My 2008 Discretionary Spending: Progress and Challenges
Published on - January 12th, 2009 (by J.D. Roth) For nearly three years, I’ve chronicled my adventures as I learn about money management. I’ve dug myself out of debt, quit my job to write full time, and begun to build wealth. But how well do I practice what I preach? For the most part, I follow my own advice.
I believe there are two components to building wealth:
- Reducing costs
- Boosting income
Doing one or the other can help you meet your goals, but to really succeed, you must do both. My goal has been to create a significant positive monthly cash flow. I’ve managed to do this. But as my income increases, so does the temptation to spend more. Have I been able to fight the urge? It’s time for the annual review of my largest sources of discretionary spending:
- Comic Books (2005: $2810.52, 2006: $3202.91, 2007: $897.08, 2008: $550.51)
- Although I use comics as a prop for laughs at Get Rich Slowly, I’ve genuinely struggled with my spending on them in the past. Not this year. I made vast improvements in 2008, actually spending less on comics than I had planned. There are two reasons for this. First, I’ve narrowed my focus, collecting only those titles I most desire. I’m also making an effort to read all of the books I’ve bought but never finished. These two changes have helped me to spend less on this hobby.
- Books (2005: $1049.91, 2006: $657.96, 2007: $702.73, 2008: $404.49)
- At one time, I spent over $200 a month on books. Now I spend less than $40. I’m content with this number, especially since many of these are for our monthly book group. One reason my inclination to buy books has decreased is that I’m able to purchase personal-finance books through Get Rich Slowly, the business. (Plus authors and publishers send them to me for free.) This gives me a never-ending source of reading material, and makes me less inclined to spend time in a bookstore. And again, I’m trying to read books I own but have never finished.
- Entertainment (2005: $478.81, 2006: $543.55, 2007: $1094.83, 2008: $897.91)
- This number isn’t as bad as it seems. It includes two Decemberists concerts for me and Kris, and it also includes some of our television viewing. (Remember that Kris and I cut back to basic cable, and now we watch TV through Netflix and through the iTunes Music Store.) There’s also a one-time $236 event here that ought to have been a business expense. I’m not unhappy with my spending on Entertainment.
- Pets (2005: $397.76, 2006: $471.03, 2007: $625.52, 2008: $378.75)
- Many personal finance writers view pets as an unnecessary expense. To me, $35 a month to keep four cats is a bargain. It only costs me about a quarter a day for each animal, and they bring much more joy to my life than that. If Kris would let me, I’d be the “crazy cat lady” on the block. (Are there “crazy cat gentlemen”?) Note that our actual pet expenses are greater. Kris pays for their food, and that’s not reflected in these numbers.
- Food (2005: $5290.06, 2006: $5060.04, 2007: $4108.55, 2008: $5522.00)
- which includes Dining out (2005: $1648.63, 2006: $2018.81, 2007: $2051.93, 2008: $2628.08)
I knew going into 2008 that this category needed some work. I didn’t do a good job. In fact, I managed to reduce spending in nearly every other category except for food. Looking closely at the numbers, however, I’m not that worried. Over two-thirds of this spending occurred during the first half of the year, just after I quit working at the box factory. For those first few months, I was still getting adjusted to working from home alone all day, and often pestered Kris to go out to nice restaurants in the evening. During the last quarter of the year, I only spend $445.72 dining out, which is about our 2005 level. - Vice (2005: $1055.33, 2006: $768.95, 2007: $431.89, 2008: $924.79)
- This includes wine, liquor, pipe tobacco, poker nights, etc. I don’t smoke regularly, but I do smoke a pipe maybe a dozen times a year. Most of this expense is for alcohol at dinner parties and social gatherings. My alcohol consumption did increase during 2008, which is a concern, but that’s not the reason for the increased spending. For the first time ever, we bought a couple of cases of wine. This will actually reduce the “wages of sin” in the long run, but it bumped the number for 2008.
Although this report is interesting, there are problems with my methodology. For example, I’ve included my grocery spending above (although it’s not really discretionary), but have not included spending on exercise equipment (which is discretionary). Also, Kris pays for much of our grocery shopping. Because we keep separate accounts, her share of that expense isn’t reflected in these numbers.
In order to be consistent from year-to-year, however, I’ve elected to continue reporting the same expenses in the same ways. You’ll have to take my word that the figures here are representative of my spending as a whole. This annual report is sort of like tracking a stock market index, I guess. It doesn’t reveal nuances, but it’s still a useful indicator of the Big Picture.
