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		<title>By: Richard Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grate post. I am the Frugal Oenophile and I think Gary&#039;s message is spot on: discover new wines and new tastes. Pinot Bianco, Tempranillo,  Malbec (which is in my glass tonight), Torrontes ... all fabulous and under appreciated g rapes. My only criticism is in the pronunciation of some of the European grape names (Aglianico is pronounced Al-yon-ee-koh).

Regards,
Richard Best, The Frugal Oenophile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grate post. I am the Frugal Oenophile and I think Gary&#8217;s message is spot on: discover new wines and new tastes. Pinot Bianco, Tempranillo,  Malbec (which is in my glass tonight), Torrontes &#8230; all fabulous and under appreciated g rapes. My only criticism is in the pronunciation of some of the European grape names (Aglianico is pronounced Al-yon-ee-koh).</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Richard Best, The Frugal Oenophile</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I highly recommend looking for wine tasting events in your area.  Many wine stores will have such events where you can try a wine (about 1/4th of a glass) as part of a series for a buck or two each.
Places like Central Market have free tastings on weekends.
These are excellent ways to get a feel for what you like.

Another way is to try out the Grocery Store wines.  You know...the 3 dollar ones?  It is fashionable to hate them, but Ive found several that I like.  There&#039;s several flavored apple wines that are great!  Blackberry wine is also good to me.  The investment is very small (especially when you can get the little bitty 125ml bottles to try it out)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly recommend looking for wine tasting events in your area.  Many wine stores will have such events where you can try a wine (about 1/4th of a glass) as part of a series for a buck or two each.<br />
Places like Central Market have free tastings on weekends.<br />
These are excellent ways to get a feel for what you like.</p>
<p>Another way is to try out the Grocery Store wines.  You know&#8230;the 3 dollar ones?  It is fashionable to hate them, but Ive found several that I like.  There&#8217;s several flavored apple wines that are great!  Blackberry wine is also good to me.  The investment is very small (especially when you can get the little bitty 125ml bottles to try it out)</p>
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		<title>By: La BellaDonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>La BellaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.D., I&#039;m not trying to be difficult, but one of the things I read here is &quot;cut caffeine! cut caffeine!  sodas and coffee are addictions and will SUCK YOUR WALLET DRY!!&quot;

Isn&#039;t wine, by and large, more expensive than, say, Diet Coke?  I ask because I drink Diet Coke, not wine.  I&#039;m not suggesting that anybody else not drink wine, I&#039;m really curious - why is wine apparently OK if you&#039;re frugal, but not caffeine?  One of the added benefits to caffeine is that it helps reduce pain; I suspect if wine is used to the same effect, it could cause some problems.  Or is there something I&#039;m missing?  I just wonder if it might not be &quot;save money on coffee/soda [because I&#039;d rather spend the money on wine]&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.D., I&#8217;m not trying to be difficult, but one of the things I read here is &#8220;cut caffeine! cut caffeine!  sodas and coffee are addictions and will SUCK YOUR WALLET DRY!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t wine, by and large, more expensive than, say, Diet Coke?  I ask because I drink Diet Coke, not wine.  I&#8217;m not suggesting that anybody else not drink wine, I&#8217;m really curious &#8211; why is wine apparently OK if you&#8217;re frugal, but not caffeine?  One of the added benefits to caffeine is that it helps reduce pain; I suspect if wine is used to the same effect, it could cause some problems.  Or is there something I&#8217;m missing?  I just wonder if it might not be &#8220;save money on coffee/soda [because I'd rather spend the money on wine]&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know there are numerous TJ&#039;s mentions already and I agree.  Rarely do I pay more than $6 a bottle and while not every one is great all are drinkable and you find quite a few gems.  Those gems are what we are all after.  Here are my Top 10 &lt;a href=&#039;http://jasonswineblog.com/2008/10/13/best-of-trader-joes-wine-top-10-wines-of-september-2008/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trader Joe&#039;s Wines&lt;/a&gt; now.  Enjoy!

