It’s been a while since I highlighted an individual reader comment, but I wanted to draw attention to some advice that Kenny left for Sara in Friday’s “ask the readers”. You’ll recall that 24-year-old Sara feels overwhelmed because although she’s making the “right” decisions, she doesn’t seem to be getting anywhere. Here is Kenny’s response, reproduced verbatim. (Well, I’ve done some formatting, but the text is completely Kenny’s.)
I have the BEST answer for you since I have been there, done that, and now at a different (but better place).
I have done everything you are saying in your bulleted list above.
I have done a bit less (you can say), but lived in a very ‘controlled’ (read it as non-impulsive) environment by using self-control and discipline since I wanted to make it big.
I DID. I HAVE. I WILL NEVER GIVE THAT UP EVEN WITH ALL OF THE MARKET TURMOIL.
Here is why:
- Have saved money every penny at a time, but yet enjoyed what I wanted and lived a good 20 years years from the days of my college.
- I maximized on using company events to save money.
- I traveled with company folks instead of using my car.
- I jumped jobs and got ‘overtime pay’ and volunteered for any jobs that would give me overtime.
- By doing overtime, I did not have time to spend.
- I saved in the highest yielding Money Market accounts.
- I got credit cards, used their money for 30-45 days, NEVER paid $1 in interest EVER, and paid off at end of month (still do the same).
- I used ALL promotions, free gifts, free money offers as I could, going out of my way to do it.
- I have opened and closed 25 credit cards in 10 years, and 8 bank accounts in 11 years. Each of them offered free Digital Camera, Free iPod Shuffle, Free GPS, Free $25 or $50 or $100 or $125 etc. You get the picture.
- Got 2 for 1 coupons. Sold stuff on eBay (total sales approx $500-$600).
- Joined ‘recycling groups’ all over the US.
- Bought stuff online, after intensely doing comparison shopping (late nights).
- Always negotiated my way for every purchase that was more than $50.
- Did Dollar-Cost Averaging into 401(k) and non-tax-deferred accounts, and sold with some profits every 2-3 years.
- Took a financial hit in 2000-2002. Taking another financial hit in 2008-2010. But, will be patient and wait it out.
- Sold house by myself in 2003 (FSBOwner) and saved $14500 and got $5000 more on the house than what the real-estate agent promised to list for.
- Using a car that I bought in 1992, and still using it. Using a van that I bought in 1996 and still using it. Bought a Lexus from Dealer auction (contacts) for cash in 2005. And, work from home 1-2 days a week to save on mileage, clothes, etc
- Teaching kids to drink water from 1992 until now at restaurants. It used to be sacrifice, and now its ‘cool’ to do so!!!!!!
- Will bring home food from restaurant to not do impulse buying (2 out of 5 times). It is good to be served every so often. BUT, will rarely go to restaurants where I do not have an online coupon or a deal.
- Will always have parties at home with people bringing appetizers and dessert, with us cooking the main meal at home. No buying wonderfully decorated plates from grocery stores.
- Buy everything in bulk as much as possible…..Walgreens had Dr Pepper, Fanta, 7-Up bottles for $0.50 with a buy 1 get one free. Loaded it up for 2 years by buying 30 bottles (2 liter). Who gives 2 liter for 25c each.
- Just today I found General Mills Chex-Chocolate Cereal for $0.99 with a 50c coupon. It is 14.5oz box, and therefore loaded up by buying 6 boxes.
It takes a LIFETIME of doing the right thing, but this is NOT WORK and should not be EXHAUSTING, since this is called ‘SAVINGS’ and you will eventually get a KICK out of it.
Bottom-line is ‘Not what I did’…..’Not I much I saved’……But, WHAT DID I KEEP IN MY BANK!!!!!!!!!!
I can say that even though my ways are aggressive, parallel Japanese/Chinese/Indian ways of saving-first, they all lead to one conclusion: Am I a Millionaire with my own efforts.
YES…..Multi-Millionaire coming from an environment where at age 21, I had $3000 in my bank account given to me by my Dad as a ‘starting point’, and living in an apartment.
I am NOT a show-off (can’t be with a 17 year car that I drive), and I am NOT showing off here. I am just sharing the fact, that:
Where there is a Will There is a Way.
If you Work Hard and Sacrifice, You Achieve
Don’t lets the Joneses stop you EVER
Do what is Right For YOU & YOUR Family
Good luck……No offense to anyone, since I am just doing what I think is right for me based on my experiences, background and culture. This is just an open share, SINCE, you asked!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Get Rich Slowly readers rock. I love to hear your stories, and I love the way that each of you is willing to share what you’ve learned with others. I truly believe that the value of this site comes from the supportive community that has developed here. Keep on sharing!
