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	<title>Comments on: Why Charitable Giving is Even More Important During an Economic Downturn</title>
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		<title>By: deepali</title>
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		<dc:creator>deepali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Contrarian - perhaps you can consider charitable giving as your thanks to god/fate/luck/the universe that none of your bad or ill-advised choices ever put you in a bad way as to require assistance, instead of making judgment calls about why someone else might be in a bad position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Contrarian &#8211; perhaps you can consider charitable giving as your thanks to god/fate/luck/the universe that none of your bad or ill-advised choices ever put you in a bad way as to require assistance, instead of making judgment calls about why someone else might be in a bad position.</p>
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		<title>By: perla</title>
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		<dc:creator>perla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this great post!  To research charities, there&#039;s also www.greatnonprofits.org where you can read reviews of nonprofits.  The reviews are written by people with first-hand experience with the nonprofit - their clients, volunteers, board members, donors.  

Perla Ni
CEO
GreatNonprofits.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great post!  To research charities, there&#8217;s also <a href="http://www.greatnonprofits.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.greatnonprofits.org</a> where you can read reviews of nonprofits.  The reviews are written by people with first-hand experience with the nonprofit &#8211; their clients, volunteers, board members, donors.  </p>
<p>Perla Ni<br />
CEO<br />
GreatNonprofits.org</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am in Australia and run a very small not for profit organisation called Knitting for Brisbane&#039;s Needy. (Brisbane Qld). All of us get no pay for what we do but enjoy knitting/crocheting/sewing new clothing, toys, blankets etc for the homeless and needy.

Many of my members have commented that they are being helped by being part of the group, as previously a lot of the older ones say they were just sitting at home waiting for &quot;my time to be up&quot;. But since they have started crafting items for the needy, they now have a purpose to life.

So by giving, they (and I) are reaping the rewards in a different way! Just to hand a homeless person a beanie, or blanket or toiletry bags and to see the look of surprise and their genuine thanks, is more than enough for me! Makes me want to make even more items!

This is a great thread! Would like to see more Aussies on here as well, telling what they are doing to help the needy.

As others have said, don&#039;t forget the needy once Christmas is over. They still have to live somehow after they use what they may have been lucky enough to receive from food banks etc for Christmas!

To all of you who are helping those less fortunate....may good karma come back to you fourfold!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am in Australia and run a very small not for profit organisation called Knitting for Brisbane&#8217;s Needy. (Brisbane Qld). All of us get no pay for what we do but enjoy knitting/crocheting/sewing new clothing, toys, blankets etc for the homeless and needy.</p>
<p>Many of my members have commented that they are being helped by being part of the group, as previously a lot of the older ones say they were just sitting at home waiting for &#8220;my time to be up&#8221;. But since they have started crafting items for the needy, they now have a purpose to life.</p>
<p>So by giving, they (and I) are reaping the rewards in a different way! Just to hand a homeless person a beanie, or blanket or toiletry bags and to see the look of surprise and their genuine thanks, is more than enough for me! Makes me want to make even more items!</p>
<p>This is a great thread! Would like to see more Aussies on here as well, telling what they are doing to help the needy.</p>
<p>As others have said, don&#8217;t forget the needy once Christmas is over. They still have to live somehow after they use what they may have been lucky enough to receive from food banks etc for Christmas!</p>
<p>To all of you who are helping those less fortunate&#8230;.may good karma come back to you fourfold!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you don&#039;t have a lot to give, or can&#039;t afford to, time can be just as important. I&#039;ve recently began working for a local library that was on the verge of getting shut down, due to lack of funds, and in just a few weeks I&#039;ve been able to do some work getting grants, new computers, and stuff like that. It&#039;s pretty rewarding, and helps a lot of people as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you don&#8217;t have a lot to give, or can&#8217;t afford to, time can be just as important. I&#8217;ve recently began working for a local library that was on the verge of getting shut down, due to lack of funds, and in just a few weeks I&#8217;ve been able to do some work getting grants, new computers, and stuff like that. It&#8217;s pretty rewarding, and helps a lot of people as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayde McKelvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayde McKelvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charitable giving is not only noble, it makes us feel good, and it can also offer a nice tax benefit.  Charitable organizations rely heavily on our generosity at the end of the year to help meet a large portion of their annual budgets.  It would be really wonderful if we could, as a society, give throughout the year.  I recognize in this tough economy it can be difficult to donate financially, but consider becoming a monthly sustainer to a charitable organization, at a smaller amount.  This allows you to give regularly in smaller increments, you still get the feel-good experience and tax benefit, and the organizations have more cash flow throughout the year to meet the needs of their client base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charitable giving is not only noble, it makes us feel good, and it can also offer a nice tax benefit.  Charitable organizations rely heavily on our generosity at the end of the year to help meet a large portion of their annual budgets.  It would be really wonderful if we could, as a society, give throughout the year.  I recognize in this tough economy it can be difficult to donate financially, but consider becoming a monthly sustainer to a charitable organization, at a smaller amount.  This allows you to give regularly in smaller increments, you still get the feel-good experience and tax benefit, and the organizations have more cash flow throughout the year to meet the needs of their client base.</p>
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		<title>By: Jee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! It&#039;s true, charitable work is important and it feels good when you share your blessing. I&#039;ve been doing it for quite some time but I lost my job and can&#039;t continue anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! It&#8217;s true, charitable work is important and it feels good when you share your blessing. I&#8217;ve been doing it for quite some time but I lost my job and can&#8217;t continue anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to FranticWoman, I&#039;d recommend you check out some small, local charities.  For example, I work at a nature center.  I assure you that our executive director (and pretty much all nature center executive directors) makes something around $50-60k a year.  I&#039;m an intern, and I make less than $800 a month (before taxes), and my center has to have an intern work force just to run.