Cheers,
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there are numerous TJ&#8217;s mentions already and I agree.  Rarely do I pay more than $6 a bottle and while not every one is great all are drinkable and you find quite a few gems.  Those gems are what we are all after.  Here are my Top 10 <a href='http://jasonswineblog.com/2008/10/13/best-of-trader-joes-wine-top-10-wines-of-september-2008/' rel="nofollow">Trader Joe&#8217;s Wines</a> now.  Enjoy!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, as always!

I didn&#039;t read through every comment so I don&#039;t know if this wine has been recommended yet or not, but my favorite wine by far is Banrock Station Shiraz.  

It&#039;s a $5 bottle of Australian wine you can get at Wal-Mart (at least the Wal-Marts here in MI carry them), but it&#039;s won numerous &quot;Best Buy&quot; awards for taste.  And for $5, you can&#039;t beat it.

I keep it stocked at my house, and never get tired of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, as always!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read through every comment so I don&#8217;t know if this wine has been recommended yet or not, but my favorite wine by far is Banrock Station Shiraz.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a $5 bottle of Australian wine you can get at Wal-Mart (at least the Wal-Marts here in MI carry them), but it&#8217;s won numerous &#8220;Best Buy&#8221; awards for taste.  And for $5, you can&#8217;t beat it.</p>
<p>I keep it stocked at my house, and never get tired of it!</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam @ 20:
&lt;i&gt;My family has also discovered Rex Goliath Pinot Noir, usually can be found for ~$8/bottle. Give it time and room to breathe, and you’ll be rewarded with a very smooth, drinkable wine that will go with most anything.&lt;/i&gt;

My kid sister and her husband turned me on to Rex Goliath, and I second the recommendation. Good stuff. Plus, it&#039;s named after a giant rooster, so we get to make all the expected, groaningly-bad &quot;cock&quot; jokes. 

My wine-buying strategy is ludicrously simple: I go into Trader Joes, look to see what&#039;s down to the last one or two bottles left on the shelf, and buy that. It&#039;s a completely idiot-proof way to pick a decent bottle of wine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam @ 20:<br />
<i>My family has also discovered Rex Goliath Pinot Noir, usually can be found for ~$8/bottle. Give it time and room to breathe, and you’ll be rewarded with a very smooth, drinkable wine that will go with most anything.</i></p>
<p>My kid sister and her husband turned me on to Rex Goliath, and I second the recommendation. Good stuff. Plus, it&#8217;s named after a giant rooster, so we get to make all the expected, groaningly-bad &#8220;cock&#8221; jokes. </p>
<p>My wine-buying strategy is ludicrously simple: I go into Trader Joes, look to see what&#8217;s down to the last one or two bottles left on the shelf, and buy that. It&#8217;s a completely idiot-proof way to pick a decent bottle of wine.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second what others have said about using Costco and Trader Joe&#039;s for value wine choices. 

I&#039;d like to add another: World Market has some fantastic deals on good wines at good prices.  

I bought two bottles of Pinot Noir for my thanksgiving meal (my personal favorite) -- both were $9 and both were fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second what others have said about using Costco and Trader Joe&#8217;s for value wine choices. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add another: World Market has some fantastic deals on good wines at good prices.  </p>
<p>I bought two bottles of Pinot Noir for my thanksgiving meal (my personal favorite) &#8212; both were $9 and both were fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When buying a case, don&#039;t forget to ask for a 10% discount - pretty standard at wine retailers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When buying a case, don&#8217;t forget to ask for a 10% discount &#8211; pretty standard at wine retailers.</p>
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		<title>By: catch22miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>catch22miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love drinking wine, but I am the only one in my household that drinks it.  Unless I had company over, wine would go bad before I had finished the bottle.  I purchased a small vacuum pump and rubber stoppers, and my wine will keep much longer!  I have saved a lot of money that way.  The vacuum pumps are not expensive and can be found at Target or at wine or kitchen specialty stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love drinking wine, but I am the only one in my household that drinks it.  Unless I had company over, wine would go bad before I had finished the bottle.  I purchased a small vacuum pump and rubber stoppers, and my wine will keep much longer!  I have saved a lot of money that way.  The vacuum pumps are not expensive and can be found at Target or at wine or kitchen specialty stores.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hollins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Hollins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had that tempranillo before and it is a good, inexpensive wine.  Also, Argentinian malbecs are one of my favorite wines at the moment and you can get lots of decent bottles for under $15.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had that tempranillo before and it is a good, inexpensive wine.  Also, Argentinian malbecs are one of my favorite wines at the moment and you can get lots of decent bottles for under $15.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best tip I ever got--and it works wonderfully--is to compile a list of importers that you can count on.  Once you have that, you don&#039;t need to worry about vintage or producer.  Just look for the name of an importer that you trust, and you&#039;ll probably get a good wine.

