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	<title>Comments on: The Irritation Threshold and Lifestyle Inflation</title>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/11/06/the-irritation-threshold-and-lifestyle-inflation/comment-page-2/#comment-158227</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, really right on! My car was just broken into and my husband and I are working diligently on the logistics of the needed repairs needed. But, had this happened to me during my college days, I probably wouldn&#039;t have been as frantic to get the windows fixed, and would have had a more zen attitude of &quot;this just means I get to explore more territory by foot&quot;. Somewhere in my hippy dream world, urgency has entered my conscience, and the convenience of driving to work has apparently become an essential element of &quot;adult&quot; life. Not the most green option, but our city is without good public transport and to commute on foot would not be practical due to distance and safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, really right on! My car was just broken into and my husband and I are working diligently on the logistics of the needed repairs needed. But, had this happened to me during my college days, I probably wouldn&#8217;t have been as frantic to get the windows fixed, and would have had a more zen attitude of &#8220;this just means I get to explore more territory by foot&#8221;. Somewhere in my hippy dream world, urgency has entered my conscience, and the convenience of driving to work has apparently become an essential element of &#8220;adult&#8221; life. Not the most green option, but our city is without good public transport and to commute on foot would not be practical due to distance and safety.</p>
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		<title>By: La BellaDonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>La BellaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy, you are absolutely right.  I pay good cash money for other people to do things for me that I would have done for myself, without thinking twice, years ago.  Do you know - does anyone know - of a blog that deals with that specific kind of expense?  The additional expenses that are caused by long-term pain?  Robert talks about going to the grocery store instead of calling the pizza place, and most of the time going to the store seems like an overwhelming ordeal to me.  Chronic pain is expensive; no two ways about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy, you are absolutely right.  I pay good cash money for other people to do things for me that I would have done for myself, without thinking twice, years ago.  Do you know &#8211; does anyone know &#8211; of a blog that deals with that specific kind of expense?  The additional expenses that are caused by long-term pain?  Robert talks about going to the grocery store instead of calling the pizza place, and most of the time going to the store seems like an overwhelming ordeal to me.  Chronic pain is expensive; no two ways about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is very perceptive. So Scott is suggesting that folks don&#039;t make a conscious choice to let their lifestyle drift up - they simply get annoyed more easily and feel that they have the means to make the annoyance go away. I never thought about it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is very perceptive. So Scott is suggesting that folks don&#8217;t make a conscious choice to let their lifestyle drift up &#8211; they simply get annoyed more easily and feel that they have the means to make the annoyance go away. I never thought about it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Allison (#33) is on to something. The irritation threshold doesn&#039;t just imply to our finances, it also has a huge impact on our environment. For example, Toronto is looking at banning disposable plastic water bottles and those paper cups that coffee comes in (or finding better ways to recycle them). It&#039;s too much of a bother for all those rich and very important business people working in the downtown core to wash out a mug once and a while. People pay ridiculous amounts of money for bottled water mainly for the convenience -- but since they can afford to, they won&#039;t change until the law makes them rethink their habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Allison (#33) is on to something. The irritation threshold doesn&#8217;t just imply to our finances, it also has a huge impact on our environment. For example, Toronto is looking at banning disposable plastic water bottles and those paper cups that coffee comes in (or finding better ways to recycle them). It&#8217;s too much of a bother for all those rich and very important business people working in the downtown core to wash out a mug once and a while. People pay ridiculous amounts of money for bottled water mainly for the convenience &#8212; but since they can afford to, they won&#8217;t change until the law makes them rethink their habits.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man deciding his jeans are too worn out? In what universe does this happen? ;)

