In Praise of the Adult Allowance Print
Monday, 8th December 2008 (by J.D.)This article is about Budgeting, Money Hacks, Real-Life
In the past, many Get Rich Slowly readers have sung the praises of the “adult allowance”. Though I’ve read enthusiastic comments supporting this idea, I’ve never paid it much heed. To be honest, it’s always sounded lame, and I didn’t think it would be useful to me. I was wrong.
Accidental allowance
Before our short vacation in early October, I pulled $200 out of the ATM. This is unusual for me. I don’t like to carry a lot of cash. I find it easier to track my spending when I use credit or debit cards.
I didn’t spend very much on our trip. I bought a few old books, but mostly we did low- or no-cost sightseeing. When we returned home, I still had about $160 in my wallet.
Normally, I would have put that money back into the bank. I kept it in my wallet instead. For the rest of the month, I used it whenever I bought something that wasn’t a Need. This wasn’t anything I had planned to do, and it wasn’t even conscious at first. It just happened. Eventually I realized that I had been forcing myself to purchase Wants with the leftover cash.
By the end of October, I’d spent nearly all of that $200. I’d only used my plastic for play once or twice. “Interesting,” I thought. “What if I were to do this intentionally? What if I pulled out $200 for the month of November?” So I did.
Cashing it in
At the beginning of November, I withdrew another $200. All month, I used that money whenever I purchased something that wasn’t a Need. The new Popeye book? Paid with cash. Quantum of Solace, popcorn, and red vines? Paid with cash (and without complaint). A trip to my favorite cheap taco place for lunch? Cash again.
As the weeks went by, I began to feel liberated. By allocating this money to use however I pleased, I was freed from feeling guilty about every little thing I bought.
Still, I wasn’t spending the money willy-nilly; in fact, I found myself considering every potential purchase carefully. Because I knew I wanted the $200 to last the entire month, I was careful with it early on. I passed up easy treats. By pinching pennies early, I was able to afford a splurge I had thought to deny myself.
When tickets for The Decemberists sold out, I gave up hope of seeing their post-Thanksgiving show here in Portland. But entering the final week of the month, I still had $100 in my wallet. Because of this, I purchased a $60 ticket off of Craigslist, something I normally wouldn’t have even considered. I was happy to do it.
Now I’m ready to pull out another $200, and I’ve come to a realization: That adult allowance idea I used to think was lame? I actually like it!
Part of a balanced budget
Though the initial $200 withdrawal was arbitrary, it works well for my income and my circumstances. I can afford to give myself $50 a week without compromising my other financial goals. It works well as part of my balanced money formula. I intend to use this number going forward, at least for a couple of months.
Though I’m nearly sold on the adult allowance, I still have a major concern. As you know, I’m a proponent of tracking every penny you spend. This is easy with debit and credit cards, but I’m notoriously poor at accounting for my cash spending. I’m awful at it. I’d love to hear what others have done. If you give yourself a cash allowance — even if you don’t call it that — how do you handle the record-keeping? For now, I’m just logging it in Quicken as $200 in “Misc Expenses” when I make the monthly withdrawal.
I’m also interested to hear other tips and tricks from folks who have a cash budget for fun. How much do you give yourself? What do you spend it on? (Though I’m spending mine on Wants, it doesn’t cover all wants. When Kris and I go out to dinner, I stick to my traditional system.) By using cash for my discretionary spending, I’ve found I’m less likely to make impulse purchases. Have you found that to be true as well?
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December 8th, 2008 at 5:18 am
This is similar to what I do. Unfortunetely my monthly allowance is around $350 which is probably high but I’m weak when it comes to spending on food. I automatically deduct this amount from my budget each month and the extra cash left over, I tuck away somewhere. When this accumulates, I use it towards bigger “wants” purchases like that laptop I have been craving or a nice tv. It actually works very well because you have given yourself a goal and a boundary inside which you have no guilt spending.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:19 am
We use and allowance for all discretionary spending. We each get $500 for half the month which covers a discretionary spending which includes groceries, gas, dry cleaning, eating out, entertainment, small Home Depot expenses (we have real estate investments so larger HD expenses are funded by another source), personal care, gifts (except not holiday gifts) and clothes. While many people would object to calling groceries and gas disrectionary we still pay for those expenses out of our allowances.
We use debit cards which helps with the tracking issue you mentioned.
Basically on the first and fifteenth, I pay all the recurring and fixed bills, we put money aside for savings, our 2008 money goals, etc. and then we each get our allowance. So if I want to spend more on clothing in one month I’ll bring my lunch every day instead of eating out. The allowance works for us because we can spend the money however we like on whatever we want, but once its gone we can’t spend more. So if we run out of money we might be eating soup or PBJs for a week. Since we’ve been working this plan for a while we are pretty good about planning our spending so that we don’t run out of money.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:24 am
We do it but use separate bank accounts with debit cards. One joint account plus a personal account for each of us. Each paycheck a small portion goes into the personal account with everything else into the joint. The personal account money is basically our allowance. It covers cash, dining out, entertainment, etc. You can set up quicken or mint to ignore those accounts or track them.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:26 am
My wife and I do the same thing. Each get $250 a month as ‘fun money’. We each set up Schwab accounts, which gain a small amount of interest, and have debit cards with those accounts. If interested, this would be a good way for you to track each penny, if you still desire to do so. We started this about four months ago and I have yet to spend a penny of the money, actually gained a bit of interest. I haven’t decided if I want to have a lot of small splurges or save for a bigger one, but I like the option of having this money that allows for this flexibility.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:30 am
For record-keeping, just keep your receipts! Put them in your pocket, and at the end of each day, you can either put it into your spreadsheet, or put them in a little receipt box and tally it up at the end of the month. Just toss them when you are done.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:31 am
I think it’s very important that the “allowance money” not need be recorded penny-for-penny. It’s fun money, totally unaccountable (except for the fact that you mark $50 / week as “personal alloance” on your budget). For my wife and I it’s important to have this discressionary money that we don’t have to save receipts, etc.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:34 am
My husband likes to have a cash allowance. He takes $40 per week to cover whatever small expenses (lunch, books etc). I use to think think this allowance was remedial, but he likes it. It makes cash flow planning easy and sets a good example for the kids.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:36 am
Wow! That’s a lot of money, y’all! My husband and I get $20 a month each. If we took $200, we couldn’t save anything. But to each his own. I know no two financial situations are alike.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:40 am
My husband and I each get a set amount of “blow money” every two weeks on my payday. He gets $40 every two weeks and I get $20. We mostly use it for lunches out at work. His job requires him to eat out more which explains the discrepancy. I log the withdrawal in Quicken and use the categories I created for our blow money. Beyond that, my record keeping doesn’t particularly care where it went.
I also use cash for groceries and almost anything bought at a brick and mortar store with a cash register.
I log it to the appropriate category when I do the withdrawal and put it a labeled envelope. My record keeping does not care nor does it need to know exactly where I spend the grocery money. The system only works, of course, because I hold myself accountable to only using money out of the appropriate envelope. Seeing that physical cash limit helps control all of my spending. I used to be much more meticulous in my record keeping, but I’ve found this system to be just as good and very liberating. The time I spend on household finance record keeping has plummeted and I’m still confident it is accurate!
