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		<title>By: Marketing Beep</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-155102</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Beep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t believe that as some suggest that I can’t enjoy TV, I have to cancel all my magazine subscriptions and that I can’t listen to the radio. How about people getting some self-control and call it a day? I think the last point in the post about spending mindfully is all that is needed. Yes, I’ve bought things b/c of ads, but I did so after weighing the pros and cons (pros: having it, cons: giving up money) and deciding if I really wanted it and needed it. I’m a woman, and I subscribe to 8 magazines with expensive items in them, but I only buy clothes maybe once a month, if that, and I only shop sales and clearance racks. Ask my husband – he’ll tell you I’m not lying! It can be done with some self-control. Setting spending limits also helps – I spend no more than $25 on a top (and I really have to love it to spend over $20), $30 on jeans and $40 on shoes. I’m not saying ads don’t affect everyone, including myself; it’s just how it affects people that’s the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t believe that as some suggest that I can’t enjoy TV, I have to cancel all my magazine subscriptions and that I can’t listen to the radio. How about people getting some self-control and call it a day? I think the last point in the post about spending mindfully is all that is needed. Yes, I’ve bought things b/c of ads, but I did so after weighing the pros and cons (pros: having it, cons: giving up money) and deciding if I really wanted it and needed it. I’m a woman, and I subscribe to 8 magazines with expensive items in them, but I only buy clothes maybe once a month, if that, and I only shop sales and clearance racks. Ask my husband – he’ll tell you I’m not lying! It can be done with some self-control. Setting spending limits also helps – I spend no more than $25 on a top (and I really have to love it to spend over $20), $30 on jeans and $40 on shoes. I’m not saying ads don’t affect everyone, including myself; it’s just how it affects people that’s the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: La BellaDonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>La BellaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may spend a lot of time rolling my eyes - and I do - but I use advertising as a research tool.  For the person who opted for a bucket and mop, bless you; it&#039;s great if it meets your needs.  I used a bucket and mop for years, and for me, the Swiffer Wet Jet meets my needs.  And I&#039;ll look at Vogue magazine once a year or so, because I love science fiction, but I&#039;ll buy that $2000 sweater after someone drops it off at the thrift store because it&#039;s lost a button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may spend a lot of time rolling my eyes &#8211; and I do &#8211; but I use advertising as a research tool.  For the person who opted for a bucket and mop, bless you; it&#8217;s great if it meets your needs.  I used a bucket and mop for years, and for me, the Swiffer Wet Jet meets my needs.  And I&#8217;ll look at Vogue magazine once a year or so, because I love science fiction, but I&#8217;ll buy that $2000 sweater after someone drops it off at the thrift store because it&#8217;s lost a button.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-151555</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so I admit I didn&#039;t read all of the comments (there are 87!), but I am currently battling three major problem areas in my life: weight/fitness, finances, and clutter.  Mostly to fight clutter, but with insulating myself from advertising (and spending $) in mind, I&#039;ve been slowly unsubscribing from all promotional e-mails I receive.  Even for reasonably priced, quality things (LandsEnd, for instance).  I see a sale and think I&#039;m missing an opportunity to save money, when in reality, I&#039;m gaining an opportunity to spend (even if less than MSRP).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so I admit I didn&#8217;t read all of the comments (there are 87!), but I am currently battling three major problem areas in my life: weight/fitness, finances, and clutter.  Mostly to fight clutter, but with insulating myself from advertising (and spending $) in mind, I&#8217;ve been slowly unsubscribing from all promotional e-mails I receive.  Even for reasonably priced, quality things (LandsEnd, for instance).  I see a sale and think I&#8217;m missing an opportunity to save money, when in reality, I&#8217;m gaining an opportunity to spend (even if less than MSRP).</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-149202</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it from a recovering shopping addict, it&#039;s better to avoid advertising and replace &quot;retail therapy&quot; with low-cost entertainment.  I have not given up TV, but I do mute commercials and regularly remind myself that nothing for sale can make me happy for long.  I&#039;ll watch Oprah when she has guests or topics I care about, but I never want to see another &quot;Favorite Things&quot; episode.  Talk about an hour-long commercial! 