My husband even insists his work pants are still okay, despite the rear pocket holes that allow his colleagues to play &quot;what color are his boxers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man deciding his jeans are too worn out? In what universe does this happen? <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My husband even insists his work pants are still okay, despite the rear pocket holes that allow his colleagues to play &#8220;what color are his boxers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tombo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tombo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice article, and thanks for the photo credit as well. :) Thankfully there was no rain while we were out cooking our breakfast. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice article, and thanks for the photo credit as well. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thankfully there was no rain while we were out cooking our breakfast. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time is money.  As we get older, time seems to pass more quickly.  Priorities change.  If paying a professional to do something and have it done instead of losing more time by DIY, then that gives you more time to spend doing what really matters to you.  Learning to know the difference between how to bank valuable time and succumbing to being a convenience whore is the true challenge we all face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is money.  As we get older, time seems to pass more quickly.  Priorities change.  If paying a professional to do something and have it done instead of losing more time by DIY, then that gives you more time to spend doing what really matters to you.  Learning to know the difference between how to bank valuable time and succumbing to being a convenience whore is the true challenge we all face.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best post ever!  Thanks JD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best post ever!  Thanks JD.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/11/06/the-irritation-threshold-and-lifestyle-inflation/comment-page-2/#comment-155244</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a marvelous post! My Irritation Point varies wildly on a daily basis depending on the amount of pain I&#039;m in and the physical exhaustion I&#039;m experiencing due to the pain. For example, on a good day, I&#039;m cookin&#039; those beans, sauteein&#039; those greens and we&#039;re eating healthy for dinner. On a not-so-good day I&#039;m heating up burritos I froze from the last time I made them. On a crummy day I&#039;m asking one of the older kids to boil some pasta and toss a salad and on a really stinko day I&#039;m phoning Papa John&#039;s. 

The kicker is that for all 7 of us, the difference in price between a good day and a stinko day could be $25. For one meal.

Pain&#039;s a killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a marvelous post! My Irritation Point varies wildly on a daily basis depending on the amount of pain I&#8217;m in and the physical exhaustion I&#8217;m experiencing due to the pain. For example, on a good day, I&#8217;m cookin&#8217; those beans, sauteein&#8217; those greens and we&#8217;re eating healthy for dinner. On a not-so-good day I&#8217;m heating up burritos I froze from the last time I made them. On a crummy day I&#8217;m asking one of the older kids to boil some pasta and toss a salad and on a really stinko day I&#8217;m phoning Papa John&#8217;s. </p>
<p>The kicker is that for all 7 of us, the difference in price between a good day and a stinko day could be $25. For one meal.</p>
<p>Pain&#8217;s a killer.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post makes a great deal of sense.  Just last night I was working late and left the office almost 2 hours after I normally leave to come home. On the way home I found myself sorely tempted to follow the easy route for dinner, and call a local pizza shop to pick something up.

I was to the point of actually having the cell phone out and about to hit the button to place the call when I realised that for the cost of a pizza and some wings, I could pick up some fairly quick to make food at the grocery store that would yield 3 times as many meals (and even more if I actually spent my money on stuff that takes a little more effort to make).

It&#039;s easy to slip and spend money unneccesarily when you&#039;re tired, or hungry, or not feeling well. At those times we frequently find the &quot;irritation point&quot; used to decide whether to spend money shifted. Deciding to pick up some buns and make burgers on the stove, rather than buying a pizza, is not a &quot;big&quot; decision in my life, but it&#039;s the difference between spending $4 for a meal and $12. And it is the constant string of these small $4 vs. $12 decisions that ultimately make you a success or failure at achieving your financial goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post makes a great deal of sense.  Just last night I was working late and left the office almost 2 hours after I normally leave to come home. On the way home I found myself sorely tempted to follow the easy route for dinner, and call a local pizza shop to pick something up.</p>
<p>I was to the point of actually having the cell phone out and about to hit the button to place the call when I realised that for the cost of a pizza and some wings, I could pick up some fairly quick to make food at the grocery store that would yield 3 times as many meals (and even more if I actually spent my money on stuff that takes a little more effort to make).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to slip and spend money unneccesarily when you&#8217;re tired, or hungry, or not feeling well. At those times we frequently find the &#8220;irritation point&#8221; used to decide whether to spend money shifted. Deciding to pick up some buns and make burgers on the stove, rather than buying a pizza, is not a &#8220;big&#8221; decision in my life, but it&#8217;s the difference between spending $4 for a meal and $12. And it is the constant string of these small $4 vs. $12 decisions that ultimately make you a success or failure at achieving your financial goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jade Cow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jade Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very insightful post. I certainly remember this very strongly in the transitions from being a high school student with no money, to my first job in college, to my first &quot;real&quot; job.