December 8th, 2008 at 5:41 am
I used buxfer.com to track my spending. It is nice for cash spending, because you can send a text from your phone to an email address they provide, and the amount and description will show up in your buxfer transactions.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:44 am
Hey JD,
Great post! I’ve done something similar and have found it very useful and liberating as well.
Currently, I don’t use cash for my “allowance.” I use the envelope method of budgeting and track it virtually (not with cash) using software I wrote (www.neobudget.com). This lets me have the benefit of using my debit card, while still tracking my budget with envelopes.
I have an envelope for my money and my wife’s money. We can each use this money at our discretion without fear of hurting our budget. It’s very liberating, and I second your endorsement.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:48 am
I try to track every dollar I spend with the exception of what I call blow money. I give myself $300 a month. I only get $100 at a time. I spend this money on fun stuff or whatever I choose to do with it. I dont account for what I spend it on. I have found that I have become somewhat hesitant with this money.This past month I only spent $167. The balance goes into my general savings account at the end of the month which draws 3.75% APR in an online account.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:54 am
What I did to start tracking cash was to treat it like another account. I added a ‘Cash’ account to my budgeting software and any time I balanced my checking or savings accounts I balanced the cash account as well. Also, whenever I made a withdrawal I would mark it as an account transfer along with an expense for any fees that might be included.
December 8th, 2008 at 5:55 am
If you’re only using the money for wants and “fun”, JD, then you might want to simply set up an expense account in Quicken titled “Fun Spending” or something along those lines. You expressly state that it is a small amount and you already know what the money is being used for. I really don’t think that you need to drive yourself completely crazy with trying to track where every penny ultimately ends up.
Personally, I can’t add any helpful tips, since I purposely try to use credit for everything. Like you said, it helps keep track of everything not to mention the bonuses associated with certain cards (ie:extended protection, points, automatic transaction downloads into pf software, consolidating checking account outflows, built-in reports, etc.)
One thing that I did think of while reading your post, was the problem with poor money management. If someone cannot budget money, or has no self-control, what is to stop them from just going back to the ATM when the money runs out before the end of the month, especially if they never really had any kind of structure like that in their life before? I am always trying to come up with ways to help clients who have that problem change their mind set but it is very difficult for people to change their habits after years of consistent mismanagement.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:05 am
We track ours in Quicken as “Mad Money”. We have a separate ING account set up titled “Terri’s Mad Money” and every paycheck, the specified amount gets transferred into that account. When I buy something, I tell my husband (who manages our Quicken set up) to take it out of my Mad Money and he transfers that amount back to our regular account to apply towards to CC that month.
A little more complicated than perhaps necessary, but it works well for us.
We set it up like that because, for me, once we went to a track-everything Quicken system, I felt like I couldn’t spend ANY money because everything had to be accounted for and reported to my husband (the Quicken gatekeeper), and apparently my husband didn’t have that issue. Heh. So this was a way for me to have money that I could spend without guilt or weird feelings.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:07 am
$360.00 each month for me. That includes kids’ school lunches, dog grooming and pizza on the weekends. I always make sure I have a couple of dollars in my wallet. Mostly, I take out one dollar bills when I make this withdrawl from the bank each month. I always have dollars left over at the end of the month. I started doing this several years ago. Also, I never spend change. If I have to break a dollar, so be it. I always stick the change in a bag and every couple of weeks I have a nice, sizable deposit to make to my ing direct account.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:09 am
I actually use the cash system for all my spending beyond rent and utilities. Twice a month, I get $400 which I use for grocery, clothes, beer/wine, eating out, vet bills, gas (although this is rather annoying, because you have to prepay, then go get your change after pumping), gifts, and anything else that isnt a utility or rent related payment. I actually started setting aside money out of this $400 for Christmas gifts as well.
It has been working very well for me. The first few cycles were rough (I was moving cross country AND getting a new puppy AND a maid of honor in my best friends wedding that fist go around). Luckily some of those costs were covered by employer/previous savings/ect, but it has gotten easier. I get paid 2 times a month, so occasionally there are 3 weekends in a pay period, and I have to be careful about spending in the first 2 weeks.
I actually dont track any of this money (ok I know). But I figured that I would first try to get the money to work out, then figure out the logistics later. Im not quite there yet, as Ive only been doing this for about 3 months. Maybe thats a good new years goal..
December 8th, 2008 at 6:13 am
I agree with Eric. No need to track the items bought with the weekly cash. For myself, I take out $40 weekly (in Quicken, this category is Cash). My coworker does the same thing, and I’ve been following his advice: always take out the same amount weekly (or monthly). If you have money left over, put it in an envelope. The accumulated surplus can be used for weeks when you need more money. Or, if you build up to $50, say, you can drop it into savings. It’s a very simple system, and as JD says, there is no guilt about spending the allowance on lunches out, magazines, or yarn.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:15 am
When my (now) husband and I first moved in together we merged finances. At the time I was a graduate student and he was well employed and making three times as much as my stipend. At that time I never felt like I could spend any money as I was not contributing as much (note: this was entirely my feelings and never in any way came from him either directly or indirectly). This frustrated him because he really felt that the size of our incomes did not indicate our contributions to the household. That was when we started an ‘allowance’. He gets paid biweekly and each payday we each get $100 cash to spend as we want, no questions asked.
Now I am done school, we’re married and have a small child. I contribute almost equally salary-wise but we continue to each withdraw our $100/biweekly. In addition we also withdraw $400/week to cover all household expenses (food, clothing, gifts, transportation etc). We find with two people on one account it was too difficult to keep track using debit cards all the time. In addition, we also are able to keep a very low fee chequing account because we use so few transactions per month.
As for keeping track of spending, I don’t bother. I figure that the allowance money is pre-determined to be an amount that is affordable, fitting in our budget for savings and our other expenses. I actually find it kind of liberating having this money that I know is ‘free’ to spend, no questions asked or permissions needed (either from myself or my husbnad).
December 8th, 2008 at 6:15 am
We’re pretty meticulous about tracking every penny, except when it comes to our fun money. At the beginning of the month, I pull out cash for me and my husband, and that’s the last it’s ever discussed. It’s considered “spent” at that point. Throughout the month, we get to individually decide where we spend our own money. If I want to eat lunch out every day, I could probably do that. If I want to save it all toward a big fun purchase, I could do that, too.
My husband keeps his as cash in his wallet. I deposit mine into a separate checking account and use a debit card. I want to keep track of every penny, he doesn’t.
It works out well for us - we still meet our larger goals, have a strict overall budget, but get to indulge at our own discretion without having to justify it to anyone else.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:20 am
Eric– what stops people from going back to the ATM is the same thing that will keep them from going anytime they want, with or without an allowance: A decision to do things differently. You can’t change their mindset– only they can, and their habits will change as a result.
We get paid weekly and I need to be accountable to the budget weekly anyway. For a while I tried to go without allowances–because I thought it was lame too– but my husband is a huge impulse spender with many habits I refuse to budget for, such as: “I need to drink Mountain Dew,” and “I’m surprisingly hungry every day around lunchtime, but I simply cannot anticipate that event before I leave for work.”
