plan to continue far after gas prices ’stabilize’ at the small percentage reduction conceded by the big-oil gods. Besides, the health benefit is a no-brainer.
I currently live in a medium-sized midwestern city with so-so public transit and a job that requires me to move between sites. So I drive an 8 year old civic, which works great. I am interviewing for a job in a larger, less southern midwestern city and my husband and I are looking at public-transit friendly or walking/biking distance homes if I get the job. We will then sell both paid-for vehicles (a 4 runner — we used to live in rural Eastern Washington and you had to have it in the winter and the civic) and purchase a smaller, more fuel efficient AWD vehicle to share (since we’re moving back to a heavy snow area if this all pans out!)
Hi J.D.,
You’re starting with the observation that your friends family gets by with just one car. That made me realize that I’m getting by without any car at all for two and a half years now.
Before that, I drove 50.000 km (a little bit more than 30.000 miles) a year! Instead of driving a car, I’m using the bus, trains, air travel, the occasional cab and even rental cars. I did the math: In the end, I’m covering even more miles per year at reduced cost and at a faster pace. So, my message to all is, look out for alternatives. You might be surprised.
But here’s the best part. I didn’t sell my car because of increasing gas and insurance prices. I didn’t give up my car for the environment, although I’d like to be that kind of man. No, the reason I did this, was because I couldn’t bear to watch my beautiful car being ridden down like this. Isn’t that crazy? That was the moment I realized that I bought that car for having a very expensive driveway decoration in the first place.
Cheers!
I’m amazed at how few posts have mentioned car-pooling. I started carpooling with a co-worker when gas prices in California hit $3 a couple of years ago. We would trade turns driving (I had a 40 mile one-way commute; hers was 20 miles). It only added a couple minutes of extra drive time to detour to her house, we each still had a car every-other day and immediately started saving money (25% and 50% respectively).
This was a great solution for us because we each lived in smallish cities and worked in a rural part of the county. Now I walk the mile or so each way to my new job (most days - sometimes I’m lazy), but I’d definitely go back to car-pooling if I had a longer commute.
I haven’t driven for 15 years. I rent a car if necessary. I get most places by cab. They drive you right to the door and you never have to worry about parking. Any store will also be happy to courier a purchase to you. I walk most places and am not fat because of that. Nothing disgusts me more than hearing about or seeing people drive to the gym. Even if my lifestyle was more expensive, I would do it - but, it’s WAAAAAAY cheaper and doesn’t interfere with my scotch-drinking hobby either. The only thing I don’t like, is that I like global warming. I hate cold weather. Cabs are always toasty warm in the winter and if you’re a regular customer, the cab companies give you special phone number so you get preferential treatment.
No, I’ve found that (debt-free cars have better gas mileage*).
James Bragg :- )
*From Dave Ramsey Show…..
I use to take the Toll roads got me to work fast but was costing me 80$ a month. I found another way to work, takes 10 mins more but it works.
We also save trips up and run them all in one day. And of course we are driving allot less, not going out to dinners or movies ect.
My wife and I haven’t made any changes to our driving habits. We have 2 cars but both are relatively fuel efficient and our driving habits are efficient as well. I’ve looked at hybrids but going from 30 mpg to 40-50mpg is not a giant savings with our low driving rates even at $4 a gallon. We’re holding out for electric or plug-in electric hybrid cars.
@Odd Lot, #1: Regarding relative safety of Prius vs. SUVs. The front crash tests I’ve seen are with a solid brick wall. Side crash tests are designed to simulate a crash with a SUV or truck. see:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/default.aspx
Fatality rates in SUVs have been relativley high due to the high instances of rollovers and high fatality rates due to those rollovers.
In 2004, overall fatality rates were higher in SUVs as a class compared to cars:
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809979.PDF
Midsize cars and vans do best as far as having lower fatality rates.
@L, #52 : “I work with have seen an increase in the number of scooter riders and cyclists coming in after accidents.”
My uncle bought a used scooter this summer then pretty quickly crashed it and broke a few ribs. Not to discourage people from scooters or motorcycles, but if you’re new to them then a safety course is probably a good idea at least.
Jim
People go on and on about “I can’t ride a bike/ride a scooter/take public transit… it’s not SAFE”.
