Ask the Readers: How Do You Talk to Your Loved Ones About Money?
Published on - November 21st, 2008 (by J.D. Roth) What happens when you take control of your finances, but the other people in your life continue to struggle? I’ve heard this question from two people lately. During the Q&A of my talk at the library last Saturday, one audience member asked:
You mentioned during your presentation that you had two friends give you books [when you were having financial trouble]. Is that how you recommend approaching the discussion to friends and families who need that kind of advice?
Coincidentally, Jenni wrote this week with a similar dilemma:
I’m so excited about getting control over my money, and when I talk to my family and friends, they are also very happy for me. But, as I talked to my mother and my boyfriend, I’ve suggested changes I’ve read about that they each can make. The result is they get angry, defensive, or hurt.Â
I’m not criticizing what they’ve done so far — just offering suggestions for what they can do now and in the future. But it touches on a sore spot. Should I just leave them alone, and only talk about my own finances? Do you have suggestions for how to talk with your loved ones about money?
Making positive changes to your financial life gives you a sense of power and control. When you’re in debt, when you spend compulsively, it feels like there’s nothing you can do stop. But as you gradually change your attitudes and behaviors, you eventually reach a point where you realize that you are in control. That moment is liberating. Like any new believer, you want to share what you’ve learned. That’s a good thing. But you need to be careful.
Sometimes when you try to share your new-found wisdom with others, they’re not as excited as you might think. Each person is in a different place. Though you may have friends and family members who could profit from what you’ve learned, if they’re not ready to listen, you run the risk of doing more harm than good when you offer advice.
Here are three subtle ways you can help those who are still struggling:
- Lead by example. Suggest cutting back on the family gift exchange this year. When you go out to dinner with your partner, choose cheaper alternatives. Start walking to the grocery store instead of driving. Bring home books and CDs and DVDs from the library. Don’t make a big deal out of things — just do them. Rather than goad your friends and family into saving, be an example of what can happen through smart money choices.
- Be willing to answer questions. When I was struggling with debt and poor choices, I could see that certain people in my life (such as my wife) had their finances under control. Sometimes I would ask questions. I asked my cousin about mutual funds, and he explained them to me. For a time, I even put money into them. (Then I pulled it out to buy a computer.) Be available as a resource.
- Use the soft sell. When my friend Michael listened to my complaints about money in 2003, he didn’t make a big deal out of it. He told me his financial story, and then mentioned a book he liked called Your Money or Your Life. He didn’t lecture. He didn’t try to convert me. He simply spent a few minutes explaining how he’d solved his problems, and then he let it go. A few days later, a copy of Your Money or Your Life appeared in my mailbox, and I knew it was from him. That was enough.
From personal experience, I believe that books can be a great, gentle tool to introduce the ideas of financial responsibility. Last year, I created a list of personal-finance books that make great gifts. If you can find a way to incorporate one of these (or a personal-finance magazine) naturally into your giving, it may have greater impact than simply bringing up subjects in conversation. But be careful! If done incorrectly, this can be taken as a preachy gift. Nobody likes a preachy gift.
I’m curious how other Get Rich Slowly readers have handled this kind of situation. How do you encourage your family and friends to make smart choices with money without making them defensive or angry? What mistakes have you made in the past? What techniques have you found that work? Does a person have to hit rock bottom before they’re ready to listen?
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It’s great to see this quick list of actions that one can do to support loved ones who struggle to escape from a crippling cycle of debt. One of the most helpful actions I’ve found is to sit down together with that person and simply look at the debt, from all of the different sources, aggregated onto one computer screen or sheet of paper.
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J.D., I lead by example. And I do answer the questions they have. But that’s really as far as I go. If they’re not interested beyond that, I can’t force them to engage.
Most of my relatives are younger than I am. And, being of that generation, they don’t have a lot of free time to read a book. Indeed, if they can’t get the information on an iPod or can’t find it on the Internet, forget it.
Personally, I would rather send them to a site like yours. They can get well rounded information here about finances. If they want to talk about credit, well, of course, they can visit my blog. Beyond that, though, they’re likely coming to a site like yours.
J.D., keep up the great work.
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Well, just the other day I sent my (adult) kids the link to this blog with the note that this was my favorite personal finance blog. One of the five thanked me.