So I squeezed 80 bucks out of the budget for grown up allowances. As far as tracking, if you had kids, you’d be handing them 5 bucks a week, and you’d mark it in your budget as “Allowance.” Same with us, except we get $10 a week. Because we’re bigger. (We’re paid weekly, so my budget is weekly, and I need weekly accountability anyway.) I’ve found it’s nice too, because when someone asks me out for lunch, as long as it’s reasonably priced, I can go with no guilt.
I’m also all cash, because the point of cash and envelopes is you’re pre-tracked: 100 for food, when it’s gone, no more food. If there’s 10 left, you spent 90 on food. I have three teenagers and a job, and everything must work on the KISS principle as much as humanly possible. I don’t want to sit down to key a Kroger visit when I have ten bags of groceries to put away.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:23 am
For me, an ATM pull isn’t an expense — it’s a transfer to the “wallet” account. Most of the time, the balance is accurate, down to the penny. And, no this level of exactitude doesn’t drive me crazy. In fact, I think it’s therapeutic.
I’ve used Quicken since 1993, but I’ve never recorded the vague “Misc. expense”. I’d rather create a new category (or modify an existing one) than fail to label something properly.
Sub-categories are your friend. And sometimes, sub-sub-sub-categories (such as Home > Utilities > Internet > Fiber). Another example: every food purchase is sub-divided into either groceries, restaurant, lunch, snacks/sweets, fast food, or alcohol. That way, I know approximately how gluttonous I’ve been for any particular time period. And that ‘Quantum of Solace’? Easy: Entertainment > Cinema. (Not to be confused with Entertainment > Theatre)
December 8th, 2008 at 6:23 am
We’ve been doing this for years, and it works great!
December 8th, 2008 at 6:24 am
I was of the same mind as you were until I forced myself on an “adult allowance” about 6 months ago after I changed jobs and had to switch bank accounts. Instead of getting my salary paid into my personal account and then paying the bills from there, my salary is now deposited into the family account. I set up a personal account separate from the family account and transfer a certain amount each month. I use this money for all costs outside of the family spending: public transportation, entertainment, breakfast and lunch (while at work), gym membership, etc.. The rest of the bills are payed from the family account.
I keep a detailed spreadsheet on Google docs so I can update it from work or from home. I add an entry in my spreadsheet for every penny I spend, so that it doesn’t matter weather I used my debit card or cash.
For me, having a lump sum labeled as “Misc Expenses” is just not detailed enough - I really want to know exactly what I am spending my cash on and where I can reduce my spending. It took me a while to get used to keeping track of what I was spending, but it really has changed the way that I spend money.
As a side benefit, I also started keeping track of how much Coca-Cola I drink (on the same Google docs spreadsheet). I knew I drank too much Coke much but never really kept track. I was surprised to find out how much I actually drank and this motivated me to significantly cut down my consumption (from 2.5 500 mL bottles a day to 0.5 bottles a day).
December 8th, 2008 at 6:24 am
I use a computerized “envelope” method of budgeting and I have an envelope called “Allowance”. Beyond that, I don’t track it; it’s completely discretionary.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:30 am
I have two separate checking accounts, my ING account covers the things I need, and my local bank account covers my wants. I have a small portion of each paycheck direct deposited into my local bank, but the majority of the money goes to the ING account. I never thought of it as an allowance, but I guess it really is. This way I can use the debit cards for both accounts to track both wants and needs, but still keep them separate.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:32 am
The adult allowance, or mad money as we call it, works very well for us. Although it took several months of adjusting to find the right amount for my husband. We had to keep raising the monthly amount to fit his spending. But he still spends far less using cash than he did before. He’s gotten in the habit of only carrying a small part of his allowance with him. It helps him manage the money and make it last.
As far as tracking, you do have a general idea of what you’re spending the money on. If that category gets to be a problem then you can keep a diary or save receipts for a month to get a more detailed picture.
Amounts and spending. As a stay at home mom to a preschooler, I receive $60 per month to spend on entertainment for me and my daughter. This is enough for 1 fast food meal for 2, 1 coffee shop trip, one fun kiddie event and maybe a dinner out with friends. My husband receives $75 for lunches and dinners out and a haircut. Like I said earlier, it took some adjustment for my husband. He was used to eating lunch out all the time and charging several hundred dollars on the credit card. It took about 5 months of adjusting before we found the sweet spot of $125 a month. To support him, I made sure all weekday dinners produced leftovers, packed them up for him, and encouraged him to buy food to keep at his desk. A few months ago we needed to cut spending and he adjusted easily to spending only $75 a month.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:36 am
Does anyone use the extra money left over as “rollover” money? - ie: saving money for a big ticket item and not buying it until you have saved enough of your fun money to justify it?
December 8th, 2008 at 6:38 am
@Melanie:
It was sort of rhetorical question but your reply was specifically my point–no matter if you use envelopes or allowances or any other tricks, it makes no difference if the person isn’t committed to changing their ways. And it’s not like I’m out trying to change people (if that’s how it seemed), many clients come looking for help in changing their mindset. They come in complaining of an inability to save or to control their spending habits, despite using all of the so called “tricks” that get mentioned in forums and pf blogs, but to no avail.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Anything that helps you exercise more control over your dollars is a good thing. Remember there is an entire industry (advertising) devoted to separating you from your money. Many of the things they do ride the line of morality. Of course the more you want to be in control, the more control you will have, but like anything else, it is always one day at a time.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:54 am
I use Quicken and treat cash withdrawals as “entertainment.” It is basically always eating out, drinks at happy hour, a coffee in the morning, stuff like that. These are things I consider as luxuries and non-necessities. Not tracking every penny of it makes it more enjoyable. Month to month I look at my “entertainment” expenses and gauge if it is to high or to low and adjust. I don’t have a set amount that I start with, but the idea sounds good so I may try it. Good article.
December 8th, 2008 at 6:58 am
Regarding tracking of cash payments i just use my mobile phone, something that all of us have always with us so at the moment i make the payment i take out my phone and i create a memo (on daily/weekly/monthly basis depending on the level of detail e.g. personally i don’t care on which day i spent the money but only for totals on a monthly basis)and then once a week i just copy the numbers to the excel file i use to penny track my expenses.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:07 am
We have been doing this for about a year now. Just £50 each a month for ‘fun stuff’. The reason being my husband is an avid collector of DVDs, books, magazines whereas I am not, and he would feel guilty that he was spending more than ‘his share’ of our combined income. Now we both have £50 to spend guilt-free each month!
December 8th, 2008 at 7:09 am
While $200 a month doesn’t seem like much, it becomes $2400 per year spent on unlabeled non-essentials. And if both spouses give themselves an equal allowance, that becomes $4800 per year per couple - or $9600 after only two years.
I also suspect that an allowance isn’t the only money spent on “extras”, since it’s very easy to throw extra items into a grocery cart that become part of the bill labeled “food”. (Is wine an extra? How about chocolate chips? It’s a fuzzy science.)
So, I don’t subscribe to the allowance idea, because it feels like a license to spend money I wouldn’t otherwise. Just think how much financial security people would have if the same actions that get them out of debt were continued for years after becoming debt-free. If you can get a thrill from saving money, make it a challenge to see how much of that allowance you can keep to place into savings at the end of the month.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:13 am
I’ve always done the “adult allowance” thing because it prevents me from using my credit card.