This doesn&#039;t work for domestic wines, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best tip I ever got&#8211;and it works wonderfully&#8211;is to compile a list of importers that you can count on.  Once you have that, you don&#8217;t need to worry about vintage or producer.  Just look for the name of an importer that you trust, and you&#8217;ll probably get a good wine.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t work for domestic wines, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am jealous of all of you have have places that compete against each other. As a Pennsylvania resident, we have to contend with the Liquor Control Board and whatever they feel like buying and putting in the stores. That is probably why PA is one of the largest Beer drinking states in the country. I bet that would change without the LCB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am jealous of all of you have have places that compete against each other. As a Pennsylvania resident, we have to contend with the Liquor Control Board and whatever they feel like buying and putting in the stores. That is probably why PA is one of the largest Beer drinking states in the country. I bet that would change without the LCB.</p>
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		<title>By: Tzctlpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tzctlpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to become familiar with the lingo.

Knowledgeable people in any field are called snobs by those jealous or ignorant about an art, but if you really want to become an expert in any field you will be called snob by other people.

If you are knowledgeable you are bound to ask pertinent questions about the wines you are selecting, which in turn may help you to save more money.

Fearing becoming a snob is frankly childish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to become familiar with the lingo.</p>
<p>Knowledgeable people in any field are called snobs by those jealous or ignorant about an art, but if you really want to become an expert in any field you will be called snob by other people.</p>
<p>If you are knowledgeable you are bound to ask pertinent questions about the wines you are selecting, which in turn may help you to save more money.</p>
<p>Fearing becoming a snob is frankly childish.</p>
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		<title>By: kar</title>
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		<dc:creator>kar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 2 points:


Every so often you have to drink a really good bottle of wine, if only to know what a really good wine tastes like (helps to have a friend with a good job, and an extensive cave)

One way to tell a decent wine at a lower price point is to go shopping on a Saturday and see which spaces are emptier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 2 points:</p>
<p>Every so often you have to drink a really good bottle of wine, if only to know what a really good wine tastes like (helps to have a friend with a good job, and an extensive cave)</p>
<p>One way to tell a decent wine at a lower price point is to go shopping on a Saturday and see which spaces are emptier.</p>
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		<title>By: John B. Egan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John B. Egan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like wines and live not far from California&#039;s Napa Valley. I also spent time in France, Spain and Italy. For the most part, Americans prefer a lighter and fruitier wine than Europeans, but you can find very drinkable Australian and Chilean wines. I find the Chilean wines heavier, and they tend to have a sediment factor that most Americans don;t appreciate. However, if you want an impressive red wine, look for Australian wines that are combos. I like Cabernet/Shiraz blends and have found Cabernet/Shiraz/Merlot blends for $3.00 a bottle. What is appealing about these blends is that (on the cheap) you get a great palate of flavors. Not too tannic, not too bland, not too sweet, not too fruity.. etc... You can also find similar whites, with a Sauvignon Blanc and Pinot Grigio blend in the same price ranges. 

