One thing that prevents me from getting rid of more clutter in my life is the worry that someday, for some reason, I’ll want it again. Maybe I don’t use the rice cooker now, but what if I need it in the future? It’s thinking like this that keeps me from achieving the simple life I long for.
After writing about the idea of having recently, I decided to re-read Your Money or Your Life, one of the best books about personal finance, frugality, and conquering consumerism. In it, authors Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin share an answer to this problem:
[One] individual realized that he had many possessions that he wasn’t using and no longer wanted, but had been hanging on to because he “just might need them someday.” His creative solution was to sell these belongings and set aside the proceeds to be used to replace any of them he might find himself in need of in the future. Meanwhile, his money was earning interest, his life became simpler, and someone who might really need these items was getting use out of them.
This is a fantastic idea. Rather than keep the stuff you aren’t using, you sell it to somebody who will use it, and then stash the proceeds for future use. It’s sort of like “Stuff insurance”.
Last September, Kris and I purged hundreds of books from our shelves. We loaded them into her car and spent a Saturday morning driving around Portland from used bookstore to used bookstore. We sold nearly all of the books, picking up $358 for a couple hours work.
Last year, the money went to retiring my debt, but if I were to do something similar today, I could use the cash to start a new subaccount at ING Direct, a sort of Stuff Replacement Fund. As I sold my comic books, my compact discs, my DVDs, and so on, I could take the proceeds and place them all in the same account, a safeguard against the things I might really need.
Of course, there’s little chance I’ll need any of this Stuff ever again. I have two friends who have been ruthlessly purging clutter for the past couple years, and they say they never long for the things they get rid of. After a few years in this Stuff Replacement Fund, I could simply fold all the money into my normal savings and go on with life.
(Another solution shared by reader Megan P. last August is to purge clutter with a de-accumulation bag.)
This article is about Hints and Tips, Odds and Ends Monday, 15th September 2008 (by J.D. Roth)


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September 15th, 2008 at 5:44 am
Several years ago we moved from a house to a 2 bedroom apartment, and then had 2 kids. Living in a small space is the best incentive I’ve found (besides the process of moving) for purging, which I try to do on a regular basis or we will get smothered in stuff! I have NEVER realized later (even though I swore I would) that I needed something we got rid of. I try to keep this in mind when I de-clutter now.
September 15th, 2008 at 5:50 am
MY HUSBAND AND I RECENTLY HAVE BEEN PURGING LATELY. HE IS A RETIRE SHERIFF AND I WORK PART TIME HAIR AND NAILS STILL. WE ARE SELLING OUR HOME TO GO RVING FULL TIME. YOU CANNOT STORE A WHOLE LOT ON A RV, SO, WE HAVE NOT BOUGHT ANYTHING THAT WE DONT NEED FOR MORE THAN A DAY OR TWO. WE ALSO DONT IMPULSE BUY ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A NEED FOR DUST COLLECTORS. I DONT THINK THE AVERAGE PERSON REALIZES HOW MUCH OF A PACK RAT WE ALL ARE AND WITH HOW LITTLE YOU CAN DO WITHOUT. FOR THE FIRST TIME, I AM NOT OVERSPENDING OR PURCHASING ITEMS I DON’T NEED. IT TAKES SOME TIME TO DO , AFTER IMPULSE BUYING FOR SO LONG. YOU HAVE TO SAY TO YOURSELF DO I REALLY NEED THIS ITEM. CAN I LIVE WITHOUT IT UNTIL I NEED IT. CAN THIS WAIT….REALLY DOES THE TRICK! IF YOU LIMIT ALSO WHAT YOU SPEND AT THE GROCERY STORE TO, ONLY WHAT U WANT FOR TODAY, YOU WONT BUY ITEMS THAT WILL GO BAD .BUY ONLY WHAT U WILL USE FOR THAT DAY..RETRAIN NOT TO BE A PACK RAT LIKE ME! LOL
September 15th, 2008 at 6:01 am
This looks like a good idea. I have accumulated so much stuff thinking I might need it someday. The good thing for me is that I tend to move every year or so from one place to another so I tend to throw away the unneccesary stuff out of necessity- i simply don’t have enough space to move it.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:04 am
I’ll be getting a new laptop via Wachovia’s new “Way2Save” automatic savings account. For each swipe of my debit card, or Bill Pay transaction, Wachovia automatically transfers $1 to my Way2Save savings account.
