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		<title>By: John C</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/12/27/learning-to-living-modestly/comment-page-1/#comment-161504</link>
		<dc:creator>John C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two income trap absolutely covers that. It destroys that myth as well, and discusses the actual numbers of home purchasing in terms of size and cost.  If you don&#039;t have time to read the book, here is a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two income trap absolutely covers that. It destroys that myth as well, and discusses the actual numbers of home purchasing in terms of size and cost.  If you don&#8217;t have time to read the book, here is a video<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true, at least for me, I have little need for more stuff. 

Instead of shopping on the day after Xmas, I was cleaning my house--in spite of the jjaw-dropping sales. I ended up going through boxes and boxes of clothes that I had in storage, taking out each item and stacking them according to whether they were pants, shirts, summer, winter--you get it--and when I was done I had a pile of clothes about 3 feet high in each category.

I realized in that moment that, barring perhaps some socks and underwear in a couple of years, I could easily not have to shop for clothes for 5-7 years. Which is what I decided to do, unless I have a specific reason to get a particular outfit. 

Most of my kitchen stuff is 30-40 years old and still works fine. I use a hand blender I inherited from my mother, dating from the late 60s. My cast iron pans were passed on in the family, and one of them is about 100 years old. Works great. My point is, stuff, carefully selected and properly cared for, and repaired when it breaks or presents small flaws, lasts a *long* time. 

There is, in fact, very little I need to buy on a weekly, monthly, or even half-yearly basis, when I sit down and think about it. Once you have the basic equipment of living, which in many cases can be either inherited or purchased secondhand,  most spending is unnecessary outside of housing and food, and food for one person can easily be brought down to below $100 per month if you eat exclusively in and pack your lunches and travel food (I admit, it has taken a few years of changing my habits to get to this low level of food spending).

Our basic needs (for &quot;stuff&quot;) are very simple and are easy to provide in the society we live in. In fact, my most treasured possessions of late are warm turtlenecks and a couple of sweaters that keep me toasty-comfortable in my house, which is at between 50 and 60 degrees, depending on the part of the day and the part of the house. (The bedroom, only used for sleeping, often gets down to 45 on cold nights, yet I am perfectly comfortable because I  have set the bed up for those temperatures).

All of this brings up the point that, once you stop pleasure- or distraction-shopping , shopping only when actually necessary, and normalize putting a good chunk of your income as savings, which itself leads to less worrying and even less time spent being concerned about financial things,    what do you do with yourself in your freed-up time? At that point you may find yourself facing yourself and your existence and wondering,&quot; what do I do now, and why?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true, at least for me, I have little need for more stuff. </p>
<p>Instead of shopping on the day after Xmas, I was cleaning my house&#8211;in spite of the jjaw-dropping sales. I ended up going through boxes and boxes of clothes that I had in storage, taking out each item and stacking them according to whether they were pants, shirts, summer, winter&#8211;you get it&#8211;and when I was done I had a pile of clothes about 3 feet high in each category.</p>
<p>I realized in that moment that, barring perhaps some socks and underwear in a couple of years, I could easily not have to shop for clothes for 5-7 years. Which is what I decided to do, unless I have a specific reason to get a particular outfit. </p>
<p>Most of my kitchen stuff is 30-40 years old and still works fine. I use a hand blender I inherited from my mother, dating from the late 60s. My cast iron pans were passed on in the family, and one of them is about 100 years old. Works great. My point is, stuff, carefully selected and properly cared for, and repaired when it breaks or presents small flaws, lasts a *long* time. </p>
<p>There is, in fact, very little I need to buy on a weekly, monthly, or even half-yearly basis, when I sit down and think about it. Once you have the basic equipment of living, which in many cases can be either inherited or purchased secondhand,  most spending is unnecessary outside of housing and food, and food for one person can easily be brought down to below $100 per month if you eat exclusively in and pack your lunches and travel food (I admit, it has taken a few years of changing my habits to get to this low level of food spending).</p>
<p>Our basic needs (for &#8220;stuff&#8221;) are very simple and are easy to provide in the society we live in. In fact, my most treasured possessions of late are warm turtlenecks and a couple of sweaters that keep me toasty-comfortable in my house, which is at between 50 and 60 degrees, depending on the part of the day and the part of the house. (The bedroom, only used for sleeping, often gets down to 45 on cold nights, yet I am perfectly comfortable because I  have set the bed up for those temperatures).</p>
<p>All of this brings up the point that, once you stop pleasure- or distraction-shopping , shopping only when actually necessary, and normalize putting a good chunk of your income as savings, which itself leads to less worrying and even less time spent being concerned about financial things,    what do you do with yourself in your freed-up time? At that point you may find yourself facing yourself and your existence and wondering,&#8221; what do I do now, and why?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill in NC</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/12/27/learning-to-living-modestly/comment-page-1/#comment-161472</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill in NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Houses are considerably larger today than in previous generations - does &quot;The Two Income Trap&quot; control for that?

