Practice, Passion, and Patience: The Secrets to Successful Blogs
Published on - November 16th, 2008 (by J.D. Roth) In his new book, Blog Blazers, Stephane Grenier interviews 40 prominent bloggers about their secrets to creating successful — and profitable — blogs. Some of those who participated include:
- Asha Dornfest from Parent Hacks
- Jessamyn from librarian.net
- Penelope Trunk from Brazen Careerist
- Ramit from I Will Teach You to Be Rich
- Trent from The Simple Dollar
- Steve from Micro Persuasion
- The ever-popular Seth Godin
I also took time to respond to Stephane’s questions. Here, with his permission, are a few of my tips on how to build a successful blog.
Stephane
What makes a blog successful according to you? Is it traffic, reach, revenue, etc.?
J.D.
I run several blogs. Each blog has a different measure of success. My personal blog is successful if it keeps my friends and family informed and entertained. I don’t need a lot of traffic there, but to maintain a connection to the people I know. Similarly, at my animal intelligence site, I measure success by how many stories I can find and share, not by traffic.
At Get Rich Slowly, however, things are different. My number one measure for success is feedback from readers: are people finding the content useful and relevant? But I’m much more interested in traffic numbers there. In particular, I try to build my subscription numbers. RSS readers are important to me. I’m less interested in pageviews and unique visitors.
Revenue is a secondary concern for me. Don’t get me wrong: the money is nice, but it’s not my top priority. I am grateful that I’m earning enough from blogging to allow me to quit my day job, but I’d still blog even if I didn’t.
Stephane
When did you decide you finally reached success with your blog?
J.D.
I don’t know. I’ve been writing various blogs for nearly seven years (and “on-line journals” for even longer). For most of that time, I’ve dwelled in relative anonymity. I guess it’s only recently that I’ve begun to think of myself as a successful blogger, and that’s only because doing this now can support me full-time.
Stephane
Which websites would you recommend for any new bloggers starting to blog?
J.D.
Steve Pavlina’s article on how to make money from your blog is excellent. I think it’s the best single piece of information on this subject. There are only two actual web sites, however, that I think most bloggers need to read: Problogger and Copyblogger. These sites consistently provide excellent information.
Stephane
Which book(s) would you recommend for new bloggers (these can range from marketing books, blogging books, etc.)?
J.D.
I strongly believe that the skill most bloggers — including myself — need to improve is writing. I don’t think bloggers need to read marketing books or blogging books. They need to read books about writing. I recommend the following:
- On Writing Well by William Zinsser
- On Writing by Stephen King
- The Elements of Style by Strunk & White
Two non-writing books that I also believe are useful:
- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield, which deals with procrastination and fear, etc.
- The Incredible Secret Money Machine by Don Lancaster, which is a late-seventies manual for starting a small business. When I re-read this recently, I was amazed at how much of the advice applied to my situation as a “pro” blogger.
Stephane
What’s your best advice in regards to content and writing for bloggers?
J.D.
Content and writing are two different things. I address writing elsewhere in this interview. As for content: be interesting. Try to avoid the “echo chamber”. Every blog niche has one. Among personal finance blogs, one person will write on a subject (“how to save money on cheese!”), and then there’ll be a ripple effect as other people respond (“my top 5 ways to save money on cheese!”, “why processed cheese is better than the real stuff”, “top 5 blog posts about cheese”). Some of this is natural — there will always be articles you want to respond to — but too much of it is lame.
To use one example: John Chow has carved out a very successful niche for himself. He has a good blog and some devoted readers. But many of his readers create blogs that seem to be solely responses to John Chow. Don’t do that. Let John Chow write about John Chow. You write about yourself and what is important to you. If you don’t know a damn thing about making money on the internet, then don’t write about it. Write about your paper airplane collection instead. I’d rather read a good blog about paper airplanes (or saving money on cheese) than to read yet another person responding to John Chow.
Stephane
What are your quick and short five best tips for blogging?
J.D.
- Take a writing class at your local community college.
- Don’t start a blog because you want to make money. Start a blog because you’re passionate about the subject.
- Write daily, even if you don’t post daily. Get in the habit of writing.