I don’t miss the money, can’t really rig the system because it’s attached to my debit card, and I calculate I’ll have enough for a new laptop by Christmas.
Coincidence?
I think not
September 15th, 2008 at 6:14 am
This is an awesome post because I am doing EXACTLY this. I am selling my old ipod and some other things to buy a new ipod. I am also getting married soon and me and my fiance are going to sell anything we have of value and put it in a ‘new furniture’ fund.
This is a great post and I write about loads of great ideas on my blog too and I would love for some of your readers to check it out.
Need a guest post anytime soon?
September 15th, 2008 at 6:19 am
We recently moved as well and “got rid” of a bunch of stuff by selling, and what didn’t sell, we put by the side of the road and by the time we moved, it was all gone! And we “purged” a lot!! However, we still have a lot! A lot of books, and knickknacks, and CLOTHES… all stuff we don’t NEED! I guess I should go back through the house with a box, and start putting stuff in the box that can go. That could possibly work out to be a monthly or semi-monthly routine.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:41 am
All this presupposes replacement is easily available.
Having grown up in Rust Belt, I am comfortable having a garage full of stuff I might only use a few times per year, or might need in the future. Especially tools. Sometimes, when you have no cash, having some extra stuff around is pretty helpful. At least, that’s the way it was when I was growing up.
I wish I hadn’t sold my truck.
September 15th, 2008 at 7:05 am
I do this too, and on an even grander scale.
Eventually some of my things will need to be replaced, and I won’t be able to sell the previous version to cover the cost (think a six-year old laptop). So when I buy a computer, I might start a “computer replacement fund” and put $5 a week in it. After six years, not including interest, I’ve got $1500, plenty to buy a new computer by the time the old one’s about to die.
September 15th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Right now I’m renting a townhouse. I’m in school and know I’ll be moving in a year. I have a washer and dryer but the townhouse I’m renting also has a washer and dryer. I think (but don’t know) I’ll need the washer and dryer in my new place in a year. I feel like the washer and dryer and some other stuff are clutter up my townhouse right now. The washer and dryer are three years old and in great condition.
Do I…
1. Sell the washer and dryer and buy new ones when/if I need them in a year.
2. Rent a storage unit and move them and the rest of my clutter into the storage unit.
3. Purchase an inexpensive (<$500) shed and move this stuff into my backyard.
What would you recommend? I’m going to do one of the above options. Living with the extra clutter for a year is something I’ve already decided not to do.
September 15th, 2008 at 7:52 am
I’m getting ready to move to a different state and I’m trying to get my home ready to sell which means a lot of purging! It’s amazing what we accumulate in only 8 years. I’m giving a lot to Goodwill which means a nice tax deduction. I’ve also sold quite a few things and made some extra coin on the side. But this money will not be used to re-aquire new things! I’ve learned my lesson!
September 15th, 2008 at 8:19 am
@Tom:
I’d sell them and replace them later. Who knows what will change between now and then? You definately don’t want to spend money on storage options.
@Dave:
If you have tools you think you legitimately could need, nothing wrong with keeping them. Just be honest with yourself. My dad has a bunch of rifle reloading equipment that he really should dispose of, since he’s 72 and hasn’t had a desire to hunt since 1982. He also has a ton of tools for working on the car — those are legitimate to keep because he still tinkers with his cars occasionally.
My 2 cents.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Re decluttering:
A topic near and dear to my heart. I am really making progress on a multi-year decluttering project. So much so that I don’t have piles of stuff in corners anymore, and my closets have clean floors even when I’m “tidying up” for company. No more stuffing things in and shutting the door on mess.
My apartment comes with a nice sized storage closet on the patio, and even it is amazingly free of clutter. All that’s in there are boxes for moving, my Christmas decorations, a box of houseplant stuff, a toolbox, and two of my dining room chairs.
I’m embarking on another round of purging right now for a yard sale — I’m really getting to the nitty gritty stuff.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:35 am
My big stuff addiction is books. Getting rid of books is hard, because I’m so sure I’ll want to read them really soon (and sometimes I even do read them really soon, or a while later). I work in publishing, so I get new books and review copies for free, and then I spend a bundle on used, rare, and out of print books. I have several thousand books, on shelves and in piles.
My husband, also a reader, recently looked at the stacks of nonfiction books waiting to be shelved in my room. (The fiction library is in the living room.) “What are you doing to do with all of these?” he asked, knowing that I haven’t had much free time for reading lately.
