The GRS Garden Project: November Update Print
Sunday, 30th November 2008 (by J.D.)This article is about DIY, Food, Frugality, House and Home
During 2008, my wife and I are tracking how much time and money we spend growing food. This is the report for November.
This month’s garden update is small. As winter approaches, there’s less for us to do, and all that we harvest are herbs (and those only occasionally). Our major garden task this month was raking leaves. For most people, this is simply yardwork, but for us it’s a chance to work on the vegetable garden.
Last year, we bought a used chipper-shredder. We use it to grind up the many twigs and branches that fall on our property, but in mid-November, we also use it to shred the fallen leaves. With just a few hours work, we were able to create a thick layer of mulch for the vegetable garden, which we placed atop the horse manure our neighbor gave us last month. In late April, I will till all of this stuff into the earth just before we plant.
Speaking of next year, Kris and I have decided that we will do this project again in 2009, continuing to provide monthly updates. We enjoyed it more than we had expected, and believe a second year of data would be instructive.
But I’m getting ahead of myself. First, here are the final totals for our garden harvest this year.
Berries ($225.74)
We don’t have a lot of berry plants, but those that we do have are good producers. They’re low maintenance and provide a lot of fruit for the space they occupy. I’m actually tempted to remove the 25-year-old blueberries to replace them with younger plants of a different variety.
- 12.53 pounds (5.688 kg) strawberries = $49.31
- 1.52 pounds (0.689 kg) gooseberries = $13.75
- 5.91 pounds (2.681 kg) red currants = $35.66
- 5.99 pounds (2.719 kg) blueberries = $27.14
- 26.51 (12.035 kg) caneberries (blackberries, raspberries, etc.) = $99.88
- 6 pints elderberries, for which we still have no value
Vegetables ($294.59)
Our vegetable crop was stunted this year by the lousy weather in Oregon’s Willamette Valley. We’re not the only ones who suffered. Nearly every gardener we know moaned about the poor yields, especially with tomatoes and peppers.
- 5.27 pounds (2.392 kg) snow peas = $26.87
- 2.50 pounds (1.135 kg) green beans = $5.58
- 11.03 pounds (5.008 kg) cherry tomatoes = $41.52
- 14 zucchini = $6.91
- 10 chili peppers = $3.00
- 7.44 pounds (3.378 kg) fancy potatoes = $7.40
- a couple of pounds of beets = $5.97
- 0.31 pounds (0.140 kg) red sweet peppers = $0.93
- one huge volunteer carrot = $0.50
- 18 ears of corn = $9.00
- 16 cucumbers = $7.86
- 9 acorn squash = $4.50
- 2 small pumpkins = $1.10
- 91.85 pounds (41.700 kg) tomatoes = $173.45
Fruits ($66.63)
Our fruit trees are young. We planted them four years ago, and they’re only just beginning to produce substantial crops. This was also the first year that the grapes produced a harvest. I’m tempted to pull out some of the grape vines to replace them with Concords, which I love. But as long as our neighbor across the street will let us pick his fruit, I don’t need to do this.
- 26.52 pounds (12.038 kg) apples = $26.25
- 5.64 pounds (2.560 kg) pears = $5.58
- 3.32 pounds (1.507 kg) Italian plums = $5.04
- 10.44 pounds (4.740 kg) grapes = $29.76
We also harvested at least $25 worth from our herb garden during the year.
Summary
And so we come to winter, that time of year when gardeners sit forlorn, gazing at the cold, frozen ground. Only the lingonberries remain to harvest. This year, Kris has started herbs from seed indoors, which gives her some sense of gardening. She’s talking about adding an Asian Pear tree to our small orchard. But mostly, now is a time to leaf through seed catalogs and think about the crops we’d like to grow next summer. Our dreams of August’s bounty pull us through the dark rainy days ahead. Here’s our year-to-date garden summary:
| Month | Time | Cost | Harvest |
| January | 4.0 hours | $27.30 | – |
| February | 2.5 hours | – | – |
| March | 3.5 hours | $130.00 | – |
| April | 5.5 hours | $28.51 | – |
| May | 5.5 hours | $110.89 | – |
| June | 7.0 hours | $0.79 | $50.83 |
| July | 11.0 hours | $20.94 | $123.68 |
| August | 8.0 hours | – | $123.94 |
| September | 2.0 hours | – | $152.75 |
| October | 5.0 hours | – | $155.77 |
| November | 6.0 hours | – | – |
| December | – | – | – |
| Totals | 60.0 hours | $318.43 | $606.97 |
Next year our costs will be lower, as one type of pest-trap for the apple trees can be reused. Just to be clear on the purpose of this project: This hasn’t been a formal experiment. Kris and I are long-time hobby gardeners, and we have set ways that we do things. This year, we are not trying to do anything different than we have for more than a decade. We’re not trying to be 100% organic (though we are mostly organic through our normal practices).