Yes, some charities have big budgets and use a lot of donations for overhead.  But many other charities and non-profits don&#039;t.  It&#039;s worth looking into local charities to see if you can maximize your dollars within your own community.  As far as I know, any non-profit or charity will willingly give you a breakdown of their basic budget to demonstrate that donations are well-used.

And to Contrarian, perhaps there would not be so many government funded agencies to assist the poor if people were willing to open their wallets and assist others.  While this might not be your point of view, I&#039;ve found that many who are anti-taxes also are mostly or wholly-unwilling to help others in the guise of &quot;I worked for my money, so why can&#039;t they?&quot;  I just don&#039;t see taxes as any sort of valid excuse to not support a charity or non-profit that has a mission in which you believe.  Furthermore, if you&#039;d like to allocate your tax dollars &quot;more wisely,&quot; you can always figure out (perhaps with the help of an accountant) the maximum amount you can give to a non-profit in order to reduce your tax liability.  That way, you&#039;ve given less money to the government AND you&#039;re able to support those causes that are an ideological match for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to FranticWoman, I&#8217;d recommend you check out some small, local charities.  For example, I work at a nature center.  I assure you that our executive director (and pretty much all nature center executive directors) makes something around $50-60k a year.  I&#8217;m an intern, and I make less than $800 a month (before taxes), and my center has to have an intern work force just to run.</p>
<p>Yes, some charities have big budgets and use a lot of donations for overhead.  But many other charities and non-profits don&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s worth looking into local charities to see if you can maximize your dollars within your own community.  As far as I know, any non-profit or charity will willingly give you a breakdown of their basic budget to demonstrate that donations are well-used.</p>
<p>And to Contrarian, perhaps there would not be so many government funded agencies to assist the poor if people were willing to open their wallets and assist others.  While this might not be your point of view, I&#8217;ve found that many who are anti-taxes also are mostly or wholly-unwilling to help others in the guise of &#8220;I worked for my money, so why can&#8217;t they?&#8221;  I just don&#8217;t see taxes as any sort of valid excuse to not support a charity or non-profit that has a mission in which you believe.  Furthermore, if you&#8217;d like to allocate your tax dollars &#8220;more wisely,&#8221; you can always figure out (perhaps with the help of an accountant) the maximum amount you can give to a non-profit in order to reduce your tax liability.  That way, you&#8217;ve given less money to the government AND you&#8217;re able to support those causes that are an ideological match for you.</p>
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		<title>By: K Belcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Belcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve been thinking of doing for a long time, and am finally doing, is when I unclutter, listing the most saleable items somewhere online. The holiday season is a good motivator to unclutter, and then I donate the proceeds of the sale. I try to list only a few items at a time, so it stays an opportunity instead of a burden. The rest of the things I just donate. This is especially useful with used books, which (depending on their type -- I have a lot of academic books which are very valuable to a very small readership) might not find their way to appropriate readers via donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve been thinking of doing for a long time, and am finally doing, is when I unclutter, listing the most saleable items somewhere online. The holiday season is a good motivator to unclutter, and then I donate the proceeds of the sale. I try to list only a few items at a time, so it stays an opportunity instead of a burden. The rest of the things I just donate. This is especially useful with used books, which (depending on their type &#8212; I have a lot of academic books which are very valuable to a very small readership) might not find their way to appropriate readers via donations.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also am a fan of Advent Conspiracy.