However, I prefer to tackle the problem in the other direction. I want to set my financial goals first - amount for paying off debt, amount for retirement savings, amount for other savings, amount for bills. Then, with whatever is left over, I buy whatever my heart desires. It is &quot;free&quot; money because I already took care of my goals and obligations. If I want new gloves, then I get them. If I want a dinner out, I get it. I get to pick whatever I want most, regardless of its objective value. And if what I want the most at that moment is to put more money towards debt or savings, I can do that, too. I think it&#039;s important to have some &quot;free&quot; money every month to spend (or not) on whatever floats your boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very insightful post. I certainly remember this very strongly in the transitions from being a high school student with no money, to my first job in college, to my first &#8220;real&#8221; job.</p>
<p>However, I prefer to tackle the problem in the other direction. I want to set my financial goals first &#8211; amount for paying off debt, amount for retirement savings, amount for other savings, amount for bills. Then, with whatever is left over, I buy whatever my heart desires. It is &#8220;free&#8221; money because I already took care of my goals and obligations. If I want new gloves, then I get them. If I want a dinner out, I get it. I get to pick whatever I want most, regardless of its objective value. And if what I want the most at that moment is to put more money towards debt or savings, I can do that, too. I think it&#8217;s important to have some &#8220;free&#8221; money every month to spend (or not) on whatever floats your boat.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the discussion, I&#039;m learning lots from your comments.  A handful of follow-on thoughts have been spawned by this, which are now stewing around in my head.  I&#039;m learning lots -- I should share my rainy pancake days more often! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the discussion, I&#8217;m learning lots from your comments.  A handful of follow-on thoughts have been spawned by this, which are now stewing around in my head.  I&#8217;m learning lots &#8212; I should share my rainy pancake days more often! <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy,

I know what you mean.  My mom measured everything in gallons of milk.  I measure mine by my power bill.  By tying it back to something with meaning to you it can make the *value* more tangible.

My comment to Karen was because JD had a post a week or so ago about determining actual take home pay and translating cost into hours worked for a purchase.  When you look at this example of gloves it drives home the point Karen was making about *cost* being relative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy,</p>
<p>I know what you mean.  My mom measured everything in gallons of milk.  I measure mine by my power bill.  By tying it back to something with meaning to you it can make the *value* more tangible.</p>
<p>My comment to Karen was because JD had a post a week or so ago about determining actual take home pay and translating cost into hours worked for a purchase.  When you look at this example of gloves it drives home the point Karen was making about *cost* being relative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shara
It depends. I know a musician who counted in how many albums he could have bought instead: &quot;Nice jacket, but 3.5 CDs is a bit much...&quot;

I usually think in terms of future income. On the assumption that I can earn 12% on my money, each $100 invested gets me $1 a month. So a $3,000 purchase to me looks like $30 a month forever. That&#039;ll put you off a lot of purchases. Do it with credit card payments and you&#039;ll hardly buy anything on credit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shara<br />
It depends. I know a musician who counted in how many albums he could have bought instead: &#8220;Nice jacket, but 3.5 CDs is a bit much&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I usually think in terms of future income. On the assumption that I can earn 12% on my money, each $100 invested gets me $1 a month. So a $3,000 purchase to me looks like $30 a month forever. That&#8217;ll put you off a lot of purchases. Do it with credit card payments and you&#8217;ll hardly buy anything on credit!</p>
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		<title>By: Aleks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aleks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an incredibly timely article; I bought a new car today.  Well, new to me.

My previous car had a lot of eccentricities, most of them for the entire time I&#039;ve owned it.  The rear defrost indicator light didn&#039;t work, the fan settings were all offset by one increment, the trunk leaked, the stereo has recently just stopped working periodically, and something occasionally makes a squealing noise when it&#039;s wet.  All of that I can live with.

