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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/11/04/2008-us-election-results/comment-page-1/#comment-155407</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how the electoral college protects less populous states from being overrun by states with greater population, since either (1) the state electors vote according to who won the popular vote in that state or (2) they vote proportionally according to the proportion of the vote AND, the number of electors is the same as the number of Congressional representatives in the state, therefore based upon state population.  So the states with higher population are still running over the less populous states, and it doesn&#039;t matter how the electors decide to vote, really.

I think it would be more useful to introduce instant runoff voting to the United States.  I want to see third parties start having more of a voice in national politics, without necessarily functioning as spoilers.  (Let me be clear that I don&#039;t *blame* them and I don&#039;t agree they *are* spoilers, but they are certainly perceived that way by others.) You don&#039;t need a Constitutional amendment to use IRV, either, because the feds don&#039;t control how votes are tallied as long as no fraud is taking place.

I also want to see us go back to all paper ballots.  I think it&#039;s ridiculous that our republican democracy hinges on whether a machine somewhere has been stealth-programmed, or was hacked, or has broken down.  The absentee ballots here in Ohio are simply made of cardstock and you fill in the oval next to the candidate&#039;s name.  And if precincts are kept small enough it takes next to no time to count the ballots--I mean, we&#039;ve managed it all these years before the advent of computer voting machines.  It ain&#039;t rocket science.

(Even with voting machines printing out paper vote receipts I am reminded of some of the issues I have to deal with when making purchases at a store that prints out receipts--what if the ink runs dry, or the paper runs out?)

I also think that if you are an American citizen you should not have to register to vote, period.  You automatically have the franchise, even as a felon in some states, so why shouldn&#039;t you exercise it?

I&#039;m happy with who won but I still think our system is messed up and I would like to see it change for the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how the electoral college protects less populous states from being overrun by states with greater population, since either (1) the state electors vote according to who won the popular vote in that state or (2) they vote proportionally according to the proportion of the vote AND, the number of electors is the same as the number of Congressional representatives in the state, therefore based upon state population.  So the states with higher population are still running over the less populous states, and it doesn&#8217;t matter how the electors decide to vote, really.</p>
<p>I think it would be more useful to introduce instant runoff voting to the United States.  I want to see third parties start having more of a voice in national politics, without necessarily functioning as spoilers.  (Let me be clear that I don&#8217;t *blame* them and I don&#8217;t agree they *are* spoilers, but they are certainly perceived that way by others.) You don&#8217;t need a Constitutional amendment to use IRV, either, because the feds don&#8217;t control how votes are tallied as long as no fraud is taking place.</p>
<p>I also want to see us go back to all paper ballots.  I think it&#8217;s ridiculous that our republican democracy hinges on whether a machine somewhere has been stealth-programmed, or was hacked, or has broken down.  The absentee ballots here in Ohio are simply made of cardstock and you fill in the oval next to the candidate&#8217;s name.  And if precincts are kept small enough it takes next to no time to count the ballots&#8211;I mean, we&#8217;ve managed it all these years before the advent of computer voting machines.  It ain&#8217;t rocket science.</p>
<p>(Even with voting machines printing out paper vote receipts I am reminded of some of the issues I have to deal with when making purchases at a store that prints out receipts&#8211;what if the ink runs dry, or the paper runs out?)</p>
<p>I also think that if you are an American citizen you should not have to register to vote, period.  You automatically have the franchise, even as a felon in some states, so why shouldn&#8217;t you exercise it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy with who won but I still think our system is messed up and I would like to see it change for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jonathan,

They also base it on exit polling.  The networks called the race at precisely 8 pm PST, just as West coast polls closed, with no returns coming in.  The exit polling gave Washington, Oregon, and California to Obama with huge margins, so there wasn&#039;t much reason to wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jonathan,</p>
<p>They also base it on exit polling.  The networks called the race at precisely 8 pm PST, just as West coast polls closed, with no returns coming in.  The exit polling gave Washington, Oregon, and California to Obama with huge margins, so there wasn&#8217;t much reason to wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Heimlich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Heimlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well assoon as the news came out that Obama was the projected president-elect, I grabbed screenshots from as many news sites as I could think of. I made a montage of all these screengrabs for those who might have gone to bed early. The full screengrabs are also available for anyone interested. http://www.russellheimlich.com/blog/screenshots-of-news-sites-on-election-night/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well assoon as the news came out that Obama was the projected president-elect, I grabbed screenshots from as many news sites as I could think of. I made a montage of all these screengrabs for those who might have gone to bed early. The full screengrabs are also available for anyone interested. <a href="http://www.russellheimlich.com/blog/screenshots-of-news-sites-on-election-night/" rel="nofollow">http://www.russellheimlich.com/blog/screenshots-of-news-sites-on-election-night/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/11/04/2008-us-election-results/comment-page-1/#comment-155094</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jonathan: Your answer lies in population density. If those 10% of districts are inhabited by a clear majority of the state&#039;s population, then they can safely call it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jonathan: Your answer lies in population density. If those 10% of districts are inhabited by a clear majority of the state&#8217;s population, then they can safely call it.</p>
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		<title>By: Katrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received lots of congratulations here from all over the globe, too...and last night in Times Square, it felt like New Year&#039;s Eve.  To not understand the uniqueness of this election is to lack a certain measuring stick, and a good dose of empathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received lots of congratulations here from all over the globe, too&#8230;and last night in Times Square, it felt like New Year&#8217;s Eve.  To not understand the uniqueness of this election is to lack a certain measuring stick, and a good dose of empathy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get all the congratulations and joy about electing a president.  it happens every four years.  i had tons of people from different countries tonight congratulate me on our new president, and i&#039;m thinking why are they congratulating us and me thanking them?  how weird? that&#039;s just me though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get all the congratulations and joy about electing a president.  it happens every four years.  i had tons of people from different countries tonight congratulate me on our new president, and i&#8217;m thinking why are they congratulating us and me thanking them?  how weird? that&#8217;s just me though.</p>
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		<title>By: Misty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wonderful time for Americans with this new leader!</description>
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		<title>By: TeresaA</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeresaA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I woke up this morning proud to be an American again.  Congratulations to our new President, Barack Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I woke up this morning proud to be an American again.  Congratulations to our new President, Barack Obama!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/11/04/2008-us-election-results/comment-page-1/#comment-154940</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just glad.I wanted to help so I gave money-more than I have ever given to any other campaign, phonebanked(with which I am not comfortable) and worked outside a poll in Virginia for 7 hours yesterday- standing all the time(except 2 bathroom breaks), in the rain some of the time. Yes, at the end, my feet were wet, my left leg and right hip ached. Today, I celebrate our new President, Barack Hussein Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just glad.I wanted to help so I gave money-more than I have ever given to any other campaign, phonebanked(with which I am not comfortable) and worked outside a poll in Virginia for 7 hours yesterday- standing all the time(except 2 bathroom breaks), in the rain some of the time. Yes, at the end, my feet were wet, my left leg and right hip ached. Today, I celebrate our new President, Barack Hussein Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slowth,