Some others I like:

Buy a Goat, Duck, Chicken to help teach poor people in other countries how to live off these animals
http://donate.worldvision.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?minisite=10020&amp;lpos=top_drp_WaysToGive_GiftCatalog&amp;section=10024&amp;go=gift&amp;&amp;section=10024

Pack a Shoebox for needy children overseas
http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/OCC/Pack_A_Shoe_Box/

Give small business owners in impovershed countries the loans they need to startup
http://www.kiva.org/

And a list of a few others at http://www.fixmas.org/?request=join

They can be found collectively at http://philstrahm.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas%20Giving</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also am a fan of Advent Conspiracy.</p>
<p>Some others I like:</p>
<p>Buy a Goat, Duck, Chicken to help teach poor people in other countries how to live off these animals<br />
<a href="http://donate.worldvision.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?minisite=10020&amp;lpos=top_drp_WaysToGive_GiftCatalog&amp;section=10024&amp;go=gift&amp;&amp;section=10024" rel="nofollow">http://donate.worldvision.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?minisite=10020&amp;lpos=top_drp_WaysToGive_GiftCatalog&amp;section=10024&amp;go=gift&amp;&amp;section=10024</a></p>
<p>Pack a Shoebox for needy children overseas<br />
<a href="http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/OCC/Pack_A_Shoe_Box/" rel="nofollow">http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/OCC/Pack_A_Shoe_Box/</a></p>
<p>Give small business owners in impovershed countries the loans they need to startup<br />
<a href="http://www.kiva.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kiva.org/</a></p>
<p>And a list of a few others at <a href="http://www.fixmas.org/?request=join" rel="nofollow">http://www.fixmas.org/?request=join</a></p>
<p>They can be found collectively at <a href="http://philstrahm.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas%20Giving" rel="nofollow">http://philstrahm.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas%20Giving</a></p>
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		<title>By: FranticWoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranticWoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is a good reminder. I&#039;ve been struggling with decisions of where to put my charitable dollars, and how to give more.

I want to give to my usual no-kill animal shelter but am feeling guilty about humans that are suffering.  I&#039;m all for weekly donations to a food bank BUT my local one does NOT accept food donations, only cash (from individuals. If you are in a wholesale grocery business, then they take food). I also tried to donate very nice woman&#039;s suits but after ten attempts I still have yet to receive an email or phone response regarding how I get this item to them, since no info is on their website re: how to donate. (Grr)

As far as the shoestring budget of charities...it isn&#039;t true of all of them but a great deal of them pay their leader $200k to $500k (yes, half a million) a year salary...sorry, they don&#039;t need my $100 then.

At work we sponser kids for xmas. The charity and my employer expect us to purchase everything on that list. Guess what? Most of the kids 10 and up listed a $200 iphone. Sorry...I&#039;m all for new clothes, toys, books, crafty items..but seriously? $200 phone? My own kids would not get something that expensive!

Anyway, here are some of my (negative) thoughts. At times, I wish there was more flexibility and meeting my charitable wants when giving rather than bending to demands around me.