After my oldest son got a good full-time job, he started buying a lot of electronics and “stuff.” I mentioned that I thought he should be careful with credit and try to save up for purchases, advice that he didn’t heed. I think one of my favorite moments as a mother was when he said years later, “Mom, you were right.” He’d been laid off, had little savings, and $15,000 worth of credit card debt.
My most difficult issue with finance and family was my Dad, who had some dementia. He’d seen a “estate planner” who put Dad, who was 85, into variable annuities. When the rate dropped, Dad wanted to take the $ out and put it in higher-yielding CDs, not understanding the penalties he’d face. Dad was at the point where he wouldn’t let me take care of his finances, but he wasn’t making smart decisions. Without my knowledge, he withdrew his entire IRA and stuck it into a CD. I found out two years later when the IRS came calling. At that point, he’d relinquished all his finances to me, and I was able to take care of it (pleading letters and phone calls about one’s elderly father with dementia do help). But I have no idea how I could have prevented the problems in the first place.
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All of you who’ve been disagreeing with me, I believe you’ve proven my point. My whole point was, whatever I or you or that person over there believes strongly, you can’t count on getting anyone else to believe it. You can try, but you may or may not succeed.
Mr. Nisall, your question about why buying in the Bay Area right now is dumb reminds me of the one Louis Armstrong tried to answer when asked what jazz is. His answer was, “If you have to ask…”
But I will field the question in good faith and say: Go read Dr. Housing Bubble, go read iTulip, go read any responsible work (even if it’s off-internet!) on how much the ratio should be between the price of your home and your income. Then look at any graph of San Francisco area prices in the past 10 yrs (and linger over some photos of what you get for those prices). They have indeed come down from their all time peak — which was stratospherically unrealistic. Now the prices are semi-stratospherically unrealistic. And they’ll be falling for another two years.
If my friend had a trust fund, then this income to price ratio would be less important. But unless she’s hit the lottery since I spoke to her, her less than 6-figure income (which she revealed to me) is what she has to work with. And I repeat, the girl in question is already financed to the eyeballs on car, toys, lifestyle. Even in “normal” times, that’s no time to be buying a house.
But, yeah. This is just how I feel and what I believe. Never said it was anything but.
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We’ve found that mentioning what worked for us but not saying, “you should do this” is less likely to aggravate someone.
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Just want to say thank you to everyone who has left comments! I think I will take the majority of the advice which agreed with J.D. … continue to strengthen my finances, share my successes (and failures) with my loved ones, and if they want to know more, respond with “I tried …” statements rather than “you could …”
I did email this blog and a couple of other resources on to a friend earlier this month, and got a nice thank you! So that’s a great idea.
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Family = wealthy, me = not so wealthy, so there’s tension.
Things I would rather do than talk about money with my family:
Lick the floor of a subway car during a snowstorm
Attend an autopsy
Read tax legislation from cover to cover
Watch “Taming of the Shrew”, in Klingon
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I think JD is so right here – lead by example – or like I’ve come across in a few places: clean up your own backyard before you criticize someone else’s weeds… I think this goes for fitness, money, health, education, etc…. you are best to get someone to do something by enjoying what you are doing, being successful and then being there to mentor that person *if* they want to be mentored; if they don’t, no worries either! Life is too short to worry about what goals other people aren’t reaching in their own lives, its barely long enough to get done what we need to get done without having to worry about someone who likes to wallow in self-pity!
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Guys, the comments on this piece have been incredibly awesome!
@Andrew #15
I thought that this was an excellent comment, and I was very glad to see the variety of questions that were asked in their manual. I had to stop and think for a minute about the debit/charge/credit card question, and I’m a fair bit older than a scout. I’m trying to remember if there were any such badges in Girl Guides but I can’t remember right now… Maybe I’ll go and look over my old badges.
@slackerjo
I do hope you live in a VERY snowy city
I do and I just about FELL off my chair laughing at this comment
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@ slackerjoe…THANKS for a great wake up laugh this a.m.!
Lead by example..best advice out there.
I tend toward shoving my most successful experiences (diet, money) down my loved ones’ throats and my financial score is one success(oldest dd), two not interesteds (Mother and youngest dd), and one happy with me but not participating like I thought(husband) though he claims success because he told me about Dave Ramsey. (He wrote down his daily expenses for about three days and now just puts his receipts in a plastic bag on the counter.)
Fortunately, my oldest dd is working, with a fairly decent income, and also talks with her friends about financial stuff, something I would have never done at that age. She reads this and other financial blogs so is always thinking about saving a dollar or a dime.