It was not the least bit unusual for a family of 6 to live in a 3 bedroom, 1 bath, 1,000 sq.ft. house 40 years ago.

Who&#039;d be willing to live so small today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Houses are considerably larger today than in previous generations &#8211; does &#8220;The Two Income Trap&#8221; control for that?</p>
<p>It was not the least bit unusual for a family of 6 to live in a 3 bedroom, 1 bath, 1,000 sq.ft. house 40 years ago.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;d be willing to live so small today?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll argue that the reason people today have more &#039;stuff&#039; than generations before, is that the standard of living is higher, rather than materialism. People do what makes them happy, and if spending their money on &#039;stuff&#039; does that, then so be it. Anyone can save if they want to, but the real question is &#039;Will I be happier spending or saving this money?&#039; And that answer isn&#039;t the same for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll argue that the reason people today have more &#8216;stuff&#8217; than generations before, is that the standard of living is higher, rather than materialism. People do what makes them happy, and if spending their money on &#8216;stuff&#8217; does that, then so be it. Anyone can save if they want to, but the real question is &#8216;Will I be happier spending or saving this money?&#8217; And that answer isn&#8217;t the same for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore Van Rooy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theodore Van Rooy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Frugality is all the rage. And a good thing too.&quot;

-agreed.... but it&#039;s not the whole picture... the great depression happened in them midst of the Golden Frugal Age

&quot;If you go into homes that are 60 years old, the cupboards are tiny. That’s because nobody had much stuff&quot;

-That&#039;s because &quot;stuff&quot; was really expensive back then.  Thanks to fossil fuels, globalization and increases in manufacturing technology &quot;stuff&quot; is really cheap now.

Frugality is not a virtue unless it&#039;s a means to a worthwhile end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Frugality is all the rage. And a good thing too.&#8221;</p>
<p>-agreed&#8230;. but it&#8217;s not the whole picture&#8230; the great depression happened in them midst of the Golden Frugal Age</p>
<p>&#8220;If you go into homes that are 60 years old, the cupboards are tiny. That’s because nobody had much stuff&#8221;</p>
<p>-That&#8217;s because &#8220;stuff&#8221; was really expensive back then.  Thanks to fossil fuels, globalization and increases in manufacturing technology &#8220;stuff&#8221; is really cheap now.</p>
<p>Frugality is not a virtue unless it&#8217;s a means to a worthwhile end.</p>
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		<title>By: Battra92</title>
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		<dc:creator>Battra92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason the line &quot;Before you throw your hands up and say, “Ridiculous”, just try it.&quot; seems a bit condescending in nature. 

Perhaps I&#039;m just not your target audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason the line &#8220;Before you throw your hands up and say, “Ridiculous”, just try it.&#8221; seems a bit condescending in nature. </p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m just not your target audience.</p>
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		<title>By: mwarden</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Before the advent of retirement savings plans, government pensions and a social safety net, most people had to save without incentive by living modestly.&quot;

So, reading between the lines here... your assertion is that the increase in wealth we&#039;ve experienced since 1935 is due to Social Security, pensions, and IRAs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Before the advent of retirement savings plans, government pensions and a social safety net, most people had to save without incentive by living modestly.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, reading between the lines here&#8230; your assertion is that the increase in wealth we&#8217;ve experienced since 1935 is due to Social Security, pensions, and IRAs.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gail!

Great Post. I would like to add something more. There’s a direct linkage between savings and long term sustainability of the planet earth. This is another ‘inconvenient truth’. Everybody needs to realize that if we want long term sustainability of the planet earth, frugality or conscious spending is the way to go.Check out the details at http://www.themoneyquest.com/2008/12/savings-step-towards-sustainable-living.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gail!</p>
<p>Great Post. I would like to add something more. There’s a direct linkage between savings and long term sustainability of the planet earth. This is another ‘inconvenient truth’. Everybody needs to realize that if we want long term sustainability of the planet earth, frugality or conscious spending is the way to go.Check out the details at <a href="http://www.themoneyquest.com/2008/12/savings-step-towards-sustainable-living.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.themoneyquest.com/2008/12/savings-step-towards-sustainable-living.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ajana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Gail disciple and am (successfully) using her methods to get out of debt. It&#039;s great to see her wisdom and common sense posted here!