True, on a bike or scooter you don’t have a steel cage (prison cell?) protecting you from the great world outdoors. If a 2 ton vehicle hits you at speed, yes, you’ll probably die. But the idea is not to get hit. It’s easier than you think.
You can learn safe biking. Wear a helmet, make sure you have reflectors and lights. Learn to ride in a visible lane position, even if all the fools in their cars honk at you. Let them honk - they’re paying through the nose to drive and to park, while you’re doing it all for free.
I’ve been commuting by bike and public transit in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area since 1992 - long before it was fashionable. Originally it was because I couldn’t afford to keep my car: I earned low wages right after graduation, and had a lot of student loan debt. That’s no longer the case, but I kept up the lifestyle because the financial and environmental advantages were just too clear.
The thing about public transit is, you do have to cultivate a certain degree of tolerance toward your fellow man. But shouldn’t we do that anyway?
Well, Montreal *is* an island, and things seem to be changing around here. We have very good public transit, and many people are using it for at least part of their commute. Parking is also becoming expensive downtown, so many people choose to leave their cars on the outskirts of the city. The car-sharing service Communauto is so busy, they now have a waiting list. Their whole fleet is made up of Prius or Yaris cars, so they get great kilometerage (!). The best thing about them, to me, is that your cost-per-kilometre includes insurance, maintenance, *and gasoline*. The price remains stable, even with the crazy increases in gas prices we’ve seen.
I was an intern at our local public transportation agency last year, and the challenges public transportation faces are frustrating. It’s hard to get people to realize how easy, convenient and cheap it is. Many people think of a car as a must-own: even in this article, JD, you’re surprised that someone could get by without one. I know many people, even with children, even living in the suburbs, who get by without one. It’s all about changing what’s defined as a need.
Great article and great comments.
My husband and I have been pretty disciplined in staying within our planned budget over the past year. Every day I write on a calendar — which hangs on the refrigerator — what amount we spent that day and where we spent it. This is a very easy way for us to quickly note our expenses and compare to our budget. A few days ago, I was glancing through the calendar and noticed in mid-June that we began a pattern of not purchasing anything on the weekends. I then began realizing that we had — without it being a planned behavior change — stopped driving and shopping on the weekends.
I am fortunate to work only 4 miles from home. The busy roads with no shoulder do not permit safe bicycle riding and there is no mass transit where I live. However, my office is next door to a grocery where I can pick up a few incidentals in between our monthly “big grocery shopping” trip we do at a discount store 8 miles away. ‘So, no extra driving required.
We plan non-grocery shopping outings to coincide with other required trips. Therefore, before leaving our house, we are now planning what we need to do and how many other stops that can be bundled in a trip.
I have a friend at work who says she uses the UPS method of saving gas by planning her car outings so that each stop along her “route” requires her to make a left turn. ‘Not sure if that really saves gas, but it sure adds more creative thought to the most mundane trip, I’m sure!
Hi again,
I have to say I’m shocked at the number of people who say that biking isn’t feasible or isn’t safe where they live.
Where do you live that it’s not safe? I bike in/out of Boston every day! Boston is known the world over for having some of the worst drivers in the U.S. Is it *perfectly* safe? No, but neither is driving a car here. But just like driving a car in traffic, you need to be careful, drive defensively, and be aware of your surroundings.
Now, some might say, “Well, Boston and the surrounding towns have bike lanes, and my city doesn’t!” Let me tell you, those “bike” lanes are better known as double-parking, delivery lanes where you’re more likely to get a door opened in your way than not. You actually are better off driving *in* the traffic. And, since (at least by MA state law) a bike is a legal vehicle, it is legally entitled to take up an entire lane. But, it is also legally required to obey all traffic laws just like a car (with a few exceptions - e.g. lane sharing is legal on a bike, but not a scooter or motorcycle).
Another thing we have here in Boston are “Bike Trails”. The Minute Man Bike Trail is the most heavily bike-commuter trail in the country. And while I do ride this trail on occassion, and agree it is a great resource, I also, ironically, think it’s less safe than riding my bike in city traffic. The reason being that a) there are too many crossing where you end up going perpendicular to traffic, and b) there are far too many recreational users of the trail who don’t obey the “rules of the road”. I’ve actually had more close calls and problems on the trails with people suddenly shifting directions, not watching where they were going, or being just plain inconsiderate than I ever have in city traffic.