I continue to send links to great posts or good info to my youngest dd, even though I can hear a yawn the size of the Grand Canyon from across town when she gets my emails. If I don’t, then I’ll be accused of “caring more about K than me.”… sometimes you just can’t win.
My mother “misplaced” the fabulous spreadsheet I made for her that scheduled how to be out of debt by March of 2009. I have no idea where she is on this journey and has yet to acknowledge that my daughters are no longer charging gas on her gas card (a gift she gave them) or using her credit card (another gift she gave them) so that she can use that money toward her debt reduction plan.
But I digress…I’ve very thankful for this topic because when I first started this I had this bright idea that I would give all my oldest dd’s friends that were getting married a PF book, some money for a savings account and a note about how I wished I’d had a book or some education in this area when I first got married. I never got around to it and am now glad I didn’t. Might just have been too insulting.
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In regards to comment 3, there are good reasons for overweight people to be offended when someone brings up weight. Unless I am so heavy that I cannot move, there’s no real evidence that being fat in itself causes health problems. Also, the same bad habits that are blamed for overweight can be found in many, many slender people. For instance, me, when I was slender. It wasn’t eating what I wanted and being lazy that made me fat, ultimately. It was three episodes of getting higher doses of progesterone than I was used to: going on the Pill and being pregnant twice. So yes, if you start in on someone about their weight, expect them to be angry. If they aren’t, you got off lucky, and you need to mind your own business. If the usual approaches to weight loss really worked for most people, there wouldn’t be a weight loss industry.
Back to the subject of this post: I have given out two copies of YMOYL, but not as “official” gifts during “gift-giving time.” With the first one it was the old version and I’d bought the latest edition and passed the old one on to my little girl’s dad, who is a good earner but a profligate spender. He is in the habit of letting other people handle his finances (which doesn’t work out very well), so I figured he wouldn’t mind. He hasn’t read it yet, but doesn’t seem to have been offended. The second instance was when I had an extra copy of the book because of moving back and forth from Ohio to Louisiana, and I ultimately left the extra copy with my dad, accompanied by a note recommending that he read it. I doubt he did, but as close to retirement as he is and in as much debt as he is, I thought an indirect way of offering help might be called for. I don’t want to see him struggle when he should be enjoying his retirement. I know, however, that it’s up to him. so I have not mentioned the book since I left it with him and I do not nag.
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OK, I am the “meany” in the family. At least that is what my sister called me years ago. You see, I was the one delivering the tough message about income and expenses because I truely cared.
After my fathers death, I continued to give my Mom financial advice. If I suggested she go right she would go left. In her mind, if she deviated from my suggestion she would be independent. After a few years she was broke and in serious debt. Slowly she would listen to me some, but it never failed, that one of my brothers would step in a say “I will take care of you”. This prolonged the problem and it wasn’t until they failed that my Mom hit bottom and asked for help. I then turned suggestions into action and today she owns her house free and clear. This was accomplished without spending one dime of my own money to prop her up.
I have been married 12 years to a wonderfull woman who has cost our family 10s of thousand of dollars. Similarly, if I suggested to go right she would go left and take the advice of others, like realators. This has been an extra ordinary year in that she lost a heck of a lot of money in Real Estate. I gave her a book called “The Smart Cookies’: Guide to Making More Dough”. It is about how five women changed their money habits. It has been an amazing turn around. We now use a “jar” method to control spending and my lovely wife is making better choices when trying to increase our means while still living within our means. We have a long journey to pay off the debt we have incurred. I believe this is possible now that my wife and I are on the same page with regards to finances.
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I’m very lucky to have parents who were thrifty and managed their money well– and they passed those values on to me early, by involving me in discussions about financial decisions, and serving as examples by making smart choices.
Our dialogue about life goals, and how finances fit into those plans, has never stopped. However, the conversation now has a different dynamic given the economic situation. I have my own career, and am planning on supporting my parents at least partially through their retirement. In looking at real estate, for example, I’m considering places with easy wheelchair access and proximity to neighborhoods I could see my parents living in.
While my parents are already making responsible decisions about their financial planning, it’s easier on all of us to keep informed. Communication is going to be different for all families, but starting a dialogue and keeping it going is really one of the most important things you can do.