It&#039;s a relief to live frugally and not need to buy beyond the basics; even all these crazy sales on at the moment are not a temptation. IMO, frugality = stress-free living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Gail disciple and am (successfully) using her methods to get out of debt. It&#8217;s great to see her wisdom and common sense posted here!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a relief to live frugally and not need to buy beyond the basics; even all these crazy sales on at the moment are not a temptation. IMO, frugality = stress-free living.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article Gail.  I have been a fan of yours since discovering your show on-line last year.  So much so that I set up a Money Makeover for 2008 on-line on a frugal board as if it were one of your shows...complete with Relationship Rescues.  It was a great success from my viewpoint.  Showed my DH and I all kinds of errors in our thinking.  

There is a lot of truth to paring down what you have.  If nothing else it adds to the peace in our home.  We still have too much stuff, but at least it&#039;s stuff we use!  And we&#039;re doing a lot better than we were before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article Gail.  I have been a fan of yours since discovering your show on-line last year.  So much so that I set up a Money Makeover for 2008 on-line on a frugal board as if it were one of your shows&#8230;complete with Relationship Rescues.  It was a great success from my viewpoint.  Showed my DH and I all kinds of errors in our thinking.  </p>
<p>There is a lot of truth to paring down what you have.  If nothing else it adds to the peace in our home.  We still have too much stuff, but at least it&#8217;s stuff we use!  And we&#8217;re doing a lot better than we were before.</p>
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		<title>By: LK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacco, my husband (who is Dutch) and I went to the Netherlands this year on vacation.  We were sooo impressed with the transit system there, and became such fans of the rail/train system.  While some major cities in the US have city-wide rail systems, most cities are not set up for it, being set up for road travel and trying to retrofit a rail system is costly and most people actually argue against them!  It&#039;s crazy to us that many people don&#039;t see the benefits.  

I know that many people *do* share one car, or live close enough to their city/job/etc that they can utilize their bus/rail/public transit.  But for the majority of Americans, it&#039;s not feasible or easily accomplished.  :-(  We really did love how easy it was over there, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacco, my husband (who is Dutch) and I went to the Netherlands this year on vacation.  We were sooo impressed with the transit system there, and became such fans of the rail/train system.  While some major cities in the US have city-wide rail systems, most cities are not set up for it, being set up for road travel and trying to retrofit a rail system is costly and most people actually argue against them!  It&#8217;s crazy to us that many people don&#8217;t see the benefits.  </p>
<p>I know that many people *do* share one car, or live close enough to their city/job/etc that they can utilize their bus/rail/public transit.  But for the majority of Americans, it&#8217;s not feasible or easily accomplished.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   We really did love how easy it was over there, though!</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post is definitely informative but I have one question.

I have listened to and read Robert Kiyosaki&#039;s books and seen the current economy and just wonder.

Yes saving is great but if the stock market is so unreliable nowadays and people bet their retirements on it? Don&#039;t they wonder that they can go broke?

Although I am assuming here that you are referring to RRSP and savings in terms of their own savings and putting it into mutual funds. Am I accurate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is definitely informative but I have one question.</p>
<p>I have listened to and read Robert Kiyosaki&#8217;s books and seen the current economy and just wonder.</p>
<p>Yes saving is great but if the stock market is so unreliable nowadays and people bet their retirements on it? Don&#8217;t they wonder that they can go broke?</p>
<p>Although I am assuming here that you are referring to RRSP and savings in terms of their own savings and putting it into mutual funds. Am I accurate?</p>
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		<title>By: kick_push</title>
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		<dc:creator>kick_push</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve been hanging out a lot w/ a couple of friends who are in between jobs.. and i&#039;ve become accustomed to their lifestyle.. sometimes you just have to make sacrifices in order to survive.. you&#039;d be surprised how easy it is!  they have helped me put things in perspective.. it doesn&#039;t take much for one to be happy.. all the &quot;stuff&quot; and &quot;things&quot; are just excess and clutter.. i think we tend to forget that sometimes