During the 5 years I’ve been biking in/out of Boston, I’ve had occasion to meet and speak with many other bikers. Many of them have come to Boston from other areas in the country. Many from NYC, and they biked *there*. Now, I can’t imagine anyplace more congested or “unsafe” than New York city for a bike. But evidently hundreds, if not thousands of people do it every day.
The other thing I’ve seen here is the dismissal of biking “because it’s too far to be practical”. I live over 45 miles from my job. I don’t bike the entire distance. It doesn’t have to be an all-or-nothing experience. I drive 30 miles to where I park my car and ride my bike the last 15. Sometimes I drive in only 20 or 25 miles and make the ride longer to make different.
One thing to note about being on a bike is that you are not limited to the “usual” commuting roads. You can basically go anywhere you want. And in many cases, these roads which may be impractical in a car make for a fantastic bike ride. Another thing to note is that, contrary to driving, there is no such thing as a traffic jam or a long wait at a traffic signal.
So, while I agree that the thought of biking to work may seem at first to be unnerving or impractical, don’t dismiss it of hand, look for ways to make it work rather than excuses why it can’t.
If you enjoy being outdoors give it some more thought. Visit your local bike shops, especially the ones closest to where work and ask them about commuting by bike. They are great resources and will likely be very enthusiastic about helping you out. Also, look for biking organizations. Here in MA, we have the Massachusetts Bicycle Coalistion (www.massbike.org), and they periodically provide biking classes to teach people how to commute by bike and how to properly bike in city traffic.
It’s also fine if you have no interest in biking to work or wherever. It’s certainly not for everyone. But please don’t make lame excuses that it’s too far or there’s nowhere that’s safe. It’s never too far, and it’s no less safe than driving.
Paul
of course buying a used car puts up major savings over buying a new car. me personally, i’ll spend the extra money to know some idiot didn’t try some stupid stunt while servicing his own car or just not service it at all. (really, i’ve seen it all.) so i was going to buy new regardless of what i got, looking in that same low-$20k price range. the hybrid had the advantage in the long run over the other cars i was looking at.
at the time, gas was under $2/gal and i just liked the car. sorry if i don’t fit the stereotype. there are lots of us who don’t.
It’s interesting how many people say their cities have no decent public transport. That’s true in Phoenix, too, although the City Parents have been working hard to change that. The way the city is laid out, though, makes bus transport pretty impractical, and the lightrail they’re building to the tune of zillions of dollars has the strangest whiff of Eau de Boondoggle about it.
The area is also powerfully bicycle-unfriendly, EXCEPT along the canals and flood control basins, where bike trails go for miles and miles. If you live near a canal and also work near one, you probably could bicycle to work even if you had to go quite a distance. But say your prayers before trying to ride a bike on the streets.
For the same reason, scooters are wildly unsafe here. I can’t imagine riding one of those things on the city streets. Might as well wear a sign that says “Please wallop me!”
Haha.. I live in Jakarta, Indonesia, and as like most south east asian cities (and some east asian cities) as traffic jam and (more) expensive public transportation cost rises, we are forced to use motorcycles to go to work (no, not the ones u used to see, its a smaller version, fit for asian ppls). Yes its hot, polluted, and dirty when riding, but it saves a lot of money and environment. A 100-125cc motorbike used only US$ 20 monthly for 45 miles commuting ride 5 days a week. For maintenance, it only costs you US$ 15 bi-monthly..
I can’t imagine using a car to go to work on daily basis, I only use it on saturdays and sundays.
For me, its more on the cost issue, not the environmental issues.
I love my scooter. I got it two years ago and have about 10,000 miles on it.
A few things:
* Scooters are motorcycles. Take a motorcycle safety class. Most of these qualify you for your motorcycle endorsement automatically.
* You get what you pay for. Don’t buy a cheap plastic Chinese scooter off eBay only to have it break down in 700 miles.
* Financially, you have to ride a LOT of miles to pay off a scooter.
I didn’t read all the comments above, so if these have been mentioned before, sorry for the repeat.
About the time I realized that 90% of the time I was getting in the car alone, we bought a small motorcycle that gets about 100 MPG!!!
Though gas prices went up a dollar, and I started driving more, our gas budget hasn’t budged. WOOT!