For those keeping score, here’s my discretionary spending on these categories for the past few years:
- $11,082.39 in 2005
- $10,704.44 in 2006
- $7860.60 in 2007
- $8678.45 in 2008
So despite cutting back on the areas that are really important to me — books and comics — my spending increased last year. And most of that increase came from dining out.
What’s interesting to me is that we actually dined out less often in 2008 than in any of the past few years. But with rising food prices and a taste for fancy restaurants, my spending soared. Take a look:
- In 2005, we spent $1423.39 to dine out 100 times, for an average cost of $14.23.
- In 2006, we spent $1869.58 to dine out 108 times, for an average cost of $17.31.
- In 2007, we spent $2051.93 to dine out 84 times, for an average cost of $24.43.
- In 2008, we spent $2628.08 to dine out 77 times, for an average cost of $34.14.
We dined out 23% less often than in 2005, but our average meal cost was more than twice as much! I’ve been complaining to Kris that we don’t eat out often enough. Maybe we can do so a little more often if we curb our expensive tastes. It’s time for more Mike’s and less Gino’s.
In reality, my total expenses in 2008 — which includes everything, and not just those listed here — were the lowest they’ve been since I started tracking them. This is because I have no more debt payments, because of my continued campaign of frugality, and because I’m now working from home.
But here’s a confession: I expect my discretionary spending to rise in 2009. I don’t think it will rise a lot, but it will increase.
Recently I’ve embraced two tools, the balanced money formula and the adult allowance, both of which have help me to see that money isn’t just something to be hoarded. Now that I’ve paid off my debt and accumulated some savings, it’s okay to use money to do things that make me happy. The trick is to never again allow my spending to get out of control. (It’s going to be important for me to continue to fight impulse purchases, for example.)
Remember: there’s nothing inherently wrong with buying things that bring you joy. Problems arise when you finance these purchases with debt. If you’re meeting your other financial goals and have money left over, it’s good to indulge your interests and passions.
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Nice breakdown and analysis – the only way you can actually get the big picture.
I am a neuroscientist so I’m interested in the biological aspects of human behavior with money and on the markets – It seems that a lot of money related human behavior is kind of like gambling.
I wrote an introduction to the biological aspects of how the brain reacts to situations like the market in my article The Stone Age Brain vs The Stock Market.
Anyway, the best way to change your behavior is the way you’ve demonstrated in this article, by writing it down tracking it.
-Patrick
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you are a runner and you smoke pipe tobacco? as a physician, that pains me…
re: the giving question… you worry about whether you’ll need the money someday before making a donation to charity, but not before spending $500 on comic books? may need another think.
remember, you don’t have to be a huge donor to make a difference. a little bit goes a long way in charity, just like in personal finance.
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@chacha1
RE: The Comment Cloud — love that term.
Also, I like the way you’re thinking of your “retirement fund”. I think that’s clever.
@quinsy
I don’t inhale.
Actually, I don’t inhale. I know that it’s little better to be sucking that stuff into my mouth, but still. I enjoy it, I do it in moderation, and…well, I’m just rationalizing, aren’t I?
Also, I’m well-aware of the comic books vs. charity “problem”. I was thinking about it just this morning.
What I actually think — and some others have pointed me this direction — is that eventually here, I’ll begin to donate my time to charity. I would love to make an actual difference with the work I do. If I were to sell GRS for a sum that could keep me comfortable, I would seek work in non-profit financial education. (Volunteer work, if I could.)
Again, maybe I’m rationalizing.
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“Whenever I think about doing a donation, I get scared. “What if I need that money in the future?” I ask myself. So, I don’t contribute as much as many other people do.”
Well, when I look at my 2009 budget, I’m only allocating 1% of my total salary — after a nice 20% that I’ve deducted to go into savings — in donation to help kids. That makes me feel great because it makes me cut my budget in certain areas to help me meet my goal. You see, I view personal finances as a company’s; therefore, you boost the bottom line but also enhnace the social responsibility and you contribute to the world’s betterment. this in return makes you want to work harder and smarter to make more money.
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Were you counting debt payments as “expense” category? I have always counted debt payments (principal) as savings – and only the interest as expense.
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I really appreciate the detail you shared about your spending categories. Every book I’ve read about financial independence advocates being conscious of your in-flow and out-flow.
I’ve reduced my spending substantially over the last years, and I’m within striking distance of paying off all debt this year. My partner wants to move into a bigger place. Its much nicer than the two bed two bath we share, but the rent is 2.5 times higher. I do see the benefits to a place where we can entertain more, have more room to pursue our hobbies, get a better night sleep, etc. I’m trying not to live in fear, but I’m having trouble wrapping my arms around the increase in cost for rent. I’ve done the math, we can afford it, but we are going to be putting a big chunk of discretionary spending out the door every month for the nicer place.