Adventures in alcoholism!

jegan ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like wines and live not far from California&#8217;s Napa Valley. I also spent time in France, Spain and Italy. For the most part, Americans prefer a lighter and fruitier wine than Europeans, but you can find very drinkable Australian and Chilean wines. I find the Chilean wines heavier, and they tend to have a sediment factor that most Americans don;t appreciate. However, if you want an impressive red wine, look for Australian wines that are combos. I like Cabernet/Shiraz blends and have found Cabernet/Shiraz/Merlot blends for $3.00 a bottle. What is appealing about these blends is that (on the cheap) you get a great palate of flavors. Not too tannic, not too bland, not too sweet, not too fruity.. etc&#8230; You can also find similar whites, with a Sauvignon Blanc and Pinot Grigio blend in the same price ranges. </p>
<p>Adventures in alcoholism!</p>
<p>jegan <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i tend to spend around $20 a bottle on wine - apparently that is quite a bit for some, but i drink it so rarely that i enjoy it if i do have it... 
my favourite white is the kim crawford sauv blanc - very crisp and fruity (!). 

i figure you can&#039;t go wrong with an australian shiraz, as long as it isn&#039;t yellowtail. other than that, the shiraz is always spicey and for some reason the ozzies seem to do this type of wine well... 

another one of my favourites is a nz pinot noir... but i&#039;ve yet to find one i love for under $40 a bottle... if you can find them from the central otago region, they are lovely and rich..  but the marlborough region is also great too. 

i also have to add, that i think the prices in canada might be a bit higher than in the us for wine -we only have it available in liquor stores so i think they tend to bump up the prices a bit... 

oh, and another suggestion - get some cheap cheap wine, and make mulled wine! perfect for this time of year!!!

http://www.wineintro.com/mulled/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tend to spend around $20 a bottle on wine &#8211; apparently that is quite a bit for some, but i drink it so rarely that i enjoy it if i do have it&#8230;<br />
my favourite white is the kim crawford sauv blanc &#8211; very crisp and fruity (!). </p>
<p>i figure you can&#8217;t go wrong with an australian shiraz, as long as it isn&#8217;t yellowtail. other than that, the shiraz is always spicey and for some reason the ozzies seem to do this type of wine well&#8230; </p>
<p>another one of my favourites is a nz pinot noir&#8230; but i&#8217;ve yet to find one i love for under $40 a bottle&#8230; if you can find them from the central otago region, they are lovely and rich..  but the marlborough region is also great too. </p>
<p>i also have to add, that i think the prices in canada might be a bit higher than in the us for wine -we only have it available in liquor stores so i think they tend to bump up the prices a bit&#8230; </p>
<p>oh, and another suggestion &#8211; get some cheap cheap wine, and make mulled wine! perfect for this time of year!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wineintro.com/mulled/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wineintro.com/mulled/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ric k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty disappointing that this guy couldn&#039;t recommend anything domestic.  There are many great California and Oregon wines far exceed the quality of these he recommended and are often less expensive.  Additionally, purchases of USA products helps our economy.

Buy American first!!!  Keep the money here at home.