“I’m saving up for my retirement!” I declared. “When I retire, I’ll have time to read them all.”
I’m thirty years old and work in an industry where people generally retire feet first. He and I both know this is a joke. But how do I choose which ones to dump, since it’s not about having the book you need handy so much as having the book you want handy? We’ve already got two overflowing giveaway boxes full of books we didn’t like much or accidentally acquired duplicates of; that’s not the problem. There are treasures that we reread frequently or like having handy to quote from and lend to friends; that’s not the problem either. The problem is the middle 80%, books I genuinely want to read or use for research Someday Soon but sit around gathering dust while waiting for Someday Soon to come.
At the very least I really ought to shelve some of them. The piles are getting to be a bit much.
September 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
i got a few books and dvd’s that i want to get rid of as well.. i might have to do this soon
September 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
TOM:
A washer and dryer are cheap and easy to replace, believe it or not. I would sell them. My husband and I have been able to purchase and sell them so easily over the years.
I have noticed the more I de-clutter surfaces in my home or clean out closets and other storage spaces the more I am opt to not purchase more “stuff”. I am truly sick of running down to the goodwill with bags of donations and I am sick of cleaning…I rather spend my time doing other things than cleaning up “stuff”, storing “stuff”, or maintaining “stuff”. I have almost 2 empty rooms in my house for guests instead of “stuff”. This is what I consider another quality of life decision, giving a friend a place to stay vs. spending time with junk.
September 15th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Oh, JD, this is such superficial decluttering that you always write about. What you need to be concerned w/ is *inner* decluttering. That is primary, and the icing on the cake is it will also transform the clutter of your outer life. As within, so without. Most peoples minds are constantly filled up with the clutter of thoughts, and that is why their external lives are so cluttered as well. So I suggest you start learning everything you can about inner-decluttering, as this will miraculously transform your whole life. Ramana Maharshi, the great sage of India, said that we measure progress in life by the absence of thought, the degree of absence of thought. That’s the best pointer that can be given in a brief blog comment. And if anyone doubts the importance of creating an empty, clean, clutter-free mind, just look to the recent suicide of the genius writer David Foster Wallace. In Wallace’s commencement address to the class of 2005 at Kenyon College, he had this to say:
“Twenty years after my own graduation, I have come gradually to understand that the liberal arts cliché about teaching you how to think is actually shorthand for a much deeper, more serious idea: learning how to think really means learning how to exercise some control over how and what you think. It means being conscious and aware enough to choose what you pay attention to and to choose how you construct meaning from experience. Because if you cannot exercise this kind of choice in adult life, you will be totally hosed. Think of the old cliché about quote the mind being an excellent servant but a terrible master.
This, like many clichés, so lame and unexciting on the surface, actually expresses a great and terrible truth. It is not the least bit coincidental that adults who commit suicide with firearms almost always shoot themselves in the head. They shoot the terrible master. And the truth is that most of these suicides are actually dead long before they pull the trigger.
And I submit that this is what the real, no bullshit value of your liberal arts education is supposed to be about: how to keep from going through your comfortable, prosperous, respectable adult life dead, unconscious, a slave to your head.”
September 15th, 2008 at 9:46 am
I have stuff purges every so often, but give away my stuff rather than sell it. I think if I had to go through the hassle of selling it it’d never get out of the house!
September 15th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Kinda OT - I like to purge books now and then, but the bookshop gives me .40 € each…
Are you paid more for yours?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:24 am
I am an Absolutely Ruthless Purger, lol! It is such a liberating experience, once you get into it.
One other tip that works well for me - I now have a “One In, One Out” rule for most items in my house. It not only keeps clutter at bay, but slows my purchasing. For instance, if I see a book I want to buy, I think, “OK, which book will I get rid of in its place?”.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:26 am
This is a great idea! While I will be on a year-long purge in hopes of putting any money towards my wedding next summer, from one comic book fan to another, do you have any recommendations on where to sell of individual issues that are just taking up space?