I wrote about this very subject last month on my blog http://www.frugalsister.com/2008/06/public-transportation_16.html .
I know that the busses are getting more and more full. I even shortened my drive to 4.5 miles to the nearest buss stop. I have also started looking for a veterinarian closer to my home.
I tried leaving a comment, but I guess it didn’t go through the first time.
I wrote about this a couple of months ago on my blog. http://www.frugalsister.com/2008/06/public-transportation_16.html
I have found that I can catch the bus closer to home and now only drive 4.5 miles to the bus stop. Every week I see new people riding the bus and more on a regular basis.
I am also looking for a veterinarian closer to my home to save on gas.
Several people have argued that biking isn’t unsafe, then cited urban scenarios. Rural areas can actually be more risky in some cases than a big city.
For example, my commute is only 10 miles away on rural back roads, but the route goes by several quarries and cement factories. Riding a bike through there would involve sharing the road with dump trucks and tractor trailers on one-lane roads with blind S-curves and no shoulder. Even in a car, I’ve been nearly run off the road by a tractor trailer crossing the double yellow line to pass me with oncoming traffic in sight.
Kudos to any bikers in NYC, Boston, or what have you, but their transportation grid is a whole different ball game.
We had planned a year ago to replace one of our cars or sell both and get a larger car. Not anymore. Now we’re keeping our gas sippers and instead we’re going to rent when we need a larger car. Also while we plan on kids with a four door corolla we’re okay for a bit until maybe two kids.
Due to traffic, the price of parking in town, the insurance discount I get from driving fewer than 7500 miles a year, and the convenient dedicated bussway, I take public transit.
I do drive less now. I consider the actual cost of the miles I’m putting on my car and realize that a drive to go see my family out in the boonies costs about $10 round-trip, even in my Civic.
My partner’s diesel golf gets 44 MPG. We take that out whenever we’re going to the same place, and he uses it as his work car, since the bus will cost him roughly the same and take longer.
I’d like to see the Ford Fiesta come to the US. It’s supposed to get 70 MPG on diesel, which beats the cost of a Prius.
We have a smart fourtwo dealer down the road. I considered switching, but the only advantage would be that I can fit two in my 10×16 garage.
One thing that can be done is to stop driving to places for ‘deals’ when the cost of gas exceeds the savings. I see people making this mistake a lot.
In my case, it worked out for the better. There are several restaurants 7-10 miles from my work, including some cheaper ones where I can spend $8-$9. There is also an expensive, touristy seafood place down the street where I can eat for $14-$18. I had been driving to the cheaper restaurants. However it struck me theres a hidden cost of almost a gallon of gas (~$4) to doing so. When you factor that in, it’s $12-$13 vs. $14-18. When I realized it’s only a few more dollars to get a great seafood meal than I just stopped driving there.
Hi J.D.,
I have definitely seen a change in driving patterns and commuter behavior in my area. I’ve written a couple of posts discussing it here:
Gas Price Induced Behavior and
Gas Price Induced Behavior Pt II
I too am seeing more public transit usage, different types of vehicles being driven and more walking/biking. I also speculate that we will see changes in community design.
I live in NYC and have seen a huge increase of riders on the subway (hint: more crowded trains). People are riding taxis less frequently and taking the subway/train (LIRR, MetroNorth, PATH) more often now. It’s still difficult to find a parking spot in Manhattan though.
I live in Phoenix, AZ. I have considered a motorcycle, or carpooling, but that is about it. Bikes are pretty scary to ride in this city. I used to bike and take the bus when I was in college and I remember at least two times in one year (just off the top of my head) when I was almost struck down by people who aren’t used to seeing pedestrians. My theory is that because 4 months out of the year are so hot, everyone wants to stay in A/C cars whenever possible. Personally, I hate the idea of public transportation if it means I have to be outside in 110 degree heat in June through August!!!
A Prius or motorcycle is the best alternatives to high gas prices over here, IMHO. I have to take my middle child to school every morning, so that outs the motorcycle (she’s 5). And while the Prius is tempting, I did just pay off my Pontiac Grand Am. I think saving the $180 a month in car payments is worth just as much, if not more, than the fuel savings if I bought a Prius.
