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Thursday, 16th October 2008 (by J.D.)This article is about Spare Change
Since drastically curtailing our cable television, Kris and I have been catching shows via Netflix and the iTunes Music Store. We currently watch Heroes, Battlestar Galactica, and The Office. What one show should we add to the mix? I’d prefer a comedy, but Kris would prefer a drama.
Meanwhile, here are a few stories about personal finance:
To begin, two recent guest posts at Money-Saving Mom caught my eye. First, Katey offers advice on living frugally and pleasantly in an apartment. A couple of these (trash out every day?) seem odd, but most are smart ways to make the most of a small space. Second, Michelle has some tips on how to make your own household cleaners.
Next, Paul sent an article from The New York times about how the economic woes of their parents are affecting teenagers. This story makes me feel out of touch. “National surveys put older teenagers’ average monthly allowance at $100 and upward.” Really? Really? I was lucky to ever get five bucks. And the stuff kids want, their knowledge of brands and prices — wow, was I like that when I was in high school?
Finally, via Jeff, The Wall Street Journal has four smart money moves for a down economy. Three of these seem obvious — create a budget, eliminate debt, boost your credit score — but the fourth is more subtle, and is a great idea: convert your traditional IRA to a Roth IRA. When you perform this conversion, you owe income tax on every dollar you roll over. Because of recent market declines, you probably have fewer dollars to roll over, and thus would owe less in taxes. If you qualify, this may be worth considering.

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October 16th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
thanks for the reminder- i’ve been meaning to roll the tIRA into a rIRA. awesome timing to do that, especially for us this year.
i really like house- since i don’t have cable or much time to watch tv anyway, it’s about all i can keep up with lately.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Holy cow. 100 bucks? I never even got an allowance. At least I have an excuse now, right? Tough childhoold and all that rubbish.
As far as TV shows: House, MD. Seriously. It’s deep, shallow, dramatic, funny and outlandishly fascinating. Watch at least three shows to get the hang of House, and you’ll love it.
(That is, you’ll love it if you haven’t already seen it.)
October 16th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Mad Men
October 16th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I agree…HOUSE
You get the comedy along with the drama.
$100 allowance? Not in my house!
No wonder the world is as it is.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I know a show with comedy and drama that you guys could both agree on! The show is called
The Pickup Artist 2
It is on VH1 and you could watch the episodes for free online. I love the show!
Oh yeah I guess I should tell you what the show is about. It is a reality show that teaches nerds and losers how to pick up girls…. Trust me its great!!!!!!!!!!!
October 16th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I agree with Leigh and Shaun. I love House, but since they suggested that, I’ll suggest the Office. In addition to Netflix and iTunes, I would suggest Hulu to watch television. They have other great shows like Burn Notice (think MacGuyer with spies) and movies (Sense and Sensibility).
What kind of chores are these kids doing for a $100 a month? I overcharged on my parents’ credit card during college - once -and they drove to my dorm and took it away!! I’m glad they did. Who knows what kind of damage I could have done back then?
October 16th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I like Big Love. My husband likes Deadwood. I’ve never watched Lost, but I think that would be a good one as well.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
That “$100 allowance for older teens” thing has got to be a mistake. I’ve jotted it down as something to research. The original data must be online somewhere, right?
October 16th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
The article also has data showing “discretionary spending” by 17- and 18-year-olds of around $50 per week. Again, this seems high, but what do I know? My oldest child is 14 — but she has black fur, a collar, and no allowance.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
The show you should start watching next is Dexter. It’s a drama WITH comedy! And it’s fabulous. It’s seriously one of the best TV shows I’ve ever seen…and this is coming from someone currently following more series than she can count on 2 hands.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I *highly* recommend How I Met Your Mother as a fantastic comedy. It’s a sitcom, but far funnier and more clever than Friends ever was. Plus it’s got some great and hilarious actors in it. Pushing Daisies is also high on my list. Funny, dramatic, whimsical… it’s got everything. And if you’re willing to wait, take a chance on Joss Whedon’s new show coming out in January, Dollhouse. Knowing Joss (who did Buffy and Firefly), it’s pretty much guaranteed to be quality.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Little Britain is available on Watch it Now, it’s comedy somewhere between the insanity of Monty Python and the dryness of Are You Being Served.
Wonderfalls and Scrubs are also excellent choices.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Well, you just named 3 of the 4 shows I watch regularly; if you’d like to check and see if the trend holds, my fourth show is 30 Rock. It’s smart comedy - smarter than it seems at first glance, anyway. Not quite Arrested Development smart, but close.