Here’s how I do it: I simply take out $60 per week and use it for gas, occasional coffee, etc. This may sound a little extreme, but I don’t buy lunch or do much impulse shopping, so I usually have some cash left over at the end of the week.
I would suggest folks try it for a week! Oh, we live just a few minutes outside the largest city in the US (so it can be done!).
Best,
Scordo
December 8th, 2008 at 7:20 am
All this sounds like is the Envelope System that Dave Ramsey (and others) recommend. I’ve been using it for many categories for years.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Eric (#14) wrote: One thing that I did think of while reading your post, was the problem with poor money management. If someone cannot budget money, or has no self-control, what is to stop them from just going back to the ATM when the money runs out before the end of the month, especially if they never really had any kind of structure like that in their life before?
Yes, this is very important. I think this is an example of doing what works for you and your situation. This sort of allowance would not have worked for me a decade ago. For one, I was basically living like this already, but pulling the money whenever I wanted it and spending it willy-nilly.
The only reason the adult allowance works for me now is that I’ve manage to tighten the screws on the rest of my financial life.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:25 am
We’ve just created a budget (after finding this blog and getting informed about personal finance). Things are tight and our expenses are high (daycare for 2 year-old twins is as much as our mortgage!). My husband and I each get a $20 allowance each week for discretionary spending. This would include lunches out, beer or wine, a cup of coffee or tea. We had to eliminate dining out from our budget. So if we want to go out - we save our allowance and combine forces, so to speak. Any unspent $ is saved in a mad money jar. We used our last mad money jar stash for a date night to the movies when my Mom was in town (free babysitting!). It’s fun to see how little we can spend throughout the week - definitely motivates us to pack our lunches!
December 8th, 2008 at 7:27 am
I don’t use an adult allowance per se but I do all my household spending cash. I keep track of if by requesting receipts and marking it in a small note book. I divided into 4 catagouries Gas Shopping Misc and Coffee. For misc expenses car repairs, new running shoes etc I simply note the amount at the bottom of the page. end of week and month I add up all the expenses.
I find this much easier to track my spending this way than with the computer.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Jeff (#28) wrote: Does anyone use the extra money left over as “rollover” money? - ie: saving money for a big ticket item and not buying it until you have saved enough of your fun money to justify it?
I’ve thought of this, but because I’m new at the allowance, I haven’t actually done it. I’m not sure how this would work for me, though. The really big things that I want to save for — like a car — have their own special subaccounts that I’m using. Of course, one thing I could do is if I have cash at the end of the month, explicitly re-route it to the car account or the vacation account or whatever.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:32 am
I’d like to piggy-back on what JD just said in #36. I used to spend willy-nilly (as long as bills were paid). I used to think that $2-3 ATM was reasonable and really didn’t care about the fee. Since I’ve “tighten the screws” on my personal spending and budgeting, I rarely use an ATM that charges me a fee. That alone is probably saving me $100-150/year. I think you need to “tighten the screws” before you can start experimenting with allowances and such.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:33 am
I think the best way to track your cash is to get in the habit of always asking for a receipt.
The next best thing you can do is enter your transactions daily.
Another option would be to just expense your $200 when you withdraw it and call it ‘fun money’ or something like that.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:34 am
Excellent, J.D.!
We give ourselves $100 per week each. At the end of the week, the leftover goes in an envelope and is used to purchase wine by the case. This works out to about 1 case every 3 - 4 weeks.
The beauty of the system is that instead of eating lunch out, I’ll pack a sandwich - do that twice a week and there’s a bottle of our favorite table red!
J.D. I just ask for receipts for everything, stick ‘em in an envelope and go over the receipts every month to see where the pocket $ went. A little clunky but it works.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:38 am
(I don’t know how to quote on here.)
I absolutely roll-over our blow money. We get a new set every two weeks regardless of what has been spent before.
I do not think it is a license to spend money that I wouldn’t have spent otherwise. First, in my case, we are talking about a whopping $10/wk! Second, going out to lunch once a week is something I have done for YEARS and this just puts that expense into the “allowance” category.
Extras can be thrown into the grocery cart, but since the amount budgetted for groceries (also in cash) is also finite, there is a limit to how many extras can be put there as well. A 99 cent can of pringles is much easier to add than a case of beer.
It really all comes down to having a plan and having the desire and discipline to adhere to it!
December 8th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Ask for receipts, update your “misc” (which I would retitle “untracked”) entry with the amounts you’ve spent so far each time you’re using Quicken and at the end of the month you’ll either have a balance remaining in Untracked equal to the amount you missed tracking or you’ll have cash in your pocket of the balance. It’s just like reconciling the petty cash for a business. You can continue to update it as it’s spent even if you exceed the end of the month to do it. This way you track what you can and it’s still no more hassle than updating your downloaded debit/credit spending.
December 8th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Love the idea of adult allowance. We have been using the cash allowance system for about a year. It has actually improved our marriage! My husband and I each get our $$ at the beginning of the month, no strings attached! We each spend (or save) the money as we see fit and everyone is happy.
Toni
December 8th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Hello,
For recording these transactions I put in my money management program ATM withdraw and then SPLIT the individual transactions that I have saved with paper receipts. The effect on my monthly report is that I have an account of every penny spent and the category.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:00 am
I love love love my allowance. It’s one line item in my budget and I don’t track how I spend it. I give myself $200 per paycheck (so basically $400/month) which is supposed to cover all food and wants.
Since starting to give myself an allowance, I’ve seen my bank account grow substantially. I don’t think I will ever go back to using my debit card as “cash” again.
Do I sometimes go over and use my debit card? Yes, but because I have this allowance it means there is always wiggle room in the back account since it restricts my casual spending so much.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Been using “allowance” ever since my husband and I combined our money (I think it’s even more important if you have joint money to have some of your own). We keep it in separate accounts and use our debit card to access (neither of us keeps a lot of cash on hand). I like to keep a sizable balance (in case I have a bigger want) while my husband is usually at zero. I really feel that our allowance has kept the financial peace in our family.
Next year we’re also going to try going to a cash allownce system for our household wants. I just read All Your Worth (thanks for the rec. JD) and we’re working out the system to fit our situation. Wish us luck.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:18 am
I track pocket money like this using the ATM receipt. I keep it in my wallet and jot down what I spend as I go, usually rounding to the nearest dollar. There’s almost always a pen at the checkout.
When I’ve spent all the cash, I take the receipt and record the details of what I spent in Mint using the “split” feature.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:20 am
My wife and I do this, I find it avoids conflicts about how we spend “our” money. We get $100 each a month in “Fun Money” that we can spend however we feel like. All other expenditures generally have to be agreed upon.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:21 am
I’ve been bad about tracking my cash spending as well. I try to track everything in Quicken, and whenever I hit an ATM, I record it as a transfer into my Cash Account. Of course, then I have to record my cash purchases. I used to just do a couple of lump expenses every month or so to reflect what I felt like I had spent money on (usually dining and entertainment).