peace, Rick</description>
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<p>Buy American first!!!  Keep the money here at home.</p>
<p>peace, Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Fenno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Fenno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me STARTED on Trader Joe&#039;s. I moved to Austin, Texas 11 years ago, and seeing there are not yet any TJ&#039;s in the entire state, every chance I get to travel to a city inside the domain I take, with an empty suitcase for the ride home. You know it&#039;s an interesting story: Aldi, the quirky Euro grocer, owns TJ&#039;s. They are a family-held company with ZERO debt, and they only expand when they can do so without changing that philosophy. They finance their expansion the old fashioned way, with cash. Aldi is planning an expansion into Texas next year, and they often build in TJ&#039;s capacity into their Aldi distribution centers in this country, piggybacking capacity so that wherever Aldi stores are, Trader Joe&#039;s follow. Until then, I&#039;m flying to LAX on January 7, and I thank the commenters here who recommended wines to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me STARTED on Trader Joe&#8217;s. I moved to Austin, Texas 11 years ago, and seeing there are not yet any TJ&#8217;s in the entire state, every chance I get to travel to a city inside the domain I take, with an empty suitcase for the ride home. You know it&#8217;s an interesting story: Aldi, the quirky Euro grocer, owns TJ&#8217;s. They are a family-held company with ZERO debt, and they only expand when they can do so without changing that philosophy. They finance their expansion the old fashioned way, with cash. Aldi is planning an expansion into Texas next year, and they often build in TJ&#8217;s capacity into their Aldi distribution centers in this country, piggybacking capacity so that wherever Aldi stores are, Trader Joe&#8217;s follow. Until then, I&#8217;m flying to LAX on January 7, and I thank the commenters here who recommended wines to try.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is great!  He&#039;s so passionate about what he&#039;s talking about that I could listen to him all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is great!  He&#8217;s so passionate about what he&#8217;s talking about that I could listen to him all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Cathy at Noble Pig (www.noblepig.com). She writes about more than wine, but her wine posts are fantastic. Look at her left sidebar to see specific recommendations for wines and a wine shopping list. She&#039;s also wonderful about sharing wines that are a great value and talking about wine pairings (to avoid the gasoline factor, J.D. LOL). She currently lives in CA, but she and her husband are in the process of clearing their property in Oregon to build their own vineyard/winery. It&#039;s neat to see their progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Cathy at Noble Pig (www.noblepig.com). She writes about more than wine, but her wine posts are fantastic. Look at her left sidebar to see specific recommendations for wines and a wine shopping list. She&#8217;s also wonderful about sharing wines that are a great value and talking about wine pairings (to avoid the gasoline factor, J.D. LOL). She currently lives in CA, but she and her husband are in the process of clearing their property in Oregon to build their own vineyard/winery. It&#8217;s neat to see their progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a huge wine drinker, but I know that Cinetopia (in Vancouver) has some fancy-schmancy high tech wine bar that lets you try I think somewhere around a hundred different wines.  It has a little pre-paid card you use to pay for a sample and each wine will dispense something like three ounces of wine.  Something about the system preserves the wine inside the bottle after it&#039;s been opened for a long time.  It seems like a pretty inexpensive way to try lots of wines without buying the entire bottle.  Their website is here:

http://www.cinetopiatheaters.com/wine_bar/wine_bar.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a huge wine drinker, but I know that Cinetopia (in Vancouver) has some fancy-schmancy high tech wine bar that lets you try I think somewhere around a hundred different wines.  It has a little pre-paid card you use to pay for a sample and each wine will dispense something like three ounces of wine.  Something about the system preserves the wine inside the bottle after it&#8217;s been opened for a long time.  It seems like a pretty inexpensive way to try lots of wines without buying the entire bottle.  Their website is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cinetopiatheaters.com/wine_bar/wine_bar.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cinetopiatheaters.com/wine_bar/wine_bar.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ross Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Find a store that has good wine staff. Tell them what you have liked and ask them to recommend stuff that is similar. 

For folks in Portland Oregon, like JD, Great Wine Buys has a $100 &quot;case of the month&quot; that lets you try a variety of relatively inexpensive wines that they select. But you can often get good recommendations from some wine staff at places like Fred Meyer and Costco as well. 

Almost every store offers a case discount on full cases of one wine and many offer the same discount on mixed cases. So buying in bulk will save you money.