Now, however, it&#039;s started dying on the road.  It&#039;ll stall, then won&#039;t start for a few minutes, and after that it&#039;ll start right up again.  Earlier this week it died and wouldn&#039;t start at all, so I had it towed to the mechanic, but after a little while looking at it it &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; start for them, and after that they couldn&#039;t reproduce the problem and therefor couldn&#039;t identify the cause.

This is beyond my irritation threshold.  I can put up with just about anything as long as my car gets me where I need to go.  However, when it stops doing that and the mechanic isn&#039;t able to guarantee they can fix it, even with $500 of repairs, it&#039;s crossed the threshold.

So I went to a used car lot that had a 2007 Yaris I&#039;d seen on Autotrader, took it for a test drive, and I&#039;ll finalize the purchase when I get back from vacation next week.

One thing I&#039;m not sure about is whether paying for quality counts as lifestyle inflation.  My first car was 13 years old when I bought it, the last one was 10 and this one is 2.  Each time I&#039;ve basically bought the best car I could afford without going into debt, although this time I could&#039;ve bought new if I wanted to.  Is that lifestyle inflation or just prudence?  I hope that this car will last me 15 years, which will put the cost per year right around $1000, more or less the same as my other cars (excluding maintenance).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an incredibly timely article; I bought a new car today.  Well, new to me.</p>
<p>My previous car had a lot of eccentricities, most of them for the entire time I&#8217;ve owned it.  The rear defrost indicator light didn&#8217;t work, the fan settings were all offset by one increment, the trunk leaked, the stereo has recently just stopped working periodically, and something occasionally makes a squealing noise when it&#8217;s wet.  All of that I can live with.</p>
<p>Now, however, it&#8217;s started dying on the road.  It&#8217;ll stall, then won&#8217;t start for a few minutes, and after that it&#8217;ll start right up again.  Earlier this week it died and wouldn&#8217;t start at all, so I had it towed to the mechanic, but after a little while looking at it it <i>did</i> start for them, and after that they couldn&#8217;t reproduce the problem and therefor couldn&#8217;t identify the cause.</p>
<p>This is beyond my irritation threshold.  I can put up with just about anything as long as my car gets me where I need to go.  However, when it stops doing that and the mechanic isn&#8217;t able to guarantee they can fix it, even with $500 of repairs, it&#8217;s crossed the threshold.</p>
<p>So I went to a used car lot that had a 2007 Yaris I&#8217;d seen on Autotrader, took it for a test drive, and I&#8217;ll finalize the purchase when I get back from vacation next week.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m not sure about is whether paying for quality counts as lifestyle inflation.  My first car was 13 years old when I bought it, the last one was 10 and this one is 2.  Each time I&#8217;ve basically bought the best car I could afford without going into debt, although this time I could&#8217;ve bought new if I wanted to.  Is that lifestyle inflation or just prudence?  I hope that this car will last me 15 years, which will put the cost per year right around $1000, more or less the same as my other cars (excluding maintenance).</p>
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		<title>By: Shara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Karen.  I thought we were now measuring the cost for anything in terms of how many hours we work for it. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Karen.  I thought we were now measuring the cost for anything in terms of how many hours we work for it. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the cost of the new gloves has gone down.  What used to cost, say, 5% of your income for that day, now costs, say, 1% of your income for that day.  

Whether or not your irritation threshold has changed is a separate issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the cost of the new gloves has gone down.  What used to cost, say, 5% of your income for that day, now costs, say, 1% of your income for that day.  </p>
<p>Whether or not your irritation threshold has changed is a separate issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess irrational depends on whether that squeak is a symptom of a larger problem.  If you choose to tolerate or ignore the squeak without getting the squeak checked out, i&#039;m not so sure if you can make an accurate assessment.  however, i guess it was assumed the squeak is cosmetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess irrational depends on whether that squeak is a symptom of a larger problem.  If you choose to tolerate or ignore the squeak without getting the squeak checked out, i&#8217;m not so sure if you can make an accurate assessment.  however, i guess it was assumed the squeak is cosmetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a lighter note, this post really reminded me of the camping trips from Calvin and Hobbes where it is raining and everyone is in the tent except for the Dad who is out gutting fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note, this post really reminded me of the camping trips from Calvin and Hobbes where it is raining and everyone is in the tent except for the Dad who is out gutting fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erika - When I wrote that it&#039;s &quot;easy&quot; to be frugal when you don&#039;t have any money I was trying to make the point the decision making was made easy.  Sure, you could decide to go into debt but if you choose the frugal path you really only have to make the choice once.  Once you choose frugality, then you live on what you have.  Period.  