One show worth watching is MadMen on AMC.  By exploring the duplicity and hollow lives of 1960s advertising executives, it exposes the manipulation and greed that still fuel Madison Avenue.  It&#039;s an Emmy-winning drama, and even the product placements are vintage and therefore pretty harmless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it from a recovering shopping addict, it&#8217;s better to avoid advertising and replace &#8220;retail therapy&#8221; with low-cost entertainment.  I have not given up TV, but I do mute commercials and regularly remind myself that nothing for sale can make me happy for long.  I&#8217;ll watch Oprah when she has guests or topics I care about, but I never want to see another &#8220;Favorite Things&#8221; episode.  Talk about an hour-long commercial! </p>
<p>One show worth watching is MadMen on AMC.  By exploring the duplicity and hollow lives of 1960s advertising executives, it exposes the manipulation and greed that still fuel Madison Avenue.  It&#8217;s an Emmy-winning drama, and even the product placements are vintage and therefore pretty harmless.</p>
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		<title>By: marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have NO TV, no large paper just the local weekly with the grocery ads in it, and no magazines. Radio is a local rural station - smalltown - not a big city with lots of ads.

Therefore, it&#039;s fairly easy to avoid most of the ads.

I ask myself - why in the world would I need that?  And if I really do &#039;need&#039; it, is there a less expensive option - which there most always is :)

Also a big subscriber to the &quot;your money or your life&quot; theory... meaning how many hours/days do I have to work to pay for this? Sometimes it&#039;s just not worth it in time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have NO TV, no large paper just the local weekly with the grocery ads in it, and no magazines. Radio is a local rural station &#8211; smalltown &#8211; not a big city with lots of ads.</p>
<p>Therefore, it&#8217;s fairly easy to avoid most of the ads.</p>
<p>I ask myself &#8211; why in the world would I need that?  And if I really do &#8216;need&#8217; it, is there a less expensive option &#8211; which there most always is <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also a big subscriber to the &#8220;your money or your life&#8221; theory&#8230; meaning how many hours/days do I have to work to pay for this? Sometimes it&#8217;s just not worth it in time!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate@LivingTheFrugalLife</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-149177</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate@LivingTheFrugalLife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree.  Covetousness is a very real phenomenon that leads us to spend unnecessarily, and advertising leads directly and indirectly to covetousness.  It really is true that if we just don&#039;t expose ourselves to advertising, we&#039;re just as happy spending $0.  In fact, I&#039;d argue that we&#039;re in fact happier.

So kill your tv, get yourself off every single catalog mailing list, and stop reading &quot;lifestyle&quot; magazines.  Stay out of malls.  It&#039;ll do wonders, truly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree.  Covetousness is a very real phenomenon that leads us to spend unnecessarily, and advertising leads directly and indirectly to covetousness.  It really is true that if we just don&#8217;t expose ourselves to advertising, we&#8217;re just as happy spending $0.  In fact, I&#8217;d argue that we&#8217;re in fact happier.</p>
<p>So kill your tv, get yourself off every single catalog mailing list, and stop reading &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; magazines.  Stay out of malls.  It&#8217;ll do wonders, truly.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-149054</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got it right, you have to avoid advertising - particularly for those things that push your buttons - like the plague. Some things that help me: 

Listen to public radio or iPod in the car.

Always watch TV shows pre-recorded so I can skip through commercials...even sports.

Stay out of the malls unless you have a purpose...no aimless browsing.

If you must indulge in shopping do it online. Make a point of comparing all the pros and cons before buying. Often this is enough of a shopping fix that I don&#039;t have to pull the trigger, or I&#039;m unsure of what I really want so I wait a bit.

Buy online knowing that your purchase will be several days away from delivery. The anticipation can be satisfying, and you won&#039;t buy on impulse like you might at the mall.

Avoid in particular advertising, magazines, or blogs for things you know you don&#039;t need/can&#039;t afford like (for me) new cars and new computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got it right, you have to avoid advertising &#8211; particularly for those things that push your buttons &#8211; like the plague. Some things that help me: </p>
<p>Listen to public radio or iPod in the car.</p>
<p>Always watch TV shows pre-recorded so I can skip through commercials&#8230;even sports.</p>
<p>Stay out of the malls unless you have a purpose&#8230;no aimless browsing.</p>
<p>If you must indulge in shopping do it online. Make a point of comparing all the pros and cons before buying. Often this is enough of a shopping fix that I don&#8217;t have to pull the trigger, or I&#8217;m unsure of what I really want so I wait a bit.</p>
<p>Buy online knowing that your purchase will be several days away from delivery. The anticipation can be satisfying, and you won&#8217;t buy on impulse like you might at the mall.</p>
<p>Avoid in particular advertising, magazines, or blogs for things you know you don&#8217;t need/can&#8217;t afford like (for me) new cars and new computers.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeVx</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148846</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeVx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always loathed ads as far back as I can remember. They disrupted my TV programs, wasted space in my magazines, and so forth.  When I bought my first VCR I stopped watching TV in real time and FF-zapped the pesky ads.  I have so many filters on my computer that using other peoples computers for web surfing is unbearable.  In some cases web sites are 98% ads by volume without filters.  Eek!