My experience is that wineries do NOT offer a discount on their wines at the winery. They charge retail prices and you can often find the same wine cheaper elsewhere. Visiting the winery is a good way to try several different wines before you buy. And you know how the wine has been handled if you are intending to cellar it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Find a store that has good wine staff. Tell them what you have liked and ask them to recommend stuff that is similar. </p>
<p>For folks in Portland Oregon, like JD, Great Wine Buys has a $100 &#8220;case of the month&#8221; that lets you try a variety of relatively inexpensive wines that they select. But you can often get good recommendations from some wine staff at places like Fred Meyer and Costco as well. </p>
<p>Almost every store offers a case discount on full cases of one wine and many offer the same discount on mixed cases. So buying in bulk will save you money.</p>
<p>My experience is that wineries do NOT offer a discount on their wines at the winery. They charge retail prices and you can often find the same wine cheaper elsewhere. Visiting the winery is a good way to try several different wines before you buy. And you know how the wine has been handled if you are intending to cellar it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve, been a Vayniac for about a year. Glad you discovered Gary&#039;s show, JD. He&#039;s a down to earth cat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve, been a Vayniac for about a year. Glad you discovered Gary&#8217;s show, JD. He&#8217;s a down to earth cat.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We enjoy spending the weekend after Thanksgiving touring open wineries. Last year, we toured Benton County (OR) wineries and bought a bottle of what later became an award-winning pinot noir. Having moved to another state, we again took the opportunity to tour small wineries this past weekend, tasting a bunch of different wines and buying several reasonably priced bottles. I enjoy the opportunity to taste a lot of different wines before spending my money. Plus you usually get free food and a nice drive in the country (thankfully gas prices are down).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We enjoy spending the weekend after Thanksgiving touring open wineries. Last year, we toured Benton County (OR) wineries and bought a bottle of what later became an award-winning pinot noir. Having moved to another state, we again took the opportunity to tour small wineries this past weekend, tasting a bunch of different wines and buying several reasonably priced bottles. I enjoy the opportunity to taste a lot of different wines before spending my money. Plus you usually get free food and a nice drive in the country (thankfully gas prices are down).</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo the comment by Sam who said to check out &quot;Wine for Dummies.&quot; Several years ago, I bought that book when I, like you, wanted to educate myself on the immense variety of wines out there. It&#039;s a very good book; one of the things that I liked about it was its humor, its factual and practical tone, and its very anti-wine-snob attitude. From there, I just started buying various wines I read about and sampling them. I live in Pennsylvania, so I am limited to our &quot;wonderful&quot; state store system (and their overinflated pricing). It also means that I&#039;ll never be able to enjoy all those great wines I hear about from Trader Joe&#039;s, unless I want to drive to a neighboring state. But by using that book, I did find a handful of favorites, even at the state store, that I seem to come back to again and again.

Some labels that I can remember at the moment, with an emphasis on big, spicy reds over whites:

Cavit - Pinot Grigio, Pinot Noir
Melini - Chianti
Yellow Tail - Merlot and Zinfandel
Nathanson Creek - Zinfandel
Egra/Bull&#039;s Blood - Hungarian red

These can all run between $7 and $9 per bottle for the 750ml size, maybe a bit much for those on a strict budget, but then, I try to buy when there&#039;s a sale, and I tend not to drink them every day.

I&#039;ve sampled some local PA wines and so far, I haven&#039;t been terribly impressed with any of them, although they are definitely less expensive (relatively speaking) than what&#039;s at the state store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo the comment by Sam who said to check out &#8220;Wine for Dummies.&#8221; Several years ago, I bought that book when I, like you, wanted to educate myself on the immense variety of wines out there. It&#8217;s a very good book; one of the things that I liked about it was its humor, its factual and practical tone, and its very anti-wine-snob attitude. From there, I just started buying various wines I read about and sampling them. I live in Pennsylvania, so I am limited to our &#8220;wonderful&#8221; state store system (and their overinflated pricing). It also means that I&#8217;ll never be able to enjoy all those great wines I hear about from Trader Joe&#8217;s, unless I want to drive to a neighboring state. But by using that book, I did find a handful of favorites, even at the state store, that I seem to come back to again and again.</p>
<p>Some labels that I can remember at the moment, with an emphasis on big, spicy reds over whites:</p>
<p>Cavit &#8211; Pinot Grigio, Pinot Noir<br />
Melini &#8211; Chianti<br />
Yellow Tail &#8211; Merlot and Zinfandel<br />
Nathanson Creek &#8211; Zinfandel<br />
Egra/Bull&#8217;s Blood &#8211; Hungarian red</p>
<p>These can all run between $7 and $9 per bottle for the 750ml size, maybe a bit much for those on a strict budget, but then, I try to buy when there&#8217;s a sale, and I tend not to drink them every day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sampled some local PA wines and so far, I haven&#8217;t been terribly impressed with any of them, although they are definitely less expensive (relatively speaking) than what&#8217;s at the state store.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all those who suggest local wines.  Oregon is the third largest wine producer and has some great options for you to try.
  