When you make more than is required to meet your basic needs, then *every* decision is about frugality and savings v. convenience and spending.  You have to continue to choose every day to be committed to your path.  You have to find your Irritation Threshold and consciously choose to meet it when you&#039;re tempted (by your own convenience or by your friends or family) to give in &quot;just this once.&quot;

I can only speak authoritatively for myself, but I found choosing to live within my means when poor much easier than I find choosing to live below my means today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erika &#8211; When I wrote that it&#8217;s &#8220;easy&#8221; to be frugal when you don&#8217;t have any money I was trying to make the point the decision making was made easy.  Sure, you could decide to go into debt but if you choose the frugal path you really only have to make the choice once.  Once you choose frugality, then you live on what you have.  Period.  </p>
<p>When you make more than is required to meet your basic needs, then *every* decision is about frugality and savings v. convenience and spending.  You have to continue to choose every day to be committed to your path.  You have to find your Irritation Threshold and consciously choose to meet it when you&#8217;re tempted (by your own convenience or by your friends or family) to give in &#8220;just this once.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can only speak authoritatively for myself, but I found choosing to live within my means when poor much easier than I find choosing to live below my means today.</p>
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		<title>By: djc</title>
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		<dc:creator>djc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jan - post 35

Sorry to get off-topic, but I have discovered that if I use toothpaste with sodium lauryl/laureth sulphate in it, I get a canker sore within hours. I now only buy the brands from the health food stores that don&#039;t contain it. Of course, they are a lot more expensive, but you only actually need a pea-sized amount of toothpaste anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jan &#8211; post 35</p>
<p>Sorry to get off-topic, but I have discovered that if I use toothpaste with sodium lauryl/laureth sulphate in it, I get a canker sore within hours. I now only buy the brands from the health food stores that don&#8217;t contain it. Of course, they are a lot more expensive, but you only actually need a pea-sized amount of toothpaste anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to the squeaky car.  It might be your front ball joint.  To your pleasure you may discover that the squeaking will go away.  To your displeasure after that point you may discover that your tire may become separated from your car.  Most likely while the car is moving.  This will end up costing much more to fix.  To check take the tire off your car and look for worn out rubber bushings.  You can then fix the car yourself or go to a mechanic to do it.  (This is where the essentially free to fix part comes in).  I understand and enjoy your article.  I too live in Portland Oregon.  I have seen the pleasure creep kick in.  I do not really feel like cooking breakfast.  I really like this or that.  Its too wet and rainy to ride my bike to work.  And as a result my savings are reduced, but then again I have saved a lot of money and I can afford some pleasures in life, I saved when I was younger and can afford to spend a little more now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to the squeaky car.  It might be your front ball joint.  To your pleasure you may discover that the squeaking will go away.  To your displeasure after that point you may discover that your tire may become separated from your car.  Most likely while the car is moving.  This will end up costing much more to fix.  To check take the tire off your car and look for worn out rubber bushings.  You can then fix the car yourself or go to a mechanic to do it.  (This is where the essentially free to fix part comes in).  I understand and enjoy your article.  I too live in Portland Oregon.  I have seen the pleasure creep kick in.  I do not really feel like cooking breakfast.  I really like this or that.  Its too wet and rainy to ride my bike to work.  And as a result my savings are reduced, but then again I have saved a lot of money and I can afford some pleasures in life, I saved when I was younger and can afford to spend a little more now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this &quot;irritation threshold&quot; is one of the top reasons my husband and I are 1. saving more money than others in our age group [mid-twenties] and 2. are happier because of it. We don&#039;t care that our furniture doesn&#039;t match and that&#039;s its donated from friends on from craigslist, that we have 12 year old cars with some dents and squeaks, that generic tastes or works just as good in almost every situation, and that we wear our clothes till they fade too much or get too big or small and not because they go out of style. 
Now with the lifestyle inflation component - I came up with a great way to avoid it for now. Whenever I get a raise, I immediately increase the amount going straight to savings so that the portion I get to spend each month on bills and fun remains the same as before the raise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this &#8220;irritation threshold&#8221; is one of the top reasons my husband and I are 1. saving more money than others in our age group [mid-twenties] and 2. are happier because of it. We don&#8217;t care that our furniture doesn&#8217;t match and that&#8217;s its donated from friends on from craigslist, that we have 12 year old cars with some dents and squeaks, that generic tastes or works just as good in almost every situation, and that we wear our clothes till they fade too much or get too big or small and not because they go out of style.<br />
Now with the lifestyle inflation component &#8211; I came up with a great way to avoid it for now. Whenever I get a raise, I immediately increase the amount going straight to savings so that the portion I get to spend each month on bills and fun remains the same as before the raise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a comment years ago on how much Bill Gates made per year/day/hour/second, and it was shown that, if Mr. Gates spent 5 seconds picking a $100 bill lying on the ground, he&#039;d lose money. Of course, it&#039;s completely false since his money is mostly passive now - there wouldn&#039;t be a drop in income no matter what he did...