One friend said it’s good to have to stretch a little, that it can inspire you to increase the number of income streams.
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Do you have an account dedicated to large pet expenses such as vet visits, etc., or do you simply use your emergency fund to cover such expenses?
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J.D.,
Long-term it’s good to be thoughtful about your philanthropy and to have a giving plan. But in the meantime, don’t over-analyze your way out of giving. Just do it, as often as possible. There’s no need to find the perfect organization or to research every possible option. For whatever issue you care about, there are some large nonprofits that are certainly trustworthy (Humane Society, ACLU, Planned Parenthood, etc.) and that will put your money to good use. There are also very local organizations that are easy to check out and trust (a local animal shelter, mentor program, domestic violence shelter) and know your money is going right to good work. There’s also always a crisis somewhere in the world (Katrina, Darfur, etc.) where you can be certain that your funds will go to immediate use. So, don’t resist letting the perfect be the enemy of good and just start giving. I promise that it will feel good, and I promise that you’ll be just fine financially. As you accumulate more wealth and become increasingly frugal, it’s probably an even better and more urgent reason to make sure you maintain generosity and don’t hang onto that money too tightly!
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Yes, there are ‘crazy cat gentlemen.’ Our neighbor had at least 14 inside cats…..
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J.D. I would love to see more real numbers in your finances. So many are willing to give debt and expense numbers but not income (making the other 2 a bit irrelavent). I know there is a taboo against sharing income but I would think a financial blog would break that taboo (it would also help us if more of us did in “real” life but that is another matter).
Also thought I know you and Kris keep separate finances is she tracking and sharing similar info with you? No matter how separate you really are working as 1. If either of you lost your jobs or became injured the other would surely support. Also are you on the same page for retirement? If one of you has significantly more saved it could become an issue.
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@Adrienne (#57)
I would love to share more of my real numbers. Believe me, I would love to put them out there to be dissected and analyzed and chewed over. However, the three people I trust most (my wife, my accountant, and my lawyer) have all advised me not to do so for a variety of reasons. For now, I’m following their advice.
That’s not to say that I’ll never share them. If I were to ever sell the blog, or to hang up the cleats, or whatever, I might do a “going away” post that revealed some of the things I’m unable to share in everyday life.
I guess what I’m saying is that my life is pretty transparent between my various blogs, but it’s not 100% transparent. That’s probably a good thing.
Kris doesn’t track her money as closely as I do. She’s always been responsible with her money, though. She has more saved than I do, though I’m trying to catch up. I think we recently calculated that she’s saving something like 28% of her pay!!!!
@Frugal Bachelor
No, I wasn’t counting debt as expenses. I can see how that’s confusing. There’s no direct connection. It was a psychological connection. When I was paying interest on $35,000, I was also spending a lot on myself to ease the mental pain.
@Everyone
Thanks for your suggestions re: charity. This is something that I will continue to work out for myself, and I appreciate the input. It’s great.
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looks like people don’t want to wait to talk about the donation line in the budget… I’m still not as generous and giving as I’d like to be, but I’ve found two ways to ease myself into giving:
1) Part of our entertainment/gift giving budget does double duty as charity funds because we go to benefit activities — silent auctions and charity fairs where I can buy a gift for myself or for holiday giving while also supporting a charity, or benefit dinners or other events, where a portion of the check/ticket is a donation to a cause.
2) The other approach that has worked for me is to primarily give locally, helping to support the local free medical clinic, the local domestic violence shelter feels and the local library feel a lot like choosing to shop locally, this is where my money belongs, and it’s an investment in a good future for this community.
By the way, if there’s a domestic violence shelter or homeless shelter near you, you might ask them if they would accept donations of extra financial books you have, that would be a great way to extend the good work of the GRS blog into the world!
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@Civil Savant: you say your partner wants you to move to a bigger place, which costs 2.5 times what your current place. However, it looks as if it will actually cost more than that in the long run, because of the reasons listed for acquiring this bigger, more expensive place: entertaining more; and pursuing hobbies. There’s nothing inherently wrong with any of these things: having a bigger place (wish mine was!) entertaining, and pursuing hobbies. But from what you’ve outlined, it appears as if you’re going to go from nearly debt-free to a significant increase in both your cost-of-living and your optional expenses. Is this what you really want? And will you actually be ABLE to entertain more and/or pursue those hobbies, if you’re paying 2.5 times what it costs to live someplace? I wound up having to buy a place at pretty much the LEAST opportune moment, and the increase in cost-of-living has sucked up my entertainment AND my hobby budget. That’s partly due to my efforts to clear my debt; I’m putting about 28% of my take-home into paying it off this year. But it’s not as if I’m going to go out carousing once my debt’s paid off; that money needs to be going into savings. It gets a little frustrating, but it’s a whole lot more important to me to have that roof over my head than it is to have an entertainment budget. Is this increase going to hit you the same way? And is it going to be affordable if something happens to either your income or your partner’s?