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This is a perfectly-timed article. I am struggling with how to deal with my parents’ finances. They are in almost $100,000 of debt (before the house they just bought that they cannot afford). They keep saying that they want to get out of debt, but then they make a credit card payment and run up the balance again. Or open a new card. Or buy a new car. Of course I care about them and want to help them get out of the mess, but I also know that they are adults that don’t need my advice necessarily.
What I don’t want to happen is for them to get to a point where they are so down and out from frivolous spending that they start to depend on me to dig them out (therefore jeopardizing my own childrens’ future). I know that is coming someday, and I’d love to help them get out of this situation so that we don’t even get to that point. I’m a teacher, so I don’t make enough money that I will ever be able to support other adults – I am working hard enough to be able to pay off my student loans, save some money for retirement, and put a down payment on a house.
I feel like there are three options, really – 1) Talk to them and help them fix it (which could go terribly wrong) 2) Prepare myself to say “No” to the parents that love me when they can’t afford to survive anymore after all of this silly spending or 3) Start saving now to help them out of the looming disaster.
Suggestions?
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Financial advice is always tricky, and I think it depends on the kind of relationship you have with different people.
The main person I give advice to is my mom. As with Mike C, it took a crisis to get her to actually talk about finances.
In this case, it wasn’t just her crisis of feeling the 1999 tech bust to her stocks, but the death of my father, who she was divorced from. It enabled us to have a good discussion with her about how prepared she was for her own retirement.
I will mention that she’s frugal with money in her checkbook, but somehow she just can’t handle investments in the same way, having almost a gambling mentality and really seeming to enjoy the drama at times. Very frustrating.
Anyway, based on our initial money talks and looking over her finances for the first time, I took her around to two financial advisers mostly to get them to talk her out of buying real estate with her entire retirement fund.
Although I made calls to every single financial place in the city of 40,000, NONE of them were paid by the hour. So I picked the two who answered my questions the best.
One of those people really was great. He talked her out of buying our father’s home with her entire savings account to rent out to a relative who has a track record of not paying for things himself. For that advice alone I would have gladly paid a fee.
The adviser also looked over her two annuities and confirmed my fears that she was locked into her decisions and couldn’t recommend her changing them for a few years until some clauses in the annuities kicked in.
No fees were paid for this good advice, since they were paid on commission and we didn’t buy something.
My mom still has her moments, so monitoring what she plans to do with her money every few months is extremely crucial. On big issues I will continually nag her and enlist one of my brothers to work on her until she follows my advice or it’s too late.
Examples of the drama over the last few years: 1) spending a year finally talking her out of co-signing a loan (for the relative she wanted to buy the house and rent to), 2) finally getting her to moving her variable annuities out of 100% stocks after her retirement last year and into some bonds , 3) talking her OUT of trying to time the down market last spring and rebuying those stocks.
I recently read about how many people aged 55-65 don’t understand the risk for their 401(k) money and keep it all in stocks just like she did.
Things like this I have to continually follow up on and emphasize that any major decision that she should ask me first BEFORE she does it rather than complaining about it after wards. I lavish praise on her when she finally does something. Also, pointing out when my choices for her prove right.
Among the minor things are trying to persuade her that it’s worth an hour of her time to track down the best CD rates every six months when they come due. “Oh, that’s so much work!” she replied when I told her she should do this. I do try to let these smaller things go instead of nagging about them, since they’re unlikely to ruin her.
Realize this is a long, specific ramble, but if it helps someone….
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My poverty fills me with shame, so I withdraw and don’t talk at all – just hide behind my keyboard.
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Good post! I think it’s important that a couple actually be in tune financially before they get married or live together. Once a couple gets in debt or establishes bad financial habits, it’s difficult to change behavior. So, look for someone who is like-minded when looking for a partner!
My two cents!
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I mind my own business and never ever give advice unless it’s actually asked for. If someone makes some comment on how well I manage my money, I’ll talk about it if they’re genuinely interested, but always in terms of what I do, rather than what I think they could/should do.
As for books – I’d give or lend a book if they’d previously expressed some interest in it – but never out of the blue. Giving someone a self-help type of book (including personal finance books) when they’ve not asked for help if tantamount to saying ‘I think you’re screwing up & you need to do this to fix your life’. There’s no surprise if that goes down badly!
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As our leader at the Course In Miracles puts it, “With love.” With compassion, and understanding of their specific life situation, and awareness that they may have very different lessons to get out of this life.