And yeah, 100 bucks allowance is ridiculous - I got a $5 a week allowance (contingent on doing my chores) until I got my driver’s license, and from then on I had to get a job if I wanted spending money. And of course I still had to do my chores then, anyway.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Ugh–
Tried “House” and couldn’t take it, even though I enjoyed that actor in “Black Adder” (years ago). A friend recommended “Damages”. Any thoughts?
October 16th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
JD,
We have eschewed cable for an over-the-air antenna. For the last 10 months we’ve used an indoor antenna, but we’ll be hooking up an outdoor antenna when it arrives.
Total cost for antenna + coax cable: ~$50.
We watch all the CSI, NCIS, Numb3rs, Heroes, Office in HD. The antenna is hooked up to a home theater PC that acts as a DVR and media center. We canceled our Netflix and only miss it a little bit (watch instant was a big A+ to catch up on Heroes).
October 16th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
For TV, a cheap way to do it without iTunes is watching free online. hulu.com is an excellent resource for TV shows, like your next new favorite show, 30 Rock. Also, the major networks have features where you can watch shows on your computer the next day after they air, all for free!
October 16th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
At last, a subject I can expound upon! “Chuck” is one of the best shows on TV right now. It’s a great mix of action, drama, comedy, and sci-fi. Highly recommended! That would be the one show I’d keep if I had to give up all others. As noted above, “Dexter” is excellent, although not for the faint of heart. My wife and I are also big “LOST” fans. If you want a silly comedy, “The Big Bang Theory” is good stuff with tons of nerd humor. Finally, “My Own Worst Enemy” looks pretty good based on the pilot episode, but it’s too soon to tell for sure.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Life on NBC:
http://www.nbc.com/Life/
Great show that doesn’t get a lot of buzz.
October 16th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I want to like Hulu, but in practice I find it frustrating. The selection is limited, the ads are annoying (though admittedly, there aren’t many of them), and I can’t figure out the logic behind which episodes are available. We recently spent an evening watching the five episodes of 30 Rock that Hulu offered, but I didn’t find it a pleasant experience.
I’ll have to check out the actual network websites. It never occurred to me to check.
Tangent: I hate that the iTunes Music Store now defaults to HD-quality episodes when you search. Hate it. It’s only a matter of time before I pay an extra buck per episode for an entire season accidentally.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
As a teenager I did not get an allowance. I worked. First summer job was at 14 when it was legal to be an on-the-books employee. Before that I was able to earn money around the house with some chores. That was sporadic and at best I could earn $2 an hour for hard work. I DID splurge, though. My item of choice was shoes. But I still managed to buy a decent car with cash when I was 16.
Our son is not a teenager, but he does get an allowance. He has to earn it though, and it tops out slightly over $5 a week.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hi J.D. and Kris,
Here are the shows my boyfriend and I both watch:
- Weeds
- Boston Legal
- Entourage
- The Amazing Race
Of those, I’d recommend Boston Legal. It’s sharp, witty, and has some really, really good writing. Plus, William Shatner is a riot! If you like the current episodes, it’s also a great one to watch back on DVD.
-Erica
October 16th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
You should go with the combo of “Big Bang Theory” and “How I Met Your Mother”. Both very funny and, especially BBT, not you everyday sitcom. If you must go with a drama, go with “Lost”. You have time to catch up before the season starts.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
my husband and I hardly ever watch tv together — the debates and maybe a few minutes of msnbc after dinner, or an episode of iron chef or top chef from bravo when it’s on (but we miss the old japanese iron chef shows). House is ok if it happens to come on when I’m surfing, but I don’t seek it out — or Law and Order Criminal Intent, though I’ll sometimes watch one…
However, we have had standing “dates” to watch “the closer” together, which you might like — there’s humor but it’s also a police procedural… and we’ve watched all of Lost and will stay with it when it comes back for this season, though I worry that it’s going bad, the way the x-files did, which i ultimately couldn’t keep watching…
October 16th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
I sounds like you have the same TV viewing tastes as Mr Chiot’s and I. We love Battlestar, The Office, and Heroes (although this season of Heroes is not as riveting so far).
I would agree with all those that recommended “Big Bang Theory” and “How I Met Your Mother” both are fantastic. The most laughs I have each week, there’s just something about lighthearted comedy that you don’t have to tune in to every week to stay up on the story line. LOVE LOVE LOVE them both!!! I’m also a huge fan of “House” and “Dexter”.
Mr Chiots and I love to watch TV shows on DVD. We cancelled our cable last year and have been getting shows from Netflix or the library. We like watching them all in a row. I would also recommend “Good Neighbors” and “The Thin Blue Line” both Brittish shows great for those times when there isn’t anything new on network TV. We also really enjoyed “Fronteir House” “1940’s House” “1900’s House” all great educational PBS reality shows.