I will probably just play it safe and do Catholic Charities and social justice at my mother&#039;s church (while they help individual families who are trying but meeting too much bad luck).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is a good reminder. I&#8217;ve been struggling with decisions of where to put my charitable dollars, and how to give more.</p>
<p>I want to give to my usual no-kill animal shelter but am feeling guilty about humans that are suffering.  I&#8217;m all for weekly donations to a food bank BUT my local one does NOT accept food donations, only cash (from individuals. If you are in a wholesale grocery business, then they take food). I also tried to donate very nice woman&#8217;s suits but after ten attempts I still have yet to receive an email or phone response regarding how I get this item to them, since no info is on their website re: how to donate. (Grr)</p>
<p>As far as the shoestring budget of charities&#8230;it isn&#8217;t true of all of them but a great deal of them pay their leader $200k to $500k (yes, half a million) a year salary&#8230;sorry, they don&#8217;t need my $100 then.</p>
<p>At work we sponser kids for xmas. The charity and my employer expect us to purchase everything on that list. Guess what? Most of the kids 10 and up listed a $200 iphone. Sorry&#8230;I&#8217;m all for new clothes, toys, books, crafty items..but seriously? $200 phone? My own kids would not get something that expensive!</p>
<p>Anyway, here are some of my (negative) thoughts. At times, I wish there was more flexibility and meeting my charitable wants when giving rather than bending to demands around me.</p>
<p>I will probably just play it safe and do Catholic Charities and social justice at my mother&#8217;s church (while they help individual families who are trying but meeting too much bad luck).</p>
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		<title>By: WAHM</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAHM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CONTRARIAN-I have to respectfully disagree with your statement. Actually, this is the very reason why I give so highly to non-profits (~10% of my income)  Because then I can direct where I want my contribution to go.  When I make that contribution, and in those amounts, I make sure I am writing them off for my taxes.  In this way the government (which I am not happy with, either) cannot take as much money from me in taxes.  As a multi-millioniare acquaintance of mine once put it, &quot;the government allows me to direct where I want up to half of my income to go&quot;  That way I am paying much less to red-tape and governmental programs than I would be otherwise.  

The old way I did my taxes with no shelters meant I was being taxed up to 28%, with no control over where that money was going or how it was being spent.  Now that I concienciously work throughout the year on where my contributions and investiments go (via donations, my mortgage, multiple business expenses, retirement, etc.), I now pay an effective rate of tax of less than 5% on my income (by using the tax rules to reduce my taxable income).  And in this way I control where the majority of my money goes, and how it is used.  A very empowering lesson for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CONTRARIAN-I have to respectfully disagree with your statement. Actually, this is the very reason why I give so highly to non-profits (~10% of my income)  Because then I can direct where I want my contribution to go.  When I make that contribution, and in those amounts, I make sure I am writing them off for my taxes.  In this way the government (which I am not happy with, either) cannot take as much money from me in taxes.  As a multi-millioniare acquaintance of mine once put it, &#8220;the government allows me to direct where I want up to half of my income to go&#8221;  That way I am paying much less to red-tape and governmental programs than I would be otherwise.  </p>
<p>The old way I did my taxes with no shelters meant I was being taxed up to 28%, with no control over where that money was going or how it was being spent.  Now that I concienciously work throughout the year on where my contributions and investiments go (via donations, my mortgage, multiple business expenses, retirement, etc.), I now pay an effective rate of tax of less than 5% on my income (by using the tax rules to reduce my taxable income).  And in this way I control where the majority of my money goes, and how it is used.  A very empowering lesson for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrarian, I agree with you. Were it not for the incredible amount of taxation, I would give much more money to the causes I support. But even with forced taxation, I won&#039;t let myself starve-and similarly, I wouldn&#039;t want to let the causes that matter most to me die. And the government has yet to do anything to help them.

One nice thing about volunteering time is that you can use your time to its full effect without ever running through the tax system. This is why I volunteer to teach, even though I disagree with a public school system funded by property tax.