- Learn to edit yourself! I spend more time editing my material than I do actually writing it.
- Don’t worry about SEO. Search engine optimization does not make a successful blog. Writing content that people want to read makes a successful blog.
Stephane
What is the most common pitfall new bloggers generally fall into?
J.D.
Wanting overnight success. Readers and traffic come with time. You can’t start a blog for fame and fortune. You have to start it for love. If the passion isn’t there, the other things will probably never come.
Stephane
Any other comments or thoughts you’d like to share?
J.D.
Blogging is a dream come true for me. Not the blogging itself, but the opportunity it gives me to write everyday. I’ve always wanted to be a writer. I just never pictured myself writing about personal finance for the web. (I thought I’d write fantasy or science fiction novels.) Now that I’m doing it, however, I understand that this is what I’m meant to do. My whole life has been leading to this. It’s awesome.
You can read the entire interview — and 39 others like it — in Blog Blazers, the new book from Stephane Grenier. The author was kind enough to provide several copies of his book for me to give to GRS readers. I will send a free copy to four randomly-selected commenters on this post.
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I love your blog, J.D.! I appreciate the fact that you write well, but that wouldn’t keep me subscribing. I don’t have a lot of time to read blogs each day but yours is one I do read because it adds value to my life. It’s practical, focused, and positive. When I have a financial question, I search your blog to see what you have to say about it. I now am the proud owner of an ING account
and I am in the process of changing out my life insurance policies for new ones based on things I’ve learned, in part, from GRS. Thanks for great content and great writing!
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I loved the way you focused on honing skills as a writer in order to be a good blogger. One of the reasons I come back to this blog every day is because it is well written (and I also really like the content). Recently I was reading another pf blog and the author stated that he didn’t really care about or feel like taking the time to bother with editing his posts. It was obvious. I have since stopped reading his blog — the errors became distracting.
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I so agree with you about starting something for the passion instead of the money, you could say that about any career I think. The passion keeps you going on days when it’s hard to go to work.
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I would love to hear more about the “low” points you had as you worked to become a successful blogger. It seems like it is a combination of perseverance, dedication, and luck that gets you blog success — what kept you going? Any advice on getting through those points?
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JD-
Great advice about blogging. I’ve been messing around with the CSS, Adsense, WordPress and blog design, its nice to remember why we write.
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I’m breaking all the cardinal rules of using comments by adding nothing of interest, except that I’d like a copy of that book.
As with everything else, people that do best out of blogging are those that enjoy it.
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Way to push the idea of writing as something valuable that you don’t see too often out there. Seriously, so much of what’s out there means well but with the way it’s written just takes up space and my time.
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J.D. – Excellent and informative post as always. Having started a new personal finance blog myself, I might just have to pick up a copy of Blog Blazers as soon as it gets a few reviews on Amazon.
Being a professional web developer, I absolutely love the technical aspects of blogging, but I have to admit, I sometimes find it a struggle to create compelling articles – anything that can help me get over that hump is a winner.
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Speaking of Julia Cameron -Have you read The Money Drunk?
I meant to ask you that yesterday. Ten years ago a friend gave the book to me and it helped kick-start my journey out of debt. A year ago this same friend came back into my life just long enough to borrow a couple of hundred dollars from me to make up the difference towards a new laptop. She was over her credit limit.
She paid half back- I am still working out the karmic aspects of that experience in my head.
JD it was so good to meet you and Kris yesterday and thank you again for all that you do here!
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I enjoy your blog very much, even though I have never commented.
I’ve been blogging for over two years now and I’m still surprised at how many countries are represented.
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Great interview, insight and links (off to check out a few of them now). Thanks!
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I started reading your blog a couple months ago; it was recommended to me by an Internet friend. I can see why it’s so popular: very little recycled cheese and a lot of useful tips
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JD, I’ve been enjoying your all your posts. Your simplicity in getting your points across without sounding preachy, has really inspired me to think about starting a blog. I enjoyed reading about your experience with Blogging. Please keep up the good work.
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They could not have picked a better person to interview for this book. Congrats!