After TV went advertising-only a decade or so back (those logos count), I dropped it.  No satellite, no cable, (semi-true, I have a limited TV service with my current cable company because Internet-only is more expensive, but I don&#039;t watch it, my new provider for internet does not require a tied service, they&#039;re due out in two weeks) I might have an old antenna somewhere, but it&#039;s probably rusted into oblivion.  DVDs and web-shows for me.

To me, advertising=fraud.  I often make decisions based on advertising I&#039;ve been unfortunate enough to encounter.  If I can remember an ad about a product, I&#039;m much less likely to consider buying it.  I only get two magazines, one I pay for for the value of the non-ad content (about 25% of the pages) and one I don&#039;t even bother to read because I did not subscribe to it.  My telephone company paid for a subscription for me.  I assume that it&#039;s an ad-book, I haven&#039;t actually opened one any farther than extracting it from it&#039;s plastic mailing sleeve and chucking it in the recycle bin.

Sometimes, if I&#039;m looking for something, I&#039;ll look through a catalog that deals with that sort of thing and see if they have anything I can use.  In that sense, advertising can sell me something, but only if I was looking for it at the moment the ad came by.  I will usually run a web search when I am looking for something.

I freely admit to being a cheapskate.  I need a reason to buy something.  My reason, not the sellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always loathed ads as far back as I can remember. They disrupted my TV programs, wasted space in my magazines, and so forth.  When I bought my first VCR I stopped watching TV in real time and FF-zapped the pesky ads.  I have so many filters on my computer that using other peoples computers for web surfing is unbearable.  In some cases web sites are 98% ads by volume without filters.  Eek!</p>
<p>After TV went advertising-only a decade or so back (those logos count), I dropped it.  No satellite, no cable, (semi-true, I have a limited TV service with my current cable company because Internet-only is more expensive, but I don&#8217;t watch it, my new provider for internet does not require a tied service, they&#8217;re due out in two weeks) I might have an old antenna somewhere, but it&#8217;s probably rusted into oblivion.  DVDs and web-shows for me.</p>
<p>To me, advertising=fraud.  I often make decisions based on advertising I&#8217;ve been unfortunate enough to encounter.  If I can remember an ad about a product, I&#8217;m much less likely to consider buying it.  I only get two magazines, one I pay for for the value of the non-ad content (about 25% of the pages) and one I don&#8217;t even bother to read because I did not subscribe to it.  My telephone company paid for a subscription for me.  I assume that it&#8217;s an ad-book, I haven&#8217;t actually opened one any farther than extracting it from it&#8217;s plastic mailing sleeve and chucking it in the recycle bin.</p>
<p>Sometimes, if I&#8217;m looking for something, I&#8217;ll look through a catalog that deals with that sort of thing and see if they have anything I can use.  In that sense, advertising can sell me something, but only if I was looking for it at the moment the ad came by.  I will usually run a web search when I am looking for something.</p>
<p>I freely admit to being a cheapskate.  I need a reason to buy something.  My reason, not the sellers.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD, I&#039;ve been thinking about this issue a lot lately.  I&#039;m in Camp Bucca in Southern Iraq, with very little to do in my off time other than read magazines, which I never do at home.  I read whatever people send me in care packages, many of which are &quot;Glamour&quot; and &quot;In-Style&quot; type magazines, the pages of which are essentially FILLED with ads.  The magaines have articles like, &quot;our favorite 100 cosmetic products&quot; or &quot;blue jeans you can&#039;t live with out.&quot;  I am always yelling accross the room to my roommate, &quot;Who needs a $2000 sweater?!?!&quot;  In fact, I think I did this yesterday.  Very timely post for me!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD, I&#8217;ve been thinking about this issue a lot lately.  I&#8217;m in Camp Bucca in Southern Iraq, with very little to do in my off time other than read magazines, which I never do at home.  I read whatever people send me in care packages, many of which are &#8220;Glamour&#8221; and &#8220;In-Style&#8221; type magazines, the pages of which are essentially FILLED with ads.  The magaines have articles like, &#8220;our favorite 100 cosmetic products&#8221; or &#8220;blue jeans you can&#8217;t live with out.&#8221;  I am always yelling accross the room to my roommate, &#8220;Who needs a $2000 sweater?!?!&#8221;  In fact, I think I did this yesterday.  Very timely post for me!!</p>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cv: &quot;I wonder a bit about people who claim that advertising has no effect on them. My worry isn’t that I’ll buy the $2,000 sweater, it’s that if I look at a lot of $2,000 sweaters I’ll end up buying an $80 sweater instead of a $50 sweater when I go shopping (...)&quot;
Not necessarily. The trick here is to have a clear idea of how much an item is worth to you, basically, appreciate the value of money. This is why I think advertising has no effect on me in terms of make me spend more money than I want - having come from another country and having started in the US from nothing, I really appreciate the value of money. I wouldn&#039;t spend $80 on a sweater - and earning 100K and having no debt, I can easily afford it - because a sweater isn&#039;t worth to me as much as $80 in the bank. 