October 16th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
One day, I kid you not, a teenager’s card got declined and she rolled her eyes and said, to her friend, “My dad has me on a limit of $500 a day, SO annoying!”. I was absolutely dumbfounded.
Today, I had a customer who was talking to me about how she really has to watch her money since her husband has been unemployed for several months. What was she buying? A $32 skirt, a $40 hoodie, and a $49 pair of pants- for her 12 year old daughter- just to be nice. Apparently, her daughter’s been kind of stressed out lately.
It’s sad to see how much parents spend to keep their kids happy and how, regardless how much the parents spend, the kids are rarely grateful.
October 16th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I 2nd Pushing Daisies. Not sure how a show about death can lift my spirits, but I look forward to it every week.
October 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Mad Men!!!!
October 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
@ elisabeth - if you have cable, the old Iron Chef episodes are on the Fine Living Network sporadically. I love them. I wish they were still on the Food Network and more often.
@ JD - as for your question about what show to add, I have much different taste in TV since I watch none of the three you listed.
But I love House - I loved the first episode I ever saw, hated the second, and then have loved it ever since. It takes a few times to get to know Dr. House.
Burn Notice is another show I absolutely adore. And recommend without hesitation.
Beyond that… I don’t watch that much TV, I have two little kids.
October 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Have you watched “Six Feet Under”? I think it’s the best series out there, though it ended a couple of years back.
I also enjoy Lost.
October 16th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
$5 was worth a lot more back when you got your pocket money wasn’t it?
The world is very different now…not bad…just different
October 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
I know you don’t like Hulu, but they have complete runs of a few series. For comedy I recommend “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia”
Not on Hulu, but the best drama on television right now, hands down, is “Brothers and Sisters”
If you wanna do it through Netflix tho, you have to watch “Six Feet Under.” It’s probably the best show ever put on television, cable or otherwise.
If you wanna do retro, you cannot lose with “All In The Family.” Give it a chance. Again, one of the best shows ever produced.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
For Comedy:
How I Met Your Mother
Chuck
Psych
Monk
For Drama:
Mentalist and Life on Mars both seem promising
Use Netflix to get Veronica Mars
SciFi:
Doctor Who
Other:
Mythbusters
Plus the ones you already watch, which I also love.
I watch way too much TV and Netflix.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
$720 is rent for my apartment, $200 for my car, $200 for food, and about $80 for gas.
However I am a full time college student, triple majoring in mechanical engineering, math, and computer science so I don’t have time for a job during school.
I do work 60 hours a week for 3 months this summer making $25 an hour, but nothing from September to June.
So if you wonder how the number gets to $100 - it is people like me whose parents give them an inordinate amount of money per month compared to those who get a typical amount. Averages are always misleading, what is the median allowance?
So how am I not spoiled? Well I worked my ass off in high school to get a full ride scholarship to college. My parents had saved up quite a bit to send me to college and now they are basically drawing that down and paying me with it monthly so I have no debt.
Funny thing was, up until I got my scholarship I NEVER got an allowance, and I was paying for my car. Obviously I didn’t have rent when I lived at home but there was not so much as $5 for gas here and there.
I worked at a gas station for my freshman year, McDonalds for sophomore and junior, before finally getting two good jobs senior year of high school. I appreciate the money they give me now because I remember when I made $5 an hour and was saving up to the down payment on my car - it took months to get a few thousand dollars together.
Learning the value of money and the pay off for hard work is the most valuable lesson my parents ever taught me.
As for TV - I don’t really watch much since I don’t have one, but my roommate has Dexter on DVD and we watch it together - now that is a show.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
My oldest, 17, gets $40/week. My youngest, 14, gets $20/week. Is that high?
They are pretty much responsible for all of their entertainment, public transportation fees, and a lot of extras on that, so have to plan, save and budget when there is something they want.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Dexter is definitely a must see–fantastic! Mad Men and House are also great, as is Burn Notice. Lost is wonderful, but you’d have to start from the beginning, and that’s a fair amount of catching up to do. As a mythology show, it is much better than Heroes, though. I used to love Heroes, but I feel it has gone steadily downhill and I have finally decided to give it up. As someone who also believes that BSG is the best show to have ever appeared on television, I’d second the motion for adding Dr. Who in the scifi genre. So basically, it’s really hard to choose just one! Though if I had to, it would be Dexter.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Besides “House” (which we like), here are a few others.