What I’ve started doing now is keeping a small post-it note in my wallet and recording what I spend, rounded up to the nearest dollar (since I keep a change bucket). “12/1 - Coffee - 2, Lunch - 8″
My wife and I have also implemented an adult allowance, though I find it somewhat difficult to stick with for 2 reasons: 1) I always have my credit and debit cards in my wallet. 2) To earn the higher interest rate on my checking account, I need to use my debit card for 12 purchases a month. Inevitably, I use my debit card for lunch purchases when I should be using cash. But what I do instead is take out less cash for my allowance (say $60 instead of $100).
December 8th, 2008 at 8:22 am
What I found works for me is to create a “to do” on my cell phone when I spend cash with the name of the establishment and the amount since not all cash places give you receipts.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Tracking every penny (including cash) is an important tool in Debtors Anonymous. Given that, when I started in DA, I put an index card in my wallet. The ATM receipt as Lee (#50) suggested would work just as well. For the few cash transactions where I don’t get a receipt, I scribble down how much I spent and on what. I have a separate “Cash on Hand” account in Quicken and I enter my cash spending there the same way I do in my checking account.
I guess it depends on your personal circumstances, and how closely you want or need to track your spending. Closely tracking even “fun money” sounds like a “no fun” deal, but it can also be a lifesaver.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:34 am
yeah, this is the reason you have a budget, so you can allocate enough money to expenses while having money to spend on want items. don’t get the allowance concept.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:36 am
I went to this system to HELP with my record keeping. I hated balancing my checkbook full of $8 purchases, so I use cash for anything under $15 or so. My checkbook stays much less uncluttered.
While I’m at the ATM, I pull out an extra $20 when I have travel coming up, and then I bring a repository for cash so I don’t have to use my card at all.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:37 am
DH and I have had “allowances” for years, and I agree with Adrienne that it’s very helpful with combined finances. We pull out a set amount of cash every week for the two of us ($100/week total), and no questions are asked. We’ve had long stretches of having one wage earner (school, kids, etc.), and giving both of us an allowance meant that neither person got “more” because they were caring for the kids and managing the household instead of working for pay.
Another major benefit of allowances for me was that I no longer have to see his vice spending (junk food, soda, cigarettes (!) ) on our credit cards. If he wants to spend his money on those things, then it’s “his money”, and he has to prioritize those items over other choices and use only the cash on hand (same as the kids and I do).
December 8th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Hmm I don’t do this but I think it’s interesting. One issue we have with our current situation is that since I am very conscious of our budget my husband says he feels like he can’t buy anything for himself even though I say go ahead as long as you track it. It’s good that he’s not naturally a spender, but I don’t want him to feel like he can’t. Maybe if he got an adult “allowance” even if $100 a month he will feel more autonomy from the tyranny of the budget.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:42 am
I’m really bad at every-penny tracking, so I give myself 100 bucks a week and out of that comes fun food, comic books, concert tickets, et cetera. I transfer the money to my checking/debit card account on Thursday night, and it’s the only money in that account so when it’s gone, it’s gone.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Our system is a little different, but along the same lines. I go to the ATM once a week and withdraw $300. Immediately afterward, I head to the grocery and complete any other miscellaneous errands. Anything left is mad money, which I split with my husband. It may seem like a lot, but using this system, my spouse and I managed to squirrel away $45k in two years, while also saving for our kids’ college expenses and fully funding his 401k/my IRA. Unlike some earlier posters, I don’t consider this wasted money, and I don’t feel the need to track it. Our savings needs are already met, so why not enjoy life with the amount that remains? I think the adult allowance is a great idea!
December 8th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Although I don’t necessarily do an adult allowance, I do track my cash expenses. For example, yesterday, I had around $100 cash combined from two sources, and planned on spending it on Christmas presents. I went to my Quicken, and “deposited” (in Quicken) $30, which was my friend owing me for dinner (which I tracked to credit the dinner category, so it would show that I technically didn’t spend $30 of my original amount in that category). I then “deposited” my $70 from an odd-job, and tracked it as salary. I then “withdrew” the money as CASH and used the category of gifts. Since I used all $100 for gifts that worked just fine. Otherwise, you have to save your receipts and go back to “split” the transaction to truly represent what you spend your cash on. It may seem tedious, but if you are hyper-organized with your money as some of us are, you will appreciate how accurately it reflects your budget/spending (I use the categories in Quicken because I keep my budget in Quicken, so I can run reports and see where/how I have spent my money, and where I need to cut back on). Since I get paid cash sometimes for odd jobs (tutoring), I often make sure to “deposit” and “withdrawl” it from Quicken to see that I am earning extra money, but also what I am spending it on!
December 8th, 2008 at 8:56 am
I usually only pull out cash for the farmers markets (as part of the food budget), because I didn’t trust myself not to spend it otherwise. Lately, I decided to keep an extra $20 to see how long it would last and surprisingly, it can last up to a week. Coffee to me is a luxury, something to splurge on during the weekend so you’ll never see me running to the local cafe daily so that doesn’t eat up.
I’m big on debit and credit cards, so usually even small purchases (like a $8 bottle of wine) goes on debit or credit, but I track everything anyway.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:57 am
I do much the same. I take out $120 every 2 weeks for gas and groceries (I live alone). What ever I don’t use on G&G, I get to spend. Needless to say, there usually isn’t much left over and so it goes into my “savings” jar. After a few months there is enough there to purchse something special.
December 8th, 2008 at 8:57 am
When I take the cash out of our account, I put it under ATM/Cash. I track my expenses on my phone’s notepad. I keep the date, amount, and abbreviated description. When I input these (at least weekly), I reduce the ATM/Cash category for each transaction I recorded and put them into the appropriate categories (eating out, entertainment, etc).
December 8th, 2008 at 9:00 am
My husband and I have had allowances for years. We each get $60/week. DH takes his out every week; I get mine every pay period, so $120 at a time. This money is not to be spent on budget items like groceries or gas but on anything else we want — NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
I’ll usually only carry $20-40 in my wallet because I want to save up to buy something more expensive, such as a new camera, tripod, etc. I also use my cash for a monthly massage, lunch with friends, or a new book. My husband uses his cash to play golf, save up to buy new golf clubs, and for cash business expenses. After his company pays him for his expense reports, he reimburses himself for the cash he spent.
In Quicken, I record this as Allowance-Barb or Allowance-Mike. That’s it. Very easy to keep track of and no need to feel guilty spending money on yourself when there are so many other pressing needs around the house. We all work hard and need to feel that we get to enjoy the fruits of our labor on a personal level.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:11 am
I have a “cash” column in the Excel spreadsheet I use to track my spending. When I make an ATM withdrawal I note that under the “Out” Column from the appropriate account (generall checking), and then when I spend the cash, it goes under the “Cash” column. This was helpful because, during college, my grandparents would “help with gas” by stuffing $20 bills into my hand as they left. Thus, the money I was spending never technically went “into” the bank - just my wallet. I’d usually spend it on gas within days, and it got tricky for me to differentiate between money that had come out of the bank versus “presents”.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:11 am
My system is to overbudget all my expense categories by $10-$20. It doesn’t sound like much, but it adds up to a couple hundred bucks every month. If I’m under by $100, then I just roll that over into savings. If I’m particularly good at reining in my expenses and save more than $100, I’ll let myself use it for a want item.