Also, seeing really expensive items sometimes has a completely opposite effect on me - it prevents my buying a cheaper version at all. For example, I may see a really expensive jewelry item that I absolutely love, but wouldn&#039;t buy because I cannot afford it or just don&#039;t want to spend the money. Then I see something cheaper that I could afford, but it just looks so uninteresting in comparison, that I end up not buying anything at all. This is a pretty common situation with me, by the way: I don&#039;t buy one thing because I cannot afford it (or don&#039;t want to) and I don&#039;t buy a cheaper item because after seeing the first one, the cheaper version looks pale in comparison. 

Not to say that ads may not influence my decision - assuming I was already planning to spend the money. If I am already planning going somewhere on vacation and happen to see an ad for a cruise, and it looks good, and the cost is inline with what I normally spend on vacation, I may go for it -  after considering it and comparing the cost/itinerary with other vacation possibilities. In this case, the ad may have helped me find a better deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cv: &#8220;I wonder a bit about people who claim that advertising has no effect on them. My worry isn’t that I’ll buy the $2,000 sweater, it’s that if I look at a lot of $2,000 sweaters I’ll end up buying an $80 sweater instead of a $50 sweater when I go shopping (&#8230;)&#8221;<br />
Not necessarily. The trick here is to have a clear idea of how much an item is worth to you, basically, appreciate the value of money. This is why I think advertising has no effect on me in terms of make me spend more money than I want &#8211; having come from another country and having started in the US from nothing, I really appreciate the value of money. I wouldn&#8217;t spend $80 on a sweater &#8211; and earning 100K and having no debt, I can easily afford it &#8211; because a sweater isn&#8217;t worth to me as much as $80 in the bank. </p>
<p>Also, seeing really expensive items sometimes has a completely opposite effect on me &#8211; it prevents my buying a cheaper version at all. For example, I may see a really expensive jewelry item that I absolutely love, but wouldn&#8217;t buy because I cannot afford it or just don&#8217;t want to spend the money. Then I see something cheaper that I could afford, but it just looks so uninteresting in comparison, that I end up not buying anything at all. This is a pretty common situation with me, by the way: I don&#8217;t buy one thing because I cannot afford it (or don&#8217;t want to) and I don&#8217;t buy a cheaper item because after seeing the first one, the cheaper version looks pale in comparison. </p>
<p>Not to say that ads may not influence my decision &#8211; assuming I was already planning to spend the money. If I am already planning going somewhere on vacation and happen to see an ad for a cruise, and it looks good, and the cost is inline with what I normally spend on vacation, I may go for it &#8211;  after considering it and comparing the cost/itinerary with other vacation possibilities. In this case, the ad may have helped me find a better deal.</p>
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		<title>By: CoolProducts</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoolProducts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading you post, I clicked on the provided link for Filson to see what you meant by an &quot;expensive&quot; shirt. You weren&#039;t kidding. And then I noticed something. Underneath the shirt that I had clicked on, other similar items were displayed. Now this isn&#039;t something new or unusual, but most sites, like amazon.com, usually advertise these products with the title of You may like, or others who bought this item liked, etc. Filson on the other hand advertised their similar products under the tag &quot;You may also NEED...&quot;. Really? I need these? I feel that this is completely off base and ultimately alienates me from wanting that product. What do you guys think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading you post, I clicked on the provided link for Filson to see what you meant by an &#8220;expensive&#8221; shirt. You weren&#8217;t kidding. And then I noticed something. Underneath the shirt that I had clicked on, other similar items were displayed. Now this isn&#8217;t something new or unusual, but most sites, like amazon.com, usually advertise these products with the title of You may like, or others who bought this item liked, etc. Filson on the other hand advertised their similar products under the tag &#8220;You may also NEED&#8230;&#8221;. Really? I need these? I feel that this is completely off base and ultimately alienates me from wanting that product. What do you guys think?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My tips for avoiding advertising:
1) No TV. If you want to watch something download it (you quickly realise you don&#039;t want to watch 80% of things you used to watch)
2) Firefox + Adblock Plus = Internet with nearly no advertising
3) Listen to public radio (you can get BBC, CBC, PBS etc. online)
4) Soma FM for music (donation driven)