So I have a couple rules about this – general ones, not just about money. “There are as many paths [to God] as there are people.” (the Ghita), or what is right for you isn’t necessarily right for anyone else; and ‘offer unsolicited advice once’. So, for example, when I see my 4-year-old pointing a hose at himself and squeezing the handle, I’d say once that I wouldn’t do that – if he asks, I’ll say more; otherwise I’ll watch him get a facefull…
I almost lost a good friend making repeat suggestions while traveling. So now, it’s universal. I see someone doing something I wouldn’t financially, maybe I’ll mention a better way: “You know, you could do it this way…” If they don’t reply, or act annoyed, I drop it and change the subject.
It actually works well, because I’ve still put a thought in their mind that I have some ideas on money, and they’ll often come back later and ask a question. If not, they’re not ready now.
Another thing that helps is the realization that there are many -smarts: street-smarts, book-smarts, sports-smarts, money-smarts, art-smarts, etc. And money is only one, and no more important than the others, just harder to avoid. If you’re not ‘smart’ at sports, you can just avoid the topic – money’s a little harder to avoid, at least long-term. And pointing that out helps – money suggestions become not a criticism, but an acknowledgment that everyone has their strengths and can help out somewhere. Just go out of your way to ask their advice and acknowledge where they could help you. Everything is easier among equals, and we all are equal.
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@ Boomer:
Now substitute ‘inability to grow plants’ for ‘poverty’. Would that shame you? It’s just another skill though…
In my experience, shame is a great way to avoid acceptance and advancement. So spend time and get to know that ‘shame’, let it be okay to be poor, and from that state of mind, start learning.
And I’d recommend starting with ‘It’s Not About the Money’ by Brent Kessel. He spends a lot of time on money archetypes, their views on money, and what would balance each one. And really, that’s all we need – a little balance.
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No, it’s not okay to be poor when you start out with high aptitude. To whom much is given, much shall be required. I am a colossal underachiever.
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@ Jessica Right now it seems that your parents aren’t leaning on you, but rather you are worried they will be in the future. The only way I know of gently handling it is to make it clear in conversations that you are focused on getting your children ahead or meeting your own goals in life, and that you are hoping they are making decisions to do the same. This may lead to an airing of expectations so prior to really doing this I willpoint out that there are books out there (Dave Ramsey is always recommending one called “Boundries”, and Charles Schwabs has a book on talking with family about money) you can likely get from the library which can help you understand where you are and how to raise or discuss the issue.
I would like to think that most parents don’t want to be dependent on their children in their later years, but I also think many don’t know how to plan it so they won’t be.
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So what ARE you supposed to do when a person’s financial situation does or will affect you? My mother-in-law lives with us now, she doesn’t think about money at all and earns almost nothing. She is happy to have her son (my husband) and her daughter pay for her expenses, take her to dinner, etc. As far as she is concerned, her credit card balance is fine so long as she can make the monthly payment. She just doesn’t get the concept of personal finances – i.e. she doesn’t understand that eating at Panera twice a week adds up, or that she doesn’t automatically deserve to treat herself to x or y just because, when she doesn’t have the money. My husband doesn’t really care enough to talk to her about it past the bare minimum. Even if we did have another serious talk with her, it just doesn’t sink in. Her philosophy is “I can’t save much, so I might as well not save anything”. Obviously, her son and daugther will be responsible for her when she gets too old to work at all or has some health crisis. Even though I don’t think there’s much or anything I can do, it is so hard to sit by and say nothing.
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I also worry very much about my parents. They have been barely eeking out a living with their own business for about 30 years. They are in their early 60s and have no retirement. They just seem to have no sense when it comes to money.
I used to get very frustrated, then I heeded the same advice mentioned above: you are the only person you can control. Now I try not to talk about money with them if I can help it.
My parents are used to living on very little, so living on social security alone may not be so hard for them. And, once they qualify for Medicare, their level of health care will actually go UP!
We never, ever talked about money when we were growing up. All my mother ever said was “If you want it, save your money for it,” with no clues how to actually do this, and no example to follow. Plus, I didn’t have any money, so how was I supposed to save it??
My spouse’s mother is the exact opposite. She loves to talk about money and is very frugal. When my father-in-law died last year, she didn’t have to worry about money at all. She shares all of her money information with us, and asks what we think about decisions like buying a new car (in cash, of course!).