This way I’m always spending what I know I’ve already saved… just my own peculiar psychological trick, I guess.
In terms of the actual money, I don’t give myself a cash allowance, since I get rewards for just about everything I buy on my 2 credit cards (which I always pay off in full). Mint is also super helpful at tracking my spending, but since my variable expenses are groceries and occasional gifts, it’s not too hard for me to ballpark what I’ve spent each month. I’m sure that will change drastically once I have kids!
Lucky you, scoring tix to the Decemberists!
December 8th, 2008 at 9:14 am
I use the cash that I earn from my small home business as my spending money. Everything else is paid out of my full-time job earnings. I find that by using cash, and using only the cash I earn from my home business, I am much more discretionary about how it is spent.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:17 am
I use pocket quicken on my Palm PDA to track my cash expenses. I quit caring about the pennies and only track whole dollars in or out. So, if I throw in change to cover a $5.37 cent item, it is only $5 that gets tracked. Conversely, If I didn’t have enough change, I would track $6.
You can set up an expense category for your allowance to help track how much you have left.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:38 am
I instituted an allowance system ($40/wk each) for the two ends of the spectrum listed here. I am a penny counter and felt guilt every time I spent money on myself. And DH doesn’t pay any attention and would constantly overspend if he wasn’t limited to cash on hand. This also ended an ongoing disagreement about a reasonable number of times to eat lunch out every week.
We have also instituted a cash system for entertainment and eating out.
It was pointed out that taking this much cash out of the budget is a lot of money to “waste”. I think we all need to waste a little money. Unless you are one of those people that enjoys self deprivation, one of the biggest budget busters is going cold turkey and not spending any money on yourself. Because of this I have actually noticed my budget tightening up.
I refuse to try to track this money because a) it would make me feel guilty for no real reason and b) it would be next to impossible to get DH to account for his spending.
This personal budget money is primarily for lunches, but it is understood that toys must come out of this as well. I recently bought “Dance Dance Revolution” for myself out of this money.
Leftover entertainment/eatout money is treated similarly. It goes into a tin and might be used for those rare weeks that we go over budget, but otherwise it is intended as spending money when we go on vacation.
Incidentally we use a similar system with space. DH is a collector and has all sorts of stupid items and toys that I want him to get rid of. Now we each have a space “budget”. If it’s in his footlocker I don’t care if he keeps it, but it keeps him from taking over the whole house with “stuff”.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:43 am
This won’t work for everyone, but you mentioned the reason it works for me and might work for you: guilt. I don’t spend a lot of extra money and my husband spends next to none, with one exception. We love to go out to eat. So instead of “fun money” we just pay for all food (from groceries down to gum and snacks) with this cash. It lets us evaluate whether or not we really can afford to go out to eat. The best part is, when we can, it is completely guilt-free.
I was worried about how this would work at Costco, for example. It was pretty painless to separate my food items from everything else. If I was using multiple cash groups, though, it might get more complicated. Since mine is food, I mark it as food when I withdraw the money.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:43 am
The biggest downfall of working with cash is tracking where the cash was spent. In-order to track it you either have to keep track of all your receipts or just guestimate what the cash was spent on. This is a constant issue I have, because like you I track ever penny spent. My wife especially takes advantage of this “loophole” in my finance tracking, she will occasionally takes out cash if she is purchasing something that she doesn’t want me to know about. I guess Adult Allowance might be a solution, but tracking is still a hurdle of mine.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:43 am
The Quicken issue is actually pretty easily solved. I set up a Cash account in it — as I recall, it’s a distinct account type — and when I withdraw cash, I categorize it as [Cash], transferring it. Then I just categorize my cash expenses normally. So long as you’re already in the habit of updating Quicken frequently, it’s really not that hard to recall what you spend. (Or you can keep your receipts, whichever is easier.)
As for controlling how much money I spend, that’s easy for me. I don’t have an ATM card for my main checking account, and my bank is inconveniently located. If I need cash, I have to write a check, deposit into my account I /do/ have an ATM card for, wait a couple days for it to clear, and then make a withdrawal. It’s a hassle, but it does keep me from loading up on cash whenever I feel like it.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:47 am
I understand Trina’s point (#34), but one thing that really helped get my finances under control was accepting that previous budgets hadn’t worked because I’d failed to take into account my own personality. While some people thrive under very strict budgets, I found that I’d do well for 2-3 months, and then I’d fall off the wagon, usually in a very big way.
When I finally got serious about improving my finances, I found that I had a choice. I could go hard core debt reduction all of the time, and theoretically eliminate my debt within perhaps 3 years, or I could go “slow and steady”, paying it off over a longer period of time. I recognized that while the faster schedule is technically better, it would be hard for me to keep up that level of motivation over a long enough period to get rid of the debt. 6 months? Maybe, but definitely not 3 years.
Without going into a long drawn out explanation of the journey that I took, I eventually settled upon a combination of strict and permissive budgeting. It works really well with my personality, because while I’m making serious inroads in paying down my debt, I don’t feel that frustration and deprivation that sabotaged previous debt reduction attempts. In turn, the positive rewards of staying on the budget over the long haul have helped motivate me further, so that over time, I’ve actually reduced my expenses even more.
To explain, my monthly budget includes a very strict payment that goes directly towards my debt reduction. I’m on a set schedule and I will be fully paid off in about 3.5 years. It also includes a payment towards our baby emergency fund. Those expenses are non-negotiable. I do not allow myself to spend a dime until I’ve covered them.
On a weekly scale for personal expenditures, I use a “Cash Envelope” system. I take out a weekly amount that covers my lunch and any other sundries. It’s budgeted loose enough that I have around $10-20 that is sort of a contingency fund, so I can cover an unexpected situation, like having to pick up some batteries. Any money that’s left over at the end of the week, as well as my change, goes into “The Can” which is literally just a coffee can, and is my “free-to-spend” cash. Sometimes I use it to cover a night out with friends, other times I save it up for something exciting, like the digital camera I bought last month.
In my overall budget, I also allow for larger indulgences, but once again they are fully budgeted for. As an example, I knew we were traveling this past summer to celebrate my parent’s 50th anniversary. I determined an amount that I needed to save, both for the travel itself and for fun and entertainment while on the trip, and I worked for about 9 months to save the full amount. I was able to have a fabulous time on the trip without any financial worries. The best part was that because I budget generously, I was not only ready if we’d had an unexpected expense, but when we got home, we then had a nice surplus to put towards general household upkeep.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:52 am
I have very few “discretionary expenses” short of eating out with my girlfriend. I work in the entertainment industry so things like movies, books, comic books, and dining out with most of my friends (who also work in the industry) are business expenses and budgeted and accounted for accordingly.
All spending on things like entertainment get tracked like everything else, save the receipt and reconcile at the end of the day or end of the week.