But for most of us, there is. If you make $40 an hour, would it make more sense to take the day off and fix your car, costing you $320, or pay a mechanic $200 to do the work for you? As you make more money, your &#039;hourly wage&#039;, even not at work, increases. RD,PD recommends we &#039;live within our means, and constantly increase our means&#039; - another way of looking at Lifestyle Inflation.

The point, to me, is to make it a conscious process, so you are choosing what to spend on, and where that Irritation Threshold is. It has been shown that tolerance is a muscle too, and dealing with frustration will a)make you more able to deal with it in the future, and b)fatigued and less able to deal with more right away...

And as has come up here several times in the comments, the emotional payback is as important as the financial one. On a sliding scale. Depending on your emotional state. And your finances.

Thanks for the thought-provoking article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a comment years ago on how much Bill Gates made per year/day/hour/second, and it was shown that, if Mr. Gates spent 5 seconds picking a $100 bill lying on the ground, he&#8217;d lose money. Of course, it&#8217;s completely false since his money is mostly passive now &#8211; there wouldn&#8217;t be a drop in income no matter what he did&#8230;</p>
<p>But for most of us, there is. If you make $40 an hour, would it make more sense to take the day off and fix your car, costing you $320, or pay a mechanic $200 to do the work for you? As you make more money, your &#8216;hourly wage&#8217;, even not at work, increases. RD,PD recommends we &#8216;live within our means, and constantly increase our means&#8217; &#8211; another way of looking at Lifestyle Inflation.</p>
<p>The point, to me, is to make it a conscious process, so you are choosing what to spend on, and where that Irritation Threshold is. It has been shown that tolerance is a muscle too, and dealing with frustration will a)make you more able to deal with it in the future, and b)fatigued and less able to deal with more right away&#8230;</p>
<p>And as has come up here several times in the comments, the emotional payback is as important as the financial one. On a sliding scale. Depending on your emotional state. And your finances.</p>
<p>Thanks for the thought-provoking article!</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an illustration of the idea that stuff is worth exactly what you are willing to pay for it. For me, the specific example is toothpaste. I have always been prone to outbreaks of painful canker sores. I have found that (here&#039;s my unsolicited commercial) Rembrandt canker sore prevention toothbreaks significantly reduces the incidence and severity of outbreaks. But the stuff costs like $7.99 a tube. It&#039;s hard to pay that much when it&#039;s right next to a toothpaste that costs 99 cents, especially when I&#039;m rinsing out sandwich baggies to use them again! But if I have a canker sore, and I could pay $20 or $30 to make it go away right now, I&#039;d fork over that money so fast it would make your head spin. That&#039;s my irritation threshold, and I&#039;m sticking to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an illustration of the idea that stuff is worth exactly what you are willing to pay for it. For me, the specific example is toothpaste. I have always been prone to outbreaks of painful canker sores. I have found that (here&#8217;s my unsolicited commercial) Rembrandt canker sore prevention toothbreaks significantly reduces the incidence and severity of outbreaks. But the stuff costs like $7.99 a tube. It&#8217;s hard to pay that much when it&#8217;s right next to a toothpaste that costs 99 cents, especially when I&#8217;m rinsing out sandwich baggies to use them again! But if I have a canker sore, and I could pay $20 or $30 to make it go away right now, I&#8217;d fork over that money so fast it would make your head spin. That&#8217;s my irritation threshold, and I&#8217;m sticking to it!</p>
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		<title>By: RenaissanceTrophyWife</title>
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		<dc:creator>RenaissanceTrophyWife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for raising this issue.