These aren’t entire runs on any series, maybe an issue or three picked up out of curiosity. I’ve found that these don’t sell as well on eBay and I’m thinking about listing some on Amazon…but we’re talking about a LOT of random comics.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:28 am
maybe a good article for your blog would be a round up what kind of selling options are out there are. maybe talk to people/do a little research into stuff that isn’t all that obvious. selling stuff through Craig’s List often seems as random as standing in the middle of a mall shouting HAY WANNA BUY THIS? yard sales aren’t necessarily popular in many neighborhoods, we’ve all heard nightmare stories about ebay, and placing ads in printed papers is basically Craig’s List with added expense. amazon storefronts are a possibility but they seem kind of pricey. assuming you’ve already sold all your books to the local bookstores and are looking to get rid of random things (something like vintage china in mint condition or a t.v. set), what do you do?
something to think about.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
I love this idea. It makes so much sense!
September 15th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
I agree with whosbuying- sometimes it seems hard to figure out how to sell some things. I have an entire set of expensive(to buy) unused china(inherited) and some old(50’s) toys but not in perfect condition( I probably have a buyer for the trains).
September 15th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Andrea and whosbuying — I’ve been thinking about doing a post on the best way to sell your stuff. I’ll try to fast-track it…
September 15th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Brilliant idea!
September 15th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Yes please JD! I recently did the yard sale thing, took the CDs, DVDs, books and video games to a used place, but I’ve still got a lot of stuff that’s “too good to throw away”.
September 15th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
I like JD’s idea a whole lot. It is a compromise that is liveable - since I have trouble getting rid of useful stuff I don’t use - I could live with this.
Re selling books - I just recently came across: http://www.cash4books.net. You enter the ISBN and if they are buying they tell you how much they will give for it - AND they send a postage paid slip to you and you mail. You still have to buy the jiffy bags I suppose, but a good deal if you have a lot of books - and you get to skip the amazon hassle.
September 15th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Those of you wanting tips on what to *do* with your stuff, check out Trent’s latest post at The Simple Dollar: Ten ways to declutter and put cash in your pocket. It doesn’t really go into specifics, but it might give you some ideas. I’ll work on a post with some of my suggestions.
September 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
we still have mechanic’s tools that are very useful, and an extra car that is currently being used because the usual car is broken again. these things repeatedly prove they are worth keeping. an extra set of tires for one car, too.
other than that, i think we’re at the leanest we’ve ever been. we had to sell things to pay bills, so putting the money away wasn’t an option. but we (particularly my husband, who’s attached to “stuff”) haven’t even had time to miss it.
September 15th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Dave - if you regularly use things, even a few times a year, they’re not clutter.
I prefer to get rid of excess crap by donating it, since I don’t often have spare actual cash to give to charity. But this strikes me as a FANTASTIC way to handle a packrat spouse whose reaction to throwing out mouse-gnawed bits of old string is “but what if we need it someday?!” Showing them that there is actual money to replace it someday, should it ever be needed, neatly takes care of that argument.
And then you can go onto the real argument, which is that it causes them great mental pain to throw things away. But it dispenses with the financial misdirection.
September 15th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
@Andrea: if your china is expensive or a well known brand there are websites that will buy them off you to sell on to people trying to replace that one cracked plate from their collection. I don’t have any sites to hand but if you do a google on your china brand you should find them. Also, ebay can work quite well for that.
September 15th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
That’s a good idea for a seperate account to save up for stuff. I am big into electronics so I need to setup an account to save for that.
September 15th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I started removing clutter (physically and mentally) recently - http://snurl.com/3qmoy. So I have been thinking of doing the same with my books, which I keep on view in my living room thinking that I may need it. Also my wife has a lot of magazines that was gifted to her which she refuses to get rid of. Nice post and timely one for me.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
I think this is a fantastic idea and a good way to look at letting go of the unessentials in life.
However, what about the things we collect that have little monetary value, but have associated memories or are irreplaceable. I am sure most of us have stuff like that - e.g. I have book collections of specific authors I like (like Stephen King, Asimov) most of which I purchased used at very low prices. I have had to move twice in the last 3 years and these books are still in cartons, so I’m tempted to simply donate to a library/sell them.
Would it be worth doing that for reducing clutter in my life? I won’t make any money doing so and I definitely can’t buy them back with what I’ll get (many are out of print). Thats what holding me back! I think I may just have to bite the bullet and just do it.
September 16th, 2008 at 5:50 am
I live by “Love, Don’t Love” meaning I surround myself with the things I really love. Things that give me a “meh” feeling get redistributed to friends, through freecycle.org or Craigslist, or if I have that “meh” feeling but have a sentimental feeling about something I reserve the right to keep it.
Keeping a lot of “stuff” is tantamount to hoarding, to my way of thinking. If I’m not using it, I very well may be depriving someone else from the joy or relief of having it. It really is a freeing experience to have your burden lifted by separating from so much stuff.