Washington is the second now (overtaking OR a few years ago), so I&#039;m not surprised to see many suggestions for both Columbia Crest and Chateau Ste. Michelle, which I love for table wines, too.

Agree with holding wine tastings both in your house and at the winery.  Also, if you really decide to get into it, wine clubs can be great.

Chateau Ste. Michelle, for instance, has several wine club options.  For locals, you can taste what you&#039;ve been sent at the &quot;secret&quot; wine tasting room that&#039;s separate from the main tasting room.  

There are two distinct levels of wine to be frugal about -- table/cooking wines and outstanding/memorable wines.  I&#039;ve found that price range does adjust accordingly with most of the really sensational wines starting around $20.

To find sensational wines:  try a recommendation at a restaurant (an especially good deal if they&#039;re by the glass), look at Wine Spectator recommendations (often posted at grocery stores), talk to friends, and ask the seller (here&#039;s where the wine store comes in first).  

Costco is a great deal on higher end wines, but not so much for table wines where I frequently get a better deal at Safeway when I buy 6 for an extra 10% off.

Also, try different grape varieties.  And fruit wines can be interesting.  We found a pumpkin wine in Illinois made by throwing pumpkins in a wood chipper and fermenting.  Tasted similar to pumpkin pie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all those who suggest local wines.  Oregon is the third largest wine producer and has some great options for you to try.</p>
<p>Washington is the second now (overtaking OR a few years ago), so I&#8217;m not surprised to see many suggestions for both Columbia Crest and Chateau Ste. Michelle, which I love for table wines, too.</p>
<p>Agree with holding wine tastings both in your house and at the winery.  Also, if you really decide to get into it, wine clubs can be great.</p>
<p>Chateau Ste. Michelle, for instance, has several wine club options.  For locals, you can taste what you&#8217;ve been sent at the &#8220;secret&#8221; wine tasting room that&#8217;s separate from the main tasting room.  </p>
<p>There are two distinct levels of wine to be frugal about &#8212; table/cooking wines and outstanding/memorable wines.  I&#8217;ve found that price range does adjust accordingly with most of the really sensational wines starting around $20.</p>
<p>To find sensational wines:  try a recommendation at a restaurant (an especially good deal if they&#8217;re by the glass), look at Wine Spectator recommendations (often posted at grocery stores), talk to friends, and ask the seller (here&#8217;s where the wine store comes in first).  </p>
<p>Costco is a great deal on higher end wines, but not so much for table wines where I frequently get a better deal at Safeway when I buy 6 for an extra 10% off.</p>
<p>Also, try different grape varieties.  And fruit wines can be interesting.  We found a pumpkin wine in Illinois made by throwing pumpkins in a wood chipper and fermenting.  Tasted similar to pumpkin pie.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim @ Change Jar Savings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim @ Change Jar Savings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What no Boones Farms??? That is more my style. ;&gt;

My wife is the wine drinker. We never buy a case as she always wants to try something new, something different.

At local (now closed) liquor store that specialized in wine, the owner&#039;s son was well versed in wino 101, 202 and advanced wino 305. He now runs a local winery. 

Anyways, he told me once that for Champange, the price is nonsense. Any bottle you like under $10 is just as good as anything over $10. 

He also told us that for any wine the year and region are more important than the brand or cost. If you find an Austarlian wine from 2006 is one you like then 9 times out of 10 any wine produced in the same environment (ie year&#039;s conditions, soil, rain, sun, bugs, etc) will taste similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What no Boones Farms??? That is more my style. ;&gt;</p>
<p>My wife is the wine drinker. We never buy a case as she always wants to try something new, something different.</p>
<p>At local (now closed) liquor store that specialized in wine, the owner&#8217;s son was well versed in wino 101, 202 and advanced wino 305. He now runs a local winery. </p>
<p>Anyways, he told me once that for Champange, the price is nonsense. Any bottle you like under $10 is just as good as anything over $10. </p>
<p>He also told us that for any wine the year and region are more important than the brand or cost. If you find an Austarlian wine from 2006 is one you like then 9 times out of 10 any wine produced in the same environment (ie year&#8217;s conditions, soil, rain, sun, bugs, etc) will taste similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate that wine can cost so much, especially inflated Californian wines.  i think it is silly, even on a splurge (except one caveat below).  I keep things below $8, because there are so many very drinkable wines out there for under $8.  i prefer reds like chianti, cabs, syrah, cab-syrah (nice mix).  I DON&#039;T drink Merlot in homage to a funny movie.