Comedy:
– 30 Rock (Watch It Now! on Netflix)
– Big Bang Theory (silly, but fun)
– How I Met Your Mother (NPH is great)
– Psych (main character is hilarious)
Drama:
–Deadwood (although it’s pretty crude)
–Rome (same)
Heard good things:
–Friday Night Lights
October 16th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
In defense of the $100 allowance (am I really defending this?!?!) the number is meaningless unless you know what the teen is responsible for paying with it. I used to get an allowance but was responsible for buying all my own clothes. I had friends who got much lower or none at all but if their parents were buying their clothes they actually got more than I. I believe in giving kids (esp teens) enough money and responsibilities to make money mistakes on their own (it’s the best teaching they’ll get).
On the television front I’ll second Six Feet Under and give a few more:
- Big Love
- Arrested Developement
- 4400
4400 esp. given you sci-fi interests. It was the best show that no one watched. It was like x-files only the central mystery got more and more interesting (not more confusing).
October 16th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
My first thought on a TV show matching the description of what you want was House. Since that was nixed by Kris, I pick Dexter and Six Feet Under as other shows that are both funny and dramatic. Both have really dark humor though, so if that isn’t your cup of tea I’d pass on those.
(Oh, and I’m watching The Big Bang Theory right now
Totally addictive mindfluff)
October 17th, 2008 at 12:16 am
I agree with a lot of other commenters: House, M.D. I find it hilarious, which would cover your need for comedy, but it’s classified as a drama. If Kris decides she really can’t stand it (I still close my eyes during any scene involving needles) then I’d suggest Burn Notice or Dexter. I haven’t seen either one, but I’ve heard great things about them. Also, I have seen a bunch of Six Feet Under, and loved it. As Nicole says, you’re looking at some pretty dark humor. You might like The Closer. My Mom and I love it, my Dad’s not so into it.
I’m a college student, and my part-time job isn’t covering my expenses right now, so my parents have to give me a couple hundred dollars every month so I can pay my rent. (I tried living with them, and the amount I save on gas probably makes up for paying rent.) It’s my senior year, though, and I’m hoping to start making better money once I don’t have to be in class every day. When I was a teenager, my parents paid for everything until I got a job the summer right before my last year of high school. Then I had to pay for gas and anything else I wanted.
Of course, starting college has given me a whole new appreciation for going home for dinner.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:28 am
The Wire.
Okay, that’s not a comedy, but it is amazing. If you’re looking for comedy and drama together, I’d definitely recommend the brilliant Dead Like Me, about an 18 year old girl who dies and then gets a job reaping the souls of other people like her. It’s from the same people as Wonderfalls (that a couple of people mentioned) but a bit more drama in the mix, and equally as funny
October 17th, 2008 at 12:52 am
I recommend House M.D., there’s both drama AND comedy!
October 17th, 2008 at 1:37 am
I only watch three shows; and I’m getting ready to add a fourth to my VCR programming:
- Heroes
- Survivor
- The Office
and the one I would recommend, it’s a 30 minute sitcom on Monday nights, 8pm, called “The Big Bang Theory”.
They are my people
Give it a shot.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:28 am
Yeah, I’m not too far removed from that “older teenager category.” My parents gave me a large allowance (until they thought I was old enough to work, and then I got a job) but it was to cover EVERYTHING, including school clothes, supplies, any meals outside the home, and all entertainment. I don’t remember how much it was, but I know it was a lot. Really they were more concerned about teaching me to budget and save under their watchful eye than anything.
I always liked it because even though I still had to make informed decisions about my spending, I didn’t have to go running to them asking for money every time I wanted to do something.
This method of giving “allowance” was popular among all my friend’s parents for a while (until we all got jobs) - I wonder if it has since become even more common.
Oh yeah, and Burn Notice is funny/cute and action-filled, too - a good one.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:44 am
We handle the allowance situation like part-time employment: if there are a lot of extra chores to be done and he does them without complaint, our 15 year old can earn up to $15/week. If he’s too busy to help out, or off with his friends when things need to be done, he earns nothing. Over time, it’s teaching him to balance work and play.
Where the economy is effecting him is in college savings. Our other savings are long-term and I’m not worried by a temporary downturn, no matter how severe, but we need that college money in 3-7 years. His 529 savings account lost 25% of its value in 2008; that’s easily a year of tuition and books. Student loans are becoming harder to get and he won’t qualify for financial aid (unless something unexpected and horrible happens).
I’m sure we’re not the only parents who are concerned about college savings. Somehow, that seems more important to me than Hollister jeans or a designer bag for my kid.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:59 am
My children are younger, but they only get $3.50 and $2.50 each week. They also have to pay taxes out of their allowance and are expected to give a tithe to the church. The tax money is used for special trips and outings that we vote on as a family.
For extra money they can do extra chores or tasks (there are a list of household chores that have to be completed each week if anyone is going to get allowance). They are in the process of starting up their first business (they are 9 and 11), a nursery, and sold $200 worth of flowers their first time out. They each get 15% of the profits.