By crafting a lifestyle that allows me to write off the majority of my spending (effectively halving the costs per item) gives me a much higher percentage of my income available for these things.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:55 am
I thought it was a silly idea at first myself, but it has SAVED my budget. I’m really new to budgeting and controlling my spending (childhood background did not include much in finances). Having that $25 a week allows me to get things that I would feel guilty taking out of our joint account (makeup, ladies?). At first I just used it for lunches out and snacks but then I start to realize that I can use that for my own little ’savings goals’. I now am putting half of my “fun budget” in a HYSA to save up for an all out, expenses paid trip to Disneyland as a birthday gift for my sister. Eventually it will come out of our joint, but as my DH’s job just cut his hours, we agreed that for at least a couple months it would come out of my fun budget and any extra we had in the budget at the end of the month.
My DH didn’t really have anythign against having a fun budget for me but didn’t think it would work for him. But now, after 6 months, we’ll probably get one set up for him for his 360 games and whatever else once his job is figured out.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Can someone please explain the obsession with tracking every penny? Once the big budget categories are paid, including savings, what does it matter how exactly you fritter away a cash allowance, as long as it shows up as an expected expense?
In my case, I don’t care whether I spend my allowance on a book, a coffee, or a dessert, and I’m not sure it matters in the long run.
I guess I could see tracking those expenses over the short term to see if I needed to create or increase a budget category (e.g., if I notice that I’m using my allowance to purchase gloves for the kids, then perhaps I need to increase the annual clothing budget); otherwise, I don’t see the point. It seems like a lot of busy work to me.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:04 am
“— how do you handle the record-keeping?”
There is a simple way to track all your spending - it’s called the receipt.
We get a receipt for EVERYTHING. It all gets entered into a little filemaker tracking database I made. All the receipts get tossed in an envelope for the month.
So, internet bill payments - pay, enter into database, print receipt, go in envelope.
Cash purchase at starbucks - ask for receipt, enter into database, receipt into envelope.
Etc.
In the case of losing money on football game bets (or making it for that matter), make a little note to self as a receipt, record it in the database, toss the note into the envelope.
Analogue, paper receipts for the discipline and habit of tracking every penny; digital database to slice and dice and analyze the information.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:09 am
For awhile, I was withdrawing $40 in cash per week and not really paying attention to where it went, but I had trouble with that. Not trouble in the sense that I overspent, but trouble in that not every month has 4 or 5 exact weeks and I budget monthly. So, one month I would have 4 withdrawals and one month I would have 5, and so on. I wanted to be working with the same amount every month for “fun money.” Then I read an article somewhere about how people don’t realize just how much they are spending on going out to eat. Now, I have never been one to go out to lunch every day, but I do love a Jamba Juice or a Starbucks, or a dinner out more often than I should. So, I tried to limit my eating out to $10 per week, but I am tired of having to keep track of “eating out” cash separately from the rest of the “fun money” cash. So, I think I will withdraw cash twice a month–$60 on the 1st and $60 on the 16th for a total of $120 and use it for eating out as well as other fun stuff. Once it is gone, then I stop.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Karen wrote: Can someone please explain the obsession with tracking every penny? Once the big budget categories are paid, including savings, what does it matter how exactly you fritter away a cash allowance, as long as it shows up as an expected expense?
Well, as for me, I’m curious, not obsessed. I like to know where my cash goes, especially on things like eating out at work. I also like to record when I make cash, like by selling something on Craigslist. I don’t bother tracking change, I just round up to the nearest dollar. It helps me keep tabs on myself, since I don’t use an explicit allowance system. (Although I do budget for “misc,” aka “I forgot what I spent this on.”)
December 8th, 2008 at 10:12 am
My husband and I have joint checking and savings accounts. At the beginning of each month, we each get $175 allowance. I generally use mine for dining out when he’s not joining me (dining out together comes out of our joint account). He generally uses his on miscellaneous guy stuff. Gas, groceries, etc. all come out of our joint account. I track everything by category except his allowance … I don’t look at anything related to his personal checking/savings/creditcard.
To Karen (#77) - the “obsession” is because the only way to make changes to your spending is to know what you’re spending your money on. For you, books, coffees, and desserts all seem to fall into the same category of “treating yourself”. Do you think you’d ever like to know if you’re spending $100 or $500 on the “treating yourself” category? And if it’s actually costing you $2,000, maybe there are other things you’re wishing you had $2,000 for.
If someone’s giving themselves an allowance, then it probably doesn’t matter that everything in it gets tracked, if they know it’s their “things I don’t really need, but want to budget $xxx to waste on” category. Personally, I want to be able to see whether all my money has gone to fast food or RedBox, and how much I could save if I brought my lunch to work more often.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:19 am
@Karen:
You sort of answered your own question. Budgeting and tracking for the short term allows you to make needed adjustments as time goes on. By analyzing spending in the near-term, you have the flexibility to make budget adjustments to prevent issued in the long run. The problem with only looking at the long-term is that by the time a problem arises, it may already be out of control where steps could have been taken to prevent problems by paying attention to near-term spending as well.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:19 am
I think perhaps I inappropriately used the term obsession earlier, and I apologize. I also temporarily forgot that not everyone is at the same point in their financial lives. I’ve stopped categorizing those little indulgences, other than as my allowance, because it no longer matters to my long-term financial health. I forgot for a moment how I got here, and a lot of it centered around tracking every penny when I was younger.
@Eric…You make a good point. Spot checking is something I still do to make sure I’m on track, particularly when a budget category is pushing its boundaries.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:23 am
A lot of fantastic comments here. It is amazing how different people use different ideas to budget. I like the pull a little cash and that’s it idea. Do what you want, but that’s it.
Married couples doing the separate bank accounts is a super idea to. Especially in the age of free bank accounts. Most successful marriages do this these days I believe.
Great post!
December 8th, 2008 at 10:23 am
My son and his wife were having trouble because she was spending a lot on wants. I suggested that they each get an allowance to avoid overspending. Since both of their paychecks vary due to overtime and sometimes cutbacks they each take a set percentage as their allowance each payday. When they work more they have more spending money.
I use an envelope for my allowance. As I take cash out, I put the receipt in or write the amount on the outside of the envelope and what it was for. When you see a dozen $2.00 or less receipts it is time to rethink what the heck I wasted money on.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:32 am
We’ve been doing this for quite a while now, and we call it “Mad Money”. This has been one of the best things for our marriage. Here’s how we do it:
I use GnuCash to keep our accounts, which is great because you can create sub-accounts. We have a Cash account, subdivided into my mad $ account, and his (we do the rest of our spending with debit or credit, and pay it off each month). We each get $40/month, and it goes in an envelope. Birthday money also gets deposited here. If my husband wants to carry some of the cash with him, he can write a note on the envelope to say that he withdrew, say, $20. When I sit down to do finances, I log it as an expense, and, as far as I’m concerned, the money has disappeared. Then he gets to spend it on whatever he wants. Before we did this, he felt very constrained, as he had to report every little expenditure, and felt dumb for not remembering exactly how his $20 became $12 in his wallet.
It definitely adds up, though, and we each find ourselves not spending for a while, and then splurging on something we feel like getting. We end up spending it largely on hobbies, snacks, entertainment, and supporting little causes here and there — like the 4th grader going around doing a fundraiser, and sometimes bigger causes.