My partner and I do all of these and find watching the Ads before films painful and watching TV is nearly impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My tips for avoiding advertising:<br />
1) No TV. If you want to watch something download it (you quickly realise you don&#8217;t want to watch 80% of things you used to watch)<br />
2) Firefox + Adblock Plus = Internet with nearly no advertising<br />
3) Listen to public radio (you can get BBC, CBC, PBS etc. online)<br />
4) Soma FM for music (donation driven)</p>
<p>My partner and I do all of these and find watching the Ads before films painful and watching TV is nearly impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;First, that is an incredibly ugly sweater. I don’t see how someone could part with $2k for that thing, cashmere or not.&quot;
Yes, it is an ugly sweater. I wouldn&#039;t buy it for $10.

$2000 for a sweater is ridiculous unless you are a multi-millionaire and this is pocket change for you. Sure I can afford it and even pay for it out of my paycheck without even touching my savings - I earn 100K+ and have no debt. But it&#039;s just ridiculous. Even if it had been the most gorgeous sweater in the world, it&#039;s not like it&#039;ll last forever. Things get warn out, they go out of fashion, you gain weight, you lose weight.

As to cashmere - I bought a really beautiful cashmere sweater at Ann Taylor for $40. It is so much prettier than the one in the picture, and it is also 100% cashmere. I saw it first there when it was $90, decided that it is too expensive, thought it was still too much when it was $70, then $60, then bought it for $40 a month after I first saw it. If it had disappeared in the meantime - I&#039;d thought &quot;great, I saved money&quot;.  

The other day I saw another pretty cashmere jacket for $90. I didn&#039;t buy it - both because I couldn&#039;t bring myself to part with my money (I kind of love money... and yes, I have a credit card, but money is money). Also when you put on the thing it feels a little itchy - it&#039;s a thing with wool stuff. Something that expensive should be perfect. I also couldn&#039;t bring myself to spend $75 on a skirt; although it was also the fact that I gained a couple of pounds and size 5/6 was a bit tight whereas I didn&#039;t want to buy size 7/8 out of principle. If it is still around after I lose weight I might consider it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First, that is an incredibly ugly sweater. I don’t see how someone could part with $2k for that thing, cashmere or not.&#8221;<br />
Yes, it is an ugly sweater. I wouldn&#8217;t buy it for $10.</p>
<p>$2000 for a sweater is ridiculous unless you are a multi-millionaire and this is pocket change for you. Sure I can afford it and even pay for it out of my paycheck without even touching my savings &#8211; I earn 100K+ and have no debt. But it&#8217;s just ridiculous. Even if it had been the most gorgeous sweater in the world, it&#8217;s not like it&#8217;ll last forever. Things get warn out, they go out of fashion, you gain weight, you lose weight.</p>
<p>As to cashmere &#8211; I bought a really beautiful cashmere sweater at Ann Taylor for $40. It is so much prettier than the one in the picture, and it is also 100% cashmere. I saw it first there when it was $90, decided that it is too expensive, thought it was still too much when it was $70, then $60, then bought it for $40 a month after I first saw it. If it had disappeared in the meantime &#8211; I&#8217;d thought &#8220;great, I saved money&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The other day I saw another pretty cashmere jacket for $90. I didn&#8217;t buy it &#8211; both because I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to part with my money (I kind of love money&#8230; and yes, I have a credit card, but money is money). Also when you put on the thing it feels a little itchy &#8211; it&#8217;s a thing with wool stuff. Something that expensive should be perfect. I also couldn&#8217;t bring myself to spend $75 on a skirt; although it was also the fact that I gained a couple of pounds and size 5/6 was a bit tight whereas I didn&#8217;t want to buy size 7/8 out of principle. If it is still around after I lose weight I might consider it.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148623</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ed&lt;/b&gt; wrote: &lt;i&gt;I thought this post was good, but I couldn’t get over the fact that you were going to buy one shirt for $75.&lt;/i&gt;