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Great tips about blogging and writing in general J.D. I blog because I love to write. I started blogging because it was a good excuse for me to commit myself to writing every day (although I don’t post daily.) Writing is like most things – the more you practice, the easier it becomes!
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This book is a good idea.
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Great post JD, and thanks for the mention.
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Good info. Thanks for sharing. You’re the first person I’ve “heard” say to NOT worry about SEO. Other people say to focus on content, just like you did, but I also see a lot about SEO. I like your point of view.
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I am passionate about my blog and my hope is if I do not give up, eventually I will be rewarded with steady traffic. My experience so far is blogging is not as easy as Gurus make it out to be even though there is lots of help out there on SEO and monetization of a blog.
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Well, I started my insurance blog recently because I saw a distinct lack of guidance and advice on how to approach insurance as part of your personal finance strategy. Consistently will likely be the key, so let’s work on that!
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What perfect timing. I just started working on setting up a blog today. I will be writing about small business (I’m a Web designer) on smalltycoon.com. It should be ready by the first of the year. This is all great advice.
Thanks!
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Wow! Great advice!!! Am new to your blog but am LOVING it.
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Great answers. I’d love to receive a copy of the book to see what others have said as well.
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Amazing advice JD! I’ll have to check out this book more.
-Andrew
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Great interview! You have some excellent tips about blogging, especially about the importance of simply writing well. They are very helpful as I work on my own new blog. Thanks!
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JD – Thanks for sharing your expertise and for focusing on the writing. Some of us hope that good writing will be enough to attract readers and feedback. I hope so!
Would love that book to read.
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Thanks for the useful information. I hope I get lucky and win the book!
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On an unrelated note, can I just say that I would love a blog about saving money on cheese? The good stuff ain’t cheap!
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Great blog post!! Your story is an inspiration to all of us newbies out here in the blogosphere. I look forward to your insights.
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I’ll be starting a site soon enough, and it’s good to hear that it takes a lot of work and still won’t be an overnight success. That helps give the motivation to keep working hard even when the results aren’t immediately available.
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It must be fate that I read this post today… I have officially started my own blog.
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I came across your blog by accident. I’m from a Third World country where most are just trying to get by each day. Your blog inspired me to create one to somehow share what I learned in my 37 years of life to my fellow Filipino. I am happy to say that I am living the life I wanted for myself not because I’m wealthy nor well-off. Far from it. I practice most of what you have to say in your blog, that’s why.
I am truly rich because i get to live my dream life!
And this is the message that I want to share via my web blog. I’m no technical person and all these web jargons make me crazy. I don’t know how to reach out to those who may somehow benefit from what I have share.
Please help. My blog URL is http://www.piggybanklife.wordpress.com
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You contributed some excellent advice there. I was kind of surprised at the SEO part, though, considering how much everyone plugs it. I have no idea where to start with it anyway.
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That sounds like a good read – nice that he made at least one good choice in choosing one of my fave bloggers.
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I’d say you are pretty successful if you are interviewed to be in a book about blogging
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The waiting for success, that’s the hard part. I love my day job as a software developer. I look forward to going to work every morning. But if I didn’t get paid, I’d be doing something else. I also love creating video tutorials for my webpage, o-shining-see.com. It is the creative aspect that really excites me. Since starting this in July, I’ve made less than $20. But it is nice to know that SOMEBODY finds my work worthwhile. It’s nice to know I’m not just shouting into the empty universe that is the web. I create my videos because I enjoy it, the money, any money, tells me the effort to publish them on the web is worth it. We are social animals. We need a connection to others. Financial success is one of the bigger ways modern society uses to identify that connection. I’m not saying it is the best way or even a healthy way, but money is a measure we all use.
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Wow, 86 comments already!?!? Promise to send a free book and people type in, eh?
Well you’ve already sent me a free book in the past and both my wife and I read it.
I continue to find your blog useful and your writing increasingly interesting.
Keep it up! and Thanks!
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Great insight– and thanks for the helpful resources!
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I am also considering starting a blog, so this advice is really helpful. My main struggles are a) coming up with a subject/theme for the blog that’s interesting to me and unique enough for my potential readers and b) committing to the time it will take to get it up and running and going…because if I’m going to do it, I want to do it well, whatever my definition of success may be.