I think that teaching them to understand money, learning to start a business and work for what they want, will give my children a leg up on the rest of the folks.
For the record, I have to ditto the “Big Bang Theory.” Both my husband and myself enjoy the dialogue.
October 17th, 2008 at 4:06 am
I have to second the motion for How I Met Your Mother. Greatest sitcom since Scrubs. Lots of backstory, but very clever, especially since they are the same age as me. I guess I’m getting old when I start noticing subtle references to childhood events in tv shows!
October 17th, 2008 at 4:47 am
The Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother are both quality comedy shows. The Big Bang Theory is my favorite new comedy in the last 10 years.
October 17th, 2008 at 5:04 am
The teenagers in that article gave me an entitlement migraine. My money came from various jobs (since I was 14) and my options for college (which was local) were find an apartment and pay rent or live at home and pay rent.
October 17th, 2008 at 5:23 am
Pushing Daisies is good, quirky comedy/drama, and it keeps getting better.
Also How I Met Your Mother.
October 17th, 2008 at 6:03 am
Hey J.D.,
Hulu is okay, but have you tried Joost? (www.joost.com)
October 17th, 2008 at 6:12 am
Since House is a no-go, I have to echo the comments in favor of Big Bang Theory (possibly the funniest sitcom ever, frequently funny even with multiple viewings), How I Met Your Mother (sitcom leaning towards the dramatic), and Pushing Daisies, which is hard to neatly define, but has both dramatic and comedic elements; the narration and sets sort of remind me of Tim Burton’s Charlie and the Chocolate Factory from a couple years ago.
October 17th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Life NBC Its Great on fridays
October 17th, 2008 at 6:20 am
I think I got about $5 a week allowance and made $1 an hour babysitting. Movies were almost $4 and albums about $12. I saved most of my money for years and years and it wound up buying me about a semester’s worth of books in college. My parents bought my clothes–at Sears and Penney’s, they didn’t think it made sense to spend much money on clothes for anyone who was still growing–and sometimes I got to borrow the Impala. There were no cell phones and video games mostly involved dropping a few quarters on Space Invaders at the arcade (although one friend had Pong).
October 17th, 2008 at 6:41 am
I recieved $50 at the beginning of the month and it had to last until the end. During the summers when I had a job I didn’t get an allowance and had to cover car insurance.
I was taking dance lessons at a place 30 minutes away most nights of the week during high school and that $50 would have to cover food for both lunches and dinners. My mom would provide food so I could choose to pack a lunch/dinner or buy, but I’d have to pace myself to make the money last. My last year of high school when I was driving the $50 had to include gas for my vehicle. (I shared it with my sister)
October 17th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Like others, I got about $5/week growing up and sometimes a little bit extra if I brought home a good report card — if I wanted more, I babysat for the neighbors. My parents bought my clothes & school supplies, but things like cds, magazines, the occasional scrunchie — I saved up my allowance.
What are kids spending $50/week on?!
Anyway, Grey’s Anatomy is a favorite of mine.
October 17th, 2008 at 6:50 am
TV Show: Chuck on NBC. Absolutely hilarious. Spy comedy with action and a beautiful woman to entice all of the males out there. Oh, and the main character is kind of a dorky guy that doesn’t belong as a spy — makes it all the more hilarious.
By far one of my favorite shows. In fact, one of the only shows I DVR religiously.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:01 am
Thanks for the tip on the IRA. Also, you should look into watching “The King of Queens”. It is an older show but still has reruns on tv at night. Also, you can pick up all nine seasons on Amazon.com relatively cheaply. I watch one or two episodes a night because it is a great show.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Wow, only one vote so far for “30 Rock”?? That’s the best show in years! That and The Office are all I watch (besides Meet the Press and This Week w/ George S.).
October 17th, 2008 at 7:27 am
The only show I really enjoy watching is NCIS. Drama and comedy all rolled into one.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:39 am
I’d recommend watching the series firefly if you haven’t. It was only on for one season but it was excellent. It has comedy and drama elements. It’s a sci fi show, which noticing you like battlestar and heroes you may enjoy.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Since my wife and I only watch four shows regularly (if you count Battlestar, which is far from regular in terms of when it actually airs), and three of them are the ones you and Kris watch, I say our match should be complete and you should watch House. A drama I guess, but always something funny.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:45 am
How I Met Your Mother is my favorite show on TV right now. Funny, sweet and refreshing. Lost is also good but it’s pretty complex. Freaks and Geeks is a great show that was only one for one season. It’s like a modern day Wonder Years. And one more comedy - Arrested Development. Smart and hilarious.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Lost is excellent for both funny moments and suspense.