Nor are we trying to be 100% frugal. Instead, we’re just trying to see what our garden costs and produces based on our normal habits. We hope the results of this experiment will help us find new ways to economize and to improve our crops.
You can read about my goals for this series in The year-long GRS project: How much does a garden really save? Look for a year-end roundup of this project at the end of December.

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November 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I’m glad you are going to continue providing updates on your garden project next year! I’ve always found them to be very interesting and it has provided me with a few ideas for my own garden.
November 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
You might like to know that organic dried elderberries sell for about $20 a pound. I don’t know how many pounds that would equate to if fresh, though.
November 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Don’t take out those blueberries!!! See if any of the new types will graft onto that older stock,and in the meantime, just keep growing as much as you can. Of course over years you will realize so much more in fruit-profit; there are trades to make at work, and with neighbors. Gardening, besides saving money is great to help clear the mind, and you will be healthier all the way around. I enjoy the blogging, keep it up.
November 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
As a gardener, I really enjoyed reading this. I was living in the Willamette Valley until 9/15 when we moved to Idaho. I had to leave behind my loaded tomato plants that were just about ripe (it took forever this year!), my squash that were just starting to get big enough, my beets (I had a heck of a time growing beets in the Willamette Valley), and the rest of the green beans. I got a wonderful crop of snow peas that I froze plus I was able to freeze a bunch of green and yellow beans before I left. We are renting our house out so the renters got the rest of the haul. I have no idea if my eggplant ever produced, and I got two tiny peppers off two plants–that was a complete bust. Luckily, I hadn’t gotten around to putting in fruit trees and berry bushes as was my original plan because I prefer to reap the benefits of my hard work instead of the renters.
November 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
You’ve calculated your savings based on what the produce would have cost to purchase at your local farmers market - but since you have included the time you spent working on the garden, you should also account for the time you would have spent at the farmers’ market (don’t forget travel time). Or do you routinely go to the market anyway so there is no time saving?
November 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Of course, one of the other enjoyments of being a hobby gardener is the sense of wellbeing and enjoyment actually doing it (once the backbreaking jobs are over).
There’s nothing more rewarding than walking into your garden, picking a carrot, washing it with the outside tap and eating it right there and then. Wonderful stuff.
November 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
You can buy elderberries from herbco.com for $9.75/lb, I think that would be a reasonable price for you to use.
November 30th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Vintners Harvest sells a 96 oz can of Elderberries for wine making for around $31.95 at http://www.homebrewit.com/aisle/1205
I plan on growing elderberries next year and my price point for sale would be at least $5/lb for frozen berries.
November 30th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Thanks for the update on your garden.
I applaud your efforts to be self sufficient.
Your garden, though to some may seem relatively small, by comparison dwarfs my garden with its tomato & bell pepper plants and sunflowers.
I made the mistake of planting several zucchini plants a few years ago and got way more zucchini that anyone could ever want.
November 30th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
What a great project! I just stumbled upon the garden project and it’s really inspiring. One thing my brother does is add leftover food to his manure pile. He encloses his manure in chicken wire and will bring egg shells, vegetable scraps, banana peels, etc. out and throw them on the pile to help enrich what will eventually become his fertilizer. Might be worth a try..
November 30th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
I tossed the pepper plants a few weeks ago, when the frost killed them; the pots finally made it inside soon after. I can’t do herbs, though I’ve tried and the cat quite liked the chives before I found out they were poisonous. My main luck lately has been the worms: they are eating like it’s their job. And I got all the potato peels from Thanksgiving for them. That is quite a lot of pre-compost!
