Because my wife I do not have children, I feel that it’s important to bring in outside voices to talk about money and kids. This is a guest post from Cathy, who writes about family finances, parenting, and cooking at Chief Family Officer.
I would never in a million years want to give up my children just because they cost too much. But recently, the cost of having children hit home as I was reading J.D.’s post about the “third stage” of personal finance, which comes after one has mastered the fundamentals of living frugally, saving, and pursuing financial goals.
I have to admit: I grew a little envious reading that J.D. was beginning this third stage. I still consider myself to be firmly entrenched in the second stage — and I’ve been in this stage for years already, and will continue to remain in it for the foreseeable future.
And I realized that it’s because I have kids. J.D. doesn’t. Now that he’s paid off his non-mortgage debt and begun saving, he can think about grander things.
If my husband and I didn’t have children — if we didn’t have to provide for them now or worry about providing for them in the future — our non-mortgage debt would be completely paid off, we’d be paying a lot extra on the mortgage, and maxing out our retirement contributions, all while still having a comfortable amount left over as spending money.
Because we have kids:
- We’ve chosen to have a larger cash cushion.
- We’ve delayed paying off our debts.
- We’ve reduced our retirement contributions.
- We have greater expenses in the form of childcare, clothing, medical needs, and life insurance premiums.
I see us balancing saving for retirement and saving for college (and/or paying for private school) for the next 20 years. If we didn’t have kids and didn’t have to perform this balancing act, I think we’d be making reservations for an Alaskan cruise right about now!
I do not regret having children. You could never put a price on the intangible privilege of bringing new life into this world, the joy they bring into my life, or the way they make me a better person. I wouldn’t change a single thing about my life.
My point is simply that this is the kind of financial ramification I didn’t think about before my children were born. Sure, I knew kids were expensive. But if I’d realized how much harder reaching the third stage of personal finance would be after having kids, I think I would have been even more diligent about paying off our loans and building up savings first.
In fairness to myself, I don’t think that I could have fully realized or appreciated the financial impact of having one child — let alone two. At the moment, each child costs us about $800 per month. That’s the total amount for childcare, health insurance, and the additional life insurance policies that we took out when they were born. That’s $1600 that we spend each month before adding in the cost of food, clothing, toys, entertainment, etc.
When you add the additional “savings” cost for future education, it’s easy to see why I don’t feel we’re even remotely close to the third stage of personal finance — notwithstanding how well we’re doing and have done with the fundamentals. But I’m confident we’ll get there — eventually.
For a related discussion, check out the Get Rich Slowly forums: Staying debt free with a baby: Is it possible? Previously at GRS, Cathy explained how to save hundreds by playing the drugstore game. Don’t forget to check out her blog, Chief Family Officer.
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Rdzins, I don’t believe Snowballer’s post was a slam at you, personally. I live in a densely urban area, and I can assure you that there are plenty of families who do, in fact, behave in the manner that Snowballer describes: their attitude towards children is the more, the merrier, because the children are money in their pockets, because the taxpayers are supporting them, not the parents. Again, at least in this urban area, it isn’t generally possible to raise enough food on the fire escape – if you have one – to feed your family, nor are the children able to run around on the fire escape to play. Not everyone has that 3-acre option, Valerie. It is absolutely possible to spend $1,600 a month OR MORE on daycare for children; economically, it often seems as if it would make more sense for one parent to stay home, rather than have the majority of one person’s income go for daycare – but what happens when the stay-at-home parent suddenly needs to be a WORKING person? That big blank space in someone’s work history can affect how much he or she makes, and whether or not he or she gets hired at all. More importantly, down the road, it ABSOLUTELY affects how much Social Security someone gets; it might make more sense, financially, for that very reason for both parents to continue to work even though the majority of one parent’s salary pays for daycare and commuting costs.
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I have to say that having a life insurance policy on the kids is very cheap and helps make sure they can get insurance later in life if they have a medical issue that would prevent that. Someone else pointed this out in the comments.
One of my responsibilities as a parent is to provide for my children and I see this simply as one leg of that. My mom did it for me….I am doing it for them and its cheap.
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WELL, TO MAKE THIS SHORT I LOSS A SON, AND GOD BLESSED ME WITH 4 MORE,AND I MIGHT NOT BE RICH,BUT BELIEVE THAT I AM VERY WEALTHY ,AND I WOULD NOT TRADE THEM EVEN IF IT MEANT THAT I WOULD GO THROUGH THE HARDSHIPS THAT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED IN THE PASS, GOD HAS A PLAN FOR EVERYONE REMEMBER THAT STAY BLESSED!
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The mentally challenged people fail to see that a kid costs well over half a million dollars. Lets say that a kid costs $500 a month, which is extremely cheap. Now if you had invested $500 a month in good stocks at 12 percent, instead of wasting it on the kid then you would have over $500,000 after 21 years, but don’t just take my word for it. Check it out for yourself with a savings calculator.
http://www.finance.cch.com/sohoApplets/CompoundSavings.html
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I am a very successful female with no desire to have children. And I love my life. I love having the independence and freedom. I love being able to take a vacation, buy nice clothes and save alot of money each year. I have no debt. I paid of my school loans. I pay off every bill when it’s due. I don’t regret one single bit not having children. I know other women who regret having children and wish they could have my life. I feel very blessed to have my life. This is life I always wanted to live. Financial security is wonderful.
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Well, when you add it all up (medical expenses, school, bullying and problems) kids may not cost you alot in the financial terms (unless they are handicapped) but they cost you more in the long run in other ways. Maybe it is best not to have children, because this way, you can still pursue your dreams, and you won’t have them getting in the way. Food for thought
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Thank you for this post and responses. It was a rough day with all of my kids + all of the neighbor kids at my house today. My husband and I are watching every penny in this economy. Really they are worth every penny and it is paid back in love every day and is a great investment when I’m old and really need their help. I realize how thankful I am for my kids, no matter how ‘expensive’ they are.
I should have enjoyed the day more just being with them instead of being annoyed at how I ended up ‘babysitting’ the neighborhood.
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1) Have only one kid—it’s awesome, you get to experience parenthood but you don’t have to spend all your time pulling them off each other or listening to them bicker (that alone is worth its weight on gold, people). Your kid will not be spoiled or deprived or sad. Your kid will feel truly loved.
2) one parents stays home and does whatever they can to keep costs down/save money
3)homeschool the child—you REALLY get to know your kid and your kid will be a lot happier if you let him/her pursue their own interests.
4) if you think you don’t want kids, or if you’re on the fence: DON’T HAVE A KID. It’s very hard. You will be miserable if you’re not into it.
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