Heh. I usually buy my clothes at Costco or Goodwill, so this was way outside the norm for me. But I love Filson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ed</b> wrote: <i>I thought this post was good, but I couldn’t get over the fact that you were going to buy one shirt for $75.</i></p>
<p>Heh. I usually buy my clothes at Costco or Goodwill, so this was way outside the norm for me. But I love Filson.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisSC</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148621</link>
		<dc:creator>DennisSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CarrieK -- that is a great thing to do, relevant not only to shopping but, perhaps even more important to scurrilous political ads, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CarrieK &#8212; that is a great thing to do, relevant not only to shopping but, perhaps even more important to scurrilous political ads, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: CarrieK</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148620</link>
		<dc:creator>CarrieK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is especially important to teach your kids how to inoculate themselves against advertising. It&#039;s disgusting how much money is spent targeting kids. I know families who choose to homeschool so their kids will have less exposure to pop culture and it&#039;s exposure to advertising. When I taught 1st grade in a small district in CA, the language arts standards came up for review. Hands down, the parents on the review committee wanted curriculum dealing w/advertising added to the standards. It took the form of critical thinking. We taught the kids to look at every ad critically; to turn it into a game where first you try to guess what is being sold, then pretend to be the advertiser and guess what you are trying to get someone to buy. On the rare occasion when I watch TV with my 3 and 5 year olds, I mute the commercials or answer their questions about ads with, &quot;they are just trying to get you to spend your money!&quot;. I also try to give them a reality check; do you think that doll/toy/game will really make you stronger/prettier/have more friends?&quot; It leads to good discussions :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is especially important to teach your kids how to inoculate themselves against advertising. It&#8217;s disgusting how much money is spent targeting kids. I know families who choose to homeschool so their kids will have less exposure to pop culture and it&#8217;s exposure to advertising. When I taught 1st grade in a small district in CA, the language arts standards came up for review. Hands down, the parents on the review committee wanted curriculum dealing w/advertising added to the standards. It took the form of critical thinking. We taught the kids to look at every ad critically; to turn it into a game where first you try to guess what is being sold, then pretend to be the advertiser and guess what you are trying to get someone to buy. On the rare occasion when I watch TV with my 3 and 5 year olds, I mute the commercials or answer their questions about ads with, &#8220;they are just trying to get you to spend your money!&#8221;. I also try to give them a reality check; do you think that doll/toy/game will really make you stronger/prettier/have more friends?&#8221; It leads to good discussions <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148619</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this post was good, but I couldn&#039;t get over the fact that you were going to buy one shirt for $75.  That would buy 3 of my normal button down, cotton/ polyester combos. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this post was good, but I couldn&#8217;t get over the fact that you were going to buy one shirt for $75.  That would buy 3 of my normal button down, cotton/ polyester combos. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan McLean</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148617</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan McLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple Mac have such good advertising that I love buying their products. Even though they are over priced they make me feel good and they help me run my business....meh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple Mac have such good advertising that I love buying their products. Even though they are over priced they make me feel good and they help me run my business&#8230;.meh</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148614</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another version of this is when they send you a 20% off one item coupon in the mail or e-mail. You feel like you have to &quot;take advantage&quot; of the discount. The reality is you did not save $20 off a $100 purchase but you SPENT $80 on something you did not plan to buy. Not to mention you might buy more than one item.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another version of this is when they send you a 20% off one item coupon in the mail or e-mail. You feel like you have to &#8220;take advantage&#8221; of the discount. The reality is you did not save $20 off a $100 purchase but you SPENT $80 on something you did not plan to buy. Not to mention you might buy more than one item.</p>
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		<title>By: Filson</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148612</link>
		<dc:creator>Filson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We appreciate the kind words you shared about our product!  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We appreciate the kind words you shared about our product!  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Early Retirement Extreme</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148608</link>
		<dc:creator>Early Retirement Extreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Filson fan here! I got the double mackinaw cruiser (and the associated &quot;sexy&quot; hat). Not doing me much good in CA, but it was terrific in the midwest/east. I have not been able to persuade myself to buy any of the $75 shirts or any of the $100 pants though. Do they really last long enough to justify the price tag? (I kinda think of coats as durables good for 10-20 years and shirts as consumables good for 1-3 years).