The Amazing Race is a lot of fun to watch how relationships work (or don’t work) and to learn about different cultures, plus you find yourself cheering on your favorites (and wishing that annoying team would get a flat tire or get lost).
October 17th, 2008 at 8:02 am
I would suggest Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia for a new comedy.
Also, the King of Queens is hilarious as well!
October 17th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I tore through a lot of TV shows last winter with Netflix. I will probably start my subscription back up again soon. My favorites included Arrested Development, Six Feet Under, and Weeds.
But really, Six Feet Under is my all-time favorite television show. I highly recommend it.
October 17th, 2008 at 8:35 am
I’m a firm believer in having kids earn lots of money. My seven year old earned about $400.00 from me doing chores, homework, having lemonade sales, etc. over the summer. But the purpose of earning the money was to buy her own school clothes come September, not to squander it.
She can still earn up to $100.00 a month if she so chooses. But there again, she has to pay for any additional clothes she needs, a portion of her horseback riding lessons (and if she doesn’t have the money to pay, she just doesn’t go), and any other ‘fun’ items that come up.
I heard a therapist speak on parenting a few years ago who said that the absolute worst thing you can do for you child’s self-esteem is to give them all that they want. It teaches them that they NEED someone to take care of them and that they are not capable of providing for themselves. The best way to grow a child’s self-esteem (and their financial skills too) is to have them come up with ways to buy their own ’stuff.’ They learn to believe in themselves rather than rely on others.
At seven, my daughter is learning that she can manage money. She has an EXCELLENT concept of the value of money. She holds tight to her cash for things she really wants rather than spending it frivolously. We’ve already talked about tithing (going back to an earlier conversation here), although we aren’t asking her to pay it. We’ve told her that when she turns ten she will have to start saving for college.
We talk a lot about our ‘adult’ finances too. Why we live in a smaller house than many of friends, why we don’t have an SUV (or cable television or any number of other things that to seem so normal in our community), why we watch the stock market so closely at the moment.
It may seem like a lot for such a young kid, but to me these are all basic life skills that she is not going to learn anywhere else. I want the best for my child, and knowledge and skills are it - not one more pair of designer jeans.
October 17th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Pushing Daisies, Chuck, The Middleman, or The Big Bang Theory.
$100 a month is reasonable if you figure in gas money, and since this is for older teenagers, I’m guessing that’s figured in.
October 17th, 2008 at 8:50 am
I’ll put my vote in for How I Met Your Mother. I think it’s one of the best written, best acted comedies on TV today. It’s kept my attention into the 4th season, which is one more season than I could stand Friends.
There are a lot of shows I don’t mind watching. There are a lot of shows I’d like to see. This is the only one I make time to watch. For reference, I watch, um, maybe 3 hrs of TV/week when it’s not football season, and even then, the game’s mostly just on, I’m not necessarily watching them all. My point is, it’s worth it. To me.
October 17th, 2008 at 8:54 am
My Name is Earl has to be my favorite….then Grey’s and House are a close second.
October 17th, 2008 at 8:59 am
I recommend Kitchen Nightmares. Yes, it’s sort of a cooking show, but it stars the highly charismatic Gordon Ramsay. Each week he audits a failing restaurant and then whips them into shape. Often times, it’s an issue of the owners standing in the way of themselves and sabotaging their own success. I’ve found that a lot of the points he makes to the owners translate very eloquently into my own life, and this show is actually what inspired me to stop screwing myself over financially and take control of my money. In addition, I’m something of a sucker for happy endings and seeing others succeed.
Though this show is unscripted, drama and comedy abound and Ramsay’s salty straight-forward delivery never ceases to amuse. The best part? It’s free on Fox.com.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Comedy:
Weeds - Very funny for adults
Drama:
Dexter - Devilishly good… Again, for adults.
I am looking forward to gettin my John Adams series through Netflix. I’ve heard it is excellent.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Mad Men–great drama, great characters, and sneaky social commentary.
30 Rock–I don’t even know what to say…this show just gets better with each episode.
I didn’t realize there was so much love for House out there. I like Hugh Laurie, but I have a low tolerance for medical shows.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:26 am
I can’t believe there’s only one mention of The Wire.
This is my favorite television show ever. (Upstairs Downstairs is second.) But I’ve watched both of those multiple times.
I’ve seen one episode of House, but didn’t get it. Part of the problem is I don’t buy Hugh Laurie with an American accent. I’m used to seeing him in Black Adder and Jeeves and Wooster. That’s a hang-up that maybe I should set aside, I guess.
Thanks for all the recommendations, everyone. I’ll check out How I Met Your Mother (which has a cast I like) and Big Bang Theory. I’ll also take peeks at some of the other shows you’ve suggested.