oh yeah.. happy holidays everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been hanging out a lot w/ a couple of friends who are in between jobs.. and i&#8217;ve become accustomed to their lifestyle.. sometimes you just have to make sacrifices in order to survive.. you&#8217;d be surprised how easy it is!  they have helped me put things in perspective.. it doesn&#8217;t take much for one to be happy.. all the &#8220;stuff&#8221; and &#8220;things&#8221; are just excess and clutter.. i think we tend to forget that sometimes</p>
<p>oh yeah.. happy holidays everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Thank you! A great article which provides the conviction and justification for the frgual lifestlye I prefer. As I posted recently, being frugal is not being cheap, and the numbers add up as shown in this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Thank you! A great article which provides the conviction and justification for the frgual lifestlye I prefer. As I posted recently, being frugal is not being cheap, and the numbers add up as shown in this post!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great topic to see a discussion about!  I have followed an overall philosophy of frugality for quite some time, so much so that it is just like second nature.  There are so many benefits that can be gained from Ms. Vaz-Oxlade&#039;s suggestions, and she hits the nail right on the head with the figures she sets forth about how much you can accumulate in interest-bearing accounts, just by setting aside the money that would be otherwise spent on luxury items.

A point I would like to add is the astounding environmental benefits that can be gained if more and more people jump on the frugal bandwagon.  With every material purchase comes a trail of spent resources, fuel, and the accompanying pollution.  And this is not-to-mention what ends up in the landfill from the purchases.  Less consumption equals less waste!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great topic to see a discussion about!  I have followed an overall philosophy of frugality for quite some time, so much so that it is just like second nature.  There are so many benefits that can be gained from Ms. Vaz-Oxlade&#8217;s suggestions, and she hits the nail right on the head with the figures she sets forth about how much you can accumulate in interest-bearing accounts, just by setting aside the money that would be otherwise spent on luxury items.</p>
<p>A point I would like to add is the astounding environmental benefits that can be gained if more and more people jump on the frugal bandwagon.  With every material purchase comes a trail of spent resources, fuel, and the accompanying pollution.  And this is not-to-mention what ends up in the landfill from the purchases.  Less consumption equals less waste!</p>
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		<title>By: kelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope the current economic meltdown results in the masses questioning the authorities, the stereotypes and the definition of rich. If your nothing without money are you really something more special with it. I think only to those who want it. The rich people I&#039;ve known and admired didn&#039;t have fancy houses, cars, parties. They had well kept modest homes, friendly attitudes and were responsible people. We don&#039;t live to impress and we probably &quot;look&quot; poor. We have two beater cars, but can afford two new(with cash). We have two houses(no mortgage). We have been happy with less and it has given us more. Frugal living works and it only hurts if you have the wrong attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope the current economic meltdown results in the masses questioning the authorities, the stereotypes and the definition of rich. If your nothing without money are you really something more special with it. I think only to those who want it. The rich people I&#8217;ve known and admired didn&#8217;t have fancy houses, cars, parties. They had well kept modest homes, friendly attitudes and were responsible people. We don&#8217;t live to impress and we probably &#8220;look&#8221; poor. We have two beater cars, but can afford two new(with cash). We have two houses(no mortgage). We have been happy with less and it has given us more. Frugal living works and it only hurts if you have the wrong attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  Keeping the proper blend of savings and spending is a key to saving money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  Keeping the proper blend of savings and spending is a key to saving money</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social programs and safety nets are GOOD THINGS, that save everyone money in the long term. The reason Americans began to live more comfortably was that our economy grew and the fortunes of the average person grew along with it (although the gains were not shared equally), not because of &quot;government programs&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social programs and safety nets are GOOD THINGS, that save everyone money in the long term. The reason Americans began to live more comfortably was that our economy grew and the fortunes of the average person grew along with it (although the gains were not shared equally), not because of &#8220;government programs&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article, my wife and i started living more frugally about 6 months ago. Shopped less and when we did just hit the sale racks. Stopped eating out, stopped getting pizza delivered. Stopped buying steak and got more chicken. Holding off on most large purchases for a month and shopping around often to find in a month we didn&#039;t even want it anymore. 
 With the money saved we have payed off my car(18k&#039;s worth) in just 6 months. Frugal living is very addicting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article, my wife and i started living more frugally about 6 months ago. Shopped less and when we did just hit the sale racks. Stopped eating out, stopped getting pizza delivered. Stopped buying steak and got more chicken. Holding off on most large purchases for a month and shopping around often to find in a month we didn&#8217;t even want it anymore.<br />
 With the money saved we have payed off my car(18k&#8217;s worth) in just 6 months. Frugal living is very addicting</p>
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		<title>By: Aman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great points. Many people that hear about living modestly incorrectly connect this to &quot;living cheap&quot; or &quot;living poor&quot;, your points show that neither is true.