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*blatent comment to try to win book here*
Honestly, though, JD, it is nice to hear someone SAY (or read, i suppose, and that being such, SEE) to the bloggers out there, to talk about content they CARE about. It gets SO painful to read and reread blogs about subjects that the writer clearly doesn’t care about. It turns you off to the topic at hand.
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I just started blogging, and the first book I found on writing was the Stephen King book, he recommended Strunk and White in the intro, so that’s the book I used(How can Stephen King be wrong??)
I’d buy that book just for the book question alone, assuming it is asked of all the bloggers.
-Nate
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JD, the timing on this post is great! I’m seriously considering starting my own blog. On my to-do list this week: ask the bloggers that inspire me for their advice. It seems you’ve beat me to the punch on this one!
Now, it’s time to start writing about cheese!
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Here’s another great book on writing, “A Grammar Book for You and I (Oops, Me)” by C. Edward Good.
Martin
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Good advice: Take a writing class.
I like writing but think that I have a LOT of room for improvement.
No one reads my blog but I do it anyway because I like doing it. I would like to write better and a writing class (or book) is just what I need.
J.D. – you can select me to win a copy of the book then I will donate it to the library after I read it
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I stumbled upon your blog via another personal finance blog a couple of months ago and I have really enjoy your content that you provide. I am glad that you were afforded the opportunity to write full time.
Thanks for sharing with us.
Sorry it took a free give away to finally say the thanks you deserve.
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I started a blog partly to become a better writer, I’m definitely going to check out the recommended books and I’ve thought about taking a writing class as well. I want to make personal finance a more interesting read, it tends to be a pretty dry subject. One thing you don’t get as a blogger is direct feedback on your writing style, ability etc. You may get indirect feedback, ie no one will read it if your writing is atrocious. Hey if anyone wants to come critique my writing please do, I could use the feedback!
As for success, it’s a tough road. There are a lot of blogs out there and not all will be successful. I put a lot of time into my posts, it sucks when no one reads them. But I can’t complain, I’ve had some really lucky moments in my young blogging career. I was feeling really low on Friday, almost no comments or visitors. Then in the evening it started picking up, one of my posts had been featured by MSN Money’s blog. I’ve been on a high ever since. Not to brag or anything, here it is
Underwater, but she’s riding it out
OK, I am bragging. I know I have a long way to go but I’m enjoying the journey. Keep up the good work JD, you’ve built something impressive here.
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Okay, folks, I’m closing the book giveaway now. I’m going off to random.org to pull the numbers, and will post them in a bit. Feel free to keep commenting, but further conversation won’t be eligible for the free books, I’m afraid.
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I am so glad to see that one of the books you listed is “On Writing Well” by William Zinsser.
That book is simply the best book on how to learn to write, by far; it is one of those books that I wished was used as a text in my college journalism classes many years ago. Had it been, I might have stuck with that major rather than switching to English (with a writing, rather than a literature, concentration).
Also check out another of Zinsser’s books called “Writing to Learn.” It is his take on the other component of being a successful blogger – writing about something you love with passion.
Great post!
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Your blog motivates, inspires and possibly most importantly helps thousands of people. Now how about that free book?!
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People confuse my blog by it’s name. The title is a parody (and the first thing that popped into my head at the time) and I just like to write about marketing in general. I listen and read on the web what people want to hear about or try to clear up confusion for them.
On SEO: my latest post is on SEO and marketing (I’m passionate about puzzles) and the funny thing is I just wrote it and didn’t even SEO the thing, and mention that as the last line of my post.
The potential is there but it shouldn’t be the only reason a person blogs as you mentioned. You bring up Problogger and Copyblogger it’s ironic I haven’t read either one really. They are just not for me. However some of Stephen Kings On Writing rules have helped me out. I read a lot of smaller scale blogs for fun and research, and the ones I read on a personal basis are usually finance and entrepreneurial.
Taking a writing class is a good idea. I took screenplay writing and that was useful. I’d like to add that reading A LOT and times that by 10, helps you write without having to think about it.
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