While the reason you give for the existence of the electoral college is partially correct    that rationale was long ago made obsolete when states started directing their electors to vote according to the popular vote within a state.  The secondary purpose for the electoral college was to inhibit the populous states from dominating the less populous states.  The electoral college still serves that purpose, but that can be changed without a constitutional amendment.  The constitution doesn&#039;t dictate how the states allocate their electors.  There is a movement in some states to form a union of states that agree to allocate their electors according to the national popular vote, turning the presidential election into a pure democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slowth,</p>
<p>While the reason you give for the existence of the electoral college is partially correct    that rationale was long ago made obsolete when states started directing their electors to vote according to the popular vote within a state.  The secondary purpose for the electoral college was to inhibit the populous states from dominating the less populous states.  The electoral college still serves that purpose, but that can be changed without a constitutional amendment.  The constitution doesn&#8217;t dictate how the states allocate their electors.  There is a movement in some states to form a union of states that agree to allocate their electors according to the national popular vote, turning the presidential election into a pure democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Wakboth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wakboth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woot! Congratulations, all you Americans!</description>
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		<title>By: slowth</title>
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		<dc:creator>slowth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Jason, since the Electoral College is included in the US Constitution, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going anywhere anytime soon.  The Founding Dads thought it necessary to protect the population from themselves, and I can&#039;t say I blame them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Jason, since the Electoral College is included in the US Constitution, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going anywhere anytime soon.  The Founding Dads thought it necessary to protect the population from themselves, and I can&#8217;t say I blame them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The electoral college has been obsolete for decades by now, and I think the only reason they keep it around is so that CNN, Fox and others have something to do every 4 years.  Think about it...if it were only popular vote they&#039;d be at home drinking with the rest of us.  Anyway, congrats Obama on winning, congrats McCain on such a respectful speech, and here&#039;s to the next four years America, cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The electoral college has been obsolete for decades by now, and I think the only reason they keep it around is so that CNN, Fox and others have something to do every 4 years.  Think about it&#8230;if it were only popular vote they&#8217;d be at home drinking with the rest of us.  Anyway, congrats Obama on winning, congrats McCain on such a respectful speech, and here&#8217;s to the next four years America, cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t get how they can &quot;call&quot; a state with only 10% of precincts reporting. I think I&#039;ll just wait until the morning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t get how they can &#8220;call&#8221; a state with only 10% of precincts reporting. I think I&#8217;ll just wait until the morning!</p>
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		<title>By: slackerjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>slackerjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, the election is just the start of my pain and misery. My mom has a massive crush on Barack Obama. Yeah, he&#039;s the same age as my brother. No, that&#039;s not weird at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, the election is just the start of my pain and misery. My mom has a massive crush on Barack Obama. Yeah, he&#8217;s the same age as my brother. No, that&#8217;s not weird at all.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha. I can&#039;t even get my map to load! So much for circumventing the other news sites. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha. I can&#8217;t even get my map to load! So much for circumventing the other news sites. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: A. Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sticking to the news and it looks like Obama will be the next President.
Cheers,
A Dawn Journal
www.adawnjournal.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sticking to the news and it looks like Obama will be the next President.<br />
Cheers,<br />
A Dawn Journal<br />
<a href="http://www.adawnjournal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.adawnjournal.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am stuck at work until 8 in the morning. I think the best part of this election is going to be the end of it. The media has been forcing it on us for 2 years. Anyways have a good party and I hope you post by the time I wake up in the afternoon. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am stuck at work until 8 in the morning. I think the best part of this election is going to be the end of it. The media has been forcing it on us for 2 years. Anyways have a good party and I hope you post by the time I wake up in the afternoon. Keep up the good work.</p>
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