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I agree totally with vlj (#47) that this advice does not seem to strike a good balance in terms of the human relationship side of finances. Besides some of the other stuff that people have mentioned, there are two points on this list that I just can’t get past. The first is in making coworkers do all the driving. The second is in making friends bring food to the parties you are throwing. Now, perhaps there is a good explanation for both (i.e. catching a ride with the company-sponsored shuttle or that your friends always split up their entertaining in this manner). But in reading this as a stand alone, with no other explanation, it comes across to me as very inconsiderate to others, in that it sounds like you are taking from others without ever reciprocating.
IMHO, it is fine to look for opportunities to pool resources to save money, both with work and with leisure, but in a manner where everyone in the pool benefits, not just you.
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I don’t think he sounds pathetic. He sounds normal to me.
When people think I’m strangely frugal for carrying lunch, drinking water, etc., I point out a few things like:
1. my son has a college fund
2. when my dh wrecked my car 3 weeks ago, we were able to go out and pay cash. For a car that hopefully we can send with my 3-year old to college 15 years from now (it’s a Civic)
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I’d like to hear from Kenny on this.
There’s a lot of comments about saving to live, vs living to save, and a lot of assumptions about what Millionare Kenny is going to do with his enormous pile of cash.
Kenny – exactly what are you going to do with your pile of money? Are you going to quit your job, travel the world, start ordering drinks in restaurants … or …
Are you going to keep working lots of overtime, pile your money into a huge vault and swim around in it like Scrooge McDuck?
I’m curious because I feel quality of life is important. For me that includes time spent NOT working – I work as little OT as possible. I enjoy small pleasures in life – good quality espresso every day, a bottle of wine, the occasional nice meal out. I understand that this means I may not have a $2 million pile of money in a few years, but to me it’s all about balance.
Having a huge pile of money just for the sake of seeing a large number in my bank account doesn’t make sense to me.
So Kenny – illuminate us please. You did a lot of work to get here, are you done now? And where does this leave you?
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Buys liters of soda to last him for years? Interesting.
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I agree somewhat with Frugal Bachelor…maybe it would help if we knew what Kenny’s motivation for getting to millionaire status was. Does he just want to say he has 6 zeros in his net worth? Does he want to retire early?
I could probably live off $750k for the rest of my life if I had to (assuming a 5% yield). Even with a mortgage. The only worry I would have there is health insurance/medical bills.
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I’m torn on this post just like others. It’s great to hear about the things the reader has done, but it came out sound a bit preachy. I also don’t know how much fun he has had. I personally don’t want to work a lot of overtime even though it means more money. I want to be home with my husband or home reading,etc. Maybe the reader really enjoys their job, if so, more power to ‘em!
I do get the coupons though! My husband always made fun of me for using coupons, so I kept track of savings last year and saved over $1400 (so far this year I’m over $300). That’s not counting what I saved in rebates or by catching things on sale. For me, this is fun. How much can I save? What items that I use can I get for free or less than $1?
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Kenny,
Congrats on having a plan and sticking to it to success.
To all others,
Kenny’s success should not be taken as an indication of failure by others. All of the posts at GRS are ideas to help people manage their money better to have a positive balance instead of a negative one. I’ll probably never be a multi-millionaire. However, I don’t begrudge Kenny or anyone else for their reaching that goal. I’m retired with a decent pension and my wife will eventually retire with a nice government pension. We save some, have a nice house and don’t live extravagantly. If you have a $400,000 savings earning 5% that would be $20,000 payout per year. Well, if my retirement is twice that then it is as good as being a millionaire. My point is there are several paths to the same destination. Figure out your destination and then decide how you are going to get there. GRS stresses not living beyond your means which is the best advice. you can get.
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I consider myself relatively frugal, but Kenny certainly beats me. Parts of it aren’t real attractive to me either, but it is still good inspiration.
For Sara, all I can say is keep plugging away at it. Eventually you’ll get there. At a minimum, if you can be out of debt and have a good emergency fund, that will go a long way in bringing you peace and satisfaction. Economic conditions like our current state, won’t be such a concern. Good luck!
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Very inspiring– it can be done!
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Kenny reminds me of one of my former bosses. I thought for the longest time that she and her husband were “cheap”…(I was raised as a spendthrift, by a spendthrift.) What? You’re just having water with your meal? You’re shopping at Wal-Mart for your professional clothes? (And you wouldn’t really have guessed it.)
Then I was invited to visit them at their 3/3 beach condo where, in their retirement, they are enjoying their lives immensely.
They were so like Kenny..she got an administrative degree and became a principal, which increased her paycheck.
He had a second business on the side and would work summer school for one semester each summer for extra pay. (He was an instructor at a university.)
I had some expensive shoes, art I really didn’t need on my walls (financed with sig loans from the credit union), and ate out too much, just to name the tip of the iceberg.
I’m still at home…they’re at the beach most of the time.
In their 20′s and 30′s they had a plan. We didn’t.
And they had plenty of fun, too….while we worred about why we didn’t have any money.
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