my favorite reds are from italy (give me any chianti), s. africa, australia, chile, and croatia.  a little private label (well, they didn&#039;t have labels actually, only a hang tag, and i guess it could be termed a garage wine) 60 year old croatian red being my favorite of all time.  

really, if you are in a wine producing country, other than the US, you shouldn&#039;t be wasting money, as my good italian friend keeps reminding me, on wine over $4/bottle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate that wine can cost so much, especially inflated Californian wines.  i think it is silly, even on a splurge (except one caveat below).  I keep things below $8, because there are so many very drinkable wines out there for under $8.  i prefer reds like chianti, cabs, syrah, cab-syrah (nice mix).  I DON&#8217;T drink Merlot in homage to a funny movie.</p>
<p>my favorite reds are from italy (give me any chianti), s. africa, australia, chile, and croatia.  a little private label (well, they didn&#8217;t have labels actually, only a hang tag, and i guess it could be termed a garage wine) 60 year old croatian red being my favorite of all time.  </p>
<p>really, if you are in a wine producing country, other than the US, you shouldn&#8217;t be wasting money, as my good italian friend keeps reminding me, on wine over $4/bottle.</p>
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		<title>By: FuglyLilTroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>FuglyLilTroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to border somewhere between a wino and a table wine drinker. Because i don&#039;t really have a &#039;refined&#039; palate, i can drink most any wine and find some good in it. That said, i fully recommend going &quot;wine trailing&quot; or &quot;vineyard hoping&quot;. Whenever i go out of town one of the first things i like to do is see if the area has a local vineyard and if they have open tasting (usually for a nominal fee). I have found some amazing wines this way, all with their own distinctive traits. The prices range from $8 a bottle up to about $18 on average. 

A few of my favorites:

Redass Rubarb from South Dakota $10 a bot

Plum Loco from Arizona $9 a bot

Edelweiss from a Vineyard near me in Iowa $12

A Red that i forgot the name of from Kansas (i ran out so i couldn&#039;t check the bottle) $11 a bot


My recomendation is, find a tour, take a tour, make a tour, while on tour try several.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to border somewhere between a wino and a table wine drinker. Because i don&#8217;t really have a &#8216;refined&#8217; palate, i can drink most any wine and find some good in it. That said, i fully recommend going &#8220;wine trailing&#8221; or &#8220;vineyard hoping&#8221;. Whenever i go out of town one of the first things i like to do is see if the area has a local vineyard and if they have open tasting (usually for a nominal fee). I have found some amazing wines this way, all with their own distinctive traits. The prices range from $8 a bottle up to about $18 on average. </p>
<p>A few of my favorites:</p>
<p>Redass Rubarb from South Dakota $10 a bot</p>
<p>Plum Loco from Arizona $9 a bot</p>
<p>Edelweiss from a Vineyard near me in Iowa $12</p>
<p>A Red that i forgot the name of from Kansas (i ran out so i couldn&#8217;t check the bottle) $11 a bot</p>
<p>My recomendation is, find a tour, take a tour, make a tour, while on tour try several.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy-Jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy-Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the ones interested, here some basic wine tasting tips which I hope will help.

Wine tasting tips
http://www.vinivino.com/blog/?p=85

Guy-Jacques
ww.vinivino.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the ones interested, here some basic wine tasting tips which I hope will help.</p>
<p>Wine tasting tips<br />
<a href="http://www.vinivino.com/blog/?p=85" rel="nofollow">http://www.vinivino.com/blog/?p=85</a></p>
<p>Guy-Jacques<br />
ww.vinivino.com</p>
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