Modestly living can not only help you remain a lot in hard economic times, but can have so many further benefits in terms of being lest waste producing, healthy (less stress from being constantly in debt), etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great points. Many people that hear about living modestly incorrectly connect this to &#8220;living cheap&#8221; or &#8220;living poor&#8221;, your points show that neither is true.</p>
<p>Modestly living can not only help you remain a lot in hard economic times, but can have so many further benefits in terms of being lest waste producing, healthy (less stress from being constantly in debt), etc.</p>
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		<title>By: xepe71</title>
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		<dc:creator>xepe71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You re right in the background of the article, but forgot to mention that your savings worth in 25 years will be divided by more than two. This means, if you have saved 90000USD, you&#039;ll be able to purchase for an equivalent value of less than actual 45000USD. this is considering an optimistic depreciation rate of 3% every year (1.03^25=2.09).
Still, it is an excellent article, and of course it makes sense to save (some more) money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You re right in the background of the article, but forgot to mention that your savings worth in 25 years will be divided by more than two. This means, if you have saved 90000USD, you&#8217;ll be able to purchase for an equivalent value of less than actual 45000USD. this is considering an optimistic depreciation rate of 3% every year (1.03^25=2.09).<br />
Still, it is an excellent article, and of course it makes sense to save (some more) money.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buying and owning a bunch of stuff lightens our wallets while not adding significantly to our overall contentment.  It&#039;s a shame that it took a recession to get people to re-evaluate their spending and savings habits.
One thing I started doing a few years ago was putting purchases on a minimum 2 week hold (usually a month or more).  I would do research on my desired purchase and have time to mull it over.  The extraneous stuff that isn&#039;t useful or doesn&#039;t significantly contribute to time savings, happiness, etc. normally doesn&#039;t make it past this delayed purchase period.  It&#039;s not a new or groundbreaking idea, but it&#039;s helped me in my attempts to live modestly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buying and owning a bunch of stuff lightens our wallets while not adding significantly to our overall contentment.  It&#8217;s a shame that it took a recession to get people to re-evaluate their spending and savings habits.<br />
One thing I started doing a few years ago was putting purchases on a minimum 2 week hold (usually a month or more).  I would do research on my desired purchase and have time to mull it over.  The extraneous stuff that isn&#8217;t useful or doesn&#8217;t significantly contribute to time savings, happiness, etc. normally doesn&#8217;t make it past this delayed purchase period.  It&#8217;s not a new or groundbreaking idea, but it&#8217;s helped me in my attempts to live modestly.</p>
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		<title>By: John C</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read elizabeth warren&#039;s book, the Two income trap, she goes a long way towards destroying the idea that frivolous spending is to blame for the rise in materialism (there is a fantastic chapter about how silly it is to pine for the &quot;good old days of responsibility&quot;, as people have been doing that since they came to this country).  Anyone who writes about personal finance and HOW people spend money should read the book.  It turns out, frivolous spending on shoes and TVs has very little to do with our current economic situation.  It is the rise in housing, medical care, and childcare.  I do normally enjoy the tips on the site though, spending less on frivolous things is a great idea, it just does not make the difference most people think it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read elizabeth warren&#8217;s book, the Two income trap, she goes a long way towards destroying the idea that frivolous spending is to blame for the rise in materialism (there is a fantastic chapter about how silly it is to pine for the &#8220;good old days of responsibility&#8221;, as people have been doing that since they came to this country).  Anyone who writes about personal finance and HOW people spend money should read the book.  It turns out, frivolous spending on shoes and TVs has very little to do with our current economic situation.  It is the rise in housing, medical care, and childcare.  I do normally enjoy the tips on the site though, spending less on frivolous things is a great idea, it just does not make the difference most people think it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Rainy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rainy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the thing I like best about your blog is the emphasis on small, sustainable, and consistent changes in our life choices. It is always good to examine where we are at and see if we can&#039;t do things differently or better or if, in fact, we&#039;re happy where we are.  For me, my first response to this was &quot;Well I&#039;ve already cut out a lot.&quot; and then &quot;I could cut more.&quot; and finally &quot;Do I want to?&quot; I honestly don&#039;t know the answer to that, but I suspect it lies somewhere between cutting more and being pretty much happy with where we&#039;re at right now. I&#039;m thinking about it. It is always good to question what we think we &quot;need.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the thing I like best about your blog is the emphasis on small, sustainable, and consistent changes in our life choices. It is always good to examine where we are at and see if we can&#8217;t do things differently or better or if, in fact, we&#8217;re happy where we are.  For me, my first response to this was &#8220;Well I&#8217;ve already cut out a lot.&#8221; and then &#8220;I could cut more.&#8221; and finally &#8220;Do I want to?&#8221; I honestly don&#8217;t know the answer to that, but I suspect it lies somewhere between cutting more and being pretty much happy with where we&#8217;re at right now. I&#8217;m thinking about it. It is always good to question what we think we &#8220;need.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your show and am very excited to see your guest post here today.</description>
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		<title>By: erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfectly timed article!  My husband and I have been intensely discussing this for the past day.  I was laid off from my job and am going back to school to get an advanced degree this fall.  He&#039;s worrying about how we&#039;re going to pay for my tuition because the price tag is so high.  I&#039;m not worrying at all because I know how little we actually need and can live comfortably on about 2/3 of his post-tax salary and pay for my school pretty much out of pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly timed article!  My husband and I have been intensely discussing this for the past day.  I was laid off from my job and am going back to school to get an advanced degree this fall.  He&#8217;s worrying about how we&#8217;re going to pay for my tuition because the price tag is so high.  I&#8217;m not worrying at all because I know how little we actually need and can live comfortably on about 2/3 of his post-tax salary and pay for my school pretty much out of pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Slackerjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slackerjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD thank you soooo much for having Gail as a guest on GRS. I love Gail because of her no nonsense approach to finances and debt. AND she is not afraid to yell at people and even curse them out a bit.  Sometimes financial advice can be learned by showing spreadsheets and graphs and sometimes it requires yelling.