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hey JD:
I think that’s a great idea, actually I have gotten in touch with a local group that does personal finance education and am planning to teach for them next month. we should all do this! how rewarding does that sound? talk about teaching a man to fish.
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JD, I ‘m wondering what kind of group you have found that does financial education??? I have been searching for quite some time, but continue to receive resistance. Aside for teaching a class at church, I have been unable to fnd folks that are ready, or willing, to listen.
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Reading this post made me go total up my expenses by category for 2008. I don’t normally keep close track of exactly what I spend my money on, I just make sure that the important things are paid for, and then I try to make sure that the balances of my accounts stay “high enough” (I have specific limits for this), and the rest I can pretty much spend on whatever.
You guys don’t even want to see what my totals look like, they’re almost embarrassing. But still, my main checking account balance was $673 lower at the beginning of 2009 than it was at the beginning of 2008, but that’s after having transferred $3427 more out of my checking to other accounts than I transferred into it, so I’m still ahead overall for the year, and that doesn’t even count debt repayments or retirement contributions.
I look at my expenses and think that, yes, I could be spending less in a lot of areas, a *lot* less in some, but still, I’m spending less than make and saving for retirement, and that’s a winning strategy in the long run.
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Don’t forget that giving donations of gently used items to Goodwill or a similar organization is a great way to give to charity without feeling like you’re about to become destitute yourself. I also like to buy toiletries and food on sale & using coupons and give to food banks/shelters. This can be a more “frugal” way of giving b/c you’re not spending as much, but a charity is reaping the benefit. I wait til I have a big box of stuff, which doesn’t take long, then take it over.
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As for pet expenses, you might be able to work with those a little.
Make sure your vet is following the new vaccine protocols. for years vets gave every vaccine every year and now they are realizing they do not need to. http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&PID=2615
also, feeding a high quality species appropriate diet might help a lot of cats avoid some very common illnesses. to read up on why diet is so very important, check out the website by Dr. Peirson, who studies feline nutrition at http://www.catinfo.org
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Fly free as long as you’ve got that emergency fund…!
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Wow, you’re eating out al lot!!!
Or maybe it’s because I’m Dutch, we hardly ever eat out.
Maybe it’s an idea to start or join a cooking group and prepare meals together!
B.t.w. I loooooooooooooove your blog.
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That was a very interesting post. I think you’ve done very well for your eating out and food budget (which is where I focus most of my energy). We recently totalled ours up to about $6900 for 2008, two adults and a toddler. Our eating out budget dropped several hundred dollars last year, because eating out with a 2 year old is a pain.
I guess on how much you spend per meal out, you have to decide what you prefer. If just being “out” and not having to cook and do dishes, then a cheaper place is fine. I find that the more I cook, the worse restaurant meals taste. Another reason we eat out less.
I love me a good burrito ($6), but I can make one of them at home. I try to balance the “nicer” dinners (of something I just wouldn’t make myself) with cheaper (but still tasty) dinners. And like I said, I love a nice candlelight dinner of crabcakes and salad, but they don’t take too well to a child running around. And we don’t have a babysitter.
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However you cut it, it all comes down to decreasing spending, and increasing income. Of course that’s overly simplified, but at it’s core, that’s what anyone who’s serious about being wealthy is about.
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My cat is not an ‘optional’ expense. She’s family. Her food is included in our grocery bills. Maybe I might have more money in my account, but I can’t imagine how boring my house would be without her. No little meows when I come home from work. No dances around the supper bowl. No amusement from her playing with string. She gives me joy that doesn’t have a monetary value.
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If this is only one side of your household’s discretionary spending (since you keep separate accounts from your wife) then that might suggest you and your wife may spend $16k+/year on discrecenary expenses. That actually seems pretty high to me.
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You should not buy any books because you can get them for free online, just like movies. Do not go on concerts, give the pet away to someone else, do not buy beer or cigarettes as they are bad for your health and wealth. You will save hundreds of dollars if you dont listen to me.
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