December 1st, 2008 at 2:57 am
I’m glad to hear you’re going to do this again next year! I was sad that this might be the last update.
Here in Australia it is Summer and we have a lot of veges growing in containers and plan to dig up the paving to start a raised kitchen garden. We also have veges growing in the front yard, which has led to lots of positive conversations with the neighbours. Priceless!
December 1st, 2008 at 5:54 am
The squirrels spent $0.00 and got 100% of the pecan harvest, but I don’t think there were many this year. I got some of the figs, maybe even came out even on the money since I don’t think they got more than a couple bags of compost, although there’s a fair bit of labor. I’ve never attempted to pick the elderberries since there aren’t enough for wine and I don’t know anything else to do with them, so the birds get those.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:42 am
Hi,
Great post. Two trees I would recommend planting are:
1. Fig Tree
2. Chestnut Tree
Both trees will produce tons of goods. Figs are a wonderful late summer / early fall fruit and be dried or eaten fresh. They re great snacks and or you can cook with them.
Chestnuts (the Italian kind) are a wonderful treasure. You can roast them and eat them as a snack or cook with them (you can even make flour out of some varieties).
December 1st, 2008 at 8:16 am
One suggestion for next year-
I think a better way to measure savings would be to track what you normally spend on produce and compare it, or do both what the market value is and that. If having all this delicious home grown food in the house also helps prevent chip purchases, for example, also take that into account. If you have the numbers try to compare what you spent last year to this year, or what you spend in months with no harvest to months with a harvest-it would be fascinating and might equal more real savings, or be concrete enough to motivate someone like me to do some gardening (although I’d have to do container gardening).
I love these updates either way, though. Thanks!
December 1st, 2008 at 8:23 am
I’m glad you’re continuing this next year… I’ve really enjoyed it, and it’s helped me dream about the yard and garden we’ll have some day!
December 1st, 2008 at 8:31 am
Great article series. I applaud your efforts. One thing that isn’t taken into account with your cost analysis is that your fruits and vegetables have a much higher nutrient concentration than those found at your local supermarket or even farmers market.
A University of California - Davis study highlighted the fact that fresh fruits and vegetables rapidly loose much of their nutrient value right after they’re picked due to oxidation. Spinach and green beans, for example, loose 75% of their vitamin C within 7 days of harvest! Many of the fruits and vegetables in your local grocery store are shipped thousands of miles from foreign countries, allowing their nutrition value to drop dramatically.
Your freshly picked garden produce is thus much more nutritionally valuable than any you could buy off a store shelf =)
December 1st, 2008 at 9:09 am
Very entertaining series. I’m currently trapped in a townhome while we wait for construction to begin on our house, and am having gardener’s withdrawal as we speak.
Charlies comment reminded me of an article I read years ago on sweet corn. The natural sugar in the kernels begin converting into starch as soon as you separate the ear from the stalk. I’d put a pot of water on the stove, and as soon as it started to boil I’d go out to the garden and grab a few ears of corn, shucking them on my way back into the house, leaving a trail of husks behind me. That was the sweetest corn I’ve ever had.
December 1st, 2008 at 11:27 am
I hope you reconsider pulling the blueberries. It’s been my experience that even in good climates it takes years to get the plants producing well and in my Southern California climate I still count the individual berries at harvest. You seem to have great mix of berries and I’m curious what you feel you’re missing. I hope you let us know what you decided when you update this next year. Thanks for this series.
December 1st, 2008 at 11:45 am
Perhaps you could get a value on the elderberries by pricing herbal remedies for colds.
December 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm
When we moved I was going to start a garden, then found out it is illegal in our neighborhood due to bears. Leaving out anything that can attract bears is illegal. That includes: gardens, dog/cat food, birdfeeders, hummingbird feeders, compost, and trash. We found all of this out when the neighborhood dog we thought was getting into our trash turned out to be a black bear. The forest service guy was very nice but we were still bummed about the fact that we have to store all waste in our garage from May to October until the morning our trash guys come through or we take a trip to the dump.