I would never consider it an *obligation* to give. Giving is a choice, and having the freedom to choose what you donate to is what makes a donation meaningful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrarian, I agree with you. Were it not for the incredible amount of taxation, I would give much more money to the causes I support. But even with forced taxation, I won&#8217;t let myself starve-and similarly, I wouldn&#8217;t want to let the causes that matter most to me die. And the government has yet to do anything to help them.</p>
<p>One nice thing about volunteering time is that you can use your time to its full effect without ever running through the tax system. This is why I volunteer to teach, even though I disagree with a public school system funded by property tax.</p>
<p>I would never consider it an *obligation* to give. Giving is a choice, and having the freedom to choose what you donate to is what makes a donation meaningful.</p>
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		<title>By: Contrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Contrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, I guess I get to be the first (only?) contrarian here. The government takes plenty of money from me to give to the less fortunate. Some of these less fortunate have genuine need due to unforeseen circumstances, but many are in a bad way due to poor planning or bad decisions, and the system gets abused (as an anecdotal example, take the people in mortgages that never could have afforded them even at the best of times).

When the government takes my money, I can&#039;t choose where it goes; I don&#039;t get to withdraw it if an agency is misusing it (e.g. too-high bureaucratic overhead, enabling drug abusers, insufficient means-testing for recipients of aid, or supporting causes which which I disagree, e.g. abortion/euthenasia).

If government wasn&#039;t robbing me, in a purely private system I would have that choice, and I could choose to give my money to private charities that efficiently helped people and aligned with my moral values, and I would. Until then, my giving is done primarily though tax withholding under threat of governmental armed force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, I guess I get to be the first (only?) contrarian here. The government takes plenty of money from me to give to the less fortunate. Some of these less fortunate have genuine need due to unforeseen circumstances, but many are in a bad way due to poor planning or bad decisions, and the system gets abused (as an anecdotal example, take the people in mortgages that never could have afforded them even at the best of times).</p>
<p>When the government takes my money, I can&#8217;t choose where it goes; I don&#8217;t get to withdraw it if an agency is misusing it (e.g. too-high bureaucratic overhead, enabling drug abusers, insufficient means-testing for recipients of aid, or supporting causes which which I disagree, e.g. abortion/euthenasia).</p>
<p>If government wasn&#8217;t robbing me, in a purely private system I would have that choice, and I could choose to give my money to private charities that efficiently helped people and aligned with my moral values, and I would. Until then, my giving is done primarily though tax withholding under threat of governmental armed force.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local food banks here in the Detroit area are definitely hurting...donations are down, demand is way up. I&#039;ve made it a point in recent years to do things like purchase my holiday cards from a local food bank, Forgotten Harvest http://www.forgottenharvest.org/ (in addition to giving them several donations throughout the year).
The Passports with Purpose effort Debbie mentioned was a great opportunity for me to become involved in a larger effort, even as a small and new blog.
Oh, and Charity Navigator at http://www.charitynavigator.org/ is a good place to check out charities before donating to make sure your dollars are spent as you intend them spent
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local food banks here in the Detroit area are definitely hurting&#8230;donations are down, demand is way up. I&#8217;ve made it a point in recent years to do things like purchase my holiday cards from a local food bank, Forgotten Harvest <a href="http://www.forgottenharvest.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forgottenharvest.org/</a> (in addition to giving them several donations throughout the year).<br />
The Passports with Purpose effort Debbie mentioned was a great opportunity for me to become involved in a larger effort, even as a small and new blog.<br />
Oh, and Charity Navigator at <a href="http://www.charitynavigator.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.charitynavigator.org/</a> is a good place to check out charities before donating to make sure your dollars are spent as you intend them spent<br />
 <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RenaissanceTrophyWife</title>
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		<dc:creator>RenaissanceTrophyWife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I&#039;ve been giving family members donations in their name to Heifer International for a few years now, and I definitely don&#039;t plan to stop this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I&#8217;ve been giving family members donations in their name to Heifer International for a few years now, and I definitely don&#8217;t plan to stop this year.</p>
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		<title>By: mwarden</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wonderful post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonderful post</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent. I&#039;m glad to see this getting more play. I usually donate to the Denver Rescue Mission for Thanksgiving meals, but this year I donated to the Food Bank of the Rockies at Thanksgiving, and I just sent another check.

It&#039;s true...I know that I&#039;m doing okay, and that there are lots of people that are worse off.