Irritation is definitely something we&#039;d all like to eliminate, but I don&#039;t think you necessarily need to beat yourself up too much over lifestyle drift.  

What in the world are we saving money for, if not to provide comfort for ourselves and our families?  The definition of comfort will vary widely, and can include educational opportunities, dry toes, McMansions, new gloves, healthcare, or a steaming hot cup of cocoa.

You worked hard to progress in your career to a point where you can afford extra comforts.  Why not reward yourself?  The small perk may help keep you motivated to be frugal on a larger scale.

When I was a poor student, I had lots of time and little money.  Now that I&#039;m making much more money (or rather, not digging further into debt), I want to enjoy the time I do have.  While mostly that means free activities like reading, playing tennis, or just catching up with friends, I don&#039;t feel guilty if I reward myself with a massage maybe twice a year (usually at a massage school) for meeting/exceeding my savings goals.

That goes a lot further than just eliminating irritation-- but it makes me happy and relaxed.  As Mastercard would say: &quot;Priceless.&quot; ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for raising this issue.</p>
<p>Irritation is definitely something we&#8217;d all like to eliminate, but I don&#8217;t think you necessarily need to beat yourself up too much over lifestyle drift.  </p>
<p>What in the world are we saving money for, if not to provide comfort for ourselves and our families?  The definition of comfort will vary widely, and can include educational opportunities, dry toes, McMansions, new gloves, healthcare, or a steaming hot cup of cocoa.</p>
<p>You worked hard to progress in your career to a point where you can afford extra comforts.  Why not reward yourself?  The small perk may help keep you motivated to be frugal on a larger scale.</p>
<p>When I was a poor student, I had lots of time and little money.  Now that I&#8217;m making much more money (or rather, not digging further into debt), I want to enjoy the time I do have.  While mostly that means free activities like reading, playing tennis, or just catching up with friends, I don&#8217;t feel guilty if I reward myself with a massage maybe twice a year (usually at a massage school) for meeting/exceeding my savings goals.</p>
<p>That goes a lot further than just eliminating irritation&#8211; but it makes me happy and relaxed.  As Mastercard would say: &#8220;Priceless.&#8221; <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the ideal of enjoying pancakes in the rain, not particularly because of its implications for frugality and finances, but because of its implications for not letting little things bother you, and enjoying the simple life.

My husband claims to be the &#039;voice of reason&#039; to temper my &#039;extreme frugality/conservationism&#039; (in his view). He often points out to me that my efforts to reuse things like plastic bags and styrofoam cups have little to no impact on the environment. And that my efforts to save money in comparison to our quite adequate salary are often out of proportion (i.e. I can make $100 in a hour, so why would I spend a half hour saving myself five bucks?). We have only been married a year so I have plenty of time to teach him that this is my philosophy, it makes me happy, it isn&#039;t about the specific logic of costs. 