Kris and I don’t watch a lot of television, as you know — I think that it’s too non-productive — but we do like to watch certain shows together. It’s always fun to find new ones. There are only so many times we can watch Arrested Development.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:35 am
You need to try out Pushing Daisies! It is has drama, comedy, romance, death, secrets, and pie! It is one of the 2 shows I am watching online this season…my other is Eureka. As my favorites got canceled, I didn’t replace them, and cut back until hubby and I could cancel our cable 2 years ago.
Granted, I have caught episodes of Big Love, The Tudors, and True Blood, and may pick them up again later if I can find the DVDs or downloads cheap!
October 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
The Wire, without question.
And Generation Kill comes out on DVD soon I think.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
“Kitchen Nightmares” is fantastic for personal budgeting. You’ll never want to go out to eat again!
October 17th, 2008 at 9:42 am
We also watch shows solely through Netflix. We tried the networks’ online viewing but it can be a pain to set up and there are still commercials.
We watch
House, MD
That 70s Show
The Office
30 Rock
Scrubs
Lost
Heroes
I’ve also queued up Pushing Daisies, How I Met Your Mother and Arrested Development because of the good things I’ve heard about them.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
JD. I was about to demand you watch the Wire. I am glad you are in tune with it. It is without a doubt my ALLTIME favorite.
It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia is very very funny, its fast and witty, but has depth to the characters. I highly recommend it.
for netflix, you should see about renting When We Left Earth (blu ray if you have it) - awesome 6 part documentary on NASA, GREAT GREAT FOOTAGE.
but really you should just rewatch the Wire and listen to the Commentaries
! It’s a great way to go through the series for an nth time (ive watched it n+1 times)
October 17th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Kyle, Kris and I don’t own many shows on DVD, but we do intend to purchase the complete set of The Wire when it comes out in December. We’ll spend the rest of the month re-watching it. For the third or fourth time. Maybe this time we’ll do the commentaries. It’s simply a stunning piece of work.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:18 am
“wow, was I like that when I was in high school?”
J.D. - probably not. Today’s youth (which I am included in) is much more material focused and willing to spend 5x as much for a shirt or item because of its brand recognition. It’s really a shame though that things have turned out like this as strongly as they have.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Big Bang Theory, I think you’d like it given the shows you listed.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:42 am
“The Daily Show”. It’s comedy, drama, politics, entertainment. My wife and I watch it religiously. With the election less than a month away, it’s must-watch TV.
October 17th, 2008 at 10:51 am
I enjoy a lot of the shows already mentioned, and I’d like to add Eli Stone. It was great. I look forward to it coming back this year.
I don’t watch a lot of TV, but I found that getting into shows that have already been around for a few years is a boon. Friends have been very generous about lending me favourites like Gilmore Girls and previous seasons of NCIS (my current favourite).
Sadly, internet TV hasn’t quite caught on here in Canada and what we do get is quite limited (due to copyright laws I’m sure). If you Americans access to it, Little Mosque on the Prairies is hilarious. (though a Canadian sense of humour may be required)
October 17th, 2008 at 11:01 am
My votes for TV shows are:
Eureka (sure a little cheesy, but always fun)
Bones
As for Hulu issues, their show selection is based on what kind of an agreement they can reach with the network and producers. And yes, the commercials are annoying, but I’d rather have a few 10-15 second interruptions than the marathon that has become the American commercial break.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I don’t normally like police dramas, but I love, love, LOVE The Shield. It’s definitely not child-safe, and it’s way more drama than comedy (although there are some funny moments), but oh, man, the intricacies and shifting alliances and plot twists are AWESOME.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Just remember: Just because x is the average doesn’t mean anybody gets x. If you have four teenagers from normal families getting $20 per month and one rich family giving their kid $420 per month, that averages out to $100 per month.
Also this suggests they are talking about upper-middle class and the “earn and consume” type of rich people:
“‘It is an unbelievable shock to affluent families that their lifestyles are gone for good,’ Dr. Manning said, ‘and their children are ill prepared for it.’”
I graduated high school just over three years ago, and I didn’t get $100 per month.
I believe “keeping children happy, stimulated and successful, no matter the cost,” IS an unassailable virtue and that these families are just doing it horribly wrong (do these kids sound happy to you?), so I’m annoyed that the article acted like that’s a bad thing.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I would recommend How I Met Your Mother. Hilarious! Also Weeds is addictive, and has elements of both drama and comedy.
For many of these shows– Lost, the Office, etc. you can watch them for free online. This is how I watch all of my TV these days. Then again my husband watches almost no TV — it doesn’t work if we want to watch it together as I just use my laptop in my office. But still — why pay for something on iTunes that you can get from the Network or Hulu for free??