I commute via motorcycle, so I haven’t changed my habits at all. I have noticed a greater number of motorcycles and “super” scooters (600 cc +) on the freeways in the past few months.
A few things I haven’t seen mentioned yet. It’s legal to ride motorcycles in the HOV lanes everywhere in the U.S. Just bypassing the stop and go congestion can save you a lot of money in fuel, not to mention the pollution from idling in traffic. Also, make sure you’ve got good riding gear. I ride year round in metro Seattle, but to do that I make sure I have water resistant riding gear, a full face helmet and electric clothing for when the temperature drops.
I ride in one of these: http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/Roadcrafter-One-Piece-Suit-p-16133.html
Yes, it’s kind of expensive. But it will pay for itself should I ever take a slide on the pavement.
And I also encourage anyone looking to ride a motorcycle or scooter to take a safety course before making the investment. Many courses provide the motorcycles/scooters for the class, so you can get a feel for what it will be like before you spend thousands of dollars.
Thanks for this timely article JD!
I live in Melbourne, Australia and when my partner and I bought our first (rather modest) home earlier in the year, we made sure we bought within 10km of the Central Business District and within walking distance to a train station.
We don’t own a car and wont be getting one until there are more options out there which are fuel-efficient, compact and well-designed.
Saving for a scooter in the meantime and buying our groceries online!
the guys at the gym are a prime example of over exuberance that got us into this credit mess to begin with. people just jump on a bandwagon without doing the math. the premium of buying a hybrid and the mark downs of suv’s effectively eat away the cost difference in gas and then some. sure a scooter may be good on gas, but if you are in a seasonal area, what happens when you can’t ride a scooter and there is no commute? zipcars may seem attractive, especially for people who do not need a car very often; however, i still find renting a car to be much cheaper. it really seems people are diving head first all in the name of saving a buck when in fact they may not be. Like reading the fine print or anything else in life, do the math, figure out what works for you in order to make an informed decision.
@Tim:
Great comment, I really like the view you took on this. I had not quite gone to the point of considering them to be part of the subprime but it makes great sense.
Fun (?) to read that high fuel prices are a global concern. Here in Finland the price of gas is appr. 1,40 € per ltr which makes some $8 per gl. We do have smaller (= less thirsty) cars but the expense for commuting is still quite big.
I live in the countryside and have 50 km’s (over 30 miles) to the office, public transportation is 5 km’s (3 mles) away and is usually not a very usable option. We have two cars, both with small diesel engines, that consume some 5 l/100 km (2.1 gl/100 mi?), but as the kids have left the house, we could cope with only one.
Our recipe to the increasing cost is to drive less, stay home and work out-of-office (I have a 8 Mbps ADSL provided by my employer) as much as possible.
The amount of gas consumed by a car does NOT decrease as a linear function of a car’s MPG.
Thus removing the most fuel-inefficient cars can save much more than buying super efficient hybrids.
For example if you go from 18MPG to 28MPG you will save 198.4 gallons per 10,000 miles. If you go from 34MPG to 50MPG you will save 94.1 gallons per 10,000 miles. Small improvement in the most inefficient cars can get huge benefits, ie. 16MPG to 20MPG will save 125 gallons per 10,000 miles.
Source: Science, Vol. 320, page 1593.
Your crush on the Mini Cooper is not unfounded. They are great on gas. We have one, only because my boyfriend won one in a drawing the year before last. We love it, but you are right: We probably would not have BOUGHT one.
If it wasn’t for him, I’d be carless right now, but I’m grateful to have not only A car, but a car that’s good on gas. My elderly parents are 45 minutes away, his family is several states away, so having the one car does give us peace of mind. Most of the time, we walk to do errands or do things in a loop or on the way home from work to save gas.
Jen M.
@Eric Hollins, I’m with you. The price of gas holding steady between $4 and $5 for a few years would be good for the country.
It’s not so high a price as to cause a total catastrophe, but it’s enough to encourage real change. Not just on an individual level (which can only go so far) but also on a collective level: zoning regulations changing to encourage (rather than discourage) walkable development; communities willing to make greater investments in public transportation; more farmer’s markets & victory gardens, etc.
$4-$5 gas will allow us to make the necessary changes at a manageable pace– lower gas prices will just postpone the inevitable and cause a far greater shock to the system when change becomes unavoidable.