December 1st, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I enjoy the garden updates, I did a little tracking of my garden this year but stopped after I realized I was having a really poor year. My tomatoes got wiped out by evil caterpillars, the eggplants failed to thrive, even my zucchini did poorly. Maybe next year I’ll keep a better tally. One advantage I have in So Cal, my summer garden is still going. The tomatoes have started to recover and I have tons of green tomatoes on the plants. If we don’t get a hard frost my plants will keep producing till spring, albeit smaller yields.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Congratulations on your project. I have been following your progress off and on.
Something that you might want to emphasize too is the value of more vibrant and flavorful food that is gained through home gardening. There is no way that you can find better tasting food, than than coming from your own garden. Also, you should consider including the reduced cost due to less trips to the grocer, or at very least, spending less time at the grocer. There is also another rather difficult but irreplaceable value in gardening your own food; teaching your children where food comes from and the responsibility,value, and reward that comes from that labor. In compounded value, that teaching opportunity makes all other costs and gains look like chump change.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Heh, from a financial perspective, you are working for about $5 an hour. You spent 60 hours this year, and saved almost $300 in groceries…
Not that that’s the whole picture, just an important perspective to keep in mind. My wife and I were given a bag of (somewhat…) fresh Salad Greens, and spent an hour last night picking through it. We could have bought a fresh one for $5, so we were working for $2.50 an hour. However, we had nothing else that needed to be done, and I enjoyed the close time with my wife, so it was definitely worth it.
It’s good to have a feel for what you’re worth, though, and hold it up to projects like this. Could someone do it for cheaper, and/or better quality? Is there other worth in the project - sense of accomplishment, quality time with someone important, it’s an enjoyable hobby, …
On that note, my wife had a nice sense of accomplishment at the end. Me, not so much, as my interest was in spending time with her, not in the specific project.
December 30th, 2008 at 10:22 am
JD:
I’m reading a great book, called The Four-Season Harvest - by Eliot Coleman, that talks about extending the harvest season using cold frames and plastic covered tunnels. I’ll bet you and Chris could stop dreaming about gardening and do it year round next year (as I hope to do).
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Wishing you a prosperous New Year!
Daiko
January 20th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
From the north Oregon coast - just linked here from Money Ning. Wanted to say that I have put in a lot of edible landscaping in addition to the garden.
Am enjoying winter veggies now - still fresh and doing well in the garden in January - Swiss Chard, celery, rutabaga, brussel sprouts, parsnips, turnips,carrots, and kale. Nice to have fresh veggies still available right outside my door
Plus have spaghetti squash and potatoes still in storage, and plenty of dried veggies and herbs from the summer surplus.
In the permanent landscaping beds the asparagus is looking good, and the berries (about 8 varieties), while the rhubarb, chives, sage, and strawberries are asleep.
I also read Four Season Harvest, and heartily recommend it. For mini-greenhouses, I’ll be starting plants early under clear discarded refrigerator plastic veggie bins and meatkeepers - I think they’ll make good little greenhouses
January 20th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Marci-
Too cool about the edible landscaping! I’m getting ready to try early spring planting under a cold frame. Can it really be true that February 15 is a good time to start growing? We’ll find out soon. I’ll be germinating inside and hardening off before transplant…
January 20th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Daiko -
I planted Oct 1 some miners lettuce, radishes, runner beans, and corn salad. (NW OR Coast) I was very surprised that all of them came up and are still growing, except the beans which some bug decided to eat.
I’ve scrounged enough of those clear refrigerator crisper drawers and will be using them for the mini greenhouses. It may look funny, but the materials are free to me… and it will give the log truck drivers something to talk about on their way to the mill yard
Good luck with your Feb 15 planting. Freddies had coupons for 40% off seeds, so I picked up the few I needed today. The rest of the garden is saved seeds.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:53 am
i’m looking for a way to make my own upside down veg hanger any ideas I understand you had one last year don’t know where to look for it thank you
October 15th, 2009 at 9:56 am
You’re better off buying a share in a farm by joining a local CSA (Community Supported Agriculture). My wife and I did so this year, and for roughly $22/week over 22 weeks (total of $480), we received more organic locally-grown produce than we could eat each week. We figure it would have cost us double that to buy at the store, plus we were getting it fresh the day it was picked, and we got to see it’s progress in the field and talk to the farmer about her challenges. A backyard garden is certainly a nice hobby and good exercise and very personally rewarding, but for busy working people a CSA is a more realistic option.