October 17th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I’d recommend Burn Notice, Chuck, or Psych for comedy. Lost, of course, is the best recommendation for drama.
Out of those, I’d probably recommend Burn Notice. It’s only in it’s second season, and the entire first season is available on Hulu, so catching up will be cheap. Plus it’s easily one of the most original shows out there. Chuck and Psych are both fun, but not nearly as witty. Lost is great, but it’s coming up on the fifth season and that is a LOT of catchup to do.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Ha! Those are the same shows we are watching on netflix right now! Try Dexter or Six Feet Under. Good stuff.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
RT, kudos to you for such a realistic approach to money with your daughter! My parents did similar things with my siblings and me growing up, and we’ve always been grateful. Learning how to save and to set priorities was invaluable. I just want you to know it works
October 17th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
I don’t take out trash everyday, but I see the point of doing it since I live in 45mq…
October 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Wow, people are passionate about their TV series!
We’re getting ready to cut the cable, as soon as the promo we are currently on ends. I’ve been ready for a while, and hubby has signed on due to disgust with the election coverage and his favorite sports teams!
I recommend “Burn Notice”. My daughter and I are in the midst of season 6 of “ER” - she’s 17 so she didn’t catch it the first time around. We’ll probably go through season 12 or 13. After that, I don’t know - maybe another “retro” series for us. I didn’t start watching “NYPD Blue” until it was several seasons old, so that might be fun.
Oh, and we’re waiting for season 7 of “King of the Hill” to be released on DVD. . . .
October 17th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
I only have a handful of shows I watch on a religious basis (one being House); Dexter being one of them —and I also HIGHLY recommend it. The only other regular show I watch is The Soup on E!, the only way to get an overview of pop culture- but that’s not on DVD.
I’ve seen episodes of My Name is Earl and Curb Your Enthusiasm—-they are quite funny as well.
Six Feet Under is a good bet…though it got a touch angst-y towards the conclusion of the series, it is still worth a look.
If you want some “edu-ma-cation” with your entertainment, Discovery Channel’s “Dirty Jobs” is hilarious.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
The Amazing Race is the best TV show of all time, period. But only two seasons are available on DVD (so far). I’d also recommend The Wire, Entourage, 30 Rock, and Gilmore Girls.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
SMALLVILLE
The best TV show EVER! We “rented” all the episodes from season 1 until we were caught up to season 6 then now every Thursday at 8pm on CW.
Great acting, drama, comedy, science fiction, action!!!
October 17th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I watch so much TV I don’t even know where to start with recommendations! So I’ll limit to two per genre.
Drama: Mad Men, Friday Night Lights
Comedy: Extras, Arrested Development
As for the allowance thing, the most I ever got was $7 per week (as a teen in the late 90’s). But my parents paid for everything for me (clothes, car insurance, etc) so the $7 was just spending money for the movies or buying something fun, not for any essentials. If a teen has to pay more of their own expenses I can understand them getting a higher allowance. However if they’re spending $50 on clothes every week, that allowance is excessive, in my opinion.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
My husband and I also cut the cable. The commercials on Hulu drive me nuts, but we’ve learned to get used to them.
Bones is amazing. My husband and I love it.
Lost is one we enjoy as well, but you really do have to keep up with it.
Pushing Daisies is enjoyable.
Chuck is a really fun one as well.
Life is a good one.
I hope you guys can find something you enjoy!
October 17th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
TV show recommendation: Pushing Daisies.
It was cut short last year by the writer’s strike, so there are only 9 episodes (3 discs) to order from Netflix. So if you don’t like it, you didn’t waste a lot of time, and you can move on to something else.
But you’ll love it — it’s got both comedy and drama, it’s written by intelligent people and stands up to multiple re-watches. My all-time favorite show (and I enjoy both Heroes and The Office).
October 17th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
I am a serious fan of Lost, but my favorite new drama this season is The Mentalist on CBS. Only three episodes have aired so far, but it’s already proving to be a smartly written show with great acting by Simon Baker and Robin Tunney. The other supporting actors are also great. For a police show it’s surprisingly funny.
My husband and I are also hooked on The Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The magic of this show is the English actress Lena Headey who is not only stunning but also a fantastic actress.
For “cancelled but excellent” shows I highly recommend Veronica Mars. All three seasons are fantastic and available through Netflix.
October 17th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Scrubs! It’s a perfect comedy but not slapstick or stupid. But it does have a few dramatic elements as well. :)Its my one show indulgence since getting rid of cable.
Also, I’m happy to be the 100th person to comment here, since this is my first time posting, although I’ve been an avid reader for over year now! Good luck with the selection!
-TC