How do I frame it in my mind? Well, with gas prices down so much, I figure that I would have spent that $25 I just sent off on gas this week anyway, so 3 months ago I wouldn&#039;t have had it, but now I do, so I&#039;m doing what I can to help.

Not only that, but I *have* mentioned it on my blogs and on Twitter &amp; Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. I&#8217;m glad to see this getting more play. I usually donate to the Denver Rescue Mission for Thanksgiving meals, but this year I donated to the Food Bank of the Rockies at Thanksgiving, and I just sent another check.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true&#8230;I know that I&#8217;m doing okay, and that there are lots of people that are worse off.</p>
<p>How do I frame it in my mind? Well, with gas prices down so much, I figure that I would have spent that $25 I just sent off on gas this week anyway, so 3 months ago I wouldn&#8217;t have had it, but now I do, so I&#8217;m doing what I can to help.</p>
<p>Not only that, but I *have* mentioned it on my blogs and on Twitter &amp; Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: quinsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>quinsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this great article.

I would like to note in response to Carrottop, I applaud your efforts in the office. So many little junk-type gifts get given for events like these. Do we really need another set of candles or body lotions.

My mom talked her office into switching from the &#039;Secret Santa&#039; to the office sponsoring a local family for Christmas. The local family submits a wish list and then the office loves buying all these nice things for the family. It seems to be so much more satisfying to know that they are buying gifts that will be much appreciated for people truly in need.

We are doing the same thing for our family gifts, though we don&#039;t have any small kids which is what makes this realistic for us. No requirement to get gifts for each other (though I am bringing some special gifts that caught my eye for a few), but we are all having fun buying toys for kids locally who otherwise would not be getting gifts. We even are buying gifts &#039;in honor of&#039; other family members that remind us of them. Last year I got a Dora the Explorer set and a couple of stuffed dogs in honor of my aunt who looks like Dora and works at a kennel. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this great article.</p>
<p>I would like to note in response to Carrottop, I applaud your efforts in the office. So many little junk-type gifts get given for events like these. Do we really need another set of candles or body lotions.</p>
<p>My mom talked her office into switching from the &#8216;Secret Santa&#8217; to the office sponsoring a local family for Christmas. The local family submits a wish list and then the office loves buying all these nice things for the family. It seems to be so much more satisfying to know that they are buying gifts that will be much appreciated for people truly in need.</p>
<p>We are doing the same thing for our family gifts, though we don&#8217;t have any small kids which is what makes this realistic for us. No requirement to get gifts for each other (though I am bringing some special gifts that caught my eye for a few), but we are all having fun buying toys for kids locally who otherwise would not be getting gifts. We even are buying gifts &#8216;in honor of&#8217; other family members that remind us of them. Last year I got a Dora the Explorer set and a couple of stuffed dogs in honor of my aunt who looks like Dora and works at a kennel. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kristen a.k.a. The Frugal Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen a.k.a. The Frugal Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, I love that video too.  I posted it on my own blog, in fact.

Brooklyn Chick, that&#039;s a great way of thinking of it(the &quot;$10 is two magazines&quot; sortof thing).  It&#039;s pretty easy to find SOMETHING we can give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, I love that video too.  I posted it on my own blog, in fact.</p>
<p>Brooklyn Chick, that&#8217;s a great way of thinking of it(the &#8220;$10 is two magazines&#8221; sortof thing).  It&#8217;s pretty easy to find SOMETHING we can give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. GoTo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. GoTo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hopeful that our fellow citizens will help each other as a signal to our government that we can do it better than our government can, if we are allowed to retain enough of our own resources to make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hopeful that our fellow citizens will help each other as a signal to our government that we can do it better than our government can, if we are allowed to retain enough of our own resources to make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel@youngandfrugal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel@youngandfrugal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a fantastic approach, and it is something I&#039;ve thought about for a while.  I think there is another reason to give more to charities this year though...