I want to pass on a legacy of good money management to my daughter, who is 3 1/2, so I plan to be open about money and teach her how to be prosperous as well.
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@ Julie B
It sounds like your first problem isn’t with your MIL but with your DH. You must be on the same side or what you think/say/do has no consequence (which is where it sounds like you are). But you have a right to put your foot down. She may be his mom but like with an adult child. Just because she is an adult doesn’t mean she is autonomous. If you are partially supporting her (even if it’s just room/board) then you have a right to force issues about finances. Perhaps you want to charge rent (or more rent) and put it into a fund for when you have to bail her out. Once again, you can’t do anything without DH and if he doesn’t agree then you have to work it out between you.
@ Jessica
I think there is plenty you can say without going into specifics. It reminds me of a friend of mine in HS when she got involved with a guy her parents didn’t approve. As soon as she told me my response was “Good for you. But don’t you EVER expect me to cover for you. If you give me as an alibi and your mom calls I’ll tell her the truth.” Since she never expected me to bail her out I never let her down. Have a talk with them NOW and tell them the same thing. “You are adults and are allowed to make your own financial decisions. But don’t expect me to bail you out. I can offer advice now to keep you solvent for as long as possible. But I won’t support you.”
You just have to be up front about where you draw the line. Some people don’t take it well, but it’s important to do it before it’s a problem because they will take it even worse then.
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Great advice! This is pretty much what I do.
I mentioned to my sister that I did my own taxes last year. She asked if I’d help her file her state taxes. This lead to a comment from her about finding out what student loans she all had and getting her finances straightened out. I sent her a link that will let you find all your student loans, although I don’t think she ever used it. I also showed her my own budget sheet. When I finish the financial program I’m writing, I’ll give her a copy. Whether she uses it or not is up to her, and I’ll surely never ask her unless she brings it up.
She was looking for some help and I gave her as much as she was willing to actually take and then I dropped it. She knows I’m here and willing to help if she needs it.
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I’ve told several people about your blog and other pf blogs It motivates me to read about others struggles and goals!
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I attempt to, but they’re not interested in it for the most part. I think this has to do with my age (I’m only 22), and that for some reason discounts my credibility and knowledge, despite going to school for finance. So many family members, immediate and not have bad monetary habits, it’s rather sickening. As the saying goes, you can only lead a horse to water…
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As the saying goes, “You can only lead a horse to water – you cannot make it drink.” You CAN however feed it a whole lot of salt…
I’d think the best way to get on this topic with someone who is resisting is to demonstrate just how well it works. Maybe take them to dinner to celebrate reaching your emergency fund filling, or $100k in your retirement.
As they see you doing well, the topic is a lot more likely to come up from their side.
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Now you all know how behind in my RSS feeder reading I am … but I know these articles have a great “long tail” readership and I thought that I’d drop in my AU$0.02 since it was something that hadn’t been mentioned yet.
I have been slowly sharing ideas with my Flatmate who was, when he first came to live with me, a rather profligate spender by my standards… although he didn’t have any debt he was living hand-to-mouth and really wanted to be saving but couldn’t quite figure it out. He had been talking at one point about wanting to save for a monthly public transit ticket, which would be quite discounted compared to a month of daily tickets. I just listened and nodded at all his reasons it would be cool to have one. Later that same day I mentioned dinner and he suggested getting something delivered instead of cooking… I did some quick mental math and pointed out if he quit ordering delivery twice a week, he’d be able to pay for his ticket in this many weeks. I can’t remember the exact numbers now, and I offered it as a semi-joke … I didn’t really expect him to go and cook that night and he duly ordered pizza and it was nice. But the number of times takeaway was ordered did gradually drop, and many months later I was thanked for the advice.
I think that’s my most common financial sharing tactic, because I’m always amazed at the way numbers multiply… sacrifice one your $3 daily coffees and save the money and you’ll have $1000 in a year! Having one less coffee doesn’t seem like much of a strain to most people, and the lure of $1000 can be impressive.
Obviously this isn’t going to be an immediate solution for those in acute crisis, but I think learning financial skills is like learning any skill – you have to start slowly. The “hitting rock bottom” method of changing may be inevitable for same, and can certainly produce rapid change, but I like the slow approach too
And I totally agree with all those people who commented about the “you can lead a horse to water” thing. I think it’s the inverse of the maxim about not lending money you can’t afford to loose – don’t share advice if you can’t cope with it being ignored.
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