My husband often comments on the fact that, since he knows it’s there, he doesn’t feel the need to spend it. It’s just comforting to know that *if* he wanted to buy a Wii, he could.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:33 am
my wife and i each receive 6% of paychecks for personal use. this is to include personal items such as food, clothing, haircuts, massages, sports fees, etc.
our income gets broken down to:
30% savings
12% personal
50% mortage, utilities, & groceries
this leaves 8% for unexpected usage or emergencies for the month. generally at the end of the month, it rolls over to savings or to home maintenance.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:35 am
oh yeah, this isn’t to say that it worked magically at first.
we started with 10% per person, but that included gas. we moved to a civilized city and that expense was cut out, which is why the 10% was brought down to 6%. ideally, we’d have that at 5%, each.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:37 am
It is, actually, a personal finance makeover of what, in the world of business, is called “Budget”.
Every little project is funded through an overall resources allocation. If every project meets the budget, there is no overspending risk at global level.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:38 am
This is how my husband and I work our finances as well. We each get an allowance when our paychecks are deposited. That is all we have for the ‘wanted’ things. It has worked wonders for us and we never bicker about what the other spends money on…none of our business since it isn’t coming out of our joint bill pay money.
THanks!
December 8th, 2008 at 10:40 am
I use a variation on the allowance system. I have multiple sources of income - a full time job that pays exactly the same amount every week, and a couple of part-time jobs that pay variable amounts every week or month or so, depending on how much I’ve worked. I also have a variety of expenses - some extremely regular, like my rent and phone bill, and some variable, like groceries, entertainment, and clothes.
Fortunately for me, my fixed expenses are significantly less than the income from my full-time job, so couple of months ago I decided to start using my fixed income to pay my fixed expenses (and make automatic savings deposits) and use my variable income to pay my variable expenses. Everything happens automatically for the fixed expenses, so I know so long as I have my job (fingers crossed) I never have to worry about not having money for the expenses that are non-negotiable (I include my utility payments with the “fixed” expenses even though they actually do vary a little bit).
My variable income I have directly deposited into a separate account from my regular paycheck, and I use this account to pay my credit cards, etc. I try to keep around $200-$300 in the account at any given time - any extra I roll over into my vacation savings account, so it still stays fun money but I’m spending it on what I think of as “deep” wants rather than shallow, right-now wants like an eggnog latte or something.
I haven’t been doing this for long - it may well break down the first time I need/want a new coat or some other big-ticket item, but so far I’m really enjoying it. It has taken away some of the guilt I had about spending money on frivolous things, and it has also helped me feel OK about taking days off from my part-time job, since I know I won’t be needing the money to pay the landlord or Sallie Mae. And my vacation account is growing fast!
December 8th, 2008 at 10:42 am
We used to do this… take $50 for each of us each month (I know it doesn’t sound like much… but it worked for us)… My husband is a spendthrift and feels as if he can’t EVER buy anything! SOOO giving him the money made it OK to use it however he wanted…Plus at the time he smoked and there was NO WAY that money was coming out of OUR MONEY! I on the otherhand, didn’t usually spend mine and would save it for later or give it to him! We don’t do that anymore and really need to get back to it…
BUT that may take awhile since we are just trying to make ends meet!
To comment #34 I must say this…..
I think it is OK, to spend money on yourselfs… WHY WOULD YOU WORK OTHERWISE???
Even if it is THOUSANDS a year… WHY work hard otherwise???? That is why it is called FUN MONEY afterall! I don’t think it needs to be tracked or anything! Putting FUN MONEY or ALLOWENCE in your budget… that IS tracking it! Unless you really have a spending problem or really want to know where it goes, then I don’t see a problem just spending it!!! When you take it out, it is tracking ALL the pennies from it! KWIM!?!?! Like someone said,,, the allowance I give my kids… I don’t keep track of! They get the money to spend on what they choose, I do however try to remind them HOW LONG it took to save the money and help them make good choices!
December 8th, 2008 at 10:43 am
You don’t need to track every penny of your “adult allowance”! That is the part that is liberating!
December 8th, 2008 at 11:00 am
We do what J does. On each paycheck, each of us retains a portion for personal spending. The rest goes to a joint account. From my personal spending, just over 30% goes directly to an mma. The rest is there for me to get cash out or eat out or whatever. I also have a credit card with reward points, so I try to do most of my purchases on that (which is easy since I do a lot of online shopping). I pay off my credit card first thing in the month. At the end of the month, anything left over $50 goes into my mma. This has worked well to improve my personal savings, and I was able to buy a laptop a few months ago. Every few months I go clothes shopping and spend a couple hundred in one shot. I don’t eat out much anymore (recently got on track with nutrition and weight loss). I use my savings to buy Christmas/birthday presents for my husband and “Santa” gifts for the family, which are things I want but the household doesn’t need, like replacing our flatware or glasses (shh, don’t tell anyone!). I don’t track my personal spending or balance my personal bank account.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:08 am
I lived in Japan for a year, which is completely a cash society and forced me to get a handle on my spending.
I had one budget for all my spending ~$25 a day, and that covered everything except for utilities and my transportation to work (which I was reimbursed for). I carried a small notebook with me, and had the date on the top of each page, and wrote down where every yen went. I mostly just filled it out during my train rides. This system worked perfectly for me, and I could easily decide not to buy coffee, or a magazine, and instead carry over that days extra amount to save for something bigger.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:12 am
This is just like a small envelope system but for only one of your categories - ‘Entertainment’. Sounds like a good idea to me since I also only use plastic and sometimes I’m not sure how much is left in my entertainment budget for the month.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:21 am
I currently don’t use the allowance method, but I like the idea. I find using my debit card allows me to better track my spending, but I find myself often overspending while doing this. I do use cash for many things, but I wouldn’t call my set up an allowance. I have been using an iPhone app to keep track of my spending and you can see my experiences here http://www.lifeisnothard.com/money/spend-iphone-budgeting-app/. I always have my phone on me, so it’s easy to quickly pull it out and enter the transaction when I’m out and using cash. I then put those transactions into my desktop budget program at the end of the week.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Robert and Kim Kiyosaki are famous for paying themselves first. Robert says that he would always pay himself before his creditors. There is a lot to be said for that level of commitment!
December 8th, 2008 at 11:43 am
I used to think that it was lame too until we started it back in October. Now we are hooked.
We each get $200 a month. We can spend it on aything we want, no questions asked. They include dining out, shopping for wants, movies, gifts etc. Of course, it is each person’s option to save for a bigger item. This month, we opted to buy a printer for Christmas so we contributed $70 each towards it. That left us with $130 each for other stuff. My husband is actually saving all his extra money to buy a $1300 camera.
I highly recommend this method. No guilt (for the most part) but still within the budget. This is the amount we agreed upon and so far it is about right.
We also use cash and it is up to the person to track spending. I track mine on Excel because I want to. He loves just accummulating his money for the camera without tracking.
-Charlotte
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PS: Our finances are together but this is just so we can take control of our spending. In many ways, we handle things separately but our money is ours, no matter who makes what.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Also a recent convert (just a month in). It’s working out well and helping me deal with my overdeveloped sense of cheapness.
The cool part is that I’m realizing that while I love to daydream about buying this and that, when it comes down to parting with cold, hard cash, there are very few things in the world that I actually want to commit to. I’m finding that my needs are simpler than even I thought.