Without trying to take this political (which I try to avoid), taxes on the rich are going to go up, and the Rich give substantially to the charities that do tons of good.  To quote a very rich relative &quot;Well I figure my take home will be about the same, the only difference is that instead of me giving tons of money away, it&#039;s going to be taken from me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a fantastic approach, and it is something I&#8217;ve thought about for a while.  I think there is another reason to give more to charities this year though&#8230;</p>
<p>Without trying to take this political (which I try to avoid), taxes on the rich are going to go up, and the Rich give substantially to the charities that do tons of good.  To quote a very rich relative &#8220;Well I figure my take home will be about the same, the only difference is that instead of me giving tons of money away, it&#8217;s going to be taken from me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Carrottop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrottop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is better to give than to recieve. This year, I did not participate in the office gift exchange. When asked why I was not participating I told them there was no way I could imagine giving anyone a $20.00 gift when that money could go to the food bank here in the D.C. area.  To my surprise everyone decided to give a donation to the food bank. We are almost up to $500.00. 
  It is my prayer that no one goes hungry this time of the year. Yes, the economy is taking an effect on everyone but giving a few dollars to your local food bank can make a big difference. One final note: If you think you have it bad go to the soup kitchens and see the faces of those families who are there for the first time. Trust me, you will be thankful for any and everything you have. 
 Count the things you have and not the things you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is better to give than to recieve. This year, I did not participate in the office gift exchange. When asked why I was not participating I told them there was no way I could imagine giving anyone a $20.00 gift when that money could go to the food bank here in the D.C. area.  To my surprise everyone decided to give a donation to the food bank. We are almost up to $500.00.<br />
  It is my prayer that no one goes hungry this time of the year. Yes, the economy is taking an effect on everyone but giving a few dollars to your local food bank can make a big difference. One final note: If you think you have it bad go to the soup kitchens and see the faces of those families who are there for the first time. Trust me, you will be thankful for any and everything you have.<br />
 Count the things you have and not the things you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Aman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post. I hope that readers of this article realize that giving should not only be done during the holiday season, but year round. 

Being a mentor to a younger person, volunteering at a soup kitchen/hospital/skill center helping other gain valuable traits all should be done...A few hours a week can change a person and the community for the better. 

Sometimes we take for granted the education/income we have and forget about the struggles it took to get here. Helping others keeps you grounded with reality and provides hope for others. Money is not always viable for many to donate in hard times, but we can all spare some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post. I hope that readers of this article realize that giving should not only be done during the holiday season, but year round. </p>
<p>Being a mentor to a younger person, volunteering at a soup kitchen/hospital/skill center helping other gain valuable traits all should be done&#8230;A few hours a week can change a person and the community for the better. </p>
<p>Sometimes we take for granted the education/income we have and forget about the struggles it took to get here. Helping others keeps you grounded with reality and provides hope for others. Money is not always viable for many to donate in hard times, but we can all spare some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Debbie, for a great post!  During the holiday season it&#039;s easier to be generous because we&#039;re surrounded by opportunities.  Salvation Army buckets are at every store, schools and places of worship are doing food drives and clothing drives, and local agencies, like Toys for Tots, are asking for donations.  After December is past, though, it&#039;s good to remember that when times are tough for us, they are tougher for others.  Thanks for great suggestions for ways people of all ages can give throughout the year and reminding us parents that we need to teach our kids to be generous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Debbie, for a great post!  During the holiday season it&#8217;s easier to be generous because we&#8217;re surrounded by opportunities.  Salvation Army buckets are at every store, schools and places of worship are doing food drives and clothing drives, and local agencies, like Toys for Tots, are asking for donations.  After December is past, though, it&#8217;s good to remember that when times are tough for us, they are tougher for others.  Thanks for great suggestions for ways people of all ages can give throughout the year and reminding us parents that we need to teach our kids to be generous.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy @ Retire at 40</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy @ Retire at 40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it&#039;s nice to be able to be in a position to give to others and therefore I feel responsible as the right thing to do. Yes, it makes me feel better but I try and get over that temporary feeling and instead concentrate on the long term benefits that the receiver actually gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it&#8217;s nice to be able to be in a position to give to others and therefore I feel responsible as the right thing to do. Yes, it makes me feel better but I try and get over that temporary feeling and instead concentrate on the long term benefits that the receiver actually gets.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Staib - Work Happy Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Staib - Work Happy Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to give to two charities this Christmas. One to replant trees to offset my holiday card and one to NPR (listen every day).