September 16th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Brilliant!
We did this years ago and may be my #1 favorite personal finance tip. (Another favorite is only buying a new article of clothing if you donate an old one. Really cuts down on closet clutter, forces you do an inventory before you shop, and ask “do I really need another black skirt?”).
An additional advantage to the appliance fund is that when it comes time to replace a pricy machine (i.e. our 18+ year-old television for an HD), we can flash cash and get a deep discount. Or …. walk away. It’s positively liberating to be in control of a big purchase!
September 16th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I’m seeing a lot of comments about having to de-clutter every month or two. Once you get rid of the junk, shouldn’t you also try to keep yourself from acquiring more junk? I’ve been somewhat of a minimalist for a while now (I became one because I used to be poor, not as an idealist, but it works very well now too, especially for keeping money in my pocket) and, like most things that require maintenance, the first step is prevention.
I can’t say I’m perfect at it - I love books and love keeping them around - but I think that some tips on preventing/breaking cluttering habits would be a great companion to this post.
September 16th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
I confess I rolled my eyes when I read the beginning of this post because it just seeemed like another way to put off decluttering stuff that is weighing you down, because how many people are going to actually create a replacement fund? So I was happy to see you conclude at the end, J.D., that you’d probably just end up rolling your replacement fund into other savings because you’d decide you wouldn’t need those things after all. I really liked “Your Money or Your Life,” but I had forgotten about that concept. The reality is that most people won’t be interested in or need to replace what they get rid of. And, the majority of the things we get rid of (certainly not appliances or most tools) are items we can buy inexpensively if we really need them ever again. Often they are even things we can pick up at Goodwill (e.g., extra colander) or other inexpensive retail stores. Books we can check out of the library or buy ourselves at the discount places like half.com. Per Andrew’s comment, the fact is that once these items are gone, we should be much more picky about what we bring into our homes. I know I, like many others, have trouble with getting new (or new to me) books, but you won’t catch any of those cutesy decorative dust collectors ever coming into my house again. (So, I am learning! LOL) As for books I’d already read and will never read again, those are gone and it was a huge relief to have them gone. (So, Extra Crispy, let those books go … you won’t be sorry.)
Last, I know I have posted about Flylady before and I’ve done so because she has helped many folks to declutter. However, I appreciate that some of you may not be interested. However, do consider her upcoming Super Fling Boogie. A super fling boogie is part of the normal routines she encourages, but the one on her site occurs a few times a year when you decide to really once and for all let stuff go. It doesn’t matter if you give it away, trash it, or sell it. The point is it’s out of your life. The next Super Fling Boogie starts on Sept. 22 and at that time you’ll be able to go to this link and post the pounds you’ve gotten rid of. Let me tell you, this action is incredibly motivating. You can estimate the lbs or weigh smaller items on your scale. And, anything goes … from ancient stuff in your freezer to that junk car in your side yard. You only post the lbs, not the item descriptions, but she also collects emails about the weirdest things “flung” and they are hysterical (e.g., false teeth from a long dead relative, stuff that you have no idea what it is that came with your home, the pregnancy test kit strip from your child who is now 25). Just something to consider if you need motivation. I know I am thrilled to have this extra incentive to dig a little deeper on purging. I am getting ready to start a home business and I want to clear out even more that no longer has personal value to me.
http://flylady.net/pages/sfb_meter_1.asp
September 18th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Interesting concept. I kind of like it. Though usually when we get rid of our books we end up getting something like $4 for a big stack of them… I often just haul stuff off to Goodwill, just to be done with it, so I don’t know if this would be practical for me, but it’s an interesting concept nonetheless.
October 9th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I used to purchase Summer toys like life jackets, tubes, tents, backpacks, and the like. We’d use the stuff for a trip or two, and then I’d eBay the stuff. Yes, I paid full retail price and received less than that. I figured my cost was a “rental fee”. Selling is a bigger pain these days, so I stopped doing it. But there are always yard sales.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:41 am
You might find this video about four people who are possessed with their possessions interesting:
http://www.vimeo.com/603058
November 21st, 2009 at 7:25 am
FranticWoman has a great idea for de cluttering and putting extra cash in your pocket.
There is another site http://sellit2us.com that buys not only books but CDs, DVDs Video games and Software. You might make more on eBay but this would be a lot less hassle.