Gail I hope a &#039;follow up&#039; show is in the works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD thank you soooo much for having Gail as a guest on GRS. I love Gail because of her no nonsense approach to finances and debt. AND she is not afraid to yell at people and even curse them out a bit.  Sometimes financial advice can be learned by showing spreadsheets and graphs and sometimes it requires yelling.</p>
<p>Gail I hope a &#8216;follow up&#8217; show is in the works.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Fellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Fellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard on the radio the other day that the average American savings rate is starting to creep up a bit.  Thank God!  Too bad it takes a recession to get people to stop stretching themselves and start putting away some cash for the future.  I hate to say it but I feel like the worse things get economically the more you will see the national savings rate increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard on the radio the other day that the average American savings rate is starting to creep up a bit.  Thank God!  Too bad it takes a recession to get people to stop stretching themselves and start putting away some cash for the future.  I hate to say it but I feel like the worse things get economically the more you will see the national savings rate increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire at Choyster Cash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire at Choyster Cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such an important article to be posting at this time of year, and I&#039;m so pleased that Get Rich Slowly has been getting on the bandwagon of writing about paring down lifestyles this holiday season.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such an important article to be posting at this time of year, and I&#8217;m so pleased that Get Rich Slowly has been getting on the bandwagon of writing about paring down lifestyles this holiday season.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can call me naive because I&#039;m not an American, but I would like people to try and find alternative ways of transport instead of using a car.

In general people do have legs, they can ride a bike (yes, I am Dutch), or they can use public transport (buses, trains, subsways etc.) to get somewhere.

I know that the US is an entirely different country when it comes to the distances people have to travel to get to the mall or to get to work and maybe the entire system of public transport does not meet the needs when everybody is going to travel this way, but it would be a nice idea to consider other ways of traveling.
If using a car is the only possible sollution, what about sharing your car?

Greetings from the Netherlands,

Jacco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can call me naive because I&#8217;m not an American, but I would like people to try and find alternative ways of transport instead of using a car.</p>
<p>In general people do have legs, they can ride a bike (yes, I am Dutch), or they can use public transport (buses, trains, subsways etc.) to get somewhere.</p>
<p>I know that the US is an entirely different country when it comes to the distances people have to travel to get to the mall or to get to work and maybe the entire system of public transport does not meet the needs when everybody is going to travel this way, but it would be a nice idea to consider other ways of traveling.<br />
If using a car is the only possible sollution, what about sharing your car?</p>
<p>Greetings from the Netherlands,</p>
<p>Jacco.</p>
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