I heard my husband&#039;s voice in my head when I read your post. He would say &quot;buying a new pair of gloves when the old pair gets worn is what money is FOR. Gloves that don&#039;t keep your hands warm are no good anymore. Which is worse, spending $5, or getting frostbite on your fingers? Buying a new pair of gloves because you want a red pair instead of a blue pair is wasteful. Spend your time looking for ways to cut down truly wasteful spending, rather than trying to avoid spending that is necessary.&quot; Sometimes my husband is right about things too. :-)

Your squeaky car is a different matter and a much better example of your concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the ideal of enjoying pancakes in the rain, not particularly because of its implications for frugality and finances, but because of its implications for not letting little things bother you, and enjoying the simple life.</p>
<p>My husband claims to be the &#8216;voice of reason&#8217; to temper my &#8216;extreme frugality/conservationism&#8217; (in his view). He often points out to me that my efforts to reuse things like plastic bags and styrofoam cups have little to no impact on the environment. And that my efforts to save money in comparison to our quite adequate salary are often out of proportion (i.e. I can make $100 in a hour, so why would I spend a half hour saving myself five bucks?). We have only been married a year so I have plenty of time to teach him that this is my philosophy, it makes me happy, it isn&#8217;t about the specific logic of costs. </p>
<p>I heard my husband&#8217;s voice in my head when I read your post. He would say &#8220;buying a new pair of gloves when the old pair gets worn is what money is FOR. Gloves that don&#8217;t keep your hands warm are no good anymore. Which is worse, spending $5, or getting frostbite on your fingers? Buying a new pair of gloves because you want a red pair instead of a blue pair is wasteful. Spend your time looking for ways to cut down truly wasteful spending, rather than trying to avoid spending that is necessary.&#8221; Sometimes my husband is right about things too. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your squeaky car is a different matter and a much better example of your concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I&#039;ve definitely noticed this trend in my own life as I adjust to post-graduation income. In college, frayed turned up cuffs on my jeans were good enough, but now I want jeans that aren&#039;t so worn out and that actually fit. Of course, that&#039;s not completely ridiculous since I wear them to work everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I&#8217;ve definitely noticed this trend in my own life as I adjust to post-graduation income. In college, frayed turned up cuffs on my jeans were good enough, but now I want jeans that aren&#8217;t so worn out and that actually fit. Of course, that&#8217;s not completely ridiculous since I wear them to work everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Misty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post, it was interesting. 

My husband and I used to be very frugal when we first got married--he was in the military and I was a full time student. Our income was low but we scrimped and lived within our means. Once our income crept up, our lifestyle changed and our frugality went by the wayside for a while. Just this past year we went back to our old ways because and we are much happier for it. Our washer broke about a month ago and we have been going over to my mother&#039;s house and washing our laundry there. Yes it is an irritation, but we want to save up the funds to by a washer. A year or two ago, we would have just ran out and bought a new one anyway and put it on credit if we didn&#039;t have the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, it was interesting. </p>
<p>My husband and I used to be very frugal when we first got married&#8211;he was in the military and I was a full time student. Our income was low but we scrimped and lived within our means. Once our income crept up, our lifestyle changed and our frugality went by the wayside for a while. Just this past year we went back to our old ways because and we are much happier for it. Our washer broke about a month ago and we have been going over to my mother&#8217;s house and washing our laundry there. Yes it is an irritation, but we want to save up the funds to by a washer. A year or two ago, we would have just ran out and bought a new one anyway and put it on credit if we didn&#8217;t have the money.</p>
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		<title>By: erika</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that I agree with the sentiment of several of the comments that &quot;being frugal is easy&quot; when your income is limited. If it were easy there wouldn&#039;t be such an abundance of consumer credit card debt!

I loved this post! This is something I have recently discovered and been pondering over in my own life. It&#039;s definitely a psychological issue. I find that reading this blog, the I Will Teach You to Be Rich 30-day challenge, and various other frugality sites helps to keep me focused on my goals even as my discretionary income edges up and my irritation threshold drifts down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that I agree with the sentiment of several of the comments that &#8220;being frugal is easy&#8221; when your income is limited. If it were easy there wouldn&#8217;t be such an abundance of consumer credit card debt!</p>
<p>I loved this post! This is something I have recently discovered and been pondering over in my own life. It&#8217;s definitely a psychological issue. I find that reading this blog, the I Will Teach You to Be Rich 30-day challenge, and various other frugality sites helps to keep me focused on my goals even as my discretionary income edges up and my irritation threshold drifts down.</p>
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