@Tim says “zipcars may seem attractive, especially for people who do not need a car very often; however, i still find renting a car to be much cheaper.”
Really? I’ve found the opposite to be true.
Zipcar rates INCLUDE both gas and insurance. Find me a traditional rental place where you can rent, insure, and buy gas for a car for what Zipcar charges for the same make and model!
The Zipcar locations tend to be more numerous and more convenient. Also, you can pick up and drop off whenever you like– without needing to worry about hours of operation or being forced to rent for multiples of 24 hours. You can rent for 3 hours or 30 hours, and drop the car back off at 3:00am if that’s what fits your schedule.
“Sorry, but that makes no sense. If two kids and “all their stuff” won’t fit in a 4-passenger car, there’s too much “stuff.””
Spoken like someone who’s never had to deal with the hassle of multiple car seats. My state (Massachusetts) recently passed a law requiring children to be in booster seats until they are EIGHT years old! I know frugal parents with three kids who now have to either trade in their sedans/wagons or always take two cars when transporting all the kids - because a car seat and two booster seats WILL NOT fit across the back seat of a small car.
Personally, it bugs me that so many of the laws for children’s safety seem designed to require parents to drive (more) wastefully. I’d love to do a lot more biking for my short-distance errands, but my doctor told me absolutely NO biking while I’m pregnant, and every bike child-seat or trailer I’ve seen carries big warnings not to use it with children under 1 year old. So apparently I’m supposed to give up biking for at least two years and drive everywhere now, because I have become a parent and it would be “irresponsible” of me to get on a bike with my baby.
Back on topic - we haven’t changed our car usage much recently, but we have been constantly looking for ways to save money on our commutes for the last two years (mostly by carpooling). However, my husband is now looking for a new job, and how much it costs to get to a job (whether by car or public transport) will be a big factor in his decision. For any new job, he’ll probably push for at least one day per week of telecommuting. It’s not just about the money, either - with a baby on the way, it would be foolish to get a new job that makes him spend more time away from our family.
i noticed a lot of readers with motorcycles — how wonderful! i too ride a motorcycle — and only a motorcycle. i gave up my car 4 years ago. i have been commuting with a motorcycle for 7 years, the first 4-5 years on a 250 ninja with about 50-60 mpg, and later with an sv650s with 40-50 mpg (the way i ride).
as a result, my transportation habits have not really changed.
i recently wrote up an article on the many financial benefits of riding only a motorcycle over a car. please feel free to read about (and/or comment on) it here, called ‘trimming down expenses with 2 wheels’:
http://tinyurl.com/5rz8e6
If you’re going to a scooter for environmental reasons, keep in mind that though scooters use less gas, they have much less strict emission laws and can emit as much of some pollutants as 90 cars, according to a recent article in Maclean’s Magazine.
JD, Perhaps I should get the old Vespa out of the chicken house and save a few bucks. I think I have to get a motorcycle endorcement on my Alaska drivers license. Just stumbled across your page while looking for mini van on craigs list. Looks good, John
I’m a little alarmed at hearing the refrain of “no bike lanes” cited as a reason for not biking.
One of your previous commenters has it right — you are safest on your bicycle when you treat yourself as a vehicle. That means riding in the street, not on the sidewalks, and bike lanes are less safe than commanding the right lane as if you were in a car. The reason is that when you are in the lane with the cars, they know what your traffic patterns will be; they’re the same as theirs. A predictable cyclist is a safer cyclist. Bike lanes can get you trapped at intersections, as cars try to turn across the bike lane, and generally give a false sense of security. Insecure and new cyclists prefer bike lanes. Veterans know they’re better off avoiding them.
Bike lanes also train car and truck drivers to not share the road — because they feel that when a bike lane isn’t present, cyclists should not be there. It would be better all around to not have bike lanes and to get everyone used to sharing the road from the start instead.
The mileage of motorcycles is not impressive. They typically get 40mpg, which I can get in my civic with careful driving. Scooters that can drive on the highway get maybe twice that, which is nice, but not outstanding; it would take several years to pay for itself. The best scooters get over 120mpg but they are little 2-cylinder jobs that can only reach about 35mph on a flat road; if you reach a hill, you won’t be able to keep up with traffic. Plus, they pollute like crazy despite the mileage.