What usually happens when I get tempted by email advertising is that I click through. Fill a basket while carefully calculating shipping cost (usually coming in right under the limit for the next step). Then I mull it over, decide I don&#039;t really need it right now, and close the browser. It&#039;s a grand waste of time :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Filson fan here! I got the double mackinaw cruiser (and the associated &#8220;sexy&#8221; hat). Not doing me much good in CA, but it was terrific in the midwest/east. I have not been able to persuade myself to buy any of the $75 shirts or any of the $100 pants though. Do they really last long enough to justify the price tag? (I kinda think of coats as durables good for 10-20 years and shirts as consumables good for 1-3 years).</p>
<p>What usually happens when I get tempted by email advertising is that I click through. Fill a basket while carefully calculating shipping cost (usually coming in right under the limit for the next step). Then I mull it over, decide I don&#8217;t really need it right now, and close the browser. It&#8217;s a grand waste of time <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Melsky</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148604</link>
		<dc:creator>Melsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try hard to avoid as much advertising as possible.  I have mixed feelings though.  I am a painter and I sell art and promote it.  I&#039;m proud of myself for recently starting an innovative new marketing technique and I&#039;m looking forward to my Christmas season sales.  At the same time I deplore the obligatory gift giving and the way that advertising makes us want stuff that we don&#039;t really need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try hard to avoid as much advertising as possible.  I have mixed feelings though.  I am a painter and I sell art and promote it.  I&#8217;m proud of myself for recently starting an innovative new marketing technique and I&#8217;m looking forward to my Christmas season sales.  At the same time I deplore the obligatory gift giving and the way that advertising makes us want stuff that we don&#8217;t really need.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV advertising is not such a big problem in Britain since the BBC has over 50% share and is advert free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV advertising is not such a big problem in Britain since the BBC has over 50% share and is advert free.</p>
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		<title>By: cv</title>
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		<dc:creator>cv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder a bit about people who claim that advertising has no effect on them.  My worry isn&#039;t that I&#039;ll buy the $2,000 sweater, it&#039;s that if I look at a lot of $2,000 sweaters I&#039;ll end up buying an $80 sweater instead of a $50 sweater when I go shopping.  Same thing with looking at $40k cruises - the amenities on the $2k cruise will look crummy by comparison.  The problem isn&#039;t that you&#039;ll buy the luxury item, it&#039;s that it resets your baseline and expectations about what&#039;s reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder a bit about people who claim that advertising has no effect on them.  My worry isn&#8217;t that I&#8217;ll buy the $2,000 sweater, it&#8217;s that if I look at a lot of $2,000 sweaters I&#8217;ll end up buying an $80 sweater instead of a $50 sweater when I go shopping.  Same thing with looking at $40k cruises &#8211; the amenities on the $2k cruise will look crummy by comparison.  The problem isn&#8217;t that you&#8217;ll buy the luxury item, it&#8217;s that it resets your baseline and expectations about what&#8217;s reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148595</link>
		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Inbox is bombarded with all sorts of &quot;Limited Time Offer-Free Shipping-30% off everything&quot; type emails. Where once I would have looked, I just hit delete and send them packing. Not long ago, I would have jumped on the bandwagon and ponied up the credit card number right away. As I creep toward that magical half century mark of age, I have re-evaluated my perceptions of a lot of things. Advertising and keeping up with the Joneses were scrutinized and I have worked hard to avoid both. It can be difficult, but I am very happy to have made the progress that I have. I am largely happy with what I have. And my slowly shrinking debt load would agree.