I value both of these entities immensely. 

I will eventually start giving my time, but for now I&#039;m all about building my blog with my free time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to give to two charities this Christmas. One to replant trees to offset my holiday card and one to NPR (listen every day).</p>
<p>I value both of these entities immensely. </p>
<p>I will eventually start giving my time, but for now I&#8217;m all about building my blog with my free time.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even when I was flat broke, and unemployed (just getting by with odd jobs and temp work), I was still able to give away clothes I could no longer wear due to weight loss and food, I could not longer eat due to allergies and so on.  There was always something to give.  Volunteering is free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even when I was flat broke, and unemployed (just getting by with odd jobs and temp work), I was still able to give away clothes I could no longer wear due to weight loss and food, I could not longer eat due to allergies and so on.  There was always something to give.  Volunteering is free.</p>
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		<title>By: Donny Gamble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donny Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you give back to others in a cheerful way, you will reap tremendous rewards and you will feel a lot better about yourself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you give back to others in a cheerful way, you will reap tremendous rewards and you will feel a lot better about yourself</p>
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		<title>By: S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be sure to check the guidelines for the business clothing donations organization in your area. The major organization in my area doesn&#039;t accept things more than a fashion season or two old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be sure to check the guidelines for the business clothing donations organization in your area. The major organization in my area doesn&#8217;t accept things more than a fashion season or two old.</p>
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		<title>By: brooklynchick</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklynchick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO important - thanks for the great post!

Scordo, I think when times are tough what can dominate our hearts is *fear.*  Goodness knows the media and some of our friends and family can stoke this.  All I do is *try* to trust in &quot;instant karma;&quot; that giving now will in some way help my well-being later on in this life.  I also, as Debbie said, remember that no matter how high my cc bills are, I have a roof over my head, a job and food in the fridge.

Like others, I donate clothes, books, and other things in addition to money.

As far as $ gifts go, for the most part I sign up for automatic monthly giving.  This makes it easier when I am worried abut money because when I see a $10 or $20 monthly debit to Heifer, Doctors without Borders and so on, I tell myself - $10 is two magazines I buy when I&#039;m depressed, or two fancy coffees if I treat a co-worker.  But over a year, these gifts add up.  And increasing the monthly amount a little ($5 or $10) doesn&#039;t hurt, but again really adds up over time.

Lastly, I have cut back on some other &quot;nice to haves&quot; to make more room - Netflix, etc.  

Scodo, here&#039;s an appeal to logic: &quot;Spending&quot; is good for the economy in a recession as I understand it - keeping money moving.  And charitable giving is the best kind of spending.  No clutter, and it employs folks, buys food and clothes, etc.  So spending in this way may help us out of this mess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO important &#8211; thanks for the great post!</p>
<p>Scordo, I think when times are tough what can dominate our hearts is *fear.*  Goodness knows the media and some of our friends and family can stoke this.  All I do is *try* to trust in &#8220;instant karma;&#8221; that giving now will in some way help my well-being later on in this life.  I also, as Debbie said, remember that no matter how high my cc bills are, I have a roof over my head, a job and food in the fridge.</p>
<p>Like others, I donate clothes, books, and other things in addition to money.</p>
<p>As far as $ gifts go, for the most part I sign up for automatic monthly giving.  This makes it easier when I am worried abut money because when I see a $10 or $20 monthly debit to Heifer, Doctors without Borders and so on, I tell myself &#8211; $10 is two magazines I buy when I&#8217;m depressed, or two fancy coffees if I treat a co-worker.  But over a year, these gifts add up.  And increasing the monthly amount a little ($5 or $10) doesn&#8217;t hurt, but again really adds up over time.</p>
<p>Lastly, I have cut back on some other &#8220;nice to haves&#8221; to make more room &#8211; Netflix, etc.  </p>
<p>Scodo, here&#8217;s an appeal to logic: &#8220;Spending&#8221; is good for the economy in a recession as I understand it &#8211; keeping money moving.  And charitable giving is the best kind of spending.  No clutter, and it employs folks, buys food and clothes, etc.  So spending in this way may help us out of this mess!</p>
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