Since I got my wife on board a few years ago, we don&#039;t care too much what the meighbors have. Where I once would have felt a sense of deprivation at looking at some ads, I now often find a source of amusement. We have raised our son to use critical thinking on matters such as this, he&#039;s 18 now and becoming a somewhat savvy shopper. As he heads off into the world, we can only hope that he keeps his head on straight. He is already way more prepared that I was at that age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Inbox is bombarded with all sorts of &#8220;Limited Time Offer-Free Shipping-30% off everything&#8221; type emails. Where once I would have looked, I just hit delete and send them packing. Not long ago, I would have jumped on the bandwagon and ponied up the credit card number right away. As I creep toward that magical half century mark of age, I have re-evaluated my perceptions of a lot of things. Advertising and keeping up with the Joneses were scrutinized and I have worked hard to avoid both. It can be difficult, but I am very happy to have made the progress that I have. I am largely happy with what I have. And my slowly shrinking debt load would agree.</p>
<p>Since I got my wife on board a few years ago, we don&#8217;t care too much what the meighbors have. Where I once would have felt a sense of deprivation at looking at some ads, I now often find a source of amusement. We have raised our son to use critical thinking on matters such as this, he&#8217;s 18 now and becoming a somewhat savvy shopper. As he heads off into the world, we can only hope that he keeps his head on straight. He is already way more prepared that I was at that age.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have watched both the summer and winter Olympics on Canadian TV for years. Not only are there less commercial interruptions but for some reason the commercials are less annoying when they do have them. Maybe because many are for products/stores we don&#039;t have in the U.S. or because we have never seen them before. The opening ceremony usually has no commercial interruption or very little. 

They still show most of the American athletes and I find the announcers less annoying as well. They show a lot of events in &#039;real time&#039; or at least a full 3 hours earlier than what we get from the American t.v. coverage. Plus it is nice to get a different perspective. 

But I realize this option isn&#039;t available to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have watched both the summer and winter Olympics on Canadian TV for years. Not only are there less commercial interruptions but for some reason the commercials are less annoying when they do have them. Maybe because many are for products/stores we don&#8217;t have in the U.S. or because we have never seen them before. The opening ceremony usually has no commercial interruption or very little. </p>
<p>They still show most of the American athletes and I find the announcers less annoying as well. They show a lot of events in &#8216;real time&#8217; or at least a full 3 hours earlier than what we get from the American t.v. coverage. Plus it is nice to get a different perspective. </p>
<p>But I realize this option isn&#8217;t available to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re consumers. We&#039;re by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty -- these things don&#039;t concern me. What concerns me is celebrity magazines, television with five hundred channels, some guy&#039;s name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re consumers. We&#8217;re by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty &#8212; these things don&#8217;t concern me. What concerns me is celebrity magazines, television with five hundred channels, some guy&#8217;s name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra.</p>
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		<title>By: MattA</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/18/the-never-ending-war-against-advertising/comment-page-2/#comment-148587</link>
		<dc:creator>MattA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually astonished on my recent trip through Canada to see almost no billboards along the highway between Windsor and Toronto. It was surreal. 

MN Scout, we watch shows on DVD almost exclusively now. That, and hulu.com, although that site DOES have ads. :(

JD, thanks for the article. I agree with other users about adblockplus, and use it all the time. I did end up signing up for a high-yield savings account through your site, so I don&#039;t feel too bad about not clicking on any ads. That, and your other article about not clicking on ads. :-D Thanks to your honesty, I&#039;m a faithful reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually astonished on my recent trip through Canada to see almost no billboards along the highway between Windsor and Toronto. It was surreal. </p>
<p>MN Scout, we watch shows on DVD almost exclusively now. That, and hulu.com, although that site DOES have ads. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>JD, thanks for the article. I agree with other users about adblockplus, and use it all the time. I did end up signing up for a high-yield savings account through your site, so I don&#8217;t feel too bad about not clicking on any ads. That, and your other article about not clicking on ads. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks to your honesty, I&#8217;m a faithful reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate when people comment &quot;I know why you&#039;re saying it&quot;.

No, you don&#039;t know it coz you&#039;re not in other people&#039;s heads.
I sincerely dislike that sweater and wouldn&#039;t buy were it cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate when people comment &#8220;I know why you&#8217;re saying it&#8221;.</p>
<p>No, you don&#8217;t know it coz you&#8217;re not in other people&#8217;s heads.<br />
I sincerely dislike that sweater and wouldn&#8217;t buy were it cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, I like the sweater.  You&#039;re just saying that because it costs 2 grand, which is maybe 4 years of clothing budget for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, I like the sweater.  You&#8217;re just saying that because it costs 2 grand, which is maybe 4 years